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Dear Kanak,

CONGRATS You got it correct. The NASA fixed the date of launch as 26 th of this month .Well done Kanak

With best wishes

Pranav

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Dear Pranav,

thank,

you are the person who is increase my intrest in mundane and muhurat so all credit goes to you.i am learn mutch from our private mailing .

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kanak>pranav siva <pranavsiva> > >CC: pranavsiva New Date of Discovery Launch !>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:14:28 +0100 (BST)>>>Dear Kanak,>>CONGRATS You got it correct. The NASA fixed the date of launch as 26 th of this month .Well done Kanak>>With best wishes>>Pranav>>>>> Too much spam in your inbox? Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE!>http://in.mail. Find e-mail and documents on your PC instantly with the new MSN Search Toolbar–FREE!

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Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

, " bsosale " <bsosale> wrote:

> Congrats Kanak,

>

> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.

>

> Good work.

> Regards

> Bala

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thank you Bala and Tin Win ji,

 

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kanakbsosale <bsosale wrote:

Congrats Kanak, The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. Good work. Regards Bala

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Dear Kanak,

 

I add my congratulations also.

 

I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.

Would you mind resending it.

 

Thanks

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:

 

>Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

>

>Regards,

>

>tw

>

> , " bsosale " <bsosale> wrote:

>> Congrats Kanak,

>>

>> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.

>>

>> Good work.

>> Regards

>> Bala

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Dear Ron,

details:

DATE 18,07,2005TIME: 09,40,55 AM PLACE L G HOSPITAL-AHMEDABAD GUJARAT 23 N 00 , 72 E 36

DAY LORD IS MOON

ASC= 139 3 56 SUN VEN

MOON/CHANDRA 225 55 22 MARS SAT

RAHU 353 59 6 JUP MERC MARS VENKETU 173 59 6 MERC MARS MARS VEN

PUNARPHOO DOSA also appeare here:

so i check for nex week and also foR SAT star day: and it will 25th Monday to 26th Tuesday MOON TRansite in SAT star.daylord is MOON both are from RP so in my opinion re-launch of Discovery will be on 25th or 26th

on 19th july 2005 NASA announce re-launch date as 26th.

 

regards

kanak>"rongaunt au" <rongaunt> > >Re: Re: New Date of Discovery Launch !>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:40:57 +1000>>>Dear Kanak,>>I add my congratulations also.>>I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.>Would you mind resending it.>>Thanks>>>Ron Gaunt>>>>On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:>> >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> >> >Regards,> >> >tw> >> > , "bsosale" <bsosale> wrote:> >> Congrats Kanak,> >>> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> >>> >> Good work.> >> Regards> >> Bala> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Dear Kanak

Good work. Congrats,

Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa.

good Luck

"rongaunt au" <rongaunt wrote:

Dear Kanak,I add my congratulations also. I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.Would you mind resending it.ThanksRon GauntOn Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:>Let me join to congratulate Kanak.>>Regards, >>tw>> , "bsosale" wrote:>> Congrats Kanak,>> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.>> >> Good work.>> Regards>> Bala>>>>>> >

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Dear Kanak,

 

1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.

 

2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more

important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face

value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is

also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in

1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for

you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison,

by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva

closing above you. "

 

Regards,

 

tw

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear Kanak

> Good work. Congrats,

> Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa.

> good Luck

>

>

> " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak,

>

> I add my congratulations also.

>

> I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.

> Would you mind resending it.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> > , " bsosale " wrote:

> >> Congrats Kanak,

> >>

> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.

> >>

> >> Good work.

> >> Regards

> >> Bala

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Kanak,

Congratulations once againBest wishes and warm regards

Mukesh

 

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bsosale

Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:29 PM

Re: New Date of Discovery Launch !

Congrats Kanak, The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. Good work. Regards Bala

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tw,

Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva closing above you."Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood him in good stead in his own life

S Murughan

To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Kanak,1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva closing above you."Regards,tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> Dear Kanak> Good work. Congrats,> Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > good Luck> > > "rongaunt@b...

au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > I add my congratulations also. > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> Would you mind resending it.> > Thanks> > > Ron Gaunt> > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> >> >Regards, > >> >tw> >> > , "bsosale" wrote:> >> Congrats Kanak,> >> > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> >> > >> Good work.> >> Regards> >> Bala> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

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S Murughan,

 

K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of

CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in

NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS,

1993, pp 162- 171 ---

 

" Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and

Astrology for his correct predictions. "

 

tw

 

 

, saktivel murughan

<sakthivel_murughan> wrote:

> tw,

>

> Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in

> 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for

> you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison,

> by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva

> closing above you. "

> Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find

lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into

secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of

upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood

him in good stead in his own life

> S Murughan

> To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the

list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?

> tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.

>

> 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a

more

> important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face

> value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is

> also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin

in

> 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for

> you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison,

> by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva

> closing above you. "

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak

> > Good work. Congrats,

> > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa.

> > good Luck

> >

> >

> > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > I add my congratulations also.

> >

> > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.

> > Would you mind resending it.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> > Ron Gaunt

> >

> >

> >

> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:

> >

> > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >tw

> > >

> > > , " bsosale " wrote:

> > >> Congrats Kanak,

> > >>

> > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.

> > >>

> > >> Good work.

> > >> Regards

> > >> Bala

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan

S Murughantw853 <tw853 wrote:

S Murughan,K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, 1993, pp 162- 171 ---"Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and Astrology for his correct predictions."tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> tw,> > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > closing above you."> Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his

own future. His body was find lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood him in good stead in his own life> S Murughan > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?> tw853 <tw853> wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.> > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > you a

violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > closing above you."> > Regards,> > tw> , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote:> > Dear Kanak> > Good work. Congrats,> > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > good Luck> > > > > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> > Would you mind resending it.> > > > Thanks> > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > > > >Let

me join to congratulate Kanak.> > >> > >Regards, > > >> > >tw> > >> > > , "bsosale" wrote:> > >> Congrats Kanak,> > >> > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> > >> > > >> Good work.> > >> Regards> > >> Bala> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

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What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter?

 

tw

 

, saktivel murughan

<sakthivel_murughan> wrote:

> Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in

palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his

own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not

have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan

> S Murughan

>

> tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>

>

> S Murughan,

>

> K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of

> CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in

> NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI

PUBLICATIONS,

> 1993, pp 162- 171 ---

>

> " Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and

> Astrology for his correct predictions. "

>

> tw

>

>

> , saktivel murughan

> <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:

> > tw,

> >

> > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in

> > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee

for

> > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by

poison,

> > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva

> > closing above you. "

> > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was

find

> lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into

> secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of

> upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood

> him in good stead in his own life

> > S Murughan

> > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the

> list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?

> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri

ayanmsa.

> >

> > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a

> more

> > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of

face

> > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is

> > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting

Rasputin

> in

> > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee

for

> > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by

poison,

> > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva

> > closing above you. "

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> > , anant raichur

<anant_1608>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak

> > > Good work. Congrats,

> > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa.

> > > good Luck

> > >

> > >

> > > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > I add my congratulations also.

> > >

> > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.

> > > Would you mind resending it.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > > Ron Gaunt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

> > > >

> > > >Regards,

> > > >

> > > >tw

> > > >

> > > > , " bsosale " wrote:

> > > >> Congrats Kanak,

> > > >>

> > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you

predicted.

> > > >>

> > > >> Good work.

> > > >> Regards

> > > >> Bala

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Kanak,

I also convey congrats for your work. Wish you all the best.

I read your analysis quite late, in fact now. It is impressive.

Inder

, " rongaunt@b... au "

<rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak,

>

> I add my congratulations also.

>

> I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.

> Would you mind resending it.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> > , " bsosale " <bsosale> wrote:

> >> Congrats Kanak,

> >>

> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.

> >>

> >> Good work.

> >> Regards

> >> Bala

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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.. Late B V Raman, hailed as the father of Modern vedic jyotish, (whose grand Suryanarayan Rau was a close friend of Cheiro) told me

S Murughantw853 <tw853 wrote:

What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter?tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan > S Murughan> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > S Murughan,> > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, > 1993, pp 162- 171 ---> > "Cheiro was very popular in the field

of Palmistry, Numerology and > Astrology for his correct predictions."> > tw> > > , saktivel murughan > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> > tw,> > > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > closing above you."> > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood > him in good stead in his own life> > S Murughan

> > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.> > > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a > more > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin > in > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > closing above you."> > > >

Regards,> > > > tw> > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote:> > > Dear Kanak> > > Good work. Congrats,> > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > > good Luck> > > > > > > > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> > > Would you mind resending it.> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > > > > > >Let me join to congratulate

Kanak.> > > >> > > >Regards, > > > >> > > >tw> > > >> > > > , "bsosale" wrote:> > > >> Congrats Kanak,> > > >> > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> > > >> > > > >> Good work.> > > >> Regards> > > >> Bala> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >

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1. It may be the misinterpretation of " gutter " in the following

massage.

 

" Cheiro died a true prophet's death; alone and in disgrace,

surrendering to a stroke in a Hollywood gutter while on his way to

hospital. "

 

in " We Are All Depraved, Criswell Predicts Your Next Ten Years, Ken

Hollings "

 

http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/zz5/soc/ctheory/articles/We_Are_All_Deprav

ed_by_Ken_Hollings_.html

 

2. B. V. Raman's writting about Cheiro in his book " My

Experiences in Astrology, 2001 " , p 59-66 (the same " Autobiography of

a Vedic Astrologer " ) does not show that his grandfather Bangalore

Suryanarain Rao was a close friend of Cheiro and Raman could know

about the Cheiro's death mode by personal contact i.e. in 1930,

coming across letters written to his grandfather by Cheiro, Zadkeil

II, etc---; writing to Cheiro providing his birth details and palm

impression with a request for Cheiro's view on his Life-Line; a

reply letter admiringly referring to Indian sages as the propounders

of the wisdom of astrology and palmistry and predicting the length

of Raman's age 84 by numerology; thank you note to Cheiro and their

correspondence ceased; in 1931 or 1932 Mrs Cheiro wrote to Raman

saying about the loss of Cheiro's some talisman affecting his

predictive powers; his grandfather's remarks on Cheiro --- a gifted

palmist ---having mantrasiddhi.

 

(Note: In our group messages: Bangalore Suryanarain Rao in Msg#3018

ponit 4. g & References, B V Raman in Msg#3101, item III & Msg# ??

Proof of the Pudding f 110 Raman's Predictions by KN Rao

in " Astrology and the Hoax of Scientific Temper " , 1998, pp 24-104)

 

3. It seems that the reference is not sufficient enough to send

it as the additional information to the Astrologers' Memorial

(TRIBUTES TO ASTROLOGERS) where Raman is also honored.

 

http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/cheiro.html

 

4. Even Cheiro were able to foresee his own death, his fate might

be inevitable as mentioned by Guruji KSK ---

 

" ---- even after knowing the nature and time of the event, however

mighty one may be, could not alter it. "

 

(KP Reader II, 1983, pp 19-23, by giving examples especially

Mihira's prediction of the death of King Vikramathithya's son for

which he was honored with Varaha title in ibid, and also in the

article of Raman's student and friend Chakrapani Ullal to whom in

early December 1998 before his death on 20 Dec Raman gave some of

the puja worship implements he'd used his whole life, saying " I

won't be needing these. " )

 

http://www.handanalysis.net/library/rvw_cheiro.htm

 

http://www.chakrapani.com/articles/articleancientstories.htm

 

http://www.hinduism-today.com/archives/1999/3/1999-3-16.shtml

 

 

tw

 

 

, saktivel murughan

<sakthivel_murughan> wrote:

> . Late B V Raman, hailed as the father of Modern vedic jyotish,

(whose grand Suryanarayan Rau was a close friend of Cheiro) told me

> S Murughan

>

> tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter?

>

> tw

>

> , saktivel murughan

> <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:

> > Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in

> palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his

> own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not

> have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan

> > S Murughan

> >

> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> >

> >

> > S Murughan,

> >

> > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end

of

> > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in

> > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI

> PUBLICATIONS,

> > 1993, pp 162- 171 ---

> >

> > " Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology

and

> > Astrology for his correct predictions. "

> >

> > tw

> >

> >

> > , saktivel murughan

> > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:

> > > tw,

> > >

> > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in

> > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee

> for

> > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by

> poison,

> > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the

Neva

> > > closing above you. "

> > > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was

> find

> > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into

> > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of

> > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never

stood

> > him in good stead in his own life

> > > S Murughan

> > > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the

> > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?

> > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri

> ayanmsa.

> > >

> > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play

a

> > more

> > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of

> face

> > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy

is

> > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting

> Rasputin

> > in

> > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee

> for

> > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by

> poison,

> > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the

Neva

> > > closing above you. "

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > > , anant raichur

> <anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Kanak

> > > > Good work. Congrats,

> > > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa.

> > > > good Luck

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kanak,

> > > >

> > > > I add my congratulations also.

> > > >

> > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and

time.

> > > > Would you mind resending it.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ron Gaunt

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >tw

> > > > >

> > > > > , " bsosale " wrote:

> > > > >> Congrats Kanak,

> > > > >>

> > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you

> predicted.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Good work.

> > > > >> Regards

> > > > >> Bala

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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1. It may be the misinterpretation of "gutter" in the following massage."Cheiro died a true prophet's death; alone and in disgrace, surrendering to a stroke in a Hollywood gutter while on his way to hospital."

Murughan>>>> As you pointed out , it might be a misinterpretation of "gutter" in the above passage.Still the question I raised remains unanswered. That is, Did Cheiro know abt his impending death ?Do you have any recorded evidence either of Cheiro or his acquaintance to substantiate it ? One more thing.I wrote that piece not to denigrate Cheiro or astrology or astrologers in any manner.Please don't misunderstandin "We Are All Depraved, Criswell Predicts Your Next Ten Years, Ken Hollings" http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/zz5/soc/ctheory/articles/We_Are_All_Depraved_by_Ken_Hollings_.html2. B. V. Raman's writting about Cheiro in his book "My Experiences in Astrology, 2001", p 59-66 (the same "Autobiography of a Vedic Astrologer ") does not show that his grandfather Bangalore Suryanarain Rao was a close friend of Cheiro and

Raman could know about the Cheiro's death mode by personal contact i.e. in 1930, coming across letters written to his grandfather by Cheiro, Zadkeil II, etc---; writing to Cheiro providing his birth details and palm impression with a request for Cheiro's view on his Life-Line; a reply letter admiringly referring to Indian sages as the propounders of the wisdom of astrology and palmistry and predicting the length of Raman's age 84 by numerology; thank you note to Cheiro and their correspondence ceased; in 1931 or 1932 Mrs Cheiro wrote to Raman saying about the loss of Cheiro's some talisman affecting his predictive powers; his grandfather's remarks on Cheiro --- a gifted palmist ---having mantrasiddhi. (Note: In our group messages: Bangalore Suryanarain Rao in Msg#3018 ponit 4. g & References, B V Raman in Msg#3101, item III & Msg# ?? Proof of the Pudding f 110 Raman's Predictions

by KN Rao in "Astrology and the Hoax of Scientific Temper", 1998, pp 24-104) 3. It seems that the reference is not sufficient enough to send it as the additional information to the Astrologers' Memorial (TRIBUTES TO ASTROLOGERS) where Raman is also honored.http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/cheiro.html4. Even Cheiro were able to foresee his own death, his fate might be inevitable as mentioned by Guruji KSK ---"---- even after knowing the nature and time of the event, however mighty one may be, could not alter it. "(KP Reader II, 1983, pp 19-23, by giving examples especially Mihira's prediction of the death of King Vikramathithya's son for which he was honored with Varaha title in ibid, and also in the article of Raman's student and friend Chakrapani Ullal to whom in early December 1998 before his

death on 20 Dec Raman gave some of the puja worship implements he'd used his whole life, saying "I won't be needing these.")http://www.handanalysis.net/library/rvw_cheiro.htmhttp://www.chakrapani.com/articles/articleancientstories.htmhttp://www.hinduism-today.com/archives/1999/3/1999-3-16.shtmltw--- In , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> . Late B V Raman, hailed as the father of Modern vedic jyotish, (whose grand Suryanarayan Rau was a close friend of Cheiro) told me> S Murughan> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter?> > tw> > --- In

, saktivel murughan > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> > Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in > palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his > own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not > have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan > > S Murughan> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > > > > S Murughan,> > > > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of > > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in > > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI > PUBLICATIONS, > > 1993, pp 162- 171 ---> > > > "Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and > > Astrology for his correct

predictions."> > > > tw> > > > > > , saktivel murughan > > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> > > tw,> > > > > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee > for > > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by > poison, > > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > > closing above you."> > > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was > find > > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into > > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of > > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood > > him in good

stead in his own life> > > S Murughan > > > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the > > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?> > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri > ayanmsa.> > > > > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a > > more > > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of > face > > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting > Rasputin > > in > > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee > for > > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by >

poison, > > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > > closing above you."> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > , anant raichur > <anant_1608> > > > wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak> > > > Good work. Congrats,> > > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > > > good Luck> > > > > > > > > > > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> > > > Would you mind resending it.> > > > > >

> > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > > > > > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> > > > >> > > > >Regards, > > > > >> > > > >tw> > > > >> > > > > , "bsosale" wrote:> > > > >> Congrats Kanak,> > > > >> > > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you > predicted.> > > > >> > > > > >> Good work.> > > > >> Regards> > > > >> Bala> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

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