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Mumbai-Cehmbur Lat 19n04 long 72e54

 

good luckrsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote:

Dear Tw,The girl was born in Chembur Mumbai,Mr Raichur can provide you the coordinates.Rgds,Satish-- In , anant raichur wrote:> Dear List> KP requires Birth details as accurately as is possible. > > Mumbai is such a big city, especially in NS direction, so Latitude changes from one > > suburb to another. > > The Lat and Long given by satish is For Coloba Observatory. It is good enough for Traditinal> > Horoscope. > > Similar is the Case for Kolkatta, Chenne, and Delhi. The lat long of suburbs in these cities can > > be found if requred.> > good luck> > > rsatish1942 wrote:> > Dear Tw,> > Birth

details as requested.25-07-1982 time 12-07p.m.place Mumbai > 18N58,72e50.Please predict also the probable date of marriage.Her > father just rang me up.> > Thanks,> > Satish> > > > > , "tw853" wrote:> > Dear Satish,> > > > 1. It's a pleasure to learn that Saturn has given you what has to > > give as mentioned by KSK & KPs but may be with a delay or some > > problems or not up to the level of expectation as per nature of > > Saturn (especally if there is PP). > > > > 2. Example charts already studied have been provided to look at > for > > those KP scholars young and old and to do further study quoting a > > valuable statement of our Guruji KSK,> > > > "My friends, we have come upto this- you should continue the > > research and

you may reach to further truth."> > > > 3. As you know, without proof of pudding there is nothing to > eat. > > > > 4. If the standard birth details are provided, the marriage issue > > of Tula rising lady may be reviewed by some members of our group. > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > , "rsatish1942" > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > > The concept of planetary combinations with Moon and their > > > effects,whether the planets are Sun,Saturn,Rahuetc are well > > > documented in various astrology books.Since Moon is the karaka > for > > > the mind,the affliction to the mind of an individual,occurs in > > > various modes,from explosive anger to depressive or negative > state >

> > of mind.The consequences of such negativeness,is particularly > seen > > > in Saturn-Moon combination.These combinations can be on stellar > > > level,or conjunctions or even aspects.All these are a part of KP > > > analyses.> > > What is interesting in the conjunction of Saturn -Moon is the > > > separatitive aspect where the faster moving planetMoon is ahead > of > > > the slow planet Saturn,compared to the Moon lagging behind > forming > > > applying/positive aspect.It has been stated the applying aspect > > > gives positive energy to Saturn to do good. I do not have > > documented > > > proof to provide.I was curious to study the effects of Saturn in > > my > > > life having enjoyed 19years of the Saturn dasa which ended a > year > > > ago.My Saturn had a near

trine aspect with Moon,supported by > > > Jupiter also having also a near trine aspect with Moon.I am a > > > Vrishaba Lagna person.> > > > > > I would encourage our young friends who examine plenty of > > > horoscopes to single out horoscopes with such combination for > > > study.I have one such horoscope of young lady Tula Lagna with > > Moon-> > > Saturn(applying) in 12th ,issue under consideration is > > > marriage.present age 23 yrs.> > > > > > With Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "tw853"

wrote:> > > > Dear Udupa,> > > > > > > > 1. Already plenty examples for both of you to study before > > giving > > > > any specific view meaningfully: a/ 34 example charts in > Vaikari > > > > Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000 (15 charts cancelled > according > > > to > > > > Dr. Kar's theory of PP Cancellation); b/ KP Reader VI, 1978 > > page > > > > 179; c/ J. Rama Krishna Rao, KP & Astrology Year Book (KPYB)> 1995 > > > > page 52-53; d/ Dr. Kar, KPYB 1996 page 69-72; e/ Prof. K. > > > > Balachandran, KPYB 2003 page 80-83; f/ Our Shri A. R. > > Raichur,KPYB > > > > 1997 page 67-68; g/ C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer (calling PP Dosha), > KPYB > > > > 2005, page 58-62.> > > > > > > > 2. Simply if doing good job, will

be called good boy; if bad > > job, > > > > bad boy; no need a formular to be called Yoga or Dosha, only > > > > evidencee is needed. Name is nothing and only effect is > supreme.> > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , AH Udupa > wrote:> > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > The punarpoo has been talked about, has been defined and > > has > > > > been a subject that has been written about quite a lot. > Probably > > > > what we should look at is whether we should go for such a > > formaula > > > > (call it Yoga or Dosha), when we have such a strong tool in > the > > > > methodology of stellar astrology rendered by Shri Guruji KSK. > > All > > > > the

effects attributed to Punarpoo - can they not be predicted > > on > > > > the basis of KP system?> > > > > This is a question in my mind. May be Mr. Jagdish also > is > > > > pointing out the same. If we analyse the chart correctly > > accodring > > > > to KP are we not able to predict punarpoo effects correctly? > If > > we > > > > are able to predict effects correctly with stellar principles > we > > > may > > > > ignore YOga, Dosha , its cancellation and such considerations.> > > > > Therefore my suggestion is that those who have data > > > > corresponding to Saturn+Moon combination may try to analyse > > using > > > KP > > > > whether the corresponding effects can be predicted.> > > > > This info can be published in

the forum for the benifit of > > > menbers.> > > > > Udupa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 wrote:> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > 1. Punarpho (PP) is well defined and combination of its > > > > > cancellation is clearly set. (KP Reader IV, 1984, page 74-> 80, > > > KP > > > > > Reader VI, 1978, page 179; Dr. Kar, KP & Astrology Year > Book > > > > (KPYB) > > > > > 1996 page 70, Prof. K. Balachandran, KPYB 2003 page 82, Shri > > > > Raichur > > > > > Msg#5849, Lajmi Msg#5751)> > > > > > > > > > 2. In line with his Retrogression theory (retrograde planet > > is > > > > > defeated by Sun, Kar,

KPYB 1996 page 61; Balachandran, KPYB > > > 2002 > > > > > page 87), Kar's theory of Cancellation of PP is the Sun to > > > > destroy > > > > > the evil effect of PP (Kar, KPYB 1996 page 70) supported by > 3 > > > > > cases: despite PP, a/ getting admitted in Medecine study and > > b/ > > > > > getting more respectable job (both without charts), and c/ > not > > > > > preventing to win lottery of Rs. 500 with a sub-sub horary > > chart > > > > > which can not be studied by original KP.> > > > > > > > > > 3. As a result of well evidenced evil effect of delay and > > > > troubles > > > > > it is also called PP Dosha. (Vaikari Ramamurthy, > > Balachandran) > > > If > > > > > positive

effect of PP is demonstrated by convincing example > > > > charts, > > > > > Dosha may not be used anymore and may be changed to Yoga but > > not > > > > by > > > > > words, only by action. > > > > > > > > > > 4. The name is not so important and the real issue is to > > study > > > > > further whether PP is really cancelled by Kar's combination > > > > because > > > > > 15 charts from Vaikari Ramamurthy: Punarphoo, 1999-2000 > given > > > > below > > > > > are affected by PP Dosha even though PP is cancelled by > Kar's > > > > > combination. Moreover, Prof. Rajendra Kumar shares his > > > experience > > > > > in his article "Inference from a Honest Retrospection", KPYB > > >

2005 > > > > > page 52 that Retrogression theory is not working. Shri > > Raichur > > > > > also shares his experience of some obstacles/problems in the > > > > > marriage caused by PP. Over 60 out of 100 charts with more > > than > > > > one > > > > > marriage have bee found with PP in my study of KP > > multimarriage > > > > > rule. A Vedic astrologer is saying with supportive example > > > charts > > > > > that combination of Mon and Saturn related to 6, 8, 12 > houses > > > can > > > > > cause cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) p 14, engagement broken; 2) p 18, not getting a good job; > > 3) > > > p > > > > > 27, not achieving name & fame; 4) p 38, run away

of wife at > > > first > > > > > night; 5) p 51, marriage after cancellation of punarphoo & > > > second > > > > > marriage promised; 6) p 68, extra-marital affairs; 7) p 75, > no > > > > > marriage; 8) p 77, no marriage; 9) p 78, no marriage; 10) p > > 80, > > > > > delay in marriage; 11) p 83, delay in marriage; 12) p 90, > > delay > > > > in > > > > > marriage; 13) p 95, a miserable maritial bliss; 14) p 102, > no > > > > > improvement in life; 15) p 115, delay in prosperity of life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > , Jagadish K > > > > > >

> wrote:> > > > > > Thanks and this suggestion leads us to the pinnacle of > > > > > satisfaction if not success> > > > > > > > > > > > Precisely, this is what has been done atleast in a couple > of > > > > > cases. The result simply follows the main frame KP in terms > of > > > the > > > > > star lord of Saturn. The matters related to the houses > > > signified > > > > by > > > > > the star lord gets activated. The recording includes the > small > > > > patch > > > > > of financial dealings too, since the gentleman involved is a > > > > > businessman. The effect is in total isolation of Saturn > (100% > > > > > disregard of Sat+Moon conjunction) and limited to the > > > >

constellation > > > > > where Saturn is posited. However, the native is not running > > > either > > > > > Saturn or Moon Dasha, but at present running Saturn Bhukthi > in > > > > > Jupiter Dasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > My observation in some horoscopes where the natives are > > > > > contemporaries (who are my close associates) and in > continuous > > > > touch > > > > > (some times on very critical day to day issues, practically > > > > online), > > > > > the cuspal interlinks issue as mentioned in K Baskaran in > his > > > > books > > > > > is noteworthy. For example: eventhough a planet is > signifying > > > any > > > > of > > > > > the undesirable houses

(for the given issue), if that has > any > > > link > > > > > with the 11th cusp (ofcourse if 11th Bhava is good enough) > at > > > > > stellar level or sub lord level or for that matter sub-sub > > lord > > > > > level, the possible negative effects would be reduced. > > Perhaps, > > > I > > > > am > > > > > constrained to understand in the context of one chart where > > the > > > > > sublord of cusps 2, 8, 9 and 11 is the same. I have hardly > > seen > > > > any > > > > > great struggle in his life and on the other hand it is a > case > > > > > of "rags to riches" (in terms of Corporate power and perhaps > > in > > > a > > > > > few weeks, he is going to report to one of the esteemed

> Global > > > > > Company's Chairman). I am yet to assimilate the contents of > K > > > > > Baskaran's books on> > > > > > Cuspal Interlinks - "Principles of Cuspal Interlinks" > > > > > and "Applications of Cuspla Interlinks (Part 1 & Part 2).> > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally, the above native too has Sat 25:05 in Dhanus > > and > > > > > Moon 13:26 in Makara in the same cusp i.e., 1st, but houses > 1 > > & > > > 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > Further, the much discussed Sat+Jupiter cojunction (there > > was > > > a > > > > > discussion a couple of weeks back in the Forum), is very > much > > > > there > > > > > in this case. Sat as above +

Jupiter 18:20 in Dhanus but > 12th > > > > cusp. > > > > > Infact, Jupiter+Saturn conjunction if it takes place in > either > > > > > Dhanus or Meena, Prof.Ramakrishna Bhat calls it as nothing > > short > > > > of > > > > > a Yoga! And ofcourse similar views on Sat+Moon too, as > > discussed.> > > > > > > > > > > > For our research purpose, I do not want to consider either > > > Yogas > > > > > or Doshas, but be guided by the stellar signification, > sublord > > > and > > > > > cuspal interlink, etc. With due deligence and intense > > > application > > > > of > > > > > mind, whether it is Yoga or Dosha, it is sure to be > filtered, > > > but > > > > > not

branded. Obviously, delay,obstacles and other hicups of > > > human > > > > > beings life is sure to come to light in our scanning. This > > > atleast > > > > > prevents creartion of fear psychosis amongst people who > might > > > have > > > > > the so called undesirable conjunctions.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anant raichur wrote:> > > > > > A good suggestion, to observe the changes in routine life, > > > > whenevr > > > > > Transit Moon passes over > > > > > > > > > > > > one,s Natal Saturn. Allow +/- 5 degree for conjunction. > > Keep > > > a > > > >

> Diary.> > > > > > > > > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > > > > > rsatish1942 wrote:> > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > In one of earlier notings, The Saturn-Moon conflict is > > > > > rationalised > > > > > > with the explanation,Saturn is the child of Moon, while > Moon > > > > > > recognises Saturn as its child, conversely, Saturn does > not > > > give > > > > > > Moon the same respect due as a parent, a modern day > > phenomenon.> > > > > > > > > > > > Essentially this combination gives rise to > > conflicts,marriage > > > is > > > > > > just one of the many issues in one's life.In vedic > astrology

> > > we > > > > > take > > > > > > an orb of approx 7 deg, for treating as conjunction, i.e. > > > > > difference > > > > > > between long, between sat and moon.(Orbs of both, add ,÷ > > total > > > > > > by 2)> > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest to those having such a conjunction to > > observe > > > > > > monthly transit of Moon over this are of horoscope and > > > > faithfully > > > > > > record the observations, on physical as well as mental > > > > level.This > > > > > > would be a valuable document. Those having either Sat or > > Moon > > > > dasa> > > > > > would qualify better.> > > > > > As regards its effect on

marriage,delays etc have already > > been > > > > > > mentioned.For fulfillment there are other requirements > like > > > sub > > > > of > > > > > > 7th being significator of either 2 or 7 or 11 > houses.Latest > > is > > > > to > > > > > > consider 5 or 8 houses as well.You can be married by > > > > social/legal > > > > > > norms , the marriage is intact, but one of the partners is > a > > > > cold > > > > > > fish.( Examine 1st house significations).All these means > > > > marriage > > > > > has > > > > > > gone beyond 2,7,11 houses and truly many other houses come > > > into > > > > > > play,which have been ignored or examined in parts .> >

> > > > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Jagadish K > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Mr.L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time and intervention, specifically > > quoting > > > > the > > > > > > article, which has practically given an insight into the > > > issue. > > > > I > > > > > am > > > > > > in full agreement with the contents. I do not think that I > > > have > > > > > > raised any doubt on the article or others exposure, who > were

> > > > kind > > > > > > enough to enlighten me and the Forum.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infact from the day one, I had my personal apprehensions > > > about > > > > > > generalising the conjunction and drawing inferences. You > > have > > > > > > precisely quoted the article and it has proved my point / > > > > > > understanding.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > About my personal exposure / experience, it is genrally > > > > > qualitative > > > > > > in nature as I have no opportunity, as of now, for > > > quantitative > > > > > > exposure. Therefore, my views on the subject conjunction > is > > > > based > > > > > on > > >

> > > my personal experience and not from the books. The > quotation > > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > books have been specifically mentioned.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the chart of a female (for case study) where Moon > > is > > > in > > > > > > capricorn and Sat in cancer, the girl ofcourse is mentally > > > > > retarded > > > > > > (mental age 5 years, physical age 29 years). However, the > > > mental > > > > > > retardation may not be due to only Sat / Moon, > nevertheless > > > the > > > > > > negative contribution of Sat/Moon cannot be ruled out.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For academic interest, if I am permitted to add

here > that > > > > since > > > > > KP > > > > > > System rightly does not recognise Yogas or Avayogas, I do > > not > > > > know > > > > > > whether we could make a list of Doshas, as it will only > lead > > > to > > > > > > confusion than clarity. Further, the basic tenets of KP > for > > > sure > > > > > is > > > > > > on stellar signification, any Dosha will obviously be a > part > > > and > > > > > > parcel of the stellar signification and perhaps show up in > > any > > > > > number > > > > > > of ways viz., star lord, sub-lord, cusps and cuspal > > interlinks > > > > > etc. > > > > > > I am not attempting to

criticise anybody or any book and I > > am > > > > > > honestly trying to absorb the System. It is quite probable > > > that > > > > > > frequent encounter by the learned Astrologers with similar > > > > > > circumstances in good number of charts coming up, the > > analysis > > > > > could > > > > > > be narrowed down and may be in the process of thought and > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > transfer would have ended up in terming it a Dosha. The > > > attempt > > > > > must > > > > > > have been as an early warning mechanisim and nothing else.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I have encountered funny situations with our > > > Vedic > > > > >

> stalwarts, with no offense to them, classifying birth on > > > > Amavasya, > > > > > > Sarpa Dosha, Kala Sarpa Dosha, Sade Sathi (in transit) > etc., > > > > apart > > > > > > from reading the horoscope on mere placement of planets in > > > > various > > > > > > favourable and unfavourable signs, including exaltation > and > > > > > > debilitation etc. Whereas I do understand that the planets > > > have > > > > to > > > > > > show up their inherent qualities and characteristics, > along > > > with > > > > a > > > > > > host of other astrological parameters. So much so that I > > have > > > > > > personal aversion to both Yogas and Doshas and therefore I > > > took

> > > > > > solace in KP System.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surely, I will keep track of the subject issue and > update > > > the > > > > > Forum > > > > > > specifically and share the points with all the mebers from > > the > > > > > point > > > > > > of view of research. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > K Jagadish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lajmi wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Jagadish K,> > > > > > > I have quoted from a research article,by > > > > > > very experienced,respected and famous researcher...whether > > to > > >

> > agree > > > > > > to his opinion,or not,is entirely your prerogative,but you > > > could > > > > > have > > > > > > perhaps done better to cite some examples...from your own > > > > > > experiences,for the benefit of us all...> > > > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jagadish K wrote:> > > > > > > It is not possible comment on marriage just on the basis > > of > > > > > > Sat+Moon conjunction. Birth chart as per KP is essential > to > > > draw > > > > > any > > > > > > conclusion.

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Dear List Members

 

I get ASC as Libra 2-12-47- : Moon is same Virgo 8-43-26 with lat 19,03 and long 72e54

rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote:

Dear friends,I had prepared the chart of the young lady,using Mr Raichur's software.DOB 25-7-1982,time 12-17p.m.(noon),Mumbai 18-58/72-50. the printout shows Sid time 7-48-58,ayanamsa 23-31-24.With the software Asc is Tula 2-9-59,Moon8-43-26.dasa bal sun 0-209 days,ends on19-2-83.I rechecked now ,the girl was born at Chembur, Mumbai.Regards,Satish.Jagannath Hora gives same lagna , "Kanak Bosmia" wrote:>

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Dear Sri Raichur,

 

1. Thank you. The real reason is giving TOB as " 12:07 pm " in

Msg#5912 not " 12:17 " that now we are talking. Out of so many

localities of Mumbai shown by KPAstro 2.1, for Mumbai-CHEMBUR lat

19N03 and long 72E53, almost the same as given in Msg#5936 Mumbai-

Cehmbur Lat 19n04 long 72e54 and in Msg#5937 lat 19,03 and long

72e54.

 

2. For lat 19,03 and long 72e54 in Msg#5937, KPAstro 2.1 gives Asc

Li 02:11:21 & Moon, and Jagannatha Hora 7.02 for same NKPA 23-31-24

& Sid Time 07-49-13 Asc Li 02-11-21 & Moon Vi 08-44-44, not

significant differences with yours ASC as Libra 2-12-47- : Moon is

same Virgo 8-43-26 with lat 19,03 and long 72e54 in Msg#5937.

 

3. We have to judge the adjusted chart with a new 7CSL of Venus not

Saturn before.

 

Thanks and highest regards,

 

Tin Win

 

 

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear List Members

>

> I get ASC as Libra 2-12-47- : Moon is same Virgo 8-43-26 with lat

19,03 and long 72e54

>

>

> rsatish1942 <rsatish1942> wrote:

> Dear friends,

>

> I had prepared the chart of the young lady,using Mr Raichur's

> software.DOB 25-7-1982,time 12-17p.m.(noon),Mumbai 18-58/72-50.

the

> printout shows Sid time 7-48-58,ayanamsa 23-31-24.

>

> With the software Asc is Tula 2-9-59,Moon8-43-26.dasa bal sun 0-

209

> days,ends on19-2-83.

> I rechecked now ,the girl was born at Chembur, Mumbai.

>

> Regards,

>

> Satish.

>

> Jagannath Hora gives same lagna

>

>

> , " Kanak Bosmia "

> wrote:

> >

>

 

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Dear Kanak,

 

Thank you for sharing your expereience. Let us see the adjusted chart

again.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

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