Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear Members, I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principle of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones, jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful before trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as a practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under the LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and beg for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce results. Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly. This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understand anything in life. Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anything like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessary because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what am I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought into this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working. Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the Chart. After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out the RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take only the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord and finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place you are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separately as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should be taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary. In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result, go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for which you have invoked the RPs. In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs that are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should be followed. I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP Students. Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I am not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, for which I hope they will pardon me. GOOD LUCK Kpk3010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear kpk3010, 1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha. 2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). Thanks and regards, tw , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote: > Dear Members, > I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I > find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principle > of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > > WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are > the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the > labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones, > jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them > due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful before > trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the > procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as a > practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) > after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under the > LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > > Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or > from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and beg > for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are > alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and > mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce > results. > > Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly. > This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understand > anything in life. > > Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anything > like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessary > because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give > results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be > asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what am > I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought into > this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father > and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > > Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING > period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the > Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day > you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the > Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the > Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account > Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year > and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot > wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working. > Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day > and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the > Chart. > > After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out the > RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are > going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take only > the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord and > finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, > it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from > Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place you > are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this > exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of > the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any > Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. > > The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING > PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as > RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., > those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are > occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being > strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separately > as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they > are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should be > taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and > similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary. > In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. > > After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by > positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the > type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result, > go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for > which you have invoked the RPs. > > In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) > removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative > houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs that > are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) > RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are > occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should be > followed. > > I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following > all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should > share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP > Students. > > Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I am > not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, for > which I hope they will pardon me. > > GOOD LUCK > Kpk3010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear Sir, >Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING>period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the>Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day>you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the>Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the>Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account>Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year>and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot>wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working.>Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day>and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the>Chart.> how to check favorable period ? please explain for benift for us. regards kanak Find just what you're after with the new, more precise MSN Search - try it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear Mr.Kuppu Ganapathi, Thank you for your detailed explanation... With highest regards, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !kpk3010 <kpk3010 wrote: Dear Members,I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and Ifind that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principleof RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they arethe POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of thelabyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones,jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by themdue to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful beforetrying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is theprocedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as apracticising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under theLOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart orfrom a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and begfor the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they arealive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body andmind through which your intellect works on any subject and produceresults.Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly.This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understandanything in life.Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anythinglike, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessarybecause the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to giveresults based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may beasked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what amI to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought intothis world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Fatherand Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNINGperiod Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and theAscendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the dayyou are working out the chart. Here give more importance to theAscendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up theChart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into accountJupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the yearand all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannotwait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working.Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per dayand we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of theChart.After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out theRULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they aregoing to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take onlythe 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. AscendantStar Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord andfinally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be fromMidnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place youare examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in thisexercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness ofthe time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from anyScientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULINGPLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly asRPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which areoccupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are beingstrongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separatelyas SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if theyare conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should betaken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary andsimilarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary.In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on thetype of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result,go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose forwhich you have invoked the RPs.In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negativehouses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs thatare in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that areoccupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should befollowed.I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by followingall the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I shouldshare the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KPStudents.Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I amnot able to interact with other members of this Group very often, forwhich I hope they will pardon me.GOOD LUCKKpk3010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 DEAR TW853, I CLEARLY UNDERSTND YOUR PROBLEM AND YOUR EAGERNESS TO ARRIVE AT AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. UNFORTUNATELY, AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEGE GOWS, THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION. IN THIS CONNECTION KINDLY SEE THE EXTRACT OF THE MAIL SENT BY ME TO MR.RANGARAJAN, RECENTLY. GOOD LUCK kpk3010 EXTRACT. Before concluding I would like to draw your kind attention to the writing of Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary, a copy of which I have already sent. I have also seen that this write up has been discussed in the KP Groups, two or three times and tw has already mentioned about it. From that writing one thing is clear viz., we are yet to understand and decide the mode of recording the correct time of birth, i.e., whether it is - i) when the child breaths first (when this happens, no one knows as clearly pointed out by Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary) ii) when the child's head appears from the womb of the Mother, iii) when the child cries first and iv) when the umbilical cord is cut and Mother and Child is separated. Under these conditions I am afraid all are in a wild goose chase only and anybody can apply any rule that works for him at all times. But the question is whether the same rule helps others also who are in such situations. Perhaps not. For this there may be umpteen reasons and causes which cannot be defined. But in my opinion, before taking any chart, Pray to GURUJI, follow GURUJI'S methods fully and He will come to your help. GOOD LUCK K.P.KUPPU GANAPATHI. , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear kpk3010, > > 1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions > of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for > practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha > since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha. > > 2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly > share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP > test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or > disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran > and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner > Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my > Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I > > find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the > principle > > of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > > JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > > > > WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are > > the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the > > labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious > stones, > > jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them > > due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful > before > > trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the > > procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience > as a > > practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) > > after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under > the > > LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > > > > Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or > > from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and > beg > > for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are > > alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and > > mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce > > results. > > > > Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and > correctly. > > This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot > understand > > anything in life. > > > > Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be > anything > > like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is > necessary > > because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give > > results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be > > asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what > am > > I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought > into > > this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father > > and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > > > > Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING > > period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the > > Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day > > you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the > > Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the > > Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into > account > > Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the > year > > and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you > cannot > > wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for > working. > > Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per > day > > and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of > the > > Chart. > > > > After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out > the > > RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are > > going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take > only > > the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > > Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord > and > > finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, > > it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from > > Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place > you > > are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this > > exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of > > the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any > > Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. > > > > The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING > > PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as > > RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., > > those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are > > occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being > > strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept > separately > > as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they > > are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should > be > > taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and > > similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and > Secondary. > > In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. > > > > After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by > > positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the > > type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct > result, > > go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for > > which you have invoked the RPs. > > > > In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) > > removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative > > houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs > that > > are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) > > RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are > > occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should > be > > followed. > > > > I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following > > all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should > > share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP > > Students. > > > > Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I > am > > not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, > for > > which I hope they will pardon me. > > > > GOOD LUCK > > Kpk3010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 DEAR MR.KANAKJI, I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT " favourable period " . IN THE EXTRACT OF MY POSTILNGS WHICH YOU HAVE QUOTED, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE ABOUT " favourable period " . BUT I HAVE MENTIONED ONLY ABOUT " favourable positions " . YOU MAY PERHAPS AGREE THAT BOTH THESE TWO TERMS DENOTE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEREFORE KINDLY PUT YOUR QUESTION IN A MORE PRECISE AND CLEAR MANNER SO THAT I CAN FIRST UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER IT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. GOOD LUCK kpk3010 , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 DEAR MR.LAJMI, THANK YOUR VERY MUCH FOR THE MESSAGE. GOOD LUCK kpk3010 In , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Mr.Kuppu Ganapathi, > Thank you for your detailed explanation... > With highest regards, > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > kpk3010 <kpk3010> wrote: > Dear Members, > I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I > find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principle > of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > > WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are > the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the > labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones, > jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them > due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful before > trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the > procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as a > practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) > after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under the > LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > > Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or > from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and beg > for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are > alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and > mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce > results. > > Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly. > This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understand > anything in life. > > Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anything > like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessary > because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give > results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be > asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what am > I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought into > this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father > and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > > Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING > period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the > Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day > you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the > Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the > Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account > Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year > and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot > wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working. > Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day > and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the > Chart. > > After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out the > RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are > going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take only > the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord and > finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, > it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from > Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place you > are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this > exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of > the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any > Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. > > The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING > PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as > RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., > those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are > occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being > strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separately > as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they > are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should be > taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and > similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary. > In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. > > After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by > positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the > type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result, > go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for > which you have invoked the RPs. > > In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) > removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative > houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs that > are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) > RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are > occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should be > followed. > > I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following > all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should > share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP > Students. > > Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I am > not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, for > which I hope they will pardon me. > > GOOD LUCK > Kpk3010 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Dera Kuppu ji, You have mention in mail : "Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNINGperiod Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and theAscendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the dayyou are working out the chart." How can astrologer check this? regards kanak>"kpk3010" <kpk3010> > > Re: ABOUT RULING PLANETS>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:31:42 -0000>>DEAR MR.KANAKJI,>I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT>"favourable period". IN THE EXTRACT OF MY POSTILNGS WHICH YOU HAVE>QUOTED, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE ABOUT "favourable period". BUT I>HAVE MENTIONED ONLY ABOUT "favourable positions". YOU MAY PERHAPS>AGREE THAT BOTH THESE TWO TERMS DENOTE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEREFORE>KINDLY PUT YOUR QUESTION IN A MORE PRECISE AND CLEAR MANNER SO THAT I>CAN FIRST UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER IT TO THE BEST>OF MY ABILITY.>GOOD LUCK>kpk3010>>>>>>>>>>>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>>>> Meet FREE Music: Get 5 FREE songs when you buy 1 song at music.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Dear Shri Ganapathi, 1. Thank you very much for your kindness in sharing of your wide knowledge and deep experience with a valuable advice in a very wise way as a rare KP astrologer with qualities of Guruji KSK's wishes. " ……What we want is research for truth: Open mind to investigate…… " " (He) who is honest, who is sincerely devoted to God, who does not speak ill of others…It is Divine Grace. " It helps a lot to make clear of my finding in building up the case, if necessary, to hit the nail right on the head. 2. Le me take this opprtunity to express my sincere gratitude to you for giving me a chance to practically learn the application of Western aspects in KP from your articles in KP Year Books, including old issues thanks to Hasmukhrai J Mehta http://www.astroclinica.com. With highest regards, Tin Win , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote: > DEAR TW853, > I CLEARLY UNDERSTND YOUR PROBLEM AND YOUR EAGERNESS TO ARRIVE AT AN > ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. UNFORTUNATELY, AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEGE GOWS, THERE > IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION. IN THIS CONNECTION KINDLY SEE THE EXTRACT > OF THE MAIL SENT BY ME TO MR.RANGARAJAN, RECENTLY. > GOOD LUCK > kpk3010 > > EXTRACT. > > Before concluding I would like to draw your kind attention to the > writing of Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary, a copy of which I have already > sent. I have also seen that this write up has been discussed in the KP > Groups, two or three times and tw has already mentioned about it. From > that writing one thing is clear viz., we are yet to understand and > decide the mode of recording the correct time of birth, i.e., whether > it is - i) when the child breaths first (when this happens, no one > knows as clearly pointed out by Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary) ii) when > the child's head appears from the womb of the Mother, iii) when the > child cries first and iv) when the umbilical cord is cut and Mother > and Child is separated. Under these conditions I am afraid all are in > a wild goose chase only and anybody can apply any rule that works for > him at all times. But the question is whether the same rule helps > others also who are in such situations. Perhaps not. For this there > may be umpteen reasons and causes which cannot be defined. But in my > opinion, before taking any chart, Pray to GURUJI, follow GURUJI'S > methods fully and He will come to your help. > GOOD LUCK > K.P.KUPPU GANAPATHI. > > > > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear kpk3010, > > > > 1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions > > of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for > > practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha > > since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha. > > > > 2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly > > share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP > > test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or > > disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran > > and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner > > Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my > > Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > > I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I > > > find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the > > principle > > > of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > > > JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > > > > > > WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are > > > the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the > > > labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious > > stones, > > > jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them > > > due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful > > before > > > trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the > > > procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience > > as a > > > practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) > > > after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under > > the > > > LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > > > > > > Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or > > > from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and > > beg > > > for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are > > > alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and > > > mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce > > > results. > > > > > > Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and > > correctly. > > > This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot > > understand > > > anything in life. > > > > > > Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be > > anything > > > like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is > > necessary > > > because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give > > > results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be > > > asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what > > am > > > I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought > > into > > > this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father > > > and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > > > > > > Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING > > > period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the > > > Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day > > > you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the > > > Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the > > > Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into > > account > > > Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the > > year > > > and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you > > cannot > > > wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for > > working. > > > Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per > > day > > > and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of > > the > > > Chart. > > > > > > After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out > > the > > > RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are > > > going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take > > only > > > the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > > > Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord > > and > > > finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, > > > it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from > > > Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place > > you > > > are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this > > > exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of > > > the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any > > > Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. > > > > > > The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING > > > PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as > > > RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., > > > those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are > > > occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being > > > strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept > > separately > > > as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they > > > are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should > > be > > > taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and > > > similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and > > Secondary. > > > In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. > > > > > > After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by > > > positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the > > > type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct > > result, > > > go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for > > > which you have invoked the RPs. > > > > > > In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) > > > removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative > > > houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs > > that > > > are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) > > > RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are > > > occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should > > be > > > followed. > > > > > > I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following > > > all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should > > > share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP > > > Students. > > > > > > Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I > > am > > > not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, > > for > > > which I hope they will pardon me. > > > > > > GOOD LUCK > > > Kpk3010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Dear tw, I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a difference which most Christians - including clergy - do not appear to understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda made this perfectly clear in his Autobiography. If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will find anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is a sin. This is a fiction that most people who call themselves 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of 'everything is a sin which I don't understand'. If you think I am being hard on Christians I would like to explain that I am a regular church going 'Christian', but with some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to understand. In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' The Sleeping Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven success, he says that astrology was a major part of the curriculum for Jesus in his days as a student. Ron Gaunt On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: >Dear kpk3010, > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for >practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha. > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly >share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > >Thanks and regards, > >tw > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote: >> Dear Members, >> I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I >> find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the >principle >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. >> >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious >stones, >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful >before >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience >as a >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under >the >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. >> >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and >beg >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and >> mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce >> results. >> >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and >correctly. >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot >understand >> anything in life. >> >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be >anything >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is >necessary >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give >> results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what >am >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought >into >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. >> >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day >> you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into >account >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the >year >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you >cannot >> wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for >working. >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per >day >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of >the >> Chart. >> >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out >the >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take >only >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord >and >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place >you >> are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this >> exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of >> the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any >> Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. >> >> The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING >> PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as >> RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., >> those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are >> occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being >> strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept >separately >> as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they >> are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should >be >> taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and >> similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and >Secondary. >> In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. >> >> After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by >> positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the >> type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct >result, >> go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for >> which you have invoked the RPs. >> >> In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) >> removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative >> houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs >that >> are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) >> RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are >> occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should >be >> followed. >> >> I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following >> all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should >> share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP >> Students. >> >> Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I >am >> not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, >for >> which I hope they will pardon me. >> >> GOOD LUCK >> Kpk3010 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Shri K.P.Kuppu Ganapati, Your reply to Kanak,"rang a bell' in my mind... I remember,during one of his lectures,years ago,Guruji had cautioned students, that if the star ruling on the day is the significator of your(the astrologer's) VIII th, the prediction is very likely to go wrong...? ! Hence he advised that the chart be taken up on some other day... Sir, could you please elaborate ? This seems to have slipped my mind...it is very careless of me to forget such an extremely valuable tip... I shall be ever grateful to you...Sir... Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote: Dera Kuppu ji, You have mention in mail : "Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNINGperiod Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and theAscendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the dayyou are working out the chart." How can astrologer check this? regards kanak>"kpk3010" <kpk3010> > > Re: ABOUT RULING PLANETS>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:31:42 -0000>>DEAR MR.KANAKJI,>I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT>"favourable period". IN THE EXTRACT OF MY POSTILNGS WHICH YOU HAVE>QUOTED, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE ABOUT "favourable period". BUT I>HAVE MENTIONED ONLY ABOUT "favourable positions". YOU MAY PERHAPS>AGREE THAT BOTH THESE TWO TERMS DENOTE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEREFORE>KINDLY PUT YOUR QUESTION IN A MORE PRECISE AND CLEAR MANNER SO THAT I>CAN FIRST UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER IT TO THE BEST>OF MY ABILITY.>GOOD LUCK>kpk3010>>>>>>>>>>>>--- In , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>>>> Meet FREE Music: Get 5 FREE songs when you buy 1 song at music.msn.com Too much spam in your inbox? Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE!http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dear Ron, My understanding is from Polish and other roman catholics that I'm sure you're not. Regards, tw -- In , " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Dear tw, > > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a difference > which most Christians - including clergy - do not appear to > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda made this > perfectly clear in his Autobiography. > > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will find > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is a sin. > This is a fiction that most people who call themselves > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of 'everything > is a sin which I don't understand'. > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would like to > explain that I am a regular church going 'Christian', but with > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to understand. > > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' The Sleeping > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven success, he says > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum for Jesus in > his days as a student. > > > Ron Gaunt On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: > > >Dear kpk3010, > > > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha. > > > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly > >share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > > > >Thanks and regards, > > > >tw > > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote: > >> Dear Members, > >> I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I > >> find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the > >principle > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious > >stones, > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful > >before > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience > >as a > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years) > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under > >the > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and > >beg > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and > >> mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce > >> results. > >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and > >correctly. > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot > >understand > >> anything in life. > >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be > >anything > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is > >necessary > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give > >> results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what > >am > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought > >into > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into > >account > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the > >year > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you > >cannot > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for > >working. > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per > >day > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of > >the > >> Chart. > >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out > >the > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take > >only > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord > >and > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day, > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place > >you > >> are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this > >> exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of > >> the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any > >> Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. > >> > >> The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING > >> PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as > >> RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs., > >> those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are > >> occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being > >> strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept > >separately > >> as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they > >> are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should > >be > >> taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and > >> similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and > >Secondary. > >> In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs. > >> > >> After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by > >> positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the > >> type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct > >result, > >> go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for > >> which you have invoked the RPs. > >> > >> In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i) > >> removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative > >> houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs > >that > >> are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv) > >> RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are > >> occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should > >be > >> followed. > >> > >> I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following > >> all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should > >> share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP > >> Students. > >> > >> Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I > >am > >> not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, > >for > >> which I hope they will pardon me. > >> > >> GOOD LUCK > >> Kpk3010 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dear Ron, Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met told that " looking into future " is not permitted in Christian religion and so I also believed it to be so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many Christian friends in India. With regards, Sunil D.Joshi. --- " rongaunt au " <rongaunt wrote: > > Dear tw, > > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a > difference > which most Christians - including clergy - do not > appear to > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda > made this > perfectly clear in his Autobiography. > > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will > find > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is > a sin. > This is a fiction that most people who call > themselves > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of > 'everything > is a sin which I don't understand'. > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would > like to > explain that I am a regular church going > 'Christian', but with > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to > understand. > > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' > The Sleeping > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven > success, he says > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum > for Jesus in > his days as a student. > > > Ron Gaunt On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: > > >Dear kpk3010, > > > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. > Crucial assumptions > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. > But blessing for > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from > Christ and Buddha > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and > prohibited by Buddha. > > > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like > me, could you kindly > >share your results of practiacal experience of > doing a " repaeated RP > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " > which may agree or > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS > experienced by K. Baskaran > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young > brilliant KP learner > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory > (Ref. im my > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > > > >Thanks and regards, > > > >tw > > > > , " kpk3010 " > <kpk3010> wrote: > >> Dear Members, > >> I have been closely following all the postings in > this Group and I > >> find that many are struggling to understand the > usage of the > >principle > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere > Planets but they are > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP > followers out of the > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where > several precious > >stones, > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but > cannot be seen by them > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should > be very careful > >before > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. > Then what is the > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed > by my experience > >as a > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a > century (50 years) > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly > by sitting under > >the > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict > on a Birth Chart or > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, > concentrate deeply and > >beg > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND > MOTHER) whether they are > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave > you this body and > >> mind through which your intellect works on any > subject and produce > >> results. > >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you > properly and > >correctly. > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher > you cannot > >understand > >> anything in life. > >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING > DEITY) it may be > >anything > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., > etc., This is > >necessary > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament > by THEM to give > >> results based on their position in the Chart. > Here a question may be > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF > ANY GOD " , what > >am > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that > you are brought > >into > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such > persons, their Father > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out > whether the RUNNING > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and > Sookshma, Moon and the > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position > for you on the day > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more > importance to the > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you > are taking up the > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have > not taken into > >account > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. > Jupiter indicates the > >year > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving > Planet and you > >cannot > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up > the Chart for > >working. > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves > only a degree per > >day > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up > the examination of > >the > >> Chart. > >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, > you should work out > >the > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your > heart since they are > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first > you should take > >only > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, > Moon's Sign Lord > >and > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the > Indian System of Day, > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. > Otherwise, it should be from > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the > Seconds, at the place > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dear Sunil, Just as many Hindus know very little of what is written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages... This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our religious books... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80 wrote: Dear Ron,Thanks for clarification.But even I have similarexperience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I mettold that "looking into future" is not permitted inChristian religion and so I also believed it to beso(of course without reading Bible which I feel was mymistake) I will try to clarify this to my manyChristian friends in India.With regards,Sunil D.Joshi.--- "rongaunt au"<rongaunt wrote:> > Dear tw,> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a> difference> which most Christians - including clergy - do not> appear to> understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda> made this> perfectly clear in his Autobiography.> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will> find> anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is> a sin.> This is a fiction that most people who call> themselves> 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of> 'everything> is a sin which I don't understand'.> If you think I am being hard on Christians I would> like to> explain that I am a regular church going> 'Christian', but with > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to> understand.> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '> The Sleeping > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven> success, he says> that astrology was a major part of the curriculum> for Jesus in> his days as a student.> > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:> > >Dear kpk3010,> >> >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.> Crucial assumptions > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.> But blessing for > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from> Christ and Buddha > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and> prohibited by Buddha.> >> >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like> me, could you kindly > >share your results of practiacal experience of> doing a "repaeated RP > >test" for rectification of "the same birth data"> which may agree or > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS> experienced by K. Baskaran > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young> brilliant KP learner > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory> (Ref. im my > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).> >> >Thanks and regards,> >> >tw> >> > , "kpk3010"> <kpk3010> wrote:> >> Dear Members,> >> I have been closely following all the postings in> this Group and I> >> find that many are struggling to understand the> usage of the > >principle> >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT> GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,> >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI> K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.> >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere> Planets but they are> >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP> followers out of the> >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where> several precious > >stones,> >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but> cannot be seen by them> >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should> be very careful > >before> >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.> Then what is the> >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed> by my experience > >as a> >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a> century (50 years)> >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly> by sitting under > >the> >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.> >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict> on a Birth Chart or> >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,> concentrate deeply and > >beg> >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND> MOTHER) whether they are> >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave> you this body and> >> mind through which your intellect works on any> subject and produce> >> results.> >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you> properly and > >correctly.> >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher> you cannot > >understand> >> anything in life.> >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING> DEITY) it may be > >anything> >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,> etc., This is > >necessary> >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament> by THEM to give> >> results based on their position in the Chart.> Here a question may be> >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF> ANY GOD " , what > >am> >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that> you are brought > >into> >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such> persons, their Father> >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out> whether the RUNNING> >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and> Sookshma, Moon and the> >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position> for you on the day> >> you are working out the chart. Here give more> importance to the> >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you> are taking up the> >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have> not taken into > >account> >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.> Jupiter indicates the > >year> >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving> Planet and you > >cannot> >> wait for another Year to come before taking up> the Chart for > >working.> >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves> only a degree per > >day> >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up> the examination of > >the> >> Chart.> >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,> you should work out > >the> >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your> heart since they are> >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first> you should take > >only> >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT> GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant> >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,> Moon's Sign Lord > >and> >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the> Indian System of Day,> >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.> Otherwise, it should be from> >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the> Seconds, at the place > === message truncated === Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Mail: http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Dear Sunil, I think one needs to look into how this mistaken belief took root. In the Old Testament there is an injunction to the Israelites that they should not concern themselves with the future. One reason for this may have been that right from the exodus from Egypt they had leaders who 'knew' what to do in all important circumstances. If this knowledge was not obtained by divine revelation ie to Moses, it was obtained by divination by the priests. They had a special tunic created which was called the 'Priest's Breastplate of Judgement'. Into this breastplate was placed what was called 'urim and thummim'. These were stones that were cast to give answers to questions asked by the high priest. In other words it wasn't that divination was looked at as being evil; it was simply the prerogative of the ruling class and not available to the rank and file; who if they used divination might obtain different answers to the ruling class and cause division, at a time when national unity was essential. In fact in the Old Testament it clearly states that the Israelites may not use divination, but people of other nations may use it. Whenever, my Christian friends try to tell me that divination is evil,I point out that if this is the case why is it practiced by the Chief Priests and other successful notables in the Old Testament?. When they ask me what I mean I mention the case of Joseph. Joseph was a man who was sold into slavery into Egypt by his brothers and being falsely accused was imprisoned. Later by using his psychic gifts he rose to become the most powerful man in Egypt after the Pharaoh. During a famine his brothers visited Egypt to buy grain. They didn't recognize their brother now the Chief Minister of the land, but he recognized them. After giving them grain he sent them on their way without revealing himself. But in order to see his younger brother and father who were not in the party he hid his favorites 'divining cup' in the grain. He then had his steward chase after them and accuse them of stealing it so as to make them return to him. On their return he asked them if they thought not that " such a man as I can divine? " . Without going into any greater detail, everything turns out well in the end as Joseph's father and all his family settle comfortably in Egypt. The point of all this is that a person highly thought of by both Jews and Christians used psychic gifts. Whilst nearly all Christians would know this story,I find none of them questioning their belief that scrying or divining is evil. In fact I used to attend a 'small group' (these are get togethers to study the bible) of Christians mainly consisting of people in the ministry. These were people from the bible college, deacons of the church, and translators of the bible into the New Guinea language. I was surprised to find that they seldom questioned anything. When I mentioned ideas (mainly picked up from Indian philosophy) they were amazed, initially offended, and later accepting as they came to realize that all might not be exactly as thought by the 'average' Christian. Ron Gaunt On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:05:32 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Dear Ron, >Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar >experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met >told that " looking into future " is not permitted in >Christian religion and so I also believed it to be >so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my >mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many >Christian friends in India. >With regards, >Sunil D.Joshi. > >--- " rongaunt au " ><rongaunt wrote: > >> >> Dear tw, >> >> I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a >> difference >> which most Christians - including clergy - do not >> appear to >> understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda >> made this >> perfectly clear in his Autobiography. >> >> If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will >> find >> anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is >> a sin. >> This is a fiction that most people who call >> themselves >> 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of >> 'everything >> is a sin which I don't understand'. >> If you think I am being hard on Christians I would >> like to >> explain that I am a regular church going >> 'Christian', but with >> some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to >> understand. >> >> In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' >> The Sleeping >> Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven >> success, he says >> that astrology was a major part of the curriculum >> for Jesus in >> his days as a student. >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: >> >> >Dear kpk3010, >> > >> >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. >> Crucial assumptions >> >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. >> But blessing for >> >practicing of astrology can't be expected from >> Christ and Buddha >> >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and >> prohibited by Buddha. >> > >> >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like >> me, could you kindly >> >share your results of practiacal experience of >> doing a " repaeated RP >> >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " >> which may agree or >> >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS >> experienced by K. Baskaran >> >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young >> brilliant KP learner >> >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory >> (Ref. im my >> >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). >> > >> >Thanks and regards, >> > >> >tw >> > >> > , " kpk3010 " >> <kpk3010> wrote: >> >> Dear Members, >> >> I have been closely following all the postings in >> this Group and I >> >> find that many are struggling to understand the >> usage of the >> >principle >> >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT >> GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, >> >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI >> K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. >> >> >> >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere >> Planets but they are >> >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP >> followers out of the >> >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where >> several precious >> >stones, >> >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but >> cannot be seen by them >> >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should >> be very careful >> >before >> >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. >> Then what is the >> >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed >> by my experience >> >as a >> >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a >> century (50 years) >> >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly >> by sitting under >> >the >> >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. >> >> >> >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict >> on a Birth Chart or >> >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, >> concentrate deeply and >> >beg >> >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND >> MOTHER) whether they are >> >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave >> you this body and >> >> mind through which your intellect works on any >> subject and produce >> >> results. >> >> >> >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you >> properly and >> >correctly. >> >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher >> you cannot >> >understand >> >> anything in life. >> >> >> >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING >> DEITY) it may be >> >anything >> >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., >> etc., This is >> >necessary >> >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament >> by THEM to give >> >> results based on their position in the Chart. >> Here a question may be >> >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF >> ANY GOD " , what >> >am >> >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that >> you are brought >> >into >> >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such >> persons, their Father >> >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. >> >> >> >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out >> whether the RUNNING >> >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and >> Sookshma, Moon and the >> >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position >> for you on the day >> >> you are working out the chart. Here give more >> importance to the >> >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you >> are taking up the >> >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have >> not taken into >> >account >> >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. >> Jupiter indicates the >> >year >> >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving >> Planet and you >> >cannot >> >> wait for another Year to come before taking up >> the Chart for >> >working. >> >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves >> only a degree per >> >day >> >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up >> the examination of >> >the >> >> Chart. >> >> >> >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, >> you should work out >> >the >> >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your >> heart since they are >> >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first >> you should take >> >only >> >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT >> GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant >> >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, >> Moon's Sign Lord >> >and >> >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the >> Indian System of Day, >> >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. >> Otherwise, it should be from >> >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the >> Seconds, at the place >> >=== message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Dear Sunil, My Polish Roman Catholic friends say that astrology is a form of fortunetelling that preempts the providence of God, Who alone knows the future, and refer--- 47:13 Thou hast failed in the multitude or thy counsels: let now the astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars, and counted the months, that from them they might tell the things that shall come to thee. 47:14 " Behold they are as stubble,... " and mention that Pope Sixtus V condemned astrology in 1586 and Pope Urban VIII condemned it in 1631. Regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Sunil, > Just as many Hindus know very little of what is written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages... > This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our religious books... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80> wrote: > Dear Ron, > Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar > experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met > told that " looking into future " is not permitted in > Christian religion and so I also believed it to be > so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my > mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many > Christian friends in India. > With regards, > Sunil D.Joshi. > > --- " rongaunt@b... au " > <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > > > > Dear tw, > > > > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a > > difference > > which most Christians - including clergy - do not > > appear to > > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda > > made this > > perfectly clear in his Autobiography. > > > > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will > > find > > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is > > a sin. > > This is a fiction that most people who call > > themselves > > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of > > 'everything > > is a sin which I don't understand'. > > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would > > like to > > explain that I am a regular church going > > 'Christian', but with > > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to > > understand. > > > > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' > > The Sleeping > > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven > > success, he says > > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum > > for Jesus in > > his days as a student. > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: > > > > >Dear kpk3010, > > > > > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. > > Crucial assumptions > > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. > > But blessing for > > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from > > Christ and Buddha > > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and > > prohibited by Buddha. > > > > > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like > > me, could you kindly > > >share your results of practiacal experience of > > doing a " repaeated RP > > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " > > which may agree or > > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS > > experienced by K. Baskaran > > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young > > brilliant KP learner > > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory > > (Ref. im my > > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > > > > > >Thanks and regards, > > > > > >tw > > > > > > , " kpk3010 " > > <kpk3010> wrote: > > >> Dear Members, > > >> I have been closely following all the postings in > > this Group and I > > >> find that many are struggling to understand the > > usage of the > > >principle > > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT > > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI > > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > > >> > > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere > > Planets but they are > > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP > > followers out of the > > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where > > several precious > > >stones, > > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but > > cannot be seen by them > > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should > > be very careful > > >before > > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. > > Then what is the > > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed > > by my experience > > >as a > > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a > > century (50 years) > > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly > > by sitting under > > >the > > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > > >> > > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict > > on a Birth Chart or > > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, > > concentrate deeply and > > >beg > > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND > > MOTHER) whether they are > > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave > > you this body and > > >> mind through which your intellect works on any > > subject and produce > > >> results. > > >> > > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you > > properly and > > >correctly. > > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher > > you cannot > > >understand > > >> anything in life. > > >> > > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING > > DEITY) it may be > > >anything > > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., > > etc., This is > > >necessary > > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament > > by THEM to give > > >> results based on their position in the Chart. > > Here a question may be > > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF > > ANY GOD " , what > > >am > > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that > > you are brought > > >into > > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such > > persons, their Father > > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > > >> > > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out > > whether the RUNNING > > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and > > Sookshma, Moon and the > > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position > > for you on the day > > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more > > importance to the > > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you > > are taking up the > > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have > > not taken into > > >account > > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. > > Jupiter indicates the > > >year > > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving > > Planet and you > > >cannot > > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up > > the Chart for > > >working. > > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves > > only a degree per > > >day > > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up > > the examination of > > >the > > >> Chart. > > >> > > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, > > you should work out > > >the > > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your > > heart since they are > > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first > > you should take > > >only > > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT > > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, > > Moon's Sign Lord > > >and > > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the > > Indian System of Day, > > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. > > Otherwise, it should be from > > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the > > Seconds, at the place > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Dear tw, Please see comments ** ................... ** Ron Gaunt On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:01:16 -0000, you wrote: >Dear Sunil, > > > My Polish Roman Catholic friends say that astrology is a form of >fortunetelling that preempts the providence of God, Who alone knows >the future, and refer--- > >47:13 Thou hast failed in the multitude or thy counsels: let now the >astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars, and >counted the months, that from them they might tell the things that >shall come to thee. ** This is the only saying that critics tend to quote because in reality there is nothing said against astrology in the bible. Even here the injunction is not against astrology so much as the inability of the astrologers to alter the course of events - which most astrologers would accept as valid. ** ** There are many oblique references to astrology in the bible which are not derogatory. ** > >47:14 " Behold they are as stubble,... " > >and mention that Pope Sixtus V condemned astrology in 1586 and Pope >Urban VIII condemned it in 1631. ** Just shows that even the elect can be mislead. Remember that Jesus referred to the clergy of his day as " the blind leading the blind " , and history tends to repeat itself. Anyone who studies the history of the Christian Church cannot but be horrified and offended by some of the practices of the ruling priestly class at times. The tortures of early heretics, and of the inquisition were more callous than anything the Romans did to the early Christians. At least they had a quick death. Unfortunately, Christianity throughout the ages has been hi-jacked by self seeking politicians, bureaucrats and administrators. The truth is there, but is hidden under the superstition and shallow thinking of people who never realize the fallibility of their leaders. This possibly applies to all religions. ** > >Regards, > >tw > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> >wrote: >> Dear Sunil, >> Just as many Hindus know very little of what is >written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims >do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in >Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages... >> This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my >humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our >religious books... >> Yours sincerely, >> lyrastro1 >> GOOD LUCK ! >> >> >> Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80> wrote: >> Dear Ron, >> Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar >> experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met >> told that " looking into future " is not permitted in >> Christian religion and so I also believed it to be >> so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my >> mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many >> Christian friends in India. >> With regards, >> Sunil D.Joshi. >> >> --- " rongaunt@b... au " >> <rongaunt@b...> wrote: >> >> > >> > Dear tw, >> > >> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a >> > difference >> > which most Christians - including clergy - do not >> > appear to >> > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda >> > made this >> > perfectly clear in his Autobiography. >> > >> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will >> > find >> > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is >> > a sin. >> > This is a fiction that most people who call >> > themselves >> > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of >> > 'everything >> > is a sin which I don't understand'. >> > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would >> > like to >> > explain that I am a regular church going >> > 'Christian', but with >> > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to >> > understand. >> > >> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' >> > The Sleeping >> > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven >> > success, he says >> > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum >> > for Jesus in >> > his days as a student. >> > >> > >> > Ron Gaunt >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: >> > >> > >Dear kpk3010, >> > > >> > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. >> > Crucial assumptions >> > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. >> > But blessing for >> > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from >> > Christ and Buddha >> > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and >> > prohibited by Buddha. >> > > >> > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like >> > me, could you kindly >> > >share your results of practiacal experience of >> > doing a " repaeated RP >> > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " >> > which may agree or >> > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS >> > experienced by K. Baskaran >> > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young >> > brilliant KP learner >> > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory >> > (Ref. im my >> > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). >> > > >> > >Thanks and regards, >> > > >> > >tw >> > > >> > > , " kpk3010 " >> > <kpk3010> wrote: >> > >> Dear Members, >> > >> I have been closely following all the postings in >> > this Group and I >> > >> find that many are struggling to understand the >> > usage of the >> > >principle >> > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT >> > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, >> > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI >> > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. >> > >> >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere >> > Planets but they are >> > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP >> > followers out of the >> > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where >> > several precious >> > >stones, >> > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but >> > cannot be seen by them >> > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should >> > be very careful >> > >before >> > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. >> > Then what is the >> > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed >> > by my experience >> > >as a >> > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a >> > century (50 years) >> > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly >> > by sitting under >> > >the >> > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. >> > >> >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict >> > on a Birth Chart or >> > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, >> > concentrate deeply and >> > >beg >> > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND >> > MOTHER) whether they are >> > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave >> > you this body and >> > >> mind through which your intellect works on any >> > subject and produce >> > >> results. >> > >> >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you >> > properly and >> > >correctly. >> > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher >> > you cannot >> > >understand >> > >> anything in life. >> > >> >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING >> > DEITY) it may be >> > >anything >> > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., >> > etc., This is >> > >necessary >> > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament >> > by THEM to give >> > >> results based on their position in the Chart. >> > Here a question may be >> > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF >> > ANY GOD " , what >> > >am >> > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that >> > you are brought >> > >into >> > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such >> > persons, their Father >> > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. >> > >> >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out >> > whether the RUNNING >> > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and >> > Sookshma, Moon and the >> > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position >> > for you on the day >> > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more >> > importance to the >> > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you >> > are taking up the >> > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have >> > not taken into >> > >account >> > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. >> > Jupiter indicates the >> > >year >> > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving >> > Planet and you >> > >cannot >> > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up >> > the Chart for >> > >working. >> > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves >> > only a degree per >> > >day >> > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up >> > the examination of >> > >the >> > >> Chart. >> > >> >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, >> > you should work out >> > >the >> > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your >> > heart since they are >> > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first >> > you should take >> > >only >> > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT >> > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant >> > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, >> > Moon's Sign Lord >> > >and >> > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the >> > Indian System of Day, >> > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. >> > Otherwise, it should be from >> > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the >> > Seconds, at the place >> > >> === message truncated === >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Dear Ron, Buddha, " Star-gazing, astrology, forecasting lucky or unlucky events by signs, prognosticating good or evil, all those are things forbidden. " Regards, tw , " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Dear tw, > > Please see comments ** ................... ** > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:01:16 -0000, you wrote: > > >Dear Sunil, > > > > > > My Polish Roman Catholic friends say that astrology is a form of > >fortunetelling that preempts the providence of God, Who alone knows > >the future, and refer--- > > > >47:13 Thou hast failed in the multitude or thy counsels: let now the > >astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars, and > >counted the months, that from them they might tell the things that > >shall come to thee. > > ** This is the only saying that critics tend to quote because in > reality there is nothing said against astrology in the > bible. Even here the injunction is not against astrology > so much as the inability of the astrologers to alter the > course of events - which most astrologers would accept as > valid. ** > > ** There are many oblique references to astrology in the bible > which are not derogatory. ** > > > > >47:14 " Behold they are as stubble,... " > > > >and mention that Pope Sixtus V condemned astrology in 1586 and Pope > >Urban VIII condemned it in 1631. > > ** Just shows that even the elect can be mislead. Remember that > Jesus referred to the clergy of his day as " the blind > leading the blind " , and history tends to repeat itself. > Anyone who studies the history of the Christian > Church cannot but be horrified and offended by some of the > practices of the ruling priestly class at times. The > tortures of early heretics, and of the inquisition were more > callous than anything the Romans did to the early > Christians. At least they had a quick death. > Unfortunately, Christianity throughout the ages has been > hi-jacked by self seeking politicians, bureaucrats and > administrators. The truth is there, but is hidden under > the superstition and shallow thinking of people who never > realize the fallibility of their leaders. This possibly > applies to all religions. ** > > > >Regards, > > > >tw > > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > >wrote: > >> Dear Sunil, > >> Just as many Hindus know very little of what is > >written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims > >do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in > >Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages... > >> This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my > >humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our > >religious books... > >> Yours sincerely, > >> lyrastro1 > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >> > >> > >> Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80> wrote: > >> Dear Ron, > >> Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar > >> experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met > >> told that " looking into future " is not permitted in > >> Christian religion and so I also believed it to be > >> so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my > >> mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many > >> Christian friends in India. > >> With regards, > >> Sunil D.Joshi. > >> > >> --- " rongaunt@b... au " > >> <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > Dear tw, > >> > > >> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a > >> > difference > >> > which most Christians - including clergy - do not > >> > appear to > >> > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda > >> > made this > >> > perfectly clear in his Autobiography. > >> > > >> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will > >> > find > >> > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is > >> > a sin. > >> > This is a fiction that most people who call > >> > themselves > >> > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of > >> > 'everything > >> > is a sin which I don't understand'. > >> > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would > >> > like to > >> > explain that I am a regular church going > >> > 'Christian', but with > >> > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to > >> > understand. > >> > > >> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' > >> > The Sleeping > >> > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven > >> > success, he says > >> > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum > >> > for Jesus in > >> > his days as a student. > >> > > >> > > >> > Ron Gaunt > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote: > >> > > >> > >Dear kpk3010, > >> > > > >> > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. > >> > Crucial assumptions > >> > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. > >> > But blessing for > >> > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from > >> > Christ and Buddha > >> > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and > >> > prohibited by Buddha. > >> > > > >> > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like > >> > me, could you kindly > >> > >share your results of practiacal experience of > >> > doing a " repaeated RP > >> > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " > >> > which may agree or > >> > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS > >> > experienced by K. Baskaran > >> > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young > >> > brilliant KP learner > >> > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory > >> > (Ref. im my > >> > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4). > >> > > > >> > >Thanks and regards, > >> > > > >> > >tw > >> > > > >> > > , " kpk3010 " > >> > <kpk3010> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Members, > >> > >> I have been closely following all the postings in > >> > this Group and I > >> > >> find that many are struggling to understand the > >> > usage of the > >> > >principle > >> > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT > >> > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND, > >> > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI > >> > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI. > >> > >> > >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere > >> > Planets but they are > >> > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP > >> > followers out of the > >> > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where > >> > several precious > >> > >stones, > >> > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but > >> > cannot be seen by them > >> > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should > >> > be very careful > >> > >before > >> > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. > >> > Then what is the > >> > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed > >> > by my experience > >> > >as a > >> > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a > >> > century (50 years) > >> > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly > >> > by sitting under > >> > >the > >> > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself. > >> > >> > >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict > >> > on a Birth Chart or > >> > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, > >> > concentrate deeply and > >> > >beg > >> > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND > >> > MOTHER) whether they are > >> > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave > >> > you this body and > >> > >> mind through which your intellect works on any > >> > subject and produce > >> > >> results. > >> > >> > >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you > >> > properly and > >> > >correctly. > >> > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher > >> > you cannot > >> > >understand > >> > >> anything in life. > >> > >> > >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING > >> > DEITY) it may be > >> > >anything > >> > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., > >> > etc., This is > >> > >necessary > >> > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament > >> > by THEM to give > >> > >> results based on their position in the Chart. > >> > Here a question may be > >> > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF > >> > ANY GOD " , what > >> > >am > >> > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that > >> > you are brought > >> > >into > >> > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such > >> > persons, their Father > >> > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > >> > >> > >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out > >> > whether the RUNNING > >> > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and > >> > Sookshma, Moon and the > >> > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position > >> > for you on the day > >> > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more > >> > importance to the > >> > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you > >> > are taking up the > >> > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have > >> > not taken into > >> > >account > >> > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. > >> > Jupiter indicates the > >> > >year > >> > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving > >> > Planet and you > >> > >cannot > >> > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up > >> > the Chart for > >> > >working. > >> > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves > >> > only a degree per > >> > >day > >> > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up > >> > the examination of > >> > >the > >> > >> Chart. > >> > >> > >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, > >> > you should work out > >> > >the > >> > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your > >> > heart since they are > >> > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first > >> > you should take > >> > >only > >> > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT > >> > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant > >> > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, > >> > Moon's Sign Lord > >> > >and > >> > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the > >> > Indian System of Day, > >> > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. > >> > Otherwise, it should be from > >> > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the > >> > Seconds, at the place > >> > > >> === message truncated === > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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