Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in this forum. And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to how to predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or not? First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many things, therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other than marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things on the basis of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can study 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. Regards, Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Dear Parag, 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine 2nd and so on cusps. The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. Inder , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g> wrote: > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in this forum. > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to how to > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or not? > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many things, > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other than > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things on the basis > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can study 2nd > house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. > Regards, > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Dear Mr.Parag, Thanks for your intervention. The discussion earlier was centered around the quality of relationship in the event of second or subsequent marriage rather than how to predict the second marriage. Perhaps the 7th Cusp s/l itself indicates the events in store, apart from the 2nd cusp sublord, for second marriage, which is adequately covered in the 4th Reader. I agree with you that the scope of any Bhava s/l covers multiple issues and multiple events of the same issue, like second marriage, purchase and sale of properties etc. The deal / relationship being favourable or unfavourable obviously depends upon the then DBAS and aspects in transit. Regards, K Jagadish parag_m_g <parag_m_g wrote: Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in this forum. And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to how to predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or not? First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many things, therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other than marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things on the basis of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can study 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. Regards, Parag. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Dear Parag, Inder, Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can study 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK or KP? Regards, tw , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Parag, > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd marriage and > so on.. > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine 2nd and > so on cusps. > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > Inder > > > , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g> > wrote: > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in this > forum. > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to how to > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or not? > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many > things, > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other than > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things on the > basis > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can study > 2nd > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. > > Regards, > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Dear TW, Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh KSK in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. Inder , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear Parag, Inder, > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can study > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK or KP? > > Regards, > > tw > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > wrote: > > Dear Parag, > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd marriage > and > > so on.. > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine 2nd > and > > so on cusps. > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > Inder > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g> > > wrote: > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in this > > forum. > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to how > to > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or not? > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many > > things, > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other than > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things on > the > > basis > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can > study > > 2nd > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. > > > Regards, > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Dear Inder, Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , please specific and reliable? Regards, tw , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear TW, > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh KSK > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. > Inder > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can study > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK or > KP? > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > > wrote: > > > Dear Parag, > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd marriage > > and > > > so on.. > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine 2nd > > and > > > so on cusps. > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g> > > > wrote: > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in > this > > > forum. > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to > how > > to > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or > not? > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many > > > things, > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other than > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things on > > the > > > basis > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can > > study > > > 2nd > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. > > > > Regards, > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Dear Parag, Inder, 1. Since there is no response for the creditable authority/reference/rationale, let me clear the confusion caused by your statements of " one can study 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter " , and " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are neither Traditional nor KSK/KP. 2. Regarding more than one marriage, the houses to refer to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner and the state of married life (KSK) " are the " 8th house from the most recent spouse " (The 8th from any house signifies the " death " of matters in the original house.); for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th, i.e. 2nd house; 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th marriage 4th house, 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc. Regards, tw P.S. TRADITIONAL Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001, p 107 Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, p 291 KSK KP Reader II, 1983, p 189 KP Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book, 2002, p 60 , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear Inder, > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , please > specific and reliable? > > Regards, > > tw > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > wrote: > > Dear TW, > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh KSK > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. > > Inder > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can > study > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK or > > KP? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd > marriage > > > and > > > > so on.. > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine > 2nd > > > and > > > > so on cusps. > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > <parag_m_g> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in > > this > > > > forum. > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to > > how > > > to > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or > > not? > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many > > > > things, > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other > than > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things > on > > > the > > > > basis > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can > > > study > > > > 2nd > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 My dear TW, 7th house for marriage and 2nd house for second marriage and so on is perhaps elementary astrology. Otherwise in your opinion which house is for marriage. Is it 6th or 8th etc? It appears that you are so obssessed with references page numbers and edition numbers that you are searching everything in reference to that only. BTW, Sh Khullar and Sh Baskaran in cuspal interlinks theory are advocating 7th for first marriage, 9th house for 2nd marriage and 11th for 3rd marriage. It is interesting. Again page no or book no or addition no etc I may not be able to quote please. Inder , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear Inder, > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , please > specific and reliable? > > Regards, > > tw > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > wrote: > > Dear TW, > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh KSK > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. > > Inder > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can > study > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK or > > KP? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd > marriage > > > and > > > > so on.. > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine > 2nd > > > and > > > > so on cusps. > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > <parag_m_g> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in > > this > > > > forum. > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as to > > how > > > to > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful or > > not? > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so many > > > > things, > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other > than > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things > on > > > the > > > > basis > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one can > > > study > > > > 2nd > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life thereafter. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Dear Inder, >>>2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd marriage >>>and so on.. 1. After elementry, your " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " is completely contradictory with TRADITONAL/KSK/KP and misleading for KP learners. >>Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh > KSK > > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. 2. Without being able to give specific references or having standard credits of posting/publishing astrological articles/books and dipolma or degree in astrlogy how can we rely on what you're saying is TRADITONAL/KSK/KP? In fact, it isn't. 3. Let me remind you once again not to mention something as per Guruji KSK if you can't give even reference page and volume of his KP Readers. >BTW, Sh Khullar and Sh Baskaran in cuspal interlinks theory are > advocating 7th for first marriage, 9th house for 2nd marriage and > 11th for 3rd marriage. It is interesting. Again page no or book no > or addition no etc I may not be able to quote please. 4. Once again, how can you use their names without being able to give references? It's a misuse of their names. One thing is sure that Baskaran doesn't in his three books in English. 5. I don't have intention to waste time of mine and yours by discussing with you. What I feel obliged to do for the lovely spirit of Gurji KSK is to remind KP learners that what you're saying without any reference is unreliable and may be misleading. Regards, tw , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > My dear TW, > 7th house for marriage and 2nd house for second marriage and so on > is perhaps elementary astrology. > Otherwise in your opinion which house is for marriage. Is it 6th or > 8th etc? It appears that you are so obssessed with references page > numbers and edition numbers that you are searching everything in > reference to that only. > > BTW, Sh Khullar and Sh Baskaran in cuspal interlinks theory are > advocating 7th for first marriage, 9th house for 2nd marriage and > 11th for 3rd marriage. It is interesting. Again page no or book no > or addition no etc I may not be able to quote please. > Inder > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Inder, > > > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , please > > specific and reliable? > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > > wrote: > > > Dear TW, > > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh > KSK > > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. > > > Inder > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can > > study > > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK > or > > > KP? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " > <indervohra2001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd > > marriage > > > > and > > > > > so on.. > > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine > > 2nd > > > > and > > > > > so on cusps. > > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > > <parag_m_g> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in > > > this > > > > > forum. > > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as > to > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful > or > > > not? > > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so > many > > > > > things, > > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other > > than > > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things > > on > > > > the > > > > > basis > > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one > can > > > > study > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life > thereafter. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 I think you are right. Thats what I wanted to convey. In fact thats what many KP astrologers(known to me) are pracising for last 30 years. They(those with whom I have come across) examine 2nd,9th house, because they mustnot have came across querrists asking about subsequent(more than 3) marriages, I suppose. I think even KP advocated the same thing. And again, besides several other factors, one can have a look at Mahadasha,Antardasha etc. If at the time(and thereafter) of 2nd/3rd marriage he is running fruitful/good dashas, he can have happy married life. Parag. , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear Parag, Inder, > > 1. Since there is no response for the creditable > authority/reference/rationale, let me clear the confusion caused by > your statements of " one can study 2nd house for any subsequent > marriages & married life thereafter " , and " 8th 3rd marriage and so > on.. " which are neither Traditional nor KSK/KP. > > 2. Regarding more than one marriage, the houses to refer > to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner and the > state of married life (KSK) " are the " 8th house from the most recent > spouse " (The 8th from any house signifies the " death " of matters in > the original house.); for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th, i.e. 2nd house; > 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th marriage 4th house, > 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc. > > > > Regards, > > tw > > > P.S. > > TRADITIONAL > Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001, p 107 > Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, p 291 > > KSK > KP Reader II, 1983, p 189 > > KP > Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book, > 2002, p 60 > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Inder, > > > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , please > > specific and reliable? > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > > wrote: > > > Dear TW, > > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh > KSK > > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books pl. > > > Inder > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can > > study > > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK > or > > > KP? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " > <indervohra2001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd > > marriage > > > > and > > > > > so on.. > > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine > > 2nd > > > > and > > > > > so on cusps. > > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > > <parag_m_g> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage in > > > this > > > > > forum. > > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as > to > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful > or > > > not? > > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so > many > > > > > things, > > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other > > than > > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such things > > on > > > > the > > > > > basis > > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one > can > > > > study > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life > thereafter. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 It's Kalidasa's, KSK's with a solid rationale and followed by Sanjay Rath & KP astrologers to refer to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner and the state of married life (KSK) " for the charts like Lary King with 7 marriages, Elizabeth Taylor 8, Zsa Zsa Gabor 9 etc. tw , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g> wrote: > I think you are right. Thats what I wanted to convey. In fact thats > what many KP astrologers(known to me) are pracising for last 30 > years. > They(those with whom I have come across) examine 2nd,9th house, > because they mustnot have came across querrists asking about > subsequent(more than 3) marriages, I suppose. I think even KP > advocated the same thing. > And again, besides several other factors, one can have a look at > Mahadasha,Antardasha etc. If at the time(and thereafter) of 2nd/3rd > marriage he is running fruitful/good dashas, he can have happy > married life. > Parag. > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > 1. Since there is no response for the creditable > > authority/reference/rationale, let me clear the confusion caused by > > your statements of " one can study 2nd house for any subsequent > > marriages & married life thereafter " , and " 8th 3rd marriage and so > > on.. " which are neither Traditional nor KSK/KP. > > > > 2. Regarding more than one marriage, the houses to refer > > to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner and the > > state of married life (KSK) " are the " 8th house from the most > recent > > spouse " (The 8th from any house signifies the " death " of matters in > > the original house.); for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th, i.e. 2nd > house; > > 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th marriage 4th house, > > 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > P.S. > > > > TRADITIONAL > > Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001, p > 107 > > Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, p 291 > > > > KSK > > KP Reader II, 1983, p 189 > > > > KP > > Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book, > > 2002, p 60 > > > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , please > > > specific and reliable? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear TW, > > > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by Sh > > KSK > > > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books > pl. > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one can > > > study > > > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not KSK > > or > > > > KP? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " > > <indervohra2001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd > > > marriage > > > > > and > > > > > > so on.. > > > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to examine > > > 2nd > > > > > and > > > > > > so on cusps. > > > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well defined. > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > > > <parag_m_g> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third marriage > in > > > > this > > > > > > forum. > > > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as > > to > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be successful > > or > > > > not? > > > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so > > many > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other > > > than > > > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such > things > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > basis > > > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, one > > can > > > > > study > > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > thereafter. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Tw ji, It would be good to have a look on suggested charts. Do you or somebody is having the birth particulars for these charts? Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 8/21/05, tw853 <tw853 wrote: It's Kalidasa's, KSK's with a solid rationale and followed by SanjayRath & KP astrologers to refer to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner and the state of married life (KSK) " for thecharts like Lary King with 7 marriages, Elizabeth Taylor 8, Zsa ZsaGabor 9 etc.tw , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g>wrote:> I think you are right. Thats what I wanted to convey. In factthats> what many KP astrologers(known to me) are pracising for last 30 > years.> They(those with whom I have come across) examine 2nd,9th house,> because they mustnot have came across querrists asking about> subsequent(more than 3) marriages, I suppose. I think even KP > advocated the same thing.> And again, besides several other factors, one can have a look at> Mahadasha,Antardasha etc. If at the time(and thereafter) of2nd/3rd> marriage he is running fruitful/good dashas, he can have happy > married life.> Parag.>> , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:> > Dear Parag, Inder,> > > > 1. Since there is no response for the creditable> > authority/reference/rationale, let me clear the confusion causedby> > your statements of " one can study 2nd house for any subsequent > > marriages & married life thereafter " , and " 8th 3rd marriage andso> > on.. " which are neither Traditional nor KSK/KP.> >> > 2. Regarding more than one marriage, the houses to refer > > to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner andthe> > state of married life (KSK) " are the " 8th house from the most> recent> > spouse " (The 8th from any house signifies the " death " of matters in> > the original house.); for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th, i.e. 2nd> house;> > 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th marriage 4thhouse,> > 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc. > >> >> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >> > P.S.> >> > TRADITIONAL> > Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001,p> 107> > Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, p 291> >> > KSK> > KP Reader II, 1983, p 189> >> > KP> > Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book, > > 2002, p 60> >> >> >> >> > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:> > > Dear Inder, > > >> > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " ,please> > > specific and reliable?> > >> > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > >> > >> > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001>> > > wrote: > > > > Dear TW,> > > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted bySh> > KSK> > > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the books> pl.> > > > Inder> > > >> > > > , " tw853 " <tw853>wrote: > > > > > Dear Parag, Inder,> > > > >> > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " onecan> > > study> > > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are notKSK> > or> > > > KP?> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > tw> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , " Inder " > > < indervohra2001>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Parag,> > > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd> > > marriage > > > > > and> > > > > > so on..> > > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have toexamine> > > 2nd> > > > > and > > > > > > so on cusps.> > > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also welldefined.> > > > > > Inder> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > > > <parag_m_g>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,thirdmarriage> in> > > > this> > > > > > forum.> > > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused as> > to> > > > how> > > > > to> > > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would besuccessful> > or> > > > not? > > > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so> > many> > > > > > things,> > > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things other> > > than> > > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such> things> > > on> > > > > the> > > > > > basis > > > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope,one> > can> > > > > study> > > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > thereafter.> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Parag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Dear Punit, 1. Birth details of Elizabeth Taylor, her husbands and children together with her detailed timeline are already posted in Msg#5579/5630/5633. First marriage to hotel heir Nicky Hilton, an alcoholic and compulsive gambler was a disaster from the beginning without consummating the marriage until the third night. It's interesting that Nicky Hilton is also the second husband of Zsa Zsa Gabor. For Richard with five marriages Elizabeth never left his mind and heart. May be the same to Elizabeth who rushed to Europe for his funeral as soon as she heard the news of Richard's death in Geneva, like Aristotle Onassis flew to US by a special plain as soon as he heard the news of JFK's death to be the first person from abroad to offer condolence to Jackie in person. Please note DST for Eddie Fisher's TOB. 2. Larry King, Nov 19, 1933, 10:38 EST (+5:00), Brooklyn, NY, US, 40N38, 73W56; (8 marriages including the last one on 05-09-1977 to country singer Shawn Southwick) 3. Zsa Zsa Gabor, Feb 06, 1915, 20:08 MET, (-1:00), Budapest, Hungary, 47N30, 19E05 4. Catherine the Great, May 2, 1729, 02:30 LMT (-0:58:16), Stettin, Germany, 53N26, 14E34, only one official marriage but historically recorded at least 22 young lovers, since our two KP SWs can't help, the KP chart calculated by Astrodienst after deducting 2003 KPA calculated by Raichur's SW Demo, Asc Aq 08-42-39, 7 CSL Jupiter very clearly met the KP multimarriage rule. Regards, tw , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Tw ji, > It would be good to have a look on suggested charts. Do you or somebody is > having the birth particulars for these charts? > Thanks & Regards, > Punit Pandey > > On 8/21/05, tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > It's Kalidasa's, KSK's with a solid rationale and followed by Sanjay > > Rath & KP astrologers to refer to " ascertain the time of marriage, > > description of partner and the state of married life (KSK) " for the > > charts like Lary King with 7 marriages, Elizabeth Taylor 8, Zsa Zsa > > Gabor 9 etc. > > > > tw > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " <parag_m_g> > > wrote: > > > I think you are right. Thats what I wanted to convey. In fact > > thats > > > what many KP astrologers(known to me) are pracising for last 30 > > > years. > > > They(those with whom I have come across) examine 2nd,9th house, > > > because they mustnot have came across querrists asking about > > > subsequent(more than 3) marriages, I suppose. I think even KP > > > advocated the same thing. > > > And again, besides several other factors, one can have a look at > > > Mahadasha,Antardasha etc. If at the time(and thereafter) of > > 2nd/3rd > > > marriage he is running fruitful/good dashas, he can have happy > > > married life. > > > Parag. > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > > > 1. Since there is no response for the creditable > > > > authority/reference/rationale, let me clear the confusion caused > > by > > > > your statements of " one can study 2nd house for any subsequent > > > > marriages & married life thereafter " , and " 8th 3rd marriage and > > so > > > > on.. " which are neither Traditional nor KSK/KP. > > > > > > > > 2. Regarding more than one marriage, the houses to refer > > > > to " ascertain the time of marriage, description of partner and > > the > > > > state of married life (KSK) " are the " 8th house from the most > > > recent > > > > spouse " (The 8th from any house signifies the " death " of matters > > in > > > > the original house.); for 2nd marriage 8th-from-7th, i.e. 2nd > > > house; > > > > 3 rd marriage 8th-from-2nd, i.e. 9th house; 4th marriage 4th > > house, > > > > 5th marriage 11th house, 6th marriage 6th house etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL > > > > Kalidasa: Utara Kalamrita, translated by Dr. D.S. Sastri, 2001, > > p > > > 107 > > > > Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, 1998, p 291 > > > > > > > > KSK > > > > KP Reader II, 1983, p 189 > > > > > > > > KP > > > > Udaychandra Vaidya: Marriage Plurity, KP & Astrology Year Book, > > > > 2002, p 60 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > > > Dear Inder, > > > > > > > > > > Authority/Reference " as per traditional Hindu astrology " , > > please > > > > > specific and reliable? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " > > <indervohra2001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear TW, > > > > > > Rules are as per traditional Hindu astrology and adopted by > > Sh > > > > KSK > > > > > > in KP. I may not be able to give page number etc of the > > books > > > pl. > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Parag, Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is the authority or what is the rationale for " one > > can > > > > > study > > > > > > > 2nd house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > > > > > thereafter " " 8th 3rd marriage and so on.. " which are not > > KSK > > > > or > > > > > > KP? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Inder " > > > > <indervohra2001> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > > > > > 2nd cusp of natal chart shows 2nd marriage and 8th 3rd > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > so on.. > > > > > > > > For success of second or third marriage, we have to > > examine > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > so on cusps. > > > > > > > > The rules of more than one marriage are also well > > defined. > > > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " parag_m_g " > > > > > <parag_m_g> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Last week there was discussion on second,third > > marriage > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > forum. > > > > > > > > > And respected Astrologers/Members were seems confused > > as > > > > to > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > predict whether second/third marriage would be > > successful > > > > or > > > > > > not? > > > > > > > > > First of all in JanmaKundali, every house denotes so > > > > many > > > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > > > therefore 7th Sublord too will indicate many things > > other > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > marriage. So it is always advisable to predict such > > > things > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > basis > > > > > > > > > of horary. But still if one has to go by horoscope, > > one > > > > can > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > > > house for any subsequent marriages & married life > > > > thereafter. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Parag. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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