Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Dear Kanak, CONGRATS You got it correct. The NASA fixed the date of launch as 26 th of this month .Well done Kanak With best wishes Pranav Too much spam in your inbox? Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE!http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Dear Pranav, thank, you are the person who is increase my intrest in mundane and muhurat so all credit goes to you.i am learn mutch from our private mailing . regards kanak>pranav siva <pranavsiva> > >CC: pranavsiva New Date of Discovery Launch !>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:14:28 +0100 (BST)>>>Dear Kanak,>>CONGRATS You got it correct. The NASA fixed the date of launch as 26 th of this month .Well done Kanak>>With best wishes>>Pranav>>>>> Too much spam in your inbox? Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE!>http://in.mail. Find e-mail and documents on your PC instantly with the new MSN Search Toolbar–FREE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Congrats Kanak, The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. Good work. Regards Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Let me join to congratulate Kanak. Regards, tw , " bsosale " <bsosale> wrote: > Congrats Kanak, > > The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. > > Good work. > Regards > Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 thank you Bala and Tin Win ji, regards kanakbsosale <bsosale wrote: Congrats Kanak, The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. Good work. Regards Bala Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dear Kanak, I add my congratulations also. I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time. Would you mind resending it. Thanks Ron Gaunt On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote: >Let me join to congratulate Kanak. > >Regards, > >tw > > , " bsosale " <bsosale> wrote: >> Congrats Kanak, >> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. >> >> Good work. >> Regards >> Bala > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dear Ron, details: DATE 18,07,2005TIME: 09,40,55 AM PLACE L G HOSPITAL-AHMEDABAD GUJARAT 23 N 00 , 72 E 36 DAY LORD IS MOON ASC= 139 3 56 SUN VEN MOON/CHANDRA 225 55 22 MARS SAT RAHU 353 59 6 JUP MERC MARS VENKETU 173 59 6 MERC MARS MARS VEN PUNARPHOO DOSA also appeare here: so i check for nex week and also foR SAT star day: and it will 25th Monday to 26th Tuesday MOON TRansite in SAT star.daylord is MOON both are from RP so in my opinion re-launch of Discovery will be on 25th or 26th on 19th july 2005 NASA announce re-launch date as 26th. regards kanak>"rongaunt au" <rongaunt> > >Re: Re: New Date of Discovery Launch !>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:40:57 +1000>>>Dear Kanak,>>I add my congratulations also.>>I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.>Would you mind resending it.>>Thanks>>>Ron Gaunt>>>>On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:>> >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> >> >Regards,> >> >tw> >> > , "bsosale" <bsosale> wrote:> >> Congrats Kanak,> >>> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> >>> >> Good work.> >> Regards> >> Bala> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dear Kanak Good work. Congrats, Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. good Luck "rongaunt au" <rongaunt wrote: Dear Kanak,I add my congratulations also. I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.Would you mind resending it.ThanksRon GauntOn Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:>Let me join to congratulate Kanak.>>Regards, >>tw>> , "bsosale" wrote:>> Congrats Kanak,>> >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.>> >> Good work.>> Regards>> Bala>>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dear Kanak, 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa. 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva closing above you. " Regards, tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > Dear Kanak > Good work. Congrats, > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > good Luck > > > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > I add my congratulations also. > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time. > Would you mind resending it. > > Thanks > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote: > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak. > > > >Regards, > > > >tw > > > > , " bsosale " wrote: > >> Congrats Kanak, > >> > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. > >> > >> Good work. > >> Regards > >> Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dear Kanak, Congratulations once againBest wishes and warm regards Mukesh - bsosale Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:29 PM Re: New Date of Discovery Launch ! Congrats Kanak, The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. Good work. Regards Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 tw, Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva closing above you."Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood him in good stead in his own life S Murughan To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva closing above you."Regards,tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> Dear Kanak> Good work. Congrats,> Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > good Luck> > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > I add my congratulations also. > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> Would you mind resending it.> > Thanks> > > Ron Gaunt> > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> >> >Regards, > >> >tw> >> > , "bsosale" wrote:> >> Congrats Kanak,> >> > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> >> > >> Good work.> >> Regards> >> Bala> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 S Murughan, K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, 1993, pp 162- 171 --- " Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and Astrology for his correct predictions. " tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote: > tw, > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > closing above you. " > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood him in good stead in his own life > S Murughan > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ? > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa. > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > closing above you. " > > Regards, > > tw > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote: > > Dear Kanak > > Good work. Congrats, > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > good Luck > > > > > > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time. > > Would you mind resending it. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote: > > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >tw > > > > > > , " bsosale " wrote: > > >> Congrats Kanak, > > >> > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. > > >> > > >> Good work. > > >> Regards > > >> Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan S Murughantw853 <tw853 wrote: S Murughan,K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, 1993, pp 162- 171 ---"Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and Astrology for his correct predictions."tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> tw,> > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > closing above you."> Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood him in good stead in his own life> S Murughan > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?> tw853 <tw853> wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.> > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a more > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > closing above you."> > Regards,> > tw> , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote:> > Dear Kanak> > Good work. Congrats,> > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > good Luck> > > > > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> > Would you mind resending it.> > > > Thanks> > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> > >> > >Regards, > > >> > >tw> > >> > > , "bsosale" wrote:> > >> Congrats Kanak,> > >> > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> > >> > > >> Good work.> > >> Regards> > >> Bala> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter? tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote: > Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan > S Murughan > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > S Murughan, > > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, > 1993, pp 162- 171 --- > > " Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and > Astrology for his correct predictions. " > > tw > > > , saktivel murughan > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote: > > tw, > > > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > closing above you. " > > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood > him in good stead in his own life > > S Murughan > > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ? > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa. > > > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a > more > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin > in > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee for > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > closing above you. " > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote: > > > Dear Kanak > > > Good work. Congrats, > > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > > good Luck > > > > > > > > > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time. > > > Would you mind resending it. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak. > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > >tw > > > > > > > > , " bsosale " wrote: > > > >> Congrats Kanak, > > > >> > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. > > > >> > > > >> Good work. > > > >> Regards > > > >> Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Dear Kanak, I also convey congrats for your work. Wish you all the best. I read your analysis quite late, in fact now. It is impressive. Inder , " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > I add my congratulations also. > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time. > Would you mind resending it. > > Thanks > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote: > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak. > > > >Regards, > > > >tw > > > > , " bsosale " <bsosale> wrote: > >> Congrats Kanak, > >> > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted. > >> > >> Good work. > >> Regards > >> Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 .. Late B V Raman, hailed as the father of Modern vedic jyotish, (whose grand Suryanarayan Rau was a close friend of Cheiro) told me S Murughantw853 <tw853 wrote: What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter?tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan > S Murughan> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > S Murughan,> > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI PUBLICATIONS, > 1993, pp 162- 171 ---> > "Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and > Astrology for his correct predictions."> > tw> > > , saktivel murughan > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> > tw,> > > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > closing above you."> > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was find > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood > him in good stead in his own life> > S Murughan > > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri ayanmsa.> > > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a > more > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of face > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting Rasputin > in > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee for > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by poison, > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > closing above you."> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote:> > > Dear Kanak> > > Good work. Congrats,> > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > > good Luck> > > > > > > > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> > > Would you mind resending it.> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > > > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> > > >> > > >Regards, > > > >> > > >tw> > > >> > > > , "bsosale" wrote:> > > >> Congrats Kanak,> > > >> > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you predicted.> > > >> > > > >> Good work.> > > >> Regards> > > >> Bala> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 1. It may be the misinterpretation of " gutter " in the following massage. " Cheiro died a true prophet's death; alone and in disgrace, surrendering to a stroke in a Hollywood gutter while on his way to hospital. " in " We Are All Depraved, Criswell Predicts Your Next Ten Years, Ken Hollings " http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/zz5/soc/ctheory/articles/We_Are_All_Deprav ed_by_Ken_Hollings_.html 2. B. V. Raman's writting about Cheiro in his book " My Experiences in Astrology, 2001 " , p 59-66 (the same " Autobiography of a Vedic Astrologer " ) does not show that his grandfather Bangalore Suryanarain Rao was a close friend of Cheiro and Raman could know about the Cheiro's death mode by personal contact i.e. in 1930, coming across letters written to his grandfather by Cheiro, Zadkeil II, etc---; writing to Cheiro providing his birth details and palm impression with a request for Cheiro's view on his Life-Line; a reply letter admiringly referring to Indian sages as the propounders of the wisdom of astrology and palmistry and predicting the length of Raman's age 84 by numerology; thank you note to Cheiro and their correspondence ceased; in 1931 or 1932 Mrs Cheiro wrote to Raman saying about the loss of Cheiro's some talisman affecting his predictive powers; his grandfather's remarks on Cheiro --- a gifted palmist ---having mantrasiddhi. (Note: In our group messages: Bangalore Suryanarain Rao in Msg#3018 ponit 4. g & References, B V Raman in Msg#3101, item III & Msg# ?? Proof of the Pudding f 110 Raman's Predictions by KN Rao in " Astrology and the Hoax of Scientific Temper " , 1998, pp 24-104) 3. It seems that the reference is not sufficient enough to send it as the additional information to the Astrologers' Memorial (TRIBUTES TO ASTROLOGERS) where Raman is also honored. http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/cheiro.html 4. Even Cheiro were able to foresee his own death, his fate might be inevitable as mentioned by Guruji KSK --- " ---- even after knowing the nature and time of the event, however mighty one may be, could not alter it. " (KP Reader II, 1983, pp 19-23, by giving examples especially Mihira's prediction of the death of King Vikramathithya's son for which he was honored with Varaha title in ibid, and also in the article of Raman's student and friend Chakrapani Ullal to whom in early December 1998 before his death on 20 Dec Raman gave some of the puja worship implements he'd used his whole life, saying " I won't be needing these. " ) http://www.handanalysis.net/library/rvw_cheiro.htm http://www.chakrapani.com/articles/articleancientstories.htm http://www.hinduism-today.com/archives/1999/3/1999-3-16.shtml tw , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote: > . Late B V Raman, hailed as the father of Modern vedic jyotish, (whose grand Suryanarayan Rau was a close friend of Cheiro) told me > S Murughan > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter? > > tw > > , saktivel murughan > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote: > > Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in > palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his > own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not > have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan > > S Murughan > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > S Murughan, > > > > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of > > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in > > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI > PUBLICATIONS, > > 1993, pp 162- 171 --- > > > > " Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and > > Astrology for his correct predictions. " > > > > tw > > > > > > , saktivel murughan > > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote: > > > tw, > > > > > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee > for > > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by > poison, > > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > > closing above you. " > > > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was > find > > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into > > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of > > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood > > him in good stead in his own life > > > S Murughan > > > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the > > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ? > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri > ayanmsa. > > > > > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a > > more > > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of > face > > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting > Rasputin > > in > > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg " I forsee > for > > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by > poison, > > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > > closing above you. " > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > , anant raichur > <anant_1608> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak > > > > Good work. Congrats, > > > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > > > good Luck > > > > > > > > > > > > " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time. > > > > Would you mind resending it. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak. > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > >tw > > > > > > > > > > , " bsosale " wrote: > > > > >> Congrats Kanak, > > > > >> > > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you > predicted. > > > > >> > > > > >> Good work. > > > > >> Regards > > > > >> Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 tw853 <tw853 wrote: 1. It may be the misinterpretation of "gutter" in the following massage."Cheiro died a true prophet's death; alone and in disgrace, surrendering to a stroke in a Hollywood gutter while on his way to hospital." Murughan>>>> As you pointed out , it might be a misinterpretation of "gutter" in the above passage.Still the question I raised remains unanswered. That is, Did Cheiro know abt his impending death ?Do you have any recorded evidence either of Cheiro or his acquaintance to substantiate it ? One more thing.I wrote that piece not to denigrate Cheiro or astrology or astrologers in any manner.Please don't misunderstandin "We Are All Depraved, Criswell Predicts Your Next Ten Years, Ken Hollings" http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/zz5/soc/ctheory/articles/We_Are_All_Depraved_by_Ken_Hollings_.html2. B. V. Raman's writting about Cheiro in his book "My Experiences in Astrology, 2001", p 59-66 (the same "Autobiography of a Vedic Astrologer ") does not show that his grandfather Bangalore Suryanarain Rao was a close friend of Cheiro and Raman could know about the Cheiro's death mode by personal contact i.e. in 1930, coming across letters written to his grandfather by Cheiro, Zadkeil II, etc---; writing to Cheiro providing his birth details and palm impression with a request for Cheiro's view on his Life-Line; a reply letter admiringly referring to Indian sages as the propounders of the wisdom of astrology and palmistry and predicting the length of Raman's age 84 by numerology; thank you note to Cheiro and their correspondence ceased; in 1931 or 1932 Mrs Cheiro wrote to Raman saying about the loss of Cheiro's some talisman affecting his predictive powers; his grandfather's remarks on Cheiro --- a gifted palmist ---having mantrasiddhi. (Note: In our group messages: Bangalore Suryanarain Rao in Msg#3018 ponit 4. g & References, B V Raman in Msg#3101, item III & Msg# ?? Proof of the Pudding f 110 Raman's Predictions by KN Rao in "Astrology and the Hoax of Scientific Temper", 1998, pp 24-104) 3. It seems that the reference is not sufficient enough to send it as the additional information to the Astrologers' Memorial (TRIBUTES TO ASTROLOGERS) where Raman is also honored.http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/cheiro.html4. Even Cheiro were able to foresee his own death, his fate might be inevitable as mentioned by Guruji KSK ---"---- even after knowing the nature and time of the event, however mighty one may be, could not alter it. "(KP Reader II, 1983, pp 19-23, by giving examples especially Mihira's prediction of the death of King Vikramathithya's son for which he was honored with Varaha title in ibid, and also in the article of Raman's student and friend Chakrapani Ullal to whom in early December 1998 before his death on 20 Dec Raman gave some of the puja worship implements he'd used his whole life, saying "I won't be needing these.")http://www.handanalysis.net/library/rvw_cheiro.htmhttp://www.chakrapani.com/articles/articleancientstories.htmhttp://www.hinduism-today.com/archives/1999/3/1999-3-16.shtmltw--- In , saktivel murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> . Late B V Raman, hailed as the father of Modern vedic jyotish, (whose grand Suryanarayan Rau was a close friend of Cheiro) told me> S Murughan> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> What is the reference? Where and when found dead in a gutter?> > tw> > --- In , saktivel murughan > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> > Yes.I know that.What I told is inspite of his expertise in > palmistry and other occult science, he was unable to foresee his > own fate or future or impending death.Had it been so, he would not > have been found dead in a gutter, akin to a orphan > > S Murughan> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > > > > S Murughan,> > > > K. Hariharan, Son of Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, says at the end of > > CHEIRO: A SUCCESSSFUL PALMIST, NUMEROLOGIST AND ASTROLOGER, in > > NOTABLE PERSONS KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI, KRISHNAMURTI > PUBLICATIONS, > > 1993, pp 162- 171 ---> > > > "Cheiro was very popular in the field of Palmistry, Numerology and > > Astrology for his correct predictions."> > > > tw> > > > > > , saktivel murughan > > <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> > > tw,> > > > > > Cheiro was predicting Rasputin in > > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee > for > > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by > poison, > > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > > closing above you."> > > Murughan>>>>>>Cheiro never knew his own future. His body was > find > > lying in a gutter.Cheiro who came to Bombay was initiated into > > secret Mantra by an unknown sanyasin. Based on the strength of > > upasana, like Ksk, he too was predicting.However, it never stood > > him in good stead in his own life> > > S Murughan > > > To the moderator---I am a new comer I sent my greetings to the > > list but it was not found in the list.why is it so ?> > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > 1. Let us see any different by using KP St. line or Lahiri > ayanmsa.> > > > > > 2. In my personal opinion, human factor of judgement may play a > > more > > > important role. As I've apparised many times, on the basis of > face > > > value in this group your are the best in prediction and Sandy is > > > also so good with her details like Cheiro was predicting > Rasputin > > in > > > 1905 (12 years ahead of his death) in St. Petersburg "I forsee > for > > > you a violent end within the palce. You will be menaced by > poison, > > > by knife, and by bullet. Fianlly I see the icy water of the Neva > > > closing above you."> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > , anant raichur > <anant_1608> > > > wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak> > > > Good work. Congrats,> > > > Try if you get same answer using KP St.line ayanmsa. > > > > good Luck> > > > > > > > > > > > "rongaunt@b... au" <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > I add my congratulations also. > > > > > > > > I cannot remember seeing your prasna for the new date and time.> > > > Would you mind resending it.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:22:46 -0000, you wrote:> > > > > > > > >Let me join to congratulate Kanak.> > > > >> > > > >Regards, > > > > >> > > > >tw> > > > >> > > > > , "bsosale" wrote:> > > > >> Congrats Kanak,> > > > >> > > > > >> The space shuttle launched at 10.39 AM(EST) as you > predicted.> > > > >> > > > > >> Good work.> > > > >> Regards> > > > >> Bala> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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