Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Dear Punitji,Raichurji,TW and other friends, Your observations on life events of the girl was verified with father and they are to a large extent correct.The girl wear glasses,they was a loss of money Rs 30,000 because somebody defraude them.The girl had break in education due health problem. To help you in your assessment further, The Father is a very senior exective officer( head) of PSU will be retiring next year may.Mother is a lecturer in college.One younger brother in 11th, The young lady is very keen to get married to USA based boy The birth time of 12-17 recorded, was verified to be correct as rhe father was present at the nursing home at delivery time.This is for Mr Raichur and Mr TW.I tried minor correction to 12 -21pm with the Venus sub -sub of Lagna and Moon become same. I trust the info is adequate for prediction. Regards, Satish , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Tw ji, > From the initial observation, it looks the case of denial of marriage. To > some extent, the answer also depends upon Satish ji's answer to my > questions. That will help in determining the nature of Moon and Saturn. If > those are not that much malefic than I would say that it must be in > Rahu-Saturn-Mars i.e. Feb to Apr 2007. > Thanks & Regards, > Punit Pandey > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for > > our practical study. > > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble " only a > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give example for > > others. > > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little more > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by > > Satish. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Tw ji, > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my > > understanding > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy > > happy married > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows, > > just to > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight. > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft or > > sudden > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this year's > > chart. > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our > > unforeseen > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind. > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Punit, > > > > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind enough to > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the combination of > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able to > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule whatsoever > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may be a > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride > > with > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > > thanks > > > > to her arrangement. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > Friends, > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga - > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > > (Punit: > > > > native > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something else) / > > > > damaged > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison in > > > > milk. If one > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both will > > be > > > > damaged. > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like an > > > > artificial > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon effect is > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's > > > > effect is > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's > > > > effect goes. > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be decided > > by > > > > the shape > > > > > of the eye. > > > > > In case of Benefic combination - > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them, > > Moon- > > > > Saturn > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help. > > > > > In case of Malefic combination - > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be enjoyed > > > > by his > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression. > > > > Person will not > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of > > > > eyesight, Cross > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended with > > some > > > > western > > > > > > principles- > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > benefic/malefis and > > > > > > the timing of events - > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not > > chnaged > > > > in the KP > > > > > > system. > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse - but > > > > littele > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at the > > > > results- > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in KP > > > > system - > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is > > ignored. > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas , > > > > shodasavarga, > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc., > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's own > > > > merits / > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different > > parts > > > > of the > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart depends > > on > > > > the nature > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer- > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets are > > > > grouped in a > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi etc., - > > > > because the KP > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - its > > sign > > > > lord / star > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span of 30 > > > > degrees in > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute > > study > > > > they go to > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the > > > > priniciples of that > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems. > > > > > > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts > > in KP > > > > system - > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules can > > be > > > > formed - > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently - > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA IN > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM - > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES. > > > > > > rao chitturu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > helllo members, > > > > > > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in > > > > discussion > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate. > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i know > > > > that bphs is > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology so i > > m > > > > including > > > > > > that thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related to > > > > blood. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your > > > > group " <> " > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Dear Satish, Taking 12:17 as correct time of birth, chart does not indicate happy prospects of the marriage. Sub of lagna Ketu in Venus star and Venus in Gemini with Rahu shows native to be good looking, social, and unstaedy person. This also shows multiple love affairs.[venus+rahu+gemini]. Rahu representing Mercury which is in 10th with Sun shows that she must be talented in fine arts[acting or singing or intruments etc] and will earn name. Venus sub lord of 5th also in Rahu star and with Rahu. Rahu in 9th also shows problems with parents. moreover,Venus in sub of Saturn with Moon in 12 shows loss of reputation and problems. Venus is 7th cusp sublord, in star of Rahu and sub of Saturn in 12th and Saturn signfying Moon [association + in the star of Moon] indicates loss of prospects to marrage. As Moon is in star of Rahu may indicate her rise in professinal career in fine arts and other Ventures.[gemini+rahu multiple] Rahu sublord of 2nd cusp also means fine money prospects through professinal activities. In these circumstances PP may not be of any importance here. Inder , " rsatish1942 " <rsatish1942> wrote: > Dear Punitji,Raichurji,TW and other friends, > > Your observations on life events of the girl was verified with father > > and they are to a large extent correct.The girl wear glasses,they > was a loss of money Rs 30,000 because somebody defraude them.The girl > had break in education due health problem. > > To help you in your assessment further, The Father is a very senior > exective officer( head) of PSU will be retiring next year may.Mother > is a lecturer in college.One younger brother in 11th, The young lady > is very keen to get married to USA based boy > > The birth time of 12-17 recorded, was verified to be correct as rhe > father was present at the nursing home at delivery time.This is for > Mr Raichur and Mr TW.I tried minor correction to 12 -21pm with the > Venus sub -sub of Lagna and Moon become same. > > I trust the info is adequate for prediction. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Tw ji, > > From the initial observation, it looks the case of denial of > marriage. To > > some extent, the answer also depends upon Satish ji's answer to my > > questions. That will help in determining the nature of Moon and > Saturn. If > > those are not that much malefic than I would say that it must be in > > Rahu-Saturn-Mars i.e. Feb to Apr 2007. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for > > > our practical study. > > > > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble " only > a > > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give example > for > > > others. > > > > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little > more > > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by > > > Satish. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > wrote: > > > > Tw ji, > > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my > > > understanding > > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy > > > happy married > > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows, > > > just to > > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight. > > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft > or > > > sudden > > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this year's > > > chart. > > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our > > > unforeseen > > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind. > > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit, > > > > > > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind > enough to > > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the > combination of > > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able > to > > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > > > > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule > whatsoever > > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may > be a > > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride > > > with > > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got > > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > > > thanks > > > > > to her arrangement. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga - > > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > > > (Punit: > > > > > native > > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something > else) / > > > > > damaged > > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison > in > > > > > milk. If one > > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both > will > > > be > > > > > damaged. > > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like > an > > > > > artificial > > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon > effect is > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > Saturn's > > > > > effect is > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > Saturn's > > > > > effect goes. > > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be > decided > > > by > > > > > the shape > > > > > > of the eye. > > > > > > In case of Benefic combination - > > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them, > > > Moon- > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help. > > > > > > In case of Malefic combination - > > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be > enjoyed > > > > > by his > > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression. > > > > > Person will not > > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of > > > > > eyesight, Cross > > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members > > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system > > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended with > > > some > > > > > western > > > > > > > principles- > > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > > benefic/malefis and > > > > > > > the timing of events - > > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not > > > chnaged > > > > > in the KP > > > > > > > system. > > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse - > but > > > > > littele > > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at > the > > > > > results- > > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in KP > > > > > system - > > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is > > > ignored. > > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas , > > > > > shodasavarga, > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc., > > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's > own > > > > > merits / > > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different > > > parts > > > > > of the > > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart > depends > > > on > > > > > the nature > > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer- > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets > are > > > > > grouped in a > > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi > etc., - > > > > > because the KP > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - > its > > > sign > > > > > lord / star > > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span > of 30 > > > > > degrees in > > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute > > > study > > > > > they go to > > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the > > > > > priniciples of that > > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems. > > > > > > > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts > > > in KP > > > > > system - > > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules > can > > > be > > > > > formed - > > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently - > > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA > IN > > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM - > > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES. > > > > > > > rao chitturu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helllo members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i > know > > > > > that bphs is > > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology > so i > > > m > > > > > including > > > > > > > that thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related > to > > > > > blood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your > > > > > group " <> " > > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Dear Satish, Date of birth is 25th July and not 12th July?? Isnt it?? Inder , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Satish, > Taking 12:17 as correct time of birth, chart does not indicate happy > prospects of the marriage. > > Sub of lagna Ketu in Venus star and Venus in Gemini with Rahu shows > native to be good looking, social, and unstaedy person. This also > shows multiple love affairs.[venus+rahu+gemini]. > > Rahu representing Mercury which is in 10th with Sun shows that she > must be talented in fine arts[acting or singing or intruments etc] > and will earn name. Venus sub lord of 5th also in Rahu star and with > Rahu. > > Rahu in 9th also shows problems with parents. moreover,Venus in sub > of Saturn with Moon in 12 shows loss of reputation and problems. > > Venus is 7th cusp sublord, in star of Rahu and sub of Saturn in > 12th and Saturn signfying Moon [association + in the star of Moon] > indicates loss of prospects to marrage. > > As Moon is in star of Rahu may indicate her rise in professinal > career in fine arts and other Ventures.[gemini+rahu multiple] > Rahu sublord of 2nd cusp also means fine money prospects through > professinal activities. > > In these circumstances PP may not be of any importance here. > > Inder > > , " rsatish1942 " <rsatish1942> > wrote: > > Dear Punitji,Raichurji,TW and other friends, > > > > Your observations on life events of the girl was verified with > father > > > > and they are to a large extent correct.The girl wear glasses,they > > was a loss of money Rs 30,000 because somebody defraude them.The > girl > > had break in education due health problem. > > > > To help you in your assessment further, The Father is a very > senior > > exective officer( head) of PSU will be retiring next year > may.Mother > > is a lecturer in college.One younger brother in 11th, The young > lady > > is very keen to get married to USA based boy > > > > The birth time of 12-17 recorded, was verified to be correct as > rhe > > father was present at the nursing home at delivery time.This is > for > > Mr Raichur and Mr TW.I tried minor correction to 12 -21pm with the > > Venus sub -sub of Lagna and Moon become same. > > > > I trust the info is adequate for prediction. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > wrote: > > > Tw ji, > > > From the initial observation, it looks the case of denial of > > marriage. To > > > some extent, the answer also depends upon Satish ji's answer to > my > > > questions. That will help in determining the nature of Moon and > > Saturn. If > > > those are not that much malefic than I would say that it must be > in > > > Rahu-Saturn-Mars i.e. Feb to Apr 2007. > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting > for > > > > our practical study. > > > > > > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your > humble " only > > a > > > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give > example > > for > > > > others. > > > > > > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little > > more > > > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by > > > > Satish. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > Tw ji, > > > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my > > > > understanding > > > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and > financial > > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy > > > > happy married > > > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as > follows, > > > > just to > > > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight. > > > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the > theft > > or > > > > sudden > > > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this > year's > > > > chart. > > > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind > our > > > > unforeseen > > > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind. > > > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind > > enough to > > > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the > > combination of > > > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be > able > > to > > > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule > > whatsoever > > > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it > may > > be a > > > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his > bride > > > > with > > > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho > got > > > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > > > > thanks > > > > > > to her arrangement. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey > <punitp@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga - > > > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > > > > (Punit: > > > > > > native > > > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something > > else) / > > > > > > damaged > > > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ > poison > > in > > > > > > milk. If one > > > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of > both > > will > > > > be > > > > > > damaged. > > > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act > like > > an > > > > > > artificial > > > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon > > effect is > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > > Saturn's > > > > > > effect is > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > > Saturn's > > > > > > effect goes. > > > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be > > decided > > > > by > > > > > > the shape > > > > > > > of the eye. > > > > > > > In case of Benefic combination - > > > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with > them, > > > > Moon- > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help. > > > > > > > In case of Malefic combination - > > > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be > > enjoyed > > > > > > by his > > > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and > depression. > > > > > > Person will not > > > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss > of > > > > > > eyesight, Cross > > > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems. > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members > > > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system > > > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended > with > > > > some > > > > > > western > > > > > > > > principles- > > > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > > > benefic/malefis and > > > > > > > > the timing of events - > > > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not > > > > chnaged > > > > > > in the KP > > > > > > > > system. > > > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do > confuse - > > but > > > > > > littele > > > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive > at > > the > > > > > > results- > > > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best > in KP > > > > > > system - > > > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is > > > > ignored. > > > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas , > > > > > > shodasavarga, > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc., > > > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has > it's > > own > > > > > > merits / > > > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and > different > > > > parts > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart > > depends > > > > on > > > > > > the nature > > > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the > Astrologer- > > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where > planets > > are > > > > > > grouped in a > > > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi > > etc., - > > > > > > because the KP > > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - > > > its > > > > sign > > > > > > lord / star > > > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a > span > > of 30 > > > > > > degrees in > > > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for > minute > > > > study > > > > > > they go to > > > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the > > > > > > priniciples of that > > > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems. > > > > > > > > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading > charts > > > > in KP > > > > > > system - > > > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward > rules > > can > > > > be > > > > > > formed - > > > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently - > > > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI > TATWA > > IN > > > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM - > > > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES. > > > > > > > > rao chitturu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helllo members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, > i > > know > > > > > > that bphs is > > > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian > astrology > > so i > > > > m > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > that thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease > related > > to > > > > > > blood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your > > > > > > > group " <> " > > > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Dear Inder, Thank you for your interest. Birth details 25-7-1982 12-17p/m(noon) place chembur Mumbai.Birth time may require minor correction,Mr Raichur has corrected to12-15- 30.If you wish you may use this info. Awaiting response. Regards, Satish -- In , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Satish, > Date of birth is 25th July and not 12th July?? Isnt it?? > Inder > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > Taking 12:17 as correct time of birth, chart does not indicate > happy > > prospects of the marriage. > > > > Sub of lagna Ketu in Venus star and Venus in Gemini with Rahu > shows > > native to be good looking, social, and unstaedy person. This also > > shows multiple love affairs.[venus+rahu+gemini]. > > > > Rahu representing Mercury which is in 10th with Sun shows that she > > must be talented in fine arts[acting or singing or intruments etc] > > and will earn name. Venus sub lord of 5th also in Rahu star and > with > > Rahu. > > > > Rahu in 9th also shows problems with parents. moreover,Venus in > sub > > of Saturn with Moon in 12 shows loss of reputation and problems. > > > > Venus is 7th cusp sublord, in star of Rahu and sub of Saturn in > > 12th and Saturn signfying Moon [association + in the star of Moon] > > indicates loss of prospects to marrage. > > > > As Moon is in star of Rahu may indicate her rise in professinal > > career in fine arts and other Ventures.[gemini+rahu multiple] > > Rahu sublord of 2nd cusp also means fine money prospects through > > professinal activities. > > > > In these circumstances PP may not be of any importance here. > > > > Inder > > > > , " rsatish1942 " > <rsatish1942> > > wrote: > > > Dear Punitji,Raichurji,TW and other friends, > > > > > > Your observations on life events of the girl was verified with > > father > > > > > > and they are to a large extent correct.The girl wear > glasses,they > > > was a loss of money Rs 30,000 because somebody defraude them.The > > girl > > > had break in education due health problem. > > > > > > To help you in your assessment further, The Father is a very > > senior > > > exective officer( head) of PSU will be retiring next year > > may.Mother > > > is a lecturer in college.One younger brother in 11th, The young > > lady > > > is very keen to get married to USA based boy > > > > > > The birth time of 12-17 recorded, was verified to be correct as > > rhe > > > father was present at the nursing home at delivery time.This is > > for > > > Mr Raichur and Mr TW.I tried minor correction to 12 -21pm with > the > > > Venus sub -sub of Lagna and Moon become same. > > > > > > I trust the info is adequate for prediction. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > wrote: > > > > Tw ji, > > > > From the initial observation, it looks the case of denial of > > > marriage. To > > > > some extent, the answer also depends upon Satish ji's answer > to > > my > > > > questions. That will help in determining the nature of Moon > and > > > Saturn. If > > > > those are not that much malefic than I would say that it must > be > > in > > > > Rahu-Saturn-Mars i.e. Feb to Apr 2007. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting > > for > > > > > our practical study. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your > > humble " only > > > a > > > > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give > > example > > > for > > > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a > little > > > more > > > > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned > by > > > > > Satish. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Tw ji, > > > > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to > my > > > > > understanding > > > > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and > > financial > > > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not > enjoy > > > > > happy married > > > > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as > > follows, > > > > > just to > > > > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight. > > > > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the > > theft > > > or > > > > > sudden > > > > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this > > year's > > > > > chart. > > > > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her > mind > > our > > > > > unforeseen > > > > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind. > > > > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind > > > enough to > > > > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the > > > combination of > > > > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be > > able > > > to > > > > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule > > > whatsoever > > > > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it > > may > > > be a > > > > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in > Vaikari > > > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his > > bride > > > > > with > > > > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with > Punarpho > > got > > > > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful > sister > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > to her arrangement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey > > <punitp@g...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga - > > > > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind > horse > > > > > (Punit: > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something > > > else) / > > > > > > > damaged > > > > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ > > poison > > > in > > > > > > > milk. If one > > > > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of > > both > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > damaged. > > > > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act > > like > > > an > > > > > > > artificial > > > > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon > > > effect is > > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > effect is > > > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > effect goes. > > > > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be > > > decided > > > > > by > > > > > > > the shape > > > > > > > > of the eye. > > > > > > > > In case of Benefic combination - > > > > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with > > them, > > > > > Moon- > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help. > > > > > > > > In case of Malefic combination - > > > > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will > be > > > enjoyed > > > > > > > by his > > > > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and > > depression. > > > > > > > Person will not > > > > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, > loss > > of > > > > > > > eyesight, Cross > > > > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members > > > > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP > system > > > > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is > blended > > with > > > > > some > > > > > > > western > > > > > > > > > principles- > > > > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > > > > benefic/malefis and > > > > > > > > > the timing of events - > > > > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has > not > > > > > chnaged > > > > > > > in the KP > > > > > > > > > system. > > > > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do > > confuse - > > > but > > > > > > > littele > > > > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive > > at > > > the > > > > > > > results- > > > > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best > > in KP > > > > > > > system - > > > > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system > is > > > > > ignored. > > > > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas , > > > > > > > shodasavarga, > > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc., > > > > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has > > it's > > > own > > > > > > > merits / > > > > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and > > different > > > > > parts > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart > > > depends > > > > > on > > > > > > > the nature > > > > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the > > Astrologer- > > > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where > > planets > > > are > > > > > > > grouped in a > > > > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi > > > etc., - > > > > > > > because the KP > > > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is > posited - > > > > > its > > > > > sign > > > > > > > lord / star > > > > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a > > span > > > of 30 > > > > > > > degrees in > > > > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for > > minute > > > > > study > > > > > > > they go to > > > > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all > the > > > > > > > priniciples of that > > > > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems. > > > > > > > > > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading > > charts > > > > > in KP > > > > > > > system - > > > > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward > > rules > > > can > > > > > be > > > > > > > formed - > > > > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently - > > > > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI > > TATWA > > > IN > > > > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM - > > > > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES. > > > > > > > > > rao chitturu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helllo members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part > in > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per > BPHS, > > i > > > know > > > > > > > that bphs is > > > > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian > > astrology > > > so i > > > > > m > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > that thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease > > related > > > to > > > > > > > blood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your > > > > > > > > > group " <> " > > > > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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