:girl,, marriage 25-7-1982,chembur, mumbai

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Raichur,Sri Inder vohra,and friends,

 

Many thanks for spending time to assess my friend's daughter's

horoscope on the subject of marriage.-

The summary of the observations was communicated

in " appropriate " way,respecting the parent's expectations.It becomes

impossible to convey negative aspects. Using Basic astrological

principles of Vedic astro, I had indicated many months ago to the

parents, my assessment, that foreign connections for higher studies

were indicated .Venus/Rahu indicates a possibility of marriage out of

caste,non brahmin etc.was indicated as girl making her' own choice'.

Sat/Moon effect showing up as 'delays' and hence marriage should not

be rushed thru.

 

The young highly intelligent lady has completed studies, is now

preparing for GRE etc to go to USA.A marriage to US based

bridegroom 'most welcome',hence I receive for matching all US based

eligible horoscopes.

 

Astrology is indicative, but parental responsibilities are

inevitable.Life goes on.

 

Thank you all once again.

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote:

> Dear Satish,

> As I see the chart, it appears that chance for successful marriage

> are not there with both charts.

> However, marriage could be possible due to efforts of parents +

> professinal reasons.

> Venus in 9th with Rahu is somehow connected to 11th. As Mercury can

> give Sun's results [11th lord in 10th with Mercury] and Rahu is

> representing Mercury. So Mercury+Sun results could be given by Rahu.

> Rahu is in its own star, so Rahu is somehow connected with 11th to

> give its results. So Venus + Rahu although standing for 9th and 8th

> [neutral houses to marriage] can bestow marriage.

> But this combination of Ven+Rahu getting aspect from Saturn and

> Jupiter [6th, 12th,1st,4th, & 5th] weakens the continuity of marriage.

>

> Saturn in 12th in star of Moon in 12th and sub of Sun again

> signifying 12th gives very negative indications for continuation of

> marriage.

>

> As for timings of marriage , in my judgement Saturn Bhukti can not

> give marriage as star and sub both are not favorable.

> Mercury bhukti is favorable or still better favorable is Ketu

bhukti.

> Migration to foreign country is also indicated alongwith marriage.

> Good luck

> Inder

>

> , " rsatish1942 " <rsatish1942>

> wrote:

> > Dear Inder,

> >

> > Thank you for your interest.

> > Birth details 25-7-1982 12-17p/m(noon) place chembur Mumbai.Birth

> > time may require minor correction,Mr Raichur has corrected to12-

15-

> > 30.If you wish you may use this info.

> >

> > Awaiting response.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Satish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- In , " Inder " <indervohra2001>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Satish,

> > > Date of birth is 25th July and not 12th July?? Isnt it??

> > > Inder

> > >

> > > , " Inder "

<indervohra2001>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > Taking 12:17 as correct time of birth, chart does not

indicate

> > > happy

> > > > prospects of the marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Sub of lagna Ketu in Venus star and Venus in Gemini with Rahu

> > > shows

> > > > native to be good looking, social, and unstaedy person. This

> also

> > > > shows multiple love affairs.[venus+rahu+gemini].

> > > >

> > > > Rahu representing Mercury which is in 10th with Sun shows

that

> > she

> > > > must be talented in fine arts[acting or singing or intruments

> > etc]

> > > > and will earn name. Venus sub lord of 5th also in Rahu star

> and

> > > with

> > > > Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in 9th also shows problems with parents. moreover,Venus

> in

> > > sub

> > > > of Saturn with Moon in 12 shows loss of reputation and

> problems.

> > > >

> > > > Venus is 7th cusp sublord, in star of Rahu and sub of Saturn

> in

> > > > 12th and Saturn signfying Moon [association + in the star of

> > Moon]

> > > > indicates loss of prospects to marrage.

> > > >

> > > > As Moon is in star of Rahu may indicate her rise in

> professinal

> > > > career in fine arts and other Ventures.[gemini+rahu multiple]

> > > > Rahu sublord of 2nd cusp also means fine money prospects

> through

> > > > professinal activities.

> > > >

> > > > In these circumstances PP may not be of any importance here.

> > > >

> > > > Inder

> > > >

> > > > , " rsatish1942 "

> > > <rsatish1942>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Punitji,Raichurji,TW and other friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Your observations on life events of the girl was verified

> with

> > > > father

> > > > >

> > > > > and they are to a large extent correct.The girl wear

> > > glasses,they

> > > > > was a loss of money Rs 30,000 because somebody defraude

> > them.The

> > > > girl

> > > > > had break in education due health problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > To help you in your assessment further, The Father is a

> very

> > > > senior

> > > > > exective officer( head) of PSU will be retiring next year

> > > > may.Mother

> > > > > is a lecturer in college.One younger brother in 11th, The

> young

> > > > lady

> > > > > is very keen to get married to USA based boy

> > > > >

> > > > > The birth time of 12-17 recorded, was verified to be

> correct

> > as

> > > > rhe

> > > > > father was present at the nursing home at delivery

time.This

> is

> > > > for

> > > > > Mr Raichur and Mr TW.I tried minor correction to 12 -21pm

> with

> > > the

> > > > > Venus sub -sub of Lagna and Moon become same.

> > > > >

> > > > > I trust the info is adequate for prediction.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Punit Pandey

> <punitp@g...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Tw ji,

> > > > > > From the initial observation, it looks the case of

denial

> of

> > > > > marriage. To

> > > > > > some extent, the answer also depends upon Satish ji's

> answer

> > > to

> > > > my

> > > > > > questions. That will help in determining the nature of

> Moon

> > > and

> > > > > Saturn. If

> > > > > > those are not that much malefic than I would say that it

> must

> > > be

> > > > in

> > > > > > Rahu-Saturn-Mars i.e. Feb to Apr 2007.

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Punit ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is

> > interesting

> > > > for

> > > > > > > our practical study.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your

> > > > humble " only

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to

give

> > > > example

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > others.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a

> > > little

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > about the timing of marriage of that female native

> > mentioned

> > > by

> > > > > > > Satish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- In , Punit Pandey

> > <punitp@g...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Tw ji,

> > > > > > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner.

According

> to

> > > my

> > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage

and

> > > > financial

> > > > > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will

> not

> > > enjoy

> > > > > > > happy married

> > > > > > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are

as

> > > > follows,

> > > > > > > just to

> > > > > > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > > > > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to

> > eyesight.

> > > > > > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced

> the

> > > > theft

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > sudden

> > > > > > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in

> this

> > > > year's

> > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in

her

> > > mind

> > > > our

> > > > > > > unforeseen

> > > > > > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.

> > > > > > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Punit,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be

> kind

> > > > > enough to

> > > > > > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the

> > > > > combination of

> > > > > > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish

to

> be

> > > > able

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over

> rule

> > > > > whatsoever

> > > > > > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules

> but

> > it

> > > > may

> > > > > be a

> > > > > > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in

> > > Vaikari

> > > > > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of

> his

> > > > bride

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with

> > > Punarpho

> > > > got

> > > > > > > > > married next day with her younger and more

beautiful

> > > sister

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > to her arrangement.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey

> > > > <punitp@g...>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -

> > > > > > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a

blind

> > > horse

> > > > > > > (Punit:

> > > > > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing

> something

> > > > > else) /

> > > > > > > > > damaged

> > > > > > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody

> well/

> > > > poison

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > milk. If one

> > > > > > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect

> of

> > > > both

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > damaged.

> > > > > > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and

> act

> > > > like

> > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > artificial

> > > > > > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted,

> Moon

> > > > > effect is

> > > > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon

> improves,

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > > effect is

> > > > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon

> improves,

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > > effect goes.

> > > > > > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful

> will

> > be

> > > > > decided

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > the shape

> > > > > > > > > > of the eye.

> > > > > > > > > > In case of Benefic combination -

> > > > > > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet

> with

> > > > them,

> > > > > > > Moon-

> > > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give

> help.

> > > > > > > > > > In case of Malefic combination -

> > > > > > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth

> will

> > > be

> > > > > enjoyed

> > > > > > > > > by his

> > > > > > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and

> > > > depression.

> > > > > > > > > Person will not

> > > > > > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden

tragedy,

> > > loss

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > eyesight, Cross

> > > > > > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members

> > > > > > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP

> > > system

> > > > > > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is

> > > blended

> > > > with

> > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > western

> > > > > > > > > > > principles-

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava

> > results -

> > > > > > > > > benefic/malefis and

> > > > > > > > > > > the timing of events -

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa

> has

> > > not

> > > > > > > chnaged

> > > > > > > > > in the KP

> > > > > > > > > > > system.

> > > > > > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do

> > > > confuse -

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > littele

> > > > > > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily

> > arrive

> > > > at

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > results-

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do

> > best

> > > > in KP

> > > > > > > > > system -

> > > > > > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional

> > system

> > > is

> > > > > > > ignored.

> > > > > > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of

> Shadbalas ,

> > > > > > > > > shodasavarga,

> > > > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,

> > > > > > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc.,

> > > > > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each

system

> > has

> > > > it's

> > > > > own

> > > > > > > > > merits /

> > > > > > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and

> > > > different

> > > > > > > parts

> > > > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular

> > chart

> > > > > depends

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > the nature

> > > > > > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the

> > > > Astrologer-

> > > > > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied

where

> > > > planets

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > grouped in a

> > > > > > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi

> > sandhi

> > > > > etc., -

> > > > > > > > > because the KP

> > > > > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is

> > > posited -

> > > >

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > > > lord / star

> > > > > > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional

system

> a

> > > > span

> > > > > of 30

> > > > > > > > > degrees in

> > > > > > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken -

> for

> > > > minute

> > > > > > > study

> > > > > > > > > they go to

> > > > > > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply

> all

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > priniciples of that

> > > > > > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different

> > systems.

> > > > > > > > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while

> reading

> > > > charts

> > > > > > > in KP

> > > > > > > > > system -

> > > > > > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight

> forward

> > > > rules

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > formed -

> > > > > > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -

> > > > > > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA /

> RASI

> > > > TATWA

> > > > > IN

> > > > > > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -

> > > > > > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.

> > > > > > > > > > > rao chitturu.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > helllo members,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take

> part

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > discussion

> > > > > > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as

per

> > > BPHS,

> > > > i

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > that bphs is

> > > > > > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian

> > > > astrology

> > > > > so i

> > > > > > > m

> > > > > > > > > including

> > > > > > > > > > > that thing.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with

disease

> > > > related

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > blood.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > tarun

> > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Satish,

 

1. Another positive prediction is that she may settle abroad

because:

 

1) 9CSL & 1H signify 3 or 9 or 12 house and 3-9 connected to each

other & 12. (N. Pandu, KP Year Book 2002 page 39-41 and FOREIGN

SETTLEMENT.doc, A SURVEY OF 100 CHARTS in our group file)

 

2) Affliction to 4th house and role of 9, 12 house and current dasa

Rahu are favourable for settling down abroad. (M.S. Mehta: Planets

and Travel abroad, page 84)

 

3) The 12 th lord is also the 9 th lord and shows foreign residence

due to higher education. (Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrlogy, page

566)

 

4) A typical signification of foreign settlement --- lord of Asc or

lord of 4th house in 9th house (Andrzej Wesolowski, late Polish

astrologer: Ogolny plan interpretacji horoskopu, General plan of

horoscope interpretation)

 

 

2. Now the girl's chart seems consistent with " lady has completed

studies " as indicated by 9 & 12 houses in Ra/Ju dasa sequence. (And

it was said before " The girl had break in education due health

problem. " )

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " rsatish1942 " <rsatish1942>

wrote:

> Dear Sri Raichur,Sri Inder vohra,and friends,

>

> Many thanks for spending time to assess my friend's daughter's

> horoscope on the subject of marriage.-

> The summary of the observations was communicated

> in " appropriate " way,respecting the parent's expectations.It

becomes

> impossible to convey negative aspects. Using Basic astrological

> principles of Vedic astro, I had indicated many months ago to the

> parents, my assessment, that foreign connections for higher

studies

> were indicated .Venus/Rahu indicates a possibility of marriage out

of

> caste,non brahmin etc.was indicated as girl making her' own

choice'.

> Sat/Moon effect showing up as 'delays' and hence marriage should

not

> be rushed thru.

>

> The young highly intelligent lady has completed studies, is now

> preparing for GRE etc to go to USA.A marriage to US based

> bridegroom 'most welcome',hence I receive for matching all US

based

> eligible horoscopes.

>

> Astrology is indicative, but parental responsibilities are

> inevitable.Life goes on.

>

> Thank you all once again.

>

> Regards,

>

> Satish

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In , " Inder " <indervohra2001>

wrote:

> > Dear Satish,

> > As I see the chart, it appears that chance for successful

marriage

> > are not there with both charts.

> > However, marriage could be possible due to efforts of parents +

> > professinal reasons.

> > Venus in 9th with Rahu is somehow connected to 11th. As Mercury

can

> > give Sun's results [11th lord in 10th with Mercury] and Rahu is

> > representing Mercury. So Mercury+Sun results could be given by

Rahu.

> > Rahu is in its own star, so Rahu is somehow connected with 11th

to

> > give its results. So Venus + Rahu although standing for 9th and

8th

> > [neutral houses to marriage] can bestow marriage.

> > But this combination of Ven+Rahu getting aspect from Saturn and

> > Jupiter [6th, 12th,1st,4th, & 5th] weakens the continuity of

marriage.

> >

> > Saturn in 12th in star of Moon in 12th and sub of Sun again

> > signifying 12th gives very negative indications for continuation

of

> > marriage.

> >

> > As for timings of marriage , in my judgement Saturn Bhukti can

not

> > give marriage as star and sub both are not favorable.

> > Mercury bhukti is favorable or still better favorable is Ketu

> bhukti.

> > Migration to foreign country is also indicated alongwith

marriage.

> > Good luck

> > Inder

> >

> > , " rsatish1942 "

<rsatish1942>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Inder,

> > >

> > > Thank you for your interest.

> > > Birth details 25-7-1982 12-17p/m(noon) place chembur

Mumbai.Birth

> > > time may require minor correction,Mr Raichur has corrected

to12-

> 15-

> > > 30.If you wish you may use this info.

> > >

> > > Awaiting response.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Satish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- In , " Inder "

<indervohra2001>

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > Date of birth is 25th July and not 12th July?? Isnt it??

> > > > Inder

> > > >

> > > > , " Inder "

> <indervohra2001>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > > Taking 12:17 as correct time of birth, chart does not

> indicate

> > > > happy

> > > > > prospects of the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sub of lagna Ketu in Venus star and Venus in Gemini with

Rahu

> > > > shows

> > > > > native to be good looking, social, and unstaedy person.

This

> > also

> > > > > shows multiple love affairs.[venus+rahu+gemini].

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu representing Mercury which is in 10th with Sun shows

> that

> > > she

> > > > > must be talented in fine arts[acting or singing or

intruments

> > > etc]

> > > > > and will earn name. Venus sub lord of 5th also in Rahu

star

> > and

> > > > with

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 9th also shows problems with parents.

moreover,Venus

> > in

> > > > sub

> > > > > of Saturn with Moon in 12 shows loss of reputation and

> > problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus is 7th cusp sublord, in star of Rahu and sub of

Saturn

> > in

> > > > > 12th and Saturn signfying Moon [association + in the star

of

> > > Moon]

> > > > > indicates loss of prospects to marrage.

> > > > >

> > > > > As Moon is in star of Rahu may indicate her rise in

> > professinal

> > > > > career in fine arts and other Ventures.[gemini+rahu

multiple]

> > > > > Rahu sublord of 2nd cusp also means fine money prospects

> > through

> > > > > professinal activities.

> > > > >

> > > > > In these circumstances PP may not be of any importance

here.

> > > > >

> > > > > Inder

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rsatish1942 "

> > > > <rsatish1942>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Punitji,Raichurji,TW and other friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your observations on life events of the girl was

verified

> > with

> > > > > father

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and they are to a large extent correct.The girl wear

> > > > glasses,they

> > > > > > was a loss of money Rs 30,000 because somebody defraude

> > > them.The

> > > > > girl

> > > > > > had break in education due health problem.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To help you in your assessment further, The Father is a

> > very

> > > > > senior

> > > > > > exective officer( head) of PSU will be retiring next

year

> > > > > may.Mother

> > > > > > is a lecturer in college.One younger brother in 11th,

The

> > young

> > > > > lady

> > > > > > is very keen to get married to USA based boy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The birth time of 12-17 recorded, was verified to be

> > correct

> > > as

> > > > > rhe

> > > > > > father was present at the nursing home at delivery

> time.This

> > is

> > > > > for

> > > > > > Mr Raichur and Mr TW.I tried minor correction to 12 -

21pm

> > with

> > > > the

> > > > > > Venus sub -sub of Lagna and Moon become same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I trust the info is adequate for prediction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Satish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Punit Pandey

> > <punitp@g...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Tw ji,

> > > > > > > From the initial observation, it looks the case of

> denial

> > of

> > > > > > marriage. To

> > > > > > > some extent, the answer also depends upon Satish ji's

> > answer

> > > > to

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > questions. That will help in determining the nature of

> > Moon

> > > > and

> > > > > > Saturn. If

> > > > > > > those are not that much malefic than I would say that

it

> > must

> > > > be

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > Rahu-Saturn-Mars i.e. Feb to Apr 2007.

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is

> > > interesting

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > our practical study.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your

> > > > > humble " only

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to

> give

> > > > > example

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > others.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell

us a

> > > > little

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > about the timing of marriage of that female native

> > > mentioned

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > Satish.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- In , Punit Pandey

> > > <punitp@g...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Tw ji,

> > > > > > > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner.

> According

> > to

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage

> and

> > > > > financial

> > > > > > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji

will

> > not

> > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > > happy married

> > > > > > > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations

are

> as

> > > > > follows,

> > > > > > > > just to

> > > > > > > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > > > > > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to

> > > eyesight.

> > > > > > > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have

faced

> > the

> > > > > theft

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > sudden

> > > > > > > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too

in

> > this

> > > > > year's

> > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in

> her

> > > > mind

> > > > > our

> > > > > > > > unforeseen

> > > > > > > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of

mind.

> > > > > > > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you

be

> > kind

> > > > > > enough to

> > > > > > > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for

the

> > > > > > combination of

> > > > > > > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by

Satish

> to

> > be

> > > > > able

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in

Msg#5941.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to

over

> > rule

> > > > > > whatsoever

> > > > > > > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord

rules

> > but

> > > it

> > > > > may

> > > > > > be a

> > > > > > > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example,

in

> > > > Vaikari

> > > > > > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away

of

> > his

> > > > > bride

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with

> > > > Punarpho

> > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > > married next day with her younger and more

> beautiful

> > > > sister

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > > to her arrangement.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey

> > > > > <punitp@g...>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -

> > > > > > > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a

> blind

> > > > horse

> > > > > > > > (Punit:

> > > > > > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing

> > something

> > > > > > else) /

> > > > > > > > > > damaged

> > > > > > > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody

> > well/

> > > > > poison

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > milk. If one

> > > > > > > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic.

Effect

> > of

> > > > > both

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > damaged.

> > > > > > > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age

and

> > act

> > > > > like

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > artificial

> > > > > > > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is

afflicted,

> > Moon

> > > > > > effect is

> > > > > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon

> > improves,

> > > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > > > effect is

> > > > > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon

> > improves,

> > > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > > > effect goes.

> > > > > > > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > decided

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > the shape

> > > > > > > > > > > of the eye.

> > > > > > > > > > > In case of Benefic combination -

> > > > > > > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent

planet

> > with

> > > > > them,

> > > > > > > > Moon-

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give

> > help.

> > > > > > > > > > > In case of Malefic combination -

> > > > > > > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His

wealth

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > enjoyed

> > > > > > > > > > by his

> > > > > > > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness

and

> > > > > depression.

> > > > > > > > > > Person will not

> > > > > > > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden

> tragedy,

> > > > loss

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > eyesight, Cross

> > > > > > > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members

> > > > > > > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading

KP

> > > > system

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system

is

> > > > blended

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > western

> > > > > > > > > > > > principles-

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava

> > > results -

> > > > > > > > > > benefic/malefis and

> > > > > > > > > > > > the timing of events -

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava

tatwa

> > has

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > chnaged

> > > > > > > > > > in the KP

> > > > > > > > > > > > system.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets -

do

> > > > > confuse -

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > littele

> > > > > > > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can

easily

> > > arrive

> > > > > at

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > results-

> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can

do

> > > best

> > > > > in KP

> > > > > > > > > > system -

> > > > > > > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu

traditional

> > > system

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > ignored.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of

> > Shadbalas ,

> > > > > > > > > > shodasavarga,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,

> > > > > > > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas

etc.,

> > > > > > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each

> system

> > > has

> > > > > it's

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > > > merits /

> > > > > > > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times

and

> > > > > different

> > > > > > > > parts

> > > > > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a

particular

> > > chart

> > > > > > depends

> > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > the nature

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the

> > > > > Astrologer-

> > > > > > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied

> where

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > grouped in a

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi /

rasi

> > > sandhi

> > > > > > etc., -

> > > > > > > > > > because the KP

> > > > > > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet

is

> > > > posited -

> > > > >

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > > > > lord / star

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional

> system

> > a

> > > > > span

> > > > > > of 30

> > > > > > > > > > degrees in

> > > > > > > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are

taken -

> > for

> > > > > minute

> > > > > > > > study

> > > > > > > > > > they go to

> > > > > > > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system

apply

> > all

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > priniciples of that

> > > > > > > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different

> > > systems.

> > > > > > > > > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while

> > reading

> > > > > charts

> > > > > > > > in KP

> > > > > > > > > > system -

> > > > > > > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight

> > forward

> > > > > rules

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > formed -

> > > > > > > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -

> > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA

TATWA /

> > RASI

> > > > > TATWA

> > > > > > IN

> > > > > > > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -

> > > > > > > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.

> > > > > > > > > > > > rao chitturu.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > helllo members,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to

take

> > part

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > discussion

> > > > > > > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as

> per

> > > > BPHS,

> > > > > i

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > that bphs is

> > > > > > > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of

indian

> > > > > astrology

> > > > > > so i

> > > > > > > > m

> > > > > > > > > > including

> > > > > > > > > > > > that thing.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with

> disease

> > > > > related

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > blood.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > tarun

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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