saturn+ moon prediction 12-7-1982 marriage.

August 29, 2005

Dear Punitji,

Re your observation,on family happenings some years ago,I shall

revert after speaking to the father.In the meantime your prediction

on marriage time/type of partner would be most welcome,as well from

other esteemed friends of the group.

Regards,

Satish

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> Dear Punit ji,

>

> 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for

> our practical study.

>

> 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble " only

a

> learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give example

for

> others.

>

> 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little

more

> about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by

> Satish.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> > Tw ji,

> > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my

> understanding

> > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial

> > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy

> happy married

> > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,

> just to

> > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.

> > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft or

> sudden

> > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this year's

> chart.

> > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our

> unforeseen

> > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.

> > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Punit,

> > >

> > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind enough

to

> > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the combination

of

> > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able to

> > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941.

> > >

> > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule

whatsoever

> > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may be

a

> > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari

> > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride

> with

> > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got

> > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister

> thanks

> > > to her arrangement.

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>

> wrote:

> > > > Friends,

> > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -

> > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse

> (Punit:

> > > native

> > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something else) /

> > > damaged

> > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison in

> > > milk. If one

> > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both

will

> be

> > > damaged.

> > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like an

> > > artificial

> > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon effect

is

> > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's

> > > effect is

> > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's

> > > effect goes.

> > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be

decided

> by

> > > the shape

> > > > of the eye.

> > > > In case of Benefic combination -

> > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them,

> Moon-

> > > Saturn

> > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.

> > > > In case of Malefic combination -

> > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be

enjoyed

> > > by his

> > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression.

> > > Person will not

> > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of

> > > eyesight, Cross

> > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear Taarun and all members

> > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system

> > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended with

> some

> > > western

> > > > > principles-

> > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results -

> > > benefic/malefis and

> > > > > the timing of events -

> > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not

> chnaged

> > > in the KP

> > > > > system.

> > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -

but

> > > littele

> > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at the

> > > results-

> > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in KP

> > > system -

> > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is

> ignored.

> > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,

> > > shodasavarga,

> > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,

> > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc.,

> > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's

own

> > > merits /

> > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different

> parts

> > > of the

> > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart

depends

> on

> > > the nature

> > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer-

> > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets are

> > > grouped in a

> > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi etc., -

> > > because the KP

> > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - its

> sign

> > > lord / star

> > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span of

30

> > > degrees in

> > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute

> study

> > > they go to

> > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the

> > > priniciples of that

> > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.

> > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts

> in KP

> > > system -

> > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules

can

> be

> > > formed -

> > > > > each chart to be studied independently -

> > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA IN

> > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -

> > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.

> > > > > rao chitturu.

> > > > >

> > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > helllo members,

> > > > >

> > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in

> > > discussion

> > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.

> > > > >

> > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i

know

> > > that bphs is

> > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology so

i

> m

> > > including

> > > > > that thing.

> > > > >

> > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related to

> > > blood.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------

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> > > > >

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August 29, 2005

Satish ji,

I have already responded. Please check message number 5975 (/message/5975)

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 8/29/05, rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote:

Dear Punitji,Re your observation,on family happenings some years ago,I shallrevert after speaking to the father.In the meantime your predictionon marriage time/type of partner would be most welcome,as well fromother esteemed friends of the group.Regards,Satish

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:> Dear Punit ji,>> 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for> our practical study.>

> 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble " onlya> learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give examplefor> others.>> 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little

more> about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by> Satish.>> Thanks and regards,>> tw>>>> -- In

, Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> > Tw ji,> > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my> understanding> > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial

> > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy> happy married> > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,> just to> > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.> > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft or> sudden> > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this year's

> chart.> > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our> unforeseen> > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.> > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> >> > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > >> > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind enough

to> > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the combinationof> > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able to> > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941.

> > >> > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rulewhatsoever> > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may bea> > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari

> > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride> with> > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got> > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister

> thanks> > > to her arrangement.> > >> > > Thanks and regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >

, Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>> wrote:> > > > Friends,> > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -> > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse

> (Punit:> > > native> > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something else) /> > > damaged> > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison in

> > > milk. If one> > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of bothwill> be> > > damaged.> > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like an

> > > artificial> > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon effectis> > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > effect is

> > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > effect goes.> > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will bedecided> by

> > > the shape> > > > of the eye.> > > > In case of Benefic combination -> > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them,> Moon-> > > Saturn

> > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.> > > > In case of Malefic combination -> > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will beenjoyed

> > > by his> > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression.> > > Person will not> > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of

> > > eyesight, Cross> > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu <

csr162002> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear Taarun and all members> > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system> > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended with> some> > > western> > > > > principles-> > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results -

> > > benefic/malefis and> > > > > the timing of events -> > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not> chnaged> > > in the KP

> > > > > system.> > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -but> > > littele> > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at the

> > > results-> > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in KP> > > system -> > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is

> ignored.> > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,> > > shodasavarga,> > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,> > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc.,

> > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it'sown> > > merits /> > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different> parts

> > > of the> > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chartdepends> on> > > the nature> > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer-

> > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets are> > > grouped in a> > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi etc., -> > > because the KP

> > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - its> sign> > > lord / star> > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span of

30> > > degrees in> > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute> study> > > they go to> > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the> > > priniciples of that> > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.> > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts> in KP> > > system -> > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rulescan

> be> > > formed -> > > > > each chart to be studied independently -> > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA IN> > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -> > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.> > > > > rao chitturu.> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote:> > > > >> > > > > helllo members,> > > > >> > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in

> > > discussion> > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.> > > > >> > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, iknow

> > > that bphs is> > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology soi> m> > > including> > > > > that thing.> > > > >

> > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related to> > > blood.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > >> > > > > tarun

> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page> > > > ><

http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

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August 29, 2005

Dear List

I have now corrected the Birth time to 12,.15,30

This gives the ASC sub as MERC. Merc in the chart is conjunct with SUN (rapt). So it

can act as sun. So withis time I will work further.

Regarding SAT+MOON . In the present case I do not consider this as Punrphoo, as Moon

Lords do not have saturn, Nor Saturn,s Lords shown Moon amongst them.

The girl is just 23 years old ,and In these days, it is not considered as DELAYED marriage..

I will post the chart and analysis with 12,15,30 as Birth Timee later.

Good Luck

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Satish ji,

I have already responded. Please check message number 5975 (/message/5975)

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 8/29/05, rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Punitji,Re your observation,on family happenings some years ago,I shallrevert after speaking to the father.In the meantime your predictionon marriage time/type of partner would be most welcome,as well fromother esteemed friends of the group.Regards,Satish , "tw853" <tw853> wrote:> Dear Punit ji,>> 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for> our practical study.>> 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble "onlya> learner", like Sri Raichur saying "intermediate" to give examplefor> others.>> 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little

more> about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by> Satish.>> Thanks and regards,>> tw>>>> -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> > Tw ji,> > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my> understanding> > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy> happy married> > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,> just to> > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.> > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft or> sudden> > loss of money. The same possibility is there too

in this year's > chart.> > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our> unforeseen> > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.> > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> >> > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > >> > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind enough to> > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the combinationof> > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able to> > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > >> > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rulewhatsoever> > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules

but it may bea> > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride> with> > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got> > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > thanks> > > to her arrangement.> > >> > > Thanks and regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>> wrote:> > > > Friends,> > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -> > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > (Punit:> > > native> > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something else) />

> > damaged> > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison in > > > milk. If one> > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of bothwill> be> > > damaged.> > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like an > > > artificial> > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon effectis> > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > effect is > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > effect goes.> > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will bedecided> by> > > the shape> > > > of the eye.> > > > In case of Benefic combination -> > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with

them,> Moon-> > > Saturn > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.> > > > In case of Malefic combination -> > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will beenjoyed > > > by his> > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression.> > > Person will not> > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of > > > eyesight, Cross> > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear Taarun and all members> > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system> > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > >

> 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended with> some> > > western> > > > > principles-> > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > benefic/malefis and> > > > > the timing of events -> > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not> chnaged> > > in the KP> > > > > system.> > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -but> > > littele> > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at the > > > results-> > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in KP> > > system -> > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is > ignored.> > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of

Shadbalas ,> > > shodasavarga,> > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,> > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it'sown> > > merits /> > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different> parts> > > of the> > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chartdepends> on> > > the nature> > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer- > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets are> > > grouped in a> > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi etc., -> > > because the KP > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - its> sign> > > lord

/ star> > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span of30> > > degrees in> > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute> study> > > they go to> > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the> > > priniciples of that> > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.> > > > > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts> in KP> > > system -> > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rulescan> be> > > formed -> > > > > each chart to be studied independently -> > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA

IN> > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -> > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.> > > > > rao chitturu.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote:> > > > >> > > > > helllo members,> > > > >> > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in > > > discussion> > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.> > > > >> > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, iknow > > > that bphs is> > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology soi> m> > > including> > > > > that thing.> > > > > > > > >

> the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related to> > > blood.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > >> > > > > tarun > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page> > > > >< http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > ><http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > !

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August 29, 2005

Dear Sri Raichur,

1. I'm grateful to you for sharing your KP experience with

practical analysis. I'm here to learn KP practically and to

practically contribute something for the lovely spirit of Guruji

KSK. I can learn Vedic, SA etc in other groups from direct

presentations of respective gurus like Sajay Rath, VK Choudhry etc

and from various appropriate books other than here-say endless

talking.

2. After looking at plenty of already studied Punarpho charts as

mentioned in Msg#5902 and 61 charts with Punarpho out of 100 charts

with more than one marriage in the study of KP multimarriage rule,

the girl's chart given by Satish seems interesting to get members'

views because it seems marriage is not promised or even denied as

mentioned by Punit and Kanak as well as by 4-step theory in my

understanding. Since his initial analysis is perfectly correct, I

believe Punit will give his further analysis.

3. For the corrected TOB 12:15:30 pm the 7CSL is same Venus as for

TOB 12:17 pm. Here is an interesting point, which may make the

marriage is promised, is whether Rahu's aspect to Mars can be taken

in signification of Rahu as star lord of Venus. It's also crucial

for the possibility of marriage in current Rahu maha dasa and

otherwise indication of 11th only in 4th step against significators

of marriage denial. As mentioned in Msg#3317, such kind of Jupiter-

like Rahu's aspects are not found in KP Readers and very rare in KP

literature except applied by Dr. Kar, Prof. Balachandran, Dr. Bal

Krishna Singh Hatia but widely applied by Sanjay Rath, VK Choudhry

and others including some KPs.

4. One more interesting point you've mentioned is that my

understanding of finding Moon-Sturn in one sign is not enough to be

Punarpho.

5. I'm looking forward to learn those points practically from your

coming analysis.

6. One more request, could you kindly share just your main finding

in Matching of Charts for Marriage (based on 115 charts of married

couples) in Journal of Astrology Vol. 22 July-September 2002.

Thanks and highest regards,

tw

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear List

>

> I have now corrected the Birth time to 12,.15,30

>

> This gives the ASC sub as MERC. Merc in the chart is conjunct

with SUN (rapt). So it

>

> can act as sun. So withis time I will work further.

>

> Regarding SAT+MOON . In the present case I do not consider this as

Punrphoo, as Moon

>

> Lords do not have saturn, Nor Saturn,s Lords shown Moon amongst

them.

>

> The girl is just 23 years old ,and In these days, it is not

considered as DELAYED marriage..

>

> I will post the chart and analysis with 12,15,30 as Birth Timee

later.

>

> Good Luck

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Satish ji,

>

> I have already responded. Please check message number 5975

(/message/5975)

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On 8/29/05, rsatish1942 <rsatish1942> wrote: Dear Punitji,

>

> Re your observation,on family happenings some years ago,I shall

> revert after speaking to the father.In the meantime your prediction

> on marriage time/type of partner would be most welcome,as well from

> other esteemed friends of the group.

>

> Regards,

> Satish

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> > Dear Punit ji,

> >

> > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for

> > our practical study.

> >

> > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your

humble " only

> a

> > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give example

> for

> > others.

> >

> > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little

> more

> > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by

> > Satish.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > -- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>

wrote:

> > > Tw ji,

> > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my

> > understanding

> > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and

financial

> > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy

> > happy married

> > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,

> > just to

> > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.

> > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft

or

> > sudden

> > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this

year's

> > chart.

> > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our

> > unforeseen

> > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.

> > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On 8/28/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Punit,

> > > >

> > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind

enough

> to

> > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the

combination

> of

> > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able

to

> > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941.

> > > >

> > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule

> whatsoever

> > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may

be

> a

> > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari

> > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride

> > with

> > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got

> > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister

> > thanks

> > > > to her arrangement.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -

> > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse

> > (Punit:

> > > > native

> > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something

else) /

> > > > damaged

> > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/

poison in

> > > > milk. If one

> > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both

> will

> > be

> > > > damaged.

> > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like

an

> > > > artificial

> > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon

effect

> is

> > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves,

Saturn's

> > > > effect is

> > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves,

Saturn's

> > > > effect goes.

> > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be

> decided

> > by

> > > > the shape

> > > > > of the eye.

> > > > > In case of Benefic combination -

> > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them,

> > Moon-

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.

> > > > > In case of Malefic combination -

> > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be

> enjoyed

> > > > by his

> > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and

depression.

> > > > Person will not

> > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of

> > > > eyesight, Cross

> > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear Taarun and all members

> > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system

> > > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended

with

> > some

> > > > western

> > > > > > principles-

> > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results -

> > > > benefic/malefis and

> > > > > > the timing of events -

> > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not

> > chnaged

> > > > in the KP

> > > > > > system.

> > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -

> but

> > > > littele

> > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at

the

> > > > results-

> > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in

KP

> > > > system -

> > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is

> > ignored.

> > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,

> > > > shodasavarga,

> > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,

> > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc.,

> > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's

> own

> > > > merits /

> > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different

> > parts

> > > > of the

> > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart

> depends

> > on

> > > > the nature

> > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer-

> > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets

are

> > > > grouped in a

> > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi

etc., -

> > > > because the KP

> > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited -

its

> > sign

> > > > lord / star

> > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span

of

> 30

> > > > degrees in

> > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute

> > study

> > > > they go to

> > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the

> > > > priniciples of that

> > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.

> > > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading

charts

> > in KP

> > > > system -

> > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules

> can

> > be

> > > > formed -

> > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -

> > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA

IN

> > > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -

> > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.

> > > > > > rao chitturu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>* wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > helllo members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in

> > > > discussion

> > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i

> know

> > > > that bphs is

> > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology

so

> i

> > m

> > > > including

> > > > > > that thing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related

to

> > > > blood.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > > > > >

> < http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > > > > >

> <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

> > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Visit your

> > > > group " < > "

> > > > > > on the web.

> > > > > > -

August 29, 2005

Dear TIN WIN and members

I have analysed the chart of the girl born on 25 july 1982. using the 4 step method.

The chart is North Stle,used in in parts of North India. This I find more easy to check up

conjunctions, borderline of planets etc.

I have tried to give reasons for my conclusions, and hope there are no mistakes. I am still

a student of the 4 step method.

> other esteemed friends of the group.> > Regards,> Satish> > > > > > , "tw853" wrote:> > Dear Punit ji,> >> > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for> > our practical study.> >> > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble "only> a> > learner", like Sri Raichur saying "intermediate" to give example> for> > others.> >> > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little > more> > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by> > Satish.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> >> >> > -- In , Punit Pandey wrote:> > > Tw

ji,> > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my> > understanding> > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy> > happy married> > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,> > just to> > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.> > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft or> > sudden> > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this year's > > chart.> > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our> > unforeseen> > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.> > > Satish ji, your feedback will be

required. > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > > On 8/28/05, tw853 wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Punit,> > > >> > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind enough > to> > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the combination> of> > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able to> > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > >> > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule> whatsoever> > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may be> a> > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his

bride> > with> > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got> > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > > thanks> > > > to her arrangement.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > , Punit Pandey > > wrote:> > > > > Friends,> > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -> > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > > (Punit:> > > > native> > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something else) /> > > > damaged> > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison in >

> > > milk. If one> > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both> will> > be> > > > damaged.> > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like an > > > > artificial> > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon effect> is> > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > > effect is > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > > effect goes.> > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be> decided> > by> > > > the shape> > > > > of the eye.> > > > > In case of Benefic combination -> > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with

them,> > Moon-> > > > Saturn > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.> > > > > In case of Malefic combination -> > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be> enjoyed > > > > by his> > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression.> > > > Person will not> > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of > > > > eyesight, Cross> > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > dear Taarun and all members> > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading

KP system> > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended with> > some> > > > western> > > > > > principles-> > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > benefic/malefis and> > > > > > the timing of events -> > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not> > chnaged> > > > in the KP> > > > > > system.> > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -> but> > > > littele> > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at the > > > > results-> > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in

KP> > > > system -> > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is > > ignored.> > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,> > > > shodasavarga,> > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,> > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's> own> > > > merits /> > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different> > parts> > > > of the> > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart> depends> > on> > > > the nature> > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer- > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be

applied where planets are> > > > grouped in a> > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi etc., -> > > > because the KP > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - its> > sign> > > > lord / star> > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span of> 30> > > > degrees in> > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute> > study> > > > they go to> > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the> > > > priniciples of that> > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.> > > > > > My idea is to tell --- >

> > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts> > in KP> > > > system -> > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules> can> > be> > > > formed -> > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -> > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA IN> > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -> > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.> > > > > > rao chitturu.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ * wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > helllo members,> > > > > >> > > > > > due to internet trouble i

was not able to take part in > > > > discussion> > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.> > > > > >> > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i> know > > > > that bphs is> > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology so> i> > m> > > > including> > > > > > that thing.> > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related to> > > > blood.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > > tarun > > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home

page> > > > > >> < http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > - Visit your> > > > group ""> > > > > > on the web.> > > > > > -

August 29, 2005

Dear TIN WIN and members

I have analysed the chart of the girl born on 25 july 1982. using the 4 step method.

The chart is North Stle,used in in parts of North India. This I find more easy to check up

conjunctions, borderline of planets etc.

I have tried to give reasons for my conclusions, and hope there are no mistakes. I am still

a student of the 4 step method.

I have attached the Zip file. Please open it to get the TXT file. Best read with NEW Corierr

Font size 10

> > , "tw853" wrote:> > Dear Punit ji,> >> > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for> > our practical study.> >> > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your humble "only> a> > learner", like Sri Raichur saying "intermediate" to give example> for> > others.> >> > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little > more> > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by> > Satish.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> >> >> > -- In , Punit Pandey wrote:> > > Tw ji,> > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my> > understanding> > >

of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and financial > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy> > happy married> > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,> > just to> > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.> > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft or> > sudden> > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this year's > > chart.> > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind our> > unforeseen> > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.> > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > > On 8/28/05, tw853

wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Punit,> > > >> > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind enough > to> > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the combination> of> > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able to> > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > >> > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule> whatsoever> > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may be> a> > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride> > with> > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got> > > > married

next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > > thanks> > > > to her arrangement.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > , Punit Pandey > > wrote:> > > > > Friends,> > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -> > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > > (Punit:> > > > native> > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something else) /> > > > damaged> > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ poison in > > > > milk. If one> > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both> will> >

be> > > > damaged.> > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like an > > > > artificial> > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon effect> is> > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > > effect is > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, Saturn's> > > > effect goes.> > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be> decided> > by> > > > the shape> > > > > of the eye.> > > > > In case of Benefic combination -> > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them,> > Moon-> > > > Saturn > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give

help.> > > > > In case of Malefic combination -> > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be> enjoyed > > > > by his> > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and depression.> > > > Person will not> > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of > > > > eyesight, Cross> > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > dear Taarun and all members> > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system> > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > 1. a system where

Hindu traditional system is blended with> > some> > > > western> > > > > > principles-> > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > benefic/malefis and> > > > > > the timing of events -> > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not> > chnaged> > > > in the KP> > > > > > system.> > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -> but> > > > littele> > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at the > > > > results-> > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in KP> > > > system -> > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is

> > ignored.> > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,> > > > shodasavarga,> > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,> > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's> own> > > > merits /> > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different> > parts> > > > of the> > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart> depends> > on> > > > the nature> > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer- > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets are> > > > grouped in a> > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava

sandhi / rasi sandhi etc., -> > > > because the KP > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited - its> > sign> > > > lord / star> > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span of> 30> > > > degrees in> > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute> > study> > > > they go to> > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the> > > > priniciples of that> > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.> > > > > > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading charts> > in KP> > > >

system -> > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules> can> > be> > > > formed -> > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -> > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA IN> > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -> > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.> > > > > > rao chitturu.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ * wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > helllo members,> > > > > >> > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in > > > > discussion> > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon

candidate.> > > > > >> > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i> know > > > > that bphs is> > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology so> i> > m> > > > including> > > > > > that thing.> > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related to> > > > blood.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > > tarun > > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page> > > > > >> < http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>> >

> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > - Visit your> > > > group ""> > > > > > on the web.> > > > > > -

August 29, 2005

Dear Sri Raichur,

Thank you. Could you kindly post it in the file section because it

is not possible to open-

Attachment(not stored)

250782.ZIP

Type:

application/x-zip-compressed

Thanks and highest regards,

Tin Win

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear TIN WIN and members

>

> I have analysed the chart of the girl born on 25 july 1982. using

the 4 step method.

>

> The chart is North Stle,used in in parts of North India. This I

find more easy to check up

>

> conjunctions, borderline of planets etc.

>

> I have tried to give reasons for my conclusions, and hope there

are no mistakes. I am still

>

> a student of the 4 step method.

>

> I have attached the Zip file. Please open it to get the TXT file.

Best read with NEW Corierr

>

> Font size 10

>

> >

> > , " tw853 " wrote:

> > > Dear Punit ji,

> > >

> > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting

for

> > > our practical study.

> > >

> > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your

> humble " only

> > a

> > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give

example

> > for

> > > others.

> > >

> > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little

> > more

> > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by

> > > Satish.

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > -- In , Punit Pandey

>

> wrote:

> > > > Tw ji,

> > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my

> > > understanding

> > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and

> financial

> > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy

> > > happy married

> > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as

follows,

> > > just to

> > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.

> > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the

theft

> or

> > > sudden

> > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this

> year's

> > > chart.

> > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her mind

our

> > > unforeseen

> > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.

> > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Punit,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind

> enough

> > to

> > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the

> combination

> > of

> > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be

able

> to

> > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule

> > whatsoever

> > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it

may

> be

> > a

> > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari

> > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his

bride

> > > with

> > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho

got

> > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful

sister

> > > thanks

> > > > > to her arrangement.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > , Punit Pandey

>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -

> > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse

> > > (Punit:

> > > > > native

> > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something

> else) /

> > > > > damaged

> > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/

> poison in

> > > > > milk. If one

> > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > damaged.

> > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act

like

> an

> > > > > artificial

> > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon

> effect

> > is

> > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves,

> Saturn's

> > > > > effect is

> > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves,

> Saturn's

> > > > > effect goes.

> > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be

> > decided

> > > by

> > > > > the shape

> > > > > > of the eye.

> > > > > > In case of Benefic combination -

> > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with

them,

> > > Moon-

> > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.

> > > > > > In case of Malefic combination -

> > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be

> > enjoyed

> > > > > by his

> > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and

> depression.

> > > > > Person will not

> > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss

of

> > > > > eyesight, Cross

> > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members

> > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system

> > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended

> with

> > > some

> > > > > western

> > > > > > > principles-

> > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results -

> > > > > benefic/malefis and

> > > > > > > the timing of events -

> > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not

> > > chnaged

> > > > > in the KP

> > > > > > > system.

> > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do

confuse -

> > but

> > > > > littele

> > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive

at

> the

> > > > > results-

> > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best

in

> KP

> > > > > system -

> > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system

is

> > > ignored.

> > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,

> > > > > shodasavarga,

> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,

> > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc.,

> > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has

it's

> > own

> > > > > merits /

> > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and

different

> > > parts

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart

> > depends

> > > on

> > > > > the nature

> > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the

Astrologer-

> > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where

planets

> are

> > > > > grouped in a

> > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi

> etc., -

> > > > > because the KP

> > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited -

> its

> > > sign

> > > > > lord / star

> > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a

span

> of

> > 30

> > > > > degrees in

> > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for

minute

> > > study

> > > > > they go to

> > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the

> > > > > priniciples of that

> > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.

> > > > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading

> charts

> > > in KP

> > > > > system -

> > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward

rules

> > can

> > > be

> > > > > formed -

> > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -

> > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI

TATWA

> IN

> > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -

> > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.

> > > > > > > rao chitturu.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ * wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > helllo members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in

> > > > > discussion

> > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS,

i

> > know

> > > > > that bphs is

> > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian

astrology

> so

> > i

> > > m

> > > > > including

> > > > > > > that thing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease

> > > > > blood.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tarun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > > > > > >

> > < http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Visit your

> > > > > group " <

> "

> > > > > > > on the web.

> > > > > > > -

August 29, 2005

Dear Sri Raichur,

I got it thanks to Bala Sosale.

Highest regards,

Tin Win

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> Dear Sri Raichur,

>

> Thank you. Could you kindly post it in the file section because

it

> is not possible to open-

>

> Attachment(not stored)

> 250782.ZIP

> Type:

> application/x-zip-compressed

>

> Thanks and highest regards,

>

> Tin Win

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear TIN WIN and members

> >

> > I have analysed the chart of the girl born on 25 july 1982.

using

> the 4 step method.

> >

> > The chart is North Stle,used in in parts of North India. This I

> find more easy to check up

> >

> > conjunctions, borderline of planets etc.

> >

> > I have tried to give reasons for my conclusions, and hope there

> are no mistakes. I am still

> >

> > a student of the 4 step method.

> >

> > I have attached the Zip file. Please open it to get the TXT

file.

> Best read with NEW Corierr

> >

> > Font size 10

> >

> > >

> > > , " tw853 " wrote:

> > > > Dear Punit ji,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting

> for

> > > > our practical study.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your

> > humble " only

> > > a

> > > > learner " , like Sri Raichur saying " intermediate " to give

> example

> > > for

> > > > others.

> > > >

> > > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a

little

> > > more

> > > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned

by

> > > > Satish.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > -- In , Punit Pandey

> >

> > wrote:

> > > > > Tw ji,

> > > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to

my

> > > > understanding

> > > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and

> > financial

> > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not

enjoy

> > > > happy married

> > > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as

> follows,

> > > > just to

> > > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon -

> > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.

> > > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the

> theft

> > or

> > > > sudden

> > > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this

> > year's

> > > > chart.

> > > > > 3. This combination can also cause general fear in her

mind

> our

> > > > unforeseen

> > > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.

> > > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required.

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Punit,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind

> > enough

> > > to

> > > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the

> > combination

> > > of

> > > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be

> able

> > to

> > > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over rule

> > > whatsoever

> > > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it

> may

> > be

> > > a

> > > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in

Vaikari

> > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his

> bride

> > > > with

> > > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with

Punarpho

> got

> > > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful

> sister

> > > > thanks

> > > > > > to her arrangement.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Punit Pandey

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Friends,

> > > > > > > Here is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -

> > > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind

horse

> > > > (Punit:

> > > > > > native

> > > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something

> > else) /

> > > > > > damaged

> > > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/

> > poison in

> > > > > > milk. If one

> > > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of

both

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > damaged.

> > > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act

> like

> > an

> > > > > > artificial

> > > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon

> > effect

> > > is

> > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves,

> > Saturn's

> > > > > > effect is

> > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves,

> > Saturn's

> > > > > > effect goes.

> > > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be

> > > decided

> > > > by

> > > > > > the shape

> > > > > > > of the eye.

> > > > > > > In case of Benefic combination -

> > > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with

> them,

> > > > Moon-

> > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.

> > > > > > > In case of Malefic combination -

> > > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be

> > > enjoyed

> > > > > > by his

> > > > > > > wife, her relatives and his friends. Sadness and

> > depression.

> > > > > > Person will not

> > > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy,

loss

> of

> > > > > > eyesight, Cross

> > > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members

> > > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP

system

> > > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as -

> > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is

blended

> > with

> > > > some

> > > > > > western

> > > > > > > > principles-

> > > > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results -

> > > > > > benefic/malefis and

> > > > > > > > the timing of events -

> > > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has

not

> > > > chnaged

> > > > > > in the KP

> > > > > > > > system.

> > > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do

> confuse -

> > > but

> > > > > > littele

> > > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive

> at

> > the

> > > > > > results-

> > > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best

> in

> > KP

> > > > > > system -

> > > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system

> is

> > > > ignored.

> > > > > > > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,

> > > > > > shodasavarga,

> > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,

> > > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc.,

> > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has

> it's

> > > own

> > > > > > merits /

> > > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and

> different

> > > > parts

> > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart

> > > depends

> > > > on

> > > > > > the nature

> > > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the

> Astrologer-

> > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where

> planets

> > are

> > > > > > grouped in a

> > > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi

> > etc., -

> > > > > > because the KP

> > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is

posited -

>

> > its

> > > > sign

> > > > > > lord / star

> > > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a

> span

> > of

> > > 30

> > > > > > degrees in

> > > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for

> minute

> > > > study

> > > > > > they go to

> > > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system -

> > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all

the

> > > > > > priniciples of that

> > > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.

> > > > > > > > My idea is to tell ---

> > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading

> > charts

> > > > in KP

> > > > > > system -

> > > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward

> rules

> > > can

> > > > be

> > > > > > formed -

> > > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -

> > > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI

> TATWA

> > IN

> > > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS

> > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -

> > > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.

> > > > > > > > rao chitturu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ * wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > helllo members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part

in

> > > > > > discussion

> > > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per

BPHS,

> i

> > > know

> > > > > > that bphs is

> > > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian

> astrology

> > so

> > > i

> > > > m

> > > > > > including

> > > > > > > > that thing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease

> related

> > to

> > > > > > blood.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > > > > > > >

> > > < http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - Visit your

> > > > > > group " <

> > "

> > > > > > > > on the web.

> > > > > > > > -

August 30, 2005

a file 250782.doc has been uploaded in the file section .

good lucktw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Sri Raichur,Thank you. Could you kindly post it in the file section because it is not possible to open- Attachment(not stored) 250782.ZIP Type: application/x-zip-compressed Thanks and highest regards,Tin Win , anant raichur wrote:> Dear TIN WIN and members> > I have analysed the chart of the girl born on 25 july 1982. using the 4 step method. > > The chart is North Stle,used in in parts of North India. This I find more easy to check up> > conjunctions, borderline of planets etc. > > I have tried to give reasons for my conclusions, and hope there are no mistakes. I am still> > a student of the 4 step method.> > I have attached the Zip file. Please open it

to get the TXT file. Best read with NEW Corierr> > Font size 10> > > > > > , "tw853" wrote:> > > Dear Punit ji,> > >> > > 1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge which is interesting for> > > our practical study.> > >> > > 2. Of course, it can not be taken literally for your > humble "only> > a> > > learner", like Sri Raichur saying "intermediate" to give example> > for> > > others.> > >> > > 3. It will be highly appreciated if you could tell us a little > > more> > > about the timing of marriage of that female native mentioned by> > > Satish.> > >> > > Thanks and regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> >

> -- In , Punit Pandey > > wrote:> > > > Tw ji,> > > > I am no Lal Kitab expert but only a learner. According to my> > > understanding> > > > of LK, the chart is not a good chart from marriage and > financial > > > > perspective. The female mentioned by Satish ji will not enjoy> > > happy married> > > > life; remedies may help. Few other observations are as follows,> > > just to> > > > ascertain the nature of Saturn and Moon - > > > > 1. The girl may be having some problem related to eyesight.> > > > 2. When the girl was 12, the family would have faced the theft > or> > > sudden> > > > loss of money. The same possibility is there too in this > year's > > > chart.> > > > 3. This combination

can also cause general fear in her mind our> > > unforeseen> > > > troubles which destroys her sleep and peace of mind.> > > > Satish ji, your feedback will be required. > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > > On 8/28/05, tw853 wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Punit,> > > > >> > > > > 1. As I know you're Lal Kitab expert, could you be kind > enough > > to> > > > > explain how Lal Kitab's indication will be for the > combination> > of> > > > > Moon & Saturn in the girl's chart given by Satish to be able > to> > > > > compare with KP analysis. Her chart is in Msg#5941. > > > > >> > > > > 2. In KP generally Punarpho does not mean to over

rule> > whatsoever> > > > > is to be given by constellation and sublord rules but it may > be> > a> > > > > warning sign of dealy or troubles. For example, in Vaikari > > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000, p 38, run away of his bride> > > with> > > > > her lover at the first night but the native with Punarpho got> > > > > married next day with her younger and more beautiful sister > > > thanks> > > > > to her arrangement.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > >> > > > > tw> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , Punit Pandey > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Friends,> > > > > > Here

is what Lal Kitab says about the yoga -> > > > > > Conjoined together Moon and Saturn is like a blind horse > > > (Punit:> > > > > native> > > > > > wants to do something and end up with doing something > else) /> > > > > damaged> > > > > > floating house/ self inflicting weapon/ bloody well/ > poison in > > > > > milk. If one> > > > > > is benefic, the other one will be malefic. Effect of both> > will> > > be> > > > > damaged.> > > > > > Both will be together till 44 years of of age and act like > an > > > > > artificial> > > > > > debilitated Ketu. As Saturn effect is afflicted, Moon > effect> > is> > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon

improves, > Saturn's> > > > > effect is > > > > > > correspondingly debilitated by 1/3. As Moon improves, > Saturn's> > > > > effect goes.> > > > > > Out of the two planets, witch is more powerful will be> > decided> > > by> > > > > the shape> > > > > > of the eye.> > > > > > In case of Benefic combination -> > > > > > If there is some other even / equivalent planet with them,> > > Moon-> > > > > Saturn > > > > > > combination will give wealth. Saturn will give help.> > > > > > In case of Malefic combination -> > > > > > Philandering will cause destruction. His wealth will be> > enjoyed > > > > > by his> > > > > > wife, her

relatives and his friends. Sadness and > depression.> > > > > Person will not> > > > > > be able to enjoy his own earnings. Sudden tragedy, loss of > > > > > eyesight, Cross> > > > > > eyed, single eyed, heart problems.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > On 8/25/05, rao chitturu < csr162002> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear Taarun and all members> > > > > > > it is good to refer BPHS -even while reading KP system> > > > > > > Kp system to be understood as - > > > > > > > 1. a system where Hindu traditional system is blended > with> > > some> > > > > western> > > > > > > principles->

> > > > > > 2. it is an easy way to arrive at the bhava results - > > > > > benefic/malefis and> > > > > > > the timing of events -> > > > > > > 3. the rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhaava tatwa has not> > > chnaged> > > > > in the KP> > > > > > > system.> > > > > > > 4. use of sub-lords for bhavas and planets - do confuse -> > but> > > > > littele> > > > > > > attention and with keen senses one can easily arrive at > the > > > > > results-> > > > > > > 5. One who is good in traditional system can do best in > KP> > > > > system -> > > > > > > 6. There is no KP system if Hindu traditional system is > > > ignored.> > > >

> > > 7. KP helps to avoid the calculation of Shadbalas ,> > > > > shodasavarga,> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga etc.,> > > > > > > and the blind faith of exaltations, yogas etc., > > > > > > > 8. It is one of the proved systems - each system has it's> > own> > > > > merits /> > > > > > > demerits - and developed in different times and different> > > parts> > > > > of the> > > > > > > world. Suitability of a system to a particular chart> > depends> > > on> > > > > the nature> > > > > > > of the chart - besides the experience of the Astrologer- > > > > > > > for exampe - KP system can best be applied where planets > are> > > > > grouped in

a> > > > > > > bhava - or planets are in bhava sandhi / rasi sandhi > etc., -> > > > > because the KP > > > > > > > system consider the degre where the planet is posited -> its> > > sign> > > > > lord / star> > > > > > > lord / sub-lord - where as in traditional system a span > of> > 30> > > > > degrees in> > > > > > > rasi / 3deg.20mts in navamsa etc., are taken - for minute> > > study> > > > > they go to> > > > > > > shodasavargas in tradit5ional system - > > > > > > > 9. If a chart is studutied in one system apply all the> > > > > priniciples of that> > > > > > > system meticulously and do not mix different systems.> > > > >

> > My idea is to tell --- > > > > > > > that BPHS - rules can also be applied while reading > charts> > > in KP> > > > > system -> > > > > > > but apply as per the context - no straight forward rules> > can> > > be> > > > > formed -> > > > > > > each chart to be studied independently -> > > > > > > WHAT IF GIVEN ABOUT GRAHA TATWA/BHAVA TATWA / RASI TATWA > IN> > > > > OTHER SYSTEMS > > > > > > > CAN AS WELL BE ADOPTED IN kp SYSTEM -> > > > > > > tHESE ARE MY VIEWS AND EXPERIENSES.> > > > > > > rao chitturu.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *~~Tarun~~ * wrote:> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > helllo members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > due to internet trouble i was not able to take part in > > > > > discussion> > > > > > > ...because i m too a saturn+moon candidate.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > saturn+ moon creates a raj yoga specified as per BPHS, i> > know > > > > > that bphs is> > > > > > > not considered in KP but its a part of indian astrology > so> > i> > > m> > > > > including> > > > > > > that thing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the saturn+ moon person is effected with disease related > to> > > > > blood.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

Thanks> > > > > > >> > > > > > > tarun > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page> > > > > > >> > < http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > - Visit your> > > > > group "<

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August 30, 2005

Dear Mr,Raichur,

Am sending alongwith the corrected BC and my analysis...for your comments pl.

With highest regards,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: