ABOUT RULING PLANETS

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I

find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principle

of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

 

WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are

the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones,

jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them

due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful before

trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as a

practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)

after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under the

LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

 

Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or

from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and beg

for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are

alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and

mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce

results.

 

Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly.

This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understand

anything in life.

 

Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anything

like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessary

because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be

asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what am

I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought into

this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father

and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

 

Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING

period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the

Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day

you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the

Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account

Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year

and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot

wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working.

Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day

and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the

Chart.

 

After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out the

RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are

going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take only

the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord and

finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,

it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from

Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place you

are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this

exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of

the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work.

 

The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING

PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as

RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,

those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being

strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separately

as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they

are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should be

taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and

similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary.

In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

 

After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by

positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the

type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result,

go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for

which you have invoked the RPs.

 

In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative

houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs that

are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)

RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are

occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should be

followed.

 

I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following

all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should

share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP

Students.

 

Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I am

not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, for

which I hope they will pardon me.

 

GOOD LUCK

Kpk3010

[Guest guest]

Dear kpk3010,

 

1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions

of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for

practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha

since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha.

 

2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly

share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP

test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or

disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran

and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner

Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my

Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

, " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I

> find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the

principle

> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

>

> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are

> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious

stones,

> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them

> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful

before

> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience

as a

> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)

> after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under

the

> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

>

> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or

> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and

beg

> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are

> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and

> mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce

> results.

>

> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and

correctly.

> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot

understand

> anything in life.

>

> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be

anything

> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is

necessary

> because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

> results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be

> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what

am

> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought

into

> this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father

> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

>

> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING

> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the

> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day

> you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the

> Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into

account

> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the

year

> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you

cannot

> wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for

working.

> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per

day

> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of

the

> Chart.

>

> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out

the

> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are

> going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take

only

> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord

and

> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,

> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from

> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place

you

> are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this

> exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of

> the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

> Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work.

>

> The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING

> PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as

> RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,

> those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

> occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being

> strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept

separately

> as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they

> are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should

be

> taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and

> similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and

Secondary.

> In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

>

> After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by

> positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the

> type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct

result,

> go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for

> which you have invoked the RPs.

>

> In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

> removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative

> houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs

that

> are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)

> RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are

> occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should

be

> followed.

>

> I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following

> all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should

> share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP

> Students.

>

> Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I

am

> not able to interact with other members of this Group very often,

for

> which I hope they will pardon me.

>

> GOOD LUCK

> Kpk3010

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

>Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING>period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the>Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day>you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the>Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the>Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account>Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year>and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot>wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working.>Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day>and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the>Chart.>

how to check favorable period ? please explain for benift for us.

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Kuppu Ganapathi,

Thank you for your detailed explanation...

With highest regards,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !kpk3010 <kpk3010 wrote:

Dear Members,I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and Ifind that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principleof RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they arethe POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of thelabyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones,jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by themdue to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful beforetrying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is theprocedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as apracticising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)after learning this Great Divine

Science directly by sitting under theLOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart orfrom a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and begfor the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they arealive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body andmind through which your intellect works on any subject and produceresults.Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly.This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understandanything in life.Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anythinglike, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessarybecause the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to giveresults based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may beasked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what amI

to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought intothis world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Fatherand Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNINGperiod Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and theAscendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the dayyou are working out the chart. Here give more importance to theAscendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up theChart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into accountJupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the yearand all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannotwait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working.Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per dayand we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of

theChart.After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out theRULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they aregoing to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take onlythe 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. AscendantStar Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord andfinally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be fromMidnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place youare examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in thisexercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness ofthe time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from anyScientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work. The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULINGPLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have

not figured directly asRPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which areoccupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are beingstrongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separatelyas SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if theyare conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should betaken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary andsimilarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary.In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on thetype of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result,go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose forwhich you have invoked the

RPs.In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negativehouses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs thatare in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that areoccupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should befollowed.I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by followingall the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I shouldshare the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KPStudents.Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I amnot able to interact with other members of this Group very often, forwhich I hope they will pardon me.GOOD LUCKKpk3010

 

 

[Guest guest]

DEAR TW853,

I CLEARLY UNDERSTND YOUR PROBLEM AND YOUR EAGERNESS TO ARRIVE AT AN

ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. UNFORTUNATELY, AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEGE GOWS, THERE

IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION. IN THIS CONNECTION KINDLY SEE THE EXTRACT

OF THE MAIL SENT BY ME TO MR.RANGARAJAN, RECENTLY.

GOOD LUCK

kpk3010

 

EXTRACT.

 

Before concluding I would like to draw your kind attention to the

writing of Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary, a copy of which I have already

sent. I have also seen that this write up has been discussed in the KP

Groups, two or three times and tw has already mentioned about it. From

that writing one thing is clear viz., we are yet to understand and

decide the mode of recording the correct time of birth, i.e., whether

it is - i) when the child breaths first (when this happens, no one

knows as clearly pointed out by Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary) ii) when

the child's head appears from the womb of the Mother, iii) when the

child cries first and iv) when the umbilical cord is cut and Mother

and Child is separated. Under these conditions I am afraid all are in

a wild goose chase only and anybody can apply any rule that works for

him at all times. But the question is whether the same rule helps

others also who are in such situations. Perhaps not. For this there

may be umpteen reasons and causes which cannot be defined. But in my

opinion, before taking any chart, Pray to GURUJI, follow GURUJI'S

methods fully and He will come to your help.

GOOD LUCK

K.P.KUPPU GANAPATHI.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> Dear kpk3010,

>

> 1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions

> of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for

> practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha

> since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha.

>

> 2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly

> share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP

> test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or

> disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran

> and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner

> Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my

> Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> > I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I

> > find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the

> principle

> > of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

> > JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

> >

> > WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are

> > the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

> > labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious

> stones,

> > jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them

> > due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful

> before

> > trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

> > procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience

> as a

> > practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)

> > after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under

> the

> > LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

> >

> > Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or

> > from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and

> beg

> > for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are

> > alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and

> > mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce

> > results.

> >

> > Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and

> correctly.

> > This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot

> understand

> > anything in life.

> >

> > Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be

> anything

> > like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is

> necessary

> > because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

> > results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be

> > asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what

> am

> > I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought

> into

> > this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father

> > and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

> >

> > Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING

> > period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the

> > Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day

> > you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

> > Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the

> > Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into

> account

> > Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the

> year

> > and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you

> cannot

> > wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for

> working.

> > Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per

> day

> > and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of

> the

> > Chart.

> >

> > After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out

> the

> > RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are

> > going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take

> only

> > the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

> > Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord

> and

> > finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,

> > it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from

> > Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place

> you

> > are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this

> > exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of

> > the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

> > Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work.

> >

> > The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING

> > PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as

> > RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,

> > those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

> > occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being

> > strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept

> separately

> > as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they

> > are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should

> be

> > taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and

> > similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and

> Secondary.

> > In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

> >

> > After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by

> > positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the

> > type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct

> result,

> > go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for

> > which you have invoked the RPs.

> >

> > In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

> > removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative

> > houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs

> that

> > are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)

> > RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are

> > occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should

> be

> > followed.

> >

> > I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following

> > all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should

> > share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP

> > Students.

> >

> > Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I

> am

> > not able to interact with other members of this Group very often,

> for

> > which I hope they will pardon me.

> >

> > GOOD LUCK

> > Kpk3010

[Guest guest]

DEAR MR.KANAKJI,

I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT

" favourable period " . IN THE EXTRACT OF MY POSTILNGS WHICH YOU HAVE

QUOTED, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE ABOUT " favourable period " . BUT I

HAVE MENTIONED ONLY ABOUT " favourable positions " . YOU MAY PERHAPS

AGREE THAT BOTH THESE TWO TERMS DENOTE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEREFORE

KINDLY PUT YOUR QUESTION IN A MORE PRECISE AND CLEAR MANNER SO THAT I

CAN FIRST UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER IT TO THE BEST

OF MY ABILITY.

GOOD LUCK

kpk3010

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

DEAR MR.LAJMI,

THANK YOUR VERY MUCH FOR THE MESSAGE.

GOOD LUCK

kpk3010

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> Dear Mr.Kuppu Ganapathi,

> Thank you for your detailed

explanation...

> With highest regards,

> Yours sincerely,

> L.Y.Rao.

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> kpk3010 <kpk3010> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I

> find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the principle

> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

>

> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are

> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious stones,

> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them

> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful before

> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience as a

> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)

> after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under the

> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

>

> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or

> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and beg

> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are

> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and

> mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce

> results.

>

> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and correctly.

> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot understand

> anything in life.

>

> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be anything

> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is necessary

> because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

> results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be

> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what am

> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought into

> this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father

> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

>

> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING

> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the

> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day

> you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the

> Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into account

> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the year

> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you cannot

> wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for working.

> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per day

> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of the

> Chart.

>

> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out the

> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are

> going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take only

> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord and

> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,

> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from

> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place you

> are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this

> exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of

> the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

> Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work.

>

> The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING

> PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as

> RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,

> those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

> occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being

> strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept separately

> as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they

> are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should be

> taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and

> similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and Secondary.

> In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

>

> After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by

> positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the

> type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct result,

> go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for

> which you have invoked the RPs.

>

> In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

> removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative

> houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs that

> are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)

> RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are

> occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should be

> followed.

>

> I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following

> all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should

> share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP

> Students.

>

> Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I am

> not able to interact with other members of this Group very often, for

> which I hope they will pardon me.

>

> GOOD LUCK

> Kpk3010

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

[Guest guest]

Dera Kuppu ji,

You have mention in mail :

"Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNINGperiod Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and theAscendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the dayyou are working out the chart."

How can astrologer check this?

 

regards

kanak>"kpk3010" <kpk3010> > > Re: ABOUT RULING PLANETS>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:31:42 -0000>>DEAR MR.KANAKJI,>I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT>"favourable period". IN THE EXTRACT OF MY POSTILNGS WHICH YOU HAVE>QUOTED, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE ABOUT "favourable period". BUT I>HAVE MENTIONED ONLY ABOUT "favourable positions". YOU MAY PERHAPS>AGREE THAT BOTH THESE TWO TERMS DENOTE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEREFORE>KINDLY PUT YOUR QUESTION IN A MORE PRECISE AND CLEAR MANNER SO THAT I>CAN FIRST UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER IT TO THE BEST>OF MY ABILITY.>GOOD LUCK>kpk3010>>>>>>>>>>>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>>>> Meet FREE Music: Get 5 FREE songs when you buy 1 song at music.msn.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Ganapathi,

 

1. Thank you very much for your kindness in sharing of your wide

knowledge and deep experience with a valuable advice in a very wise

way as a rare KP astrologer with qualities of Guruji KSK's

wishes. " ……What we want is research for truth: Open mind to

investigate…… " " (He) who is honest, who is sincerely devoted to God,

who does not speak ill of others…It is Divine Grace. " It helps a lot

to make clear of my finding in building up the case, if necessary, to

hit the nail right on the head.

 

2. Le me take this opprtunity to express my sincere gratitude to you

for giving me a chance to practically learn the application of

Western aspects in KP from your articles in KP Year Books, including

old issues thanks to Hasmukhrai J Mehta http://www.astroclinica.com.

 

 

With highest regards,

Tin Win

 

 

 

, " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> DEAR TW853,

> I CLEARLY UNDERSTND YOUR PROBLEM AND YOUR EAGERNESS TO ARRIVE AT AN

> ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. UNFORTUNATELY, AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEGE GOWS,

THERE

> IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION. IN THIS CONNECTION KINDLY SEE THE

EXTRACT

> OF THE MAIL SENT BY ME TO MR.RANGARAJAN, RECENTLY.

> GOOD LUCK

> kpk3010

>

> EXTRACT.

>

> Before concluding I would like to draw your kind attention to the

> writing of Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary, a copy of which I have already

> sent. I have also seen that this write up has been discussed in the

KP

> Groups, two or three times and tw has already mentioned about it.

From

> that writing one thing is clear viz., we are yet to understand and

> decide the mode of recording the correct time of birth, i.e.,

whether

> it is - i) when the child breaths first (when this happens, no one

> knows as clearly pointed out by Dr.Satyaprakash Choudhary) ii) when

> the child's head appears from the womb of the Mother, iii) when the

> child cries first and iv) when the umbilical cord is cut and Mother

> and Child is separated. Under these conditions I am afraid all are

in

> a wild goose chase only and anybody can apply any rule that works

for

> him at all times. But the question is whether the same rule helps

> others also who are in such situations. Perhaps not. For this there

> may be umpteen reasons and causes which cannot be defined. But in my

> opinion, before taking any chart, Pray to GURUJI, follow GURUJI'S

> methods fully and He will come to your help.

> GOOD LUCK

> K.P.KUPPU GANAPATHI.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> > Dear kpk3010,

> >

> > 1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial

assumptions

> > of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing

for

> > practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha

> > since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by

Buddha.

> >

> > 2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you

kindly

> > share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated

RP

> > test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree

or

> > disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K.

Baskaran

> > and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP

learner

> > Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my

> > Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> > > Dear Members,

> > > I have been closely following all the postings in this Group

and I

> > > find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the

> > principle

> > > of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH

MARTHAND,

> > > JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

> > >

> > > WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but

they are

> > > the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

> > > labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious

> > stones,

> > > jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by

them

> > > due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful

> > before

> > > trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

> > > procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my

experience

> > as a

> > > practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50

years)

> > > after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting

under

> > the

> > > LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

> > >

> > > Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth

Chart or

> > > from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply

and

> > beg

> > > for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they

are

> > > alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body

and

> > > mind through which your intellect works on any subject and

produce

> > > results.

> > >

> > > Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and

> > correctly.

> > > This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot

> > understand

> > > anything in life.

> > >

> > > Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be

> > anything

> > > like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is

> > necessary

> > > because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

> > > results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question

may be

> > > asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " ,

what

> > am

> > > I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are

brought

> > into

> > > this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their

Father

> > > and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

> > >

> > > Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the

RUNNING

> > > period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and

the

> > > Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on

the day

> > > you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

> > > Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up

the

> > > Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into

> > account

> > > Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates

the

> > year

> > > and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you

> > cannot

> > > wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for

> > working.

> > > Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree

per

> > day

> > > and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination

of

> > the

> > > Chart.

> > >

> > > After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work

out

> > the

> > > RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they

are

> > > going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should

take

> > only

> > > the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,.

Ascendant

> > > Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign

Lord

> > and

> > > finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of

Day,

> > > it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be

from

> > > Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the

place

> > you

> > > are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in

this

> > > exercise you should give greatest importance for the

correctness of

> > > the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

> > > Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their

work.

> > >

> > > The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY

RULING

> > > PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured

directly as

> > > RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of

RPs.,

> > > those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

> > > occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are

being

> > > strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept

> > separately

> > > as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if

they

> > > are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they

should

> > be

> > > taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary

and

> > > similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and

> > Secondary.

> > > In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

> > >

> > > After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first

by

> > > positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending

on the

> > > type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct

> > result,

> > > go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose

for

> > > which you have invoked the RPs.

> > >

> > > In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

> > > removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the

negative

> > > houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii)

RPs

> > that

> > > are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses

(iv)

> > > RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that

are

> > > occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement,

should

> > be

> > > followed.

> > >

> > > I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by

following

> > > all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I

should

> > > share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and

KP

> > > Students.

> > >

> > > Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients

etc., I

> > am

> > > not able to interact with other members of this Group very

often,

> > for

> > > which I hope they will pardon me.

> > >

> > > GOOD LUCK

> > > Kpk3010

[Guest guest]

Dear tw,

 

I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a difference

which most Christians - including clergy - do not appear to

understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda made this

perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

 

If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will find

anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is a sin.

This is a fiction that most people who call themselves

'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of 'everything

is a sin which I don't understand'.

If you think I am being hard on Christians I would like to

explain that I am a regular church going 'Christian', but with

some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to understand.

 

In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' The Sleeping

Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven success, he says

that astrology was a major part of the curriculum for Jesus in

his days as a student.

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

 

>Dear kpk3010,

>

>1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial assumptions

>of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing for

>practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha

>since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by Buddha.

>

>2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you kindly

>share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated RP

>test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree or

>disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K. Baskaran

>and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP learner

>Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my

>Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

>

>Thanks and regards,

>

>tw

>

> , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have been closely following all the postings in this Group and I

>> find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the

>principle

>> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

>> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

>>

>> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but they are

>> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

>> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious

>stones,

>> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by them

>> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful

>before

>> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

>> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my experience

>as a

>> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50 years)

>> after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting under

>the

>> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

>>

>> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth Chart or

>> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply and

>beg

>> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they are

>> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body and

>> mind through which your intellect works on any subject and produce

>> results.

>>

>> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and

>correctly.

>> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot

>understand

>> anything in life.

>>

>> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be

>anything

>> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is

>necessary

>> because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

>> results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question may be

>> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " , what

>am

>> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are brought

>into

>> this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their Father

>> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

>>

>> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNING

>> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and the

>> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the day

>> you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

>> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up the

>> Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into

>account

>> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates the

>year

>> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you

>cannot

>> wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for

>working.

>> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree per

>day

>> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination of

>the

>> Chart.

>>

>> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work out

>the

>> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they are

>> going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should take

>only

>> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

>> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign Lord

>and

>> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of Day,

>> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be from

>> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the place

>you

>> are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in this

>> exercise you should give greatest importance for the correctness of

>> the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

>> Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their work.

>>

>> The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY RULING

>> PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured directly as

>> RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of RPs.,

>> those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

>> occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are being

>> strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept

>separately

>> as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if they

>> are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they should

>be

>> taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary and

>> similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and

>Secondary.

>> In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

>>

>> After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first by

>> positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending on the

>> type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct

>result,

>> go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose for

>> which you have invoked the RPs.

>>

>> In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

>> removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the negative

>> houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii) RPs

>that

>> are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses (iv)

>> RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that are

>> occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement, should

>be

>> followed.

>>

>> I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by following

>> all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I should

>> share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and KP

>> Students.

>>

>> Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients etc., I

>am

>> not able to interact with other members of this Group very often,

>for

>> which I hope they will pardon me.

>>

>> GOOD LUCK

>> Kpk3010

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri K.P.Kuppu Ganapati,

Your reply to Kanak,"rang a bell' in my mind...

I remember,during one of his lectures,years ago,Guruji had cautioned students, that if the star ruling on the day is the significator of your(the astrologer's) VIII th, the prediction is very likely to go wrong...? ! Hence he advised that the chart be taken up on some other day...

Sir, could you please elaborate ? This seems to have slipped my mind...it is very careless of me to forget such an extremely valuable tip...

I shall be ever grateful to you...Sir...

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

Dera Kuppu ji,

You have mention in mail :

"Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the RUNNINGperiod Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and theAscendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on the dayyou are working out the chart."

How can astrologer check this?

 

regards

kanak>"kpk3010" <kpk3010> > > Re: ABOUT RULING PLANETS>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:31:42 -0000>>DEAR MR.KANAKJI,>I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT>"favourable period". IN THE EXTRACT OF MY POSTILNGS WHICH YOU HAVE>QUOTED, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYWHERE ABOUT "favourable period". BUT I>HAVE MENTIONED ONLY ABOUT "favourable positions". YOU MAY PERHAPS>AGREE THAT BOTH THESE TWO TERMS DENOTE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEREFORE>KINDLY PUT YOUR QUESTION IN A MORE PRECISE AND CLEAR MANNER SO THAT I>CAN FIRST UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER IT TO THE BEST>OF MY ABILITY.>GOOD LUCK>kpk3010>>>>>>>>>>>>--- In

, "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>>>>

 

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Dear Ron,

 

My understanding is from Polish and other roman catholics that I'm

sure you're not.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

-- In , " rongaunt@b... au " <rongaunt@b...>

wrote:

>

> Dear tw,

>

> I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a difference

> which most Christians - including clergy - do not appear to

> understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda made this

> perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

>

> If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will find

> anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is a sin.

> This is a fiction that most people who call themselves

> 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of 'everything

> is a sin which I don't understand'.

> If you think I am being hard on Christians I would like to

> explain that I am a regular church going 'Christian', but with

> some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to understand.

>

> In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce ' The Sleeping

> Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven success, he says

> that astrology was a major part of the curriculum for Jesus in

> his days as a student.

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >Dear kpk3010,

> >

> >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input. Crucial

assumptions

> >of strong urge and divine force are understandable. But blessing

for

> >practicing of astrology can't be expected from Christ and Buddha

> >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and prohibited by

Buddha.

> >

> >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like me, could you

kindly

> >share your results of practiacal experience of doing a " repaeated

RP

> >test " for rectification of " the same birth data " which may agree

or

> >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS experienced by K.

Baskaran

> >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young brilliant KP

learner

> >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory (Ref. im my

> >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

> >

> >Thanks and regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> >> Dear Members,

> >> I have been closely following all the postings in this Group

and I

> >> find that many are struggling to understand the usage of the

> >principle

> >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT GURUJI, JYOTISH

MARTHAND,

> >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

> >>

> >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere Planets but

they are

> >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP followers out of the

> >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where several precious

> >stones,

> >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but cannot be seen by

them

> >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should be very careful

> >before

> >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use. Then what is the

> >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed by my

experience

> >as a

> >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a century (50

years)

> >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly by sitting

under

> >the

> >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

> >>

> >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict on a Birth

Chart or

> >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes, concentrate deeply

and

> >beg

> >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND MOTHER) whether they

are

> >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave you this body

and

> >> mind through which your intellect works on any subject and

produce

> >> results.

> >>

> >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you properly and

> >correctly.

> >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher you cannot

> >understand

> >> anything in life.

> >>

> >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING DEITY) it may be

> >anything

> >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc., etc., This is

> >necessary

> >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament by THEM to give

> >> results based on their position in the Chart. Here a question

may be

> >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF ANY GOD " ,

what

> >am

> >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that you are

brought

> >into

> >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such persons, their

Father

> >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

> >>

> >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out whether the

RUNNING

> >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and Sookshma, Moon and

the

> >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position for you on

the day

> >> you are working out the chart. Here give more importance to the

> >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you are taking up

the

> >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have not taken into

> >account

> >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple. Jupiter indicates

the

> >year

> >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving Planet and you

> >cannot

> >> wait for another Year to come before taking up the Chart for

> >working.

> >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves only a degree

per

> >day

> >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up the examination

of

> >the

> >> Chart.

> >>

> >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites, you should work

out

> >the

> >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your heart since they

are

> >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first you should

take

> >only

> >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT GURUJI, VIZ.,.

Ascendant

> >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord, Moon's Sign

Lord

> >and

> >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the Indian System of

Day,

> >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise. Otherwise, it should be

from

> >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the Seconds, at the

place

> >you

> >> are examining the Chart. Since correct time is the essence in

this

> >> exercise you should give greatest importance for the

correctness of

> >> the time up to the Micro Seconds which you can obtain from any

> >> Scientific Laboratory which uses the Atomic Clock for their

work.

> >>

> >> The first set of 5 Planets should be kept and used as PRIMARY

RULING

> >> PLANETS. Then, take those Planets that have not figured

directly as

> >> RPs i.e., Primary RPs, but they are in the Star and / Sub of

RPs.,

> >> those Planets within 3 degrees of a RP, those Planets which are

> >> occupying the Ascendant Sign in the RP, those Planets that are

being

> >> strongly aspected by the Primary RPs. These should be kept

> >separately

> >> as SECONDARY RULING PLANETS. So far as Nodes are concerned, if

they

> >> are conjoined with either the Primary or Secondary RPs they

should

> >be

> >> taken as RPs in their respective set i.e., Primary or Secondary

and

> >> similarly if they occupy the Signs of the RPs., Primary and

> >Secondary.

> >> In this process you will mostly get all the 9 Planets as RPs.

> >>

> >> After the above process is over, you can begin your work, first

by

> >> positioning the PRIMARY RPs to the required places depending

on the

> >> type of question etc., In case you are not getting the correct

> >result,

> >> go to the SECONDARY RPs to see if they fit in for the purpose

for

> >> which you have invoked the RPs.

> >>

> >> In the case of Horary Charts, the usual elimination process (i)

> >> removing the tempting RPs (ii) RPs that are occupying the

negative

> >> houses from the houses required for getting the result (iii)

RPs

> >that

> >> are in the Stars/Subs of Planets occupying the negative houses

(iv)

> >> RPs in the Star and or Sub of a Retrograde Planet (v) RPs that

are

> >> occupying the houses 6, 8 and 12 to the houses of judgement,

should

> >be

> >> followed.

> >>

> >> I have been successful in my career as a KP Astrologer by

following

> >> all the above mentioned procedures and hence I thought that I

should

> >> share the above with all my fellow KP Scholars, Astrologers and

KP

> >> Students.

> >>

> >> Due to my old age and other preoccupations with my Clients

etc., I

> >am

> >> not able to interact with other members of this Group very

often,

> >for

> >> which I hope they will pardon me.

> >>

> >> GOOD LUCK

> >> Kpk3010

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ron,

Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar

experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met

told that " looking into future " is not permitted in

Christian religion and so I also believed it to be

so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my

mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many

Christian friends in India.

With regards,

Sunil D.Joshi.

 

--- " rongaunt au "

<rongaunt wrote:

 

>

> Dear tw,

>

> I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a

> difference

> which most Christians - including clergy - do not

> appear to

> understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda

> made this

> perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

>

> If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will

> find

> anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is

> a sin.

> This is a fiction that most people who call

> themselves

> 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of

> 'everything

> is a sin which I don't understand'.

> If you think I am being hard on Christians I would

> like to

> explain that I am a regular church going

> 'Christian', but with

> some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to

> understand.

>

> In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '

> The Sleeping

> Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven

> success, he says

> that astrology was a major part of the curriculum

> for Jesus in

> his days as a student.

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >Dear kpk3010,

> >

> >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.

> Crucial assumptions

> >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.

> But blessing for

> >practicing of astrology can't be expected from

> Christ and Buddha

> >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and

> prohibited by Buddha.

> >

> >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like

> me, could you kindly

> >share your results of practiacal experience of

> doing a " repaeated RP

> >test " for rectification of " the same birth data "

> which may agree or

> >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS

> experienced by K. Baskaran

> >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young

> brilliant KP learner

> >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory

> (Ref. im my

> >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

> >

> >Thanks and regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> > , " kpk3010 "

> <kpk3010> wrote:

> >> Dear Members,

> >> I have been closely following all the postings in

> this Group and I

> >> find that many are struggling to understand the

> usage of the

> >principle

> >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT

> GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

> >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI

> K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

> >>

> >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere

> Planets but they are

> >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP

> followers out of the

> >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where

> several precious

> >stones,

> >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but

> cannot be seen by them

> >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should

> be very careful

> >before

> >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.

> Then what is the

> >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed

> by my experience

> >as a

> >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a

> century (50 years)

> >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly

> by sitting under

> >the

> >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

> >>

> >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict

> on a Birth Chart or

> >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,

> concentrate deeply and

> >beg

> >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND

> MOTHER) whether they are

> >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave

> you this body and

> >> mind through which your intellect works on any

> subject and produce

> >> results.

> >>

> >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you

> properly and

> >correctly.

> >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher

> you cannot

> >understand

> >> anything in life.

> >>

> >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING

> DEITY) it may be

> >anything

> >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,

> etc., This is

> >necessary

> >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament

> by THEM to give

> >> results based on their position in the Chart.

> Here a question may be

> >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF

> ANY GOD " , what

> >am

> >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that

> you are brought

> >into

> >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such

> persons, their Father

> >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

> >>

> >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out

> whether the RUNNING

> >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and

> Sookshma, Moon and the

> >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position

> for you on the day

> >> you are working out the chart. Here give more

> importance to the

> >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you

> are taking up the

> >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have

> not taken into

> >account

> >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.

> Jupiter indicates the

> >year

> >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving

> Planet and you

> >cannot

> >> wait for another Year to come before taking up

> the Chart for

> >working.

> >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves

> only a degree per

> >day

> >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up

> the examination of

> >the

> >> Chart.

> >>

> >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,

> you should work out

> >the

> >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your

> heart since they are

> >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first

> you should take

> >only

> >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT

> GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

> >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,

> Moon's Sign Lord

> >and

> >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the

> Indian System of Day,

> >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.

> Otherwise, it should be from

> >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the

> Seconds, at the place

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

Just as many Hindus know very little of what is written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages...

This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our religious books...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80 wrote:

Dear Ron,Thanks for clarification.But even I have similarexperience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I mettold that "looking into future" is not permitted inChristian religion and so I also believed it to beso(of course without reading Bible which I feel was mymistake) I will try to clarify this to my manyChristian friends in India.With regards,Sunil D.Joshi.--- "rongaunt au"<rongaunt wrote:> > Dear tw,> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a> difference> which most Christians - including clergy - do not> appear to> understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda> made this> perfectly clear in his Autobiography.> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you

will> find> anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is> a sin.> This is a fiction that most people who call> themselves> 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of> 'everything> is a sin which I don't understand'.> If you think I am being hard on Christians I would> like to> explain that I am a regular church going> 'Christian', but with > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to> understand.> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '> The Sleeping > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven> success, he says> that astrology was a major part of the curriculum> for Jesus in> his days as a student.> > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:> > >Dear

kpk3010,> >> >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.> Crucial assumptions > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.> But blessing for > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from> Christ and Buddha > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and> prohibited by Buddha.> >> >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like> me, could you kindly > >share your results of practiacal experience of> doing a "repaeated RP > >test" for rectification of "the same birth data"> which may agree or > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS> experienced by K. Baskaran > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young> brilliant KP learner > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory> (Ref. im my > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).> >> >Thanks and

regards,> >> >tw> >> > , "kpk3010"> <kpk3010> wrote:> >> Dear Members,> >> I have been closely following all the postings in> this Group and I> >> find that many are struggling to understand the> usage of the > >principle> >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT> GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,> >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI> K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.> >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere> Planets but they are> >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP> followers out of the> >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where> several precious > >stones,> >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but> cannot be seen by them> >> due to the thick darkness.

Therefore one should> be very careful > >before> >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.> Then what is the> >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed> by my experience > >as a> >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a> century (50 years)> >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly> by sitting under > >the> >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.> >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict> on a Birth Chart or> >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,> concentrate deeply and > >beg> >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND> MOTHER) whether they are> >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave> you this body and> >> mind through which your intellect works on

any> subject and produce> >> results.> >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you> properly and > >correctly.> >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher> you cannot > >understand> >> anything in life.> >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING> DEITY) it may be > >anything> >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,> etc., This is > >necessary> >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament> by THEM to give> >> results based on their position in the Chart.> Here a question may be> >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF> ANY GOD " , what > >am> >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that> you are brought > >into> >> this world by

your Father and Mother. For such> persons, their Father> >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta. > >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out> whether the RUNNING> >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and> Sookshma, Moon and the> >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position> for you on the day> >> you are working out the chart. Here give more> importance to the> >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you> are taking up the> >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have> not taken into > >account> >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.> Jupiter indicates the > >year> >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving> Planet and you > >cannot> >> wait for another Year to come before taking

up> the Chart for > >working.> >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves> only a degree per > >day> >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up> the examination of > >the> >> Chart.> >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,> you should work out > >the> >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your> heart since they are> >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first> you should take > >only> >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT> GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant> >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,> Moon's Sign Lord > >and> >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the> Indian System of Day,> >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.> Otherwise, it should

be from> >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the> Seconds, at the place > === message truncated ===

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

 

I think one needs to look into how this mistaken belief took

root. In the Old Testament there is an injunction to the

Israelites that they should not concern themselves with the

future. One reason for this may have been that right from the

exodus from Egypt they had leaders who 'knew' what to do in

all important circumstances. If this knowledge was not obtained

by divine revelation ie to Moses, it was obtained by divination

by the priests. They had a special tunic created which was

called the 'Priest's Breastplate of Judgement'. Into this

breastplate was placed what was called 'urim and thummim'.

These were stones that were cast to give answers

to questions asked by the high priest.

 

In other words it wasn't that divination was looked at as being

evil; it was simply the prerogative of the ruling class and not

available to the rank and file; who if they used divination might

obtain different answers to the ruling class and cause division,

at a time when national unity was essential. In fact in the Old

Testament it clearly states that the Israelites may not use

divination, but people of other nations may use it.

 

Whenever, my Christian friends try to tell me that divination is

evil,I point out that if this is the case why is it practiced by

the Chief Priests and other successful notables in the Old

Testament?. When they ask me what I mean I mention the

case of Joseph. Joseph was a man who was sold into slavery

into Egypt by his brothers and being falsely accused was

imprisoned. Later by using his psychic gifts he rose to become

the most powerful man in Egypt after the Pharaoh.

 

During a famine his brothers visited Egypt to buy grain. They

didn't recognize their brother now the Chief Minister of the

land, but he recognized them. After giving them grain he sent

them on their way without revealing himself. But in order to

see his younger brother and father who were not in the party he

hid his favorites 'divining cup' in the grain. He then had his

steward chase after them and accuse them of stealing it so as to

make them return to him. On their return he asked them if they

thought not that " such a man as I can divine? " .

 

Without going into any greater detail, everything turns out well

in the end as Joseph's father and all his family settle

comfortably in Egypt.

 

The point of all this is that a person highly thought of by both

Jews and Christians used psychic gifts. Whilst nearly all

Christians would know this story,I find none of them questioning

their belief that scrying or divining is evil. In fact I used

to attend a 'small group' (these are get togethers to study the

bible) of Christians mainly consisting of people in the ministry.

These were people from the bible college, deacons of the church,

and translators of the bible into the New Guinea language. I

was surprised to find that they seldom questioned anything.

When I mentioned ideas (mainly picked up from Indian philosophy)

they were amazed, initially offended, and later accepting as

they came to realize that all might not be exactly as thought by

the 'average' Christian.

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

 

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:05:32 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

 

>Dear Ron,

>Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar

>experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met

>told that " looking into future " is not permitted in

>Christian religion and so I also believed it to be

>so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my

>mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many

>Christian friends in India.

>With regards,

>Sunil D.Joshi.

>

>--- " rongaunt au "

><rongaunt wrote:

>

>>

>> Dear tw,

>>

>> I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a

>> difference

>> which most Christians - including clergy - do not

>> appear to

>> understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda

>> made this

>> perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

>>

>> If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will

>> find

>> anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is

>> a sin.

>> This is a fiction that most people who call

>> themselves

>> 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of

>> 'everything

>> is a sin which I don't understand'.

>> If you think I am being hard on Christians I would

>> like to

>> explain that I am a regular church going

>> 'Christian', but with

>> some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to

>> understand.

>>

>> In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '

>> The Sleeping

>> Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven

>> success, he says

>> that astrology was a major part of the curriculum

>> for Jesus in

>> his days as a student.

>>

>>

>> Ron Gaunt

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

>>

>> >Dear kpk3010,

>> >

>> >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.

>> Crucial assumptions

>> >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.

>> But blessing for

>> >practicing of astrology can't be expected from

>> Christ and Buddha

>> >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and

>> prohibited by Buddha.

>> >

>> >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like

>> me, could you kindly

>> >share your results of practiacal experience of

>> doing a " repaeated RP

>> >test " for rectification of " the same birth data "

>> which may agree or

>> >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS

>> experienced by K. Baskaran

>> >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young

>> brilliant KP learner

>> >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory

>> (Ref. im my

>> >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

>> >

>> >Thanks and regards,

>> >

>> >tw

>> >

>> > , " kpk3010 "

>> <kpk3010> wrote:

>> >> Dear Members,

>> >> I have been closely following all the postings in

>> this Group and I

>> >> find that many are struggling to understand the

>> usage of the

>> >principle

>> >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT

>> GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

>> >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI

>> K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

>> >>

>> >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere

>> Planets but they are

>> >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP

>> followers out of the

>> >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where

>> several precious

>> >stones,

>> >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but

>> cannot be seen by them

>> >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should

>> be very careful

>> >before

>> >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.

>> Then what is the

>> >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed

>> by my experience

>> >as a

>> >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a

>> century (50 years)

>> >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly

>> by sitting under

>> >the

>> >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

>> >>

>> >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict

>> on a Birth Chart or

>> >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,

>> concentrate deeply and

>> >beg

>> >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND

>> MOTHER) whether they are

>> >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave

>> you this body and

>> >> mind through which your intellect works on any

>> subject and produce

>> >> results.

>> >>

>> >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you

>> properly and

>> >correctly.

>> >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher

>> you cannot

>> >understand

>> >> anything in life.

>> >>

>> >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING

>> DEITY) it may be

>> >anything

>> >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,

>> etc., This is

>> >necessary

>> >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament

>> by THEM to give

>> >> results based on their position in the Chart.

>> Here a question may be

>> >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF

>> ANY GOD " , what

>> >am

>> >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that

>> you are brought

>> >into

>> >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such

>> persons, their Father

>> >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

>> >>

>> >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out

>> whether the RUNNING

>> >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and

>> Sookshma, Moon and the

>> >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position

>> for you on the day

>> >> you are working out the chart. Here give more

>> importance to the

>> >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you

>> are taking up the

>> >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have

>> not taken into

>> >account

>> >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.

>> Jupiter indicates the

>> >year

>> >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving

>> Planet and you

>> >cannot

>> >> wait for another Year to come before taking up

>> the Chart for

>> >working.

>> >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves

>> only a degree per

>> >day

>> >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up

>> the examination of

>> >the

>> >> Chart.

>> >>

>> >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,

>> you should work out

>> >the

>> >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your

>> heart since they are

>> >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first

>> you should take

>> >only

>> >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT

>> GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

>> >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,

>> Moon's Sign Lord

>> >and

>> >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the

>> Indian System of Day,

>> >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.

>> Otherwise, it should be from

>> >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the

>> Seconds, at the place

>>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

 

 

My Polish Roman Catholic friends say that astrology is a form of

fortunetelling that preempts the providence of God, Who alone knows

the future, and refer---

 

47:13 Thou hast failed in the multitude or thy counsels: let now the

astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars, and

counted the months, that from them they might tell the things that

shall come to thee.

 

47:14 " Behold they are as stubble,... "

 

and mention that Pope Sixtus V condemned astrology in 1586 and Pope

Urban VIII condemned it in 1631.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Sunil,

> Just as many Hindus know very little of what is

written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims

do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in

Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages...

> This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my

humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our

religious books...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>

> Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80> wrote:

> Dear Ron,

> Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar

> experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met

> told that " looking into future " is not permitted in

> Christian religion and so I also believed it to be

> so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my

> mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many

> Christian friends in India.

> With regards,

> Sunil D.Joshi.

>

> --- " rongaunt@b... au "

> <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear tw,

> >

> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a

> > difference

> > which most Christians - including clergy - do not

> > appear to

> > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda

> > made this

> > perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

> >

> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will

> > find

> > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is

> > a sin.

> > This is a fiction that most people who call

> > themselves

> > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of

> > 'everything

> > is a sin which I don't understand'.

> > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would

> > like to

> > explain that I am a regular church going

> > 'Christian', but with

> > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to

> > understand.

> >

> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '

> > The Sleeping

> > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven

> > success, he says

> > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum

> > for Jesus in

> > his days as a student.

> >

> >

> > Ron Gaunt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

> >

> > >Dear kpk3010,

> > >

> > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.

> > Crucial assumptions

> > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.

> > But blessing for

> > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from

> > Christ and Buddha

> > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and

> > prohibited by Buddha.

> > >

> > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like

> > me, could you kindly

> > >share your results of practiacal experience of

> > doing a " repaeated RP

> > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data "

> > which may agree or

> > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS

> > experienced by K. Baskaran

> > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young

> > brilliant KP learner

> > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory

> > (Ref. im my

> > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

> > >

> > >Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > >tw

> > >

> > > , " kpk3010 "

> > <kpk3010> wrote:

> > >> Dear Members,

> > >> I have been closely following all the postings in

> > this Group and I

> > >> find that many are struggling to understand the

> > usage of the

> > >principle

> > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT

> > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

> > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI

> > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

> > >>

> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere

> > Planets but they are

> > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP

> > followers out of the

> > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where

> > several precious

> > >stones,

> > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but

> > cannot be seen by them

> > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should

> > be very careful

> > >before

> > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.

> > Then what is the

> > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed

> > by my experience

> > >as a

> > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a

> > century (50 years)

> > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly

> > by sitting under

> > >the

> > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

> > >>

> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict

> > on a Birth Chart or

> > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,

> > concentrate deeply and

> > >beg

> > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND

> > MOTHER) whether they are

> > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave

> > you this body and

> > >> mind through which your intellect works on any

> > subject and produce

> > >> results.

> > >>

> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you

> > properly and

> > >correctly.

> > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher

> > you cannot

> > >understand

> > >> anything in life.

> > >>

> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING

> > DEITY) it may be

> > >anything

> > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,

> > etc., This is

> > >necessary

> > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament

> > by THEM to give

> > >> results based on their position in the Chart.

> > Here a question may be

> > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF

> > ANY GOD " , what

> > >am

> > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that

> > you are brought

> > >into

> > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such

> > persons, their Father

> > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

> > >>

> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out

> > whether the RUNNING

> > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and

> > Sookshma, Moon and the

> > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position

> > for you on the day

> > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more

> > importance to the

> > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you

> > are taking up the

> > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have

> > not taken into

> > >account

> > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.

> > Jupiter indicates the

> > >year

> > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving

> > Planet and you

> > >cannot

> > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up

> > the Chart for

> > >working.

> > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves

> > only a degree per

> > >day

> > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up

> > the examination of

> > >the

> > >> Chart.

> > >>

> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,

> > you should work out

> > >the

> > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your

> > heart since they are

> > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first

> > you should take

> > >only

> > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT

> > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

> > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,

> > Moon's Sign Lord

> > >and

> > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the

> > Indian System of Day,

> > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.

> > Otherwise, it should be from

> > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the

> > Seconds, at the place

> >

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Dear tw,

 

Please see comments ** ................... **

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:01:16 -0000, you wrote:

 

>Dear Sunil,

>

>

> My Polish Roman Catholic friends say that astrology is a form of

>fortunetelling that preempts the providence of God, Who alone knows

>the future, and refer---

>

>47:13 Thou hast failed in the multitude or thy counsels: let now the

>astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars, and

>counted the months, that from them they might tell the things that

>shall come to thee.

 

** This is the only saying that critics tend to quote because in

reality there is nothing said against astrology in the

bible. Even here the injunction is not against astrology

so much as the inability of the astrologers to alter the

course of events - which most astrologers would accept as

valid. **

 

** There are many oblique references to astrology in the bible

which are not derogatory. **

 

>

>47:14 " Behold they are as stubble,... "

>

>and mention that Pope Sixtus V condemned astrology in 1586 and Pope

>Urban VIII condemned it in 1631.

 

** Just shows that even the elect can be mislead. Remember that

Jesus referred to the clergy of his day as " the blind

leading the blind " , and history tends to repeat itself.

Anyone who studies the history of the Christian

Church cannot but be horrified and offended by some of the

practices of the ruling priestly class at times. The

tortures of early heretics, and of the inquisition were more

callous than anything the Romans did to the early

Christians. At least they had a quick death.

Unfortunately, Christianity throughout the ages has been

hi-jacked by self seeking politicians, bureaucrats and

administrators. The truth is there, but is hidden under

the superstition and shallow thinking of people who never

realize the fallibility of their leaders. This possibly

applies to all religions. **

>

>Regards,

>

>tw

>

>

>

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

>wrote:

>> Dear Sunil,

>> Just as many Hindus know very little of what is

>written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many Muslims

>do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in

>Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages...

>> This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my

>humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our

>religious books...

>> Yours sincerely,

>> lyrastro1

>> GOOD LUCK !

>>

>>

>> Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80> wrote:

>> Dear Ron,

>> Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar

>> experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met

>> told that " looking into future " is not permitted in

>> Christian religion and so I also believed it to be

>> so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my

>> mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many

>> Christian friends in India.

>> With regards,

>> Sunil D.Joshi.

>>

>> --- " rongaunt@b... au "

>> <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > Dear tw,

>> >

>> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a

>> > difference

>> > which most Christians - including clergy - do not

>> > appear to

>> > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda

>> > made this

>> > perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

>> >

>> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will

>> > find

>> > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is

>> > a sin.

>> > This is a fiction that most people who call

>> > themselves

>> > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of

>> > 'everything

>> > is a sin which I don't understand'.

>> > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would

>> > like to

>> > explain that I am a regular church going

>> > 'Christian', but with

>> > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to

>> > understand.

>> >

>> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '

>> > The Sleeping

>> > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven

>> > success, he says

>> > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum

>> > for Jesus in

>> > his days as a student.

>> >

>> >

>> > Ron Gaunt

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

>> >

>> > >Dear kpk3010,

>> > >

>> > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.

>> > Crucial assumptions

>> > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.

>> > But blessing for

>> > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from

>> > Christ and Buddha

>> > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and

>> > prohibited by Buddha.

>> > >

>> > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like

>> > me, could you kindly

>> > >share your results of practiacal experience of

>> > doing a " repaeated RP

>> > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data "

>> > which may agree or

>> > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS

>> > experienced by K. Baskaran

>> > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young

>> > brilliant KP learner

>> > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory

>> > (Ref. im my

>> > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

>> > >

>> > >Thanks and regards,

>> > >

>> > >tw

>> > >

>> > > , " kpk3010 "

>> > <kpk3010> wrote:

>> > >> Dear Members,

>> > >> I have been closely following all the postings in

>> > this Group and I

>> > >> find that many are struggling to understand the

>> > usage of the

>> > >principle

>> > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT

>> > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

>> > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI

>> > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

>> > >>

>> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere

>> > Planets but they are

>> > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP

>> > followers out of the

>> > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where

>> > several precious

>> > >stones,

>> > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but

>> > cannot be seen by them

>> > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should

>> > be very careful

>> > >before

>> > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.

>> > Then what is the

>> > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed

>> > by my experience

>> > >as a

>> > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a

>> > century (50 years)

>> > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly

>> > by sitting under

>> > >the

>> > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

>> > >>

>> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict

>> > on a Birth Chart or

>> > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,

>> > concentrate deeply and

>> > >beg

>> > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND

>> > MOTHER) whether they are

>> > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave

>> > you this body and

>> > >> mind through which your intellect works on any

>> > subject and produce

>> > >> results.

>> > >>

>> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you

>> > properly and

>> > >correctly.

>> > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher

>> > you cannot

>> > >understand

>> > >> anything in life.

>> > >>

>> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING

>> > DEITY) it may be

>> > >anything

>> > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,

>> > etc., This is

>> > >necessary

>> > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament

>> > by THEM to give

>> > >> results based on their position in the Chart.

>> > Here a question may be

>> > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF

>> > ANY GOD " , what

>> > >am

>> > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that

>> > you are brought

>> > >into

>> > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such

>> > persons, their Father

>> > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

>> > >>

>> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out

>> > whether the RUNNING

>> > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and

>> > Sookshma, Moon and the

>> > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position

>> > for you on the day

>> > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more

>> > importance to the

>> > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you

>> > are taking up the

>> > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have

>> > not taken into

>> > >account

>> > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.

>> > Jupiter indicates the

>> > >year

>> > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving

>> > Planet and you

>> > >cannot

>> > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up

>> > the Chart for

>> > >working.

>> > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves

>> > only a degree per

>> > >day

>> > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up

>> > the examination of

>> > >the

>> > >> Chart.

>> > >>

>> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,

>> > you should work out

>> > >the

>> > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your

>> > heart since they are

>> > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first

>> > you should take

>> > >only

>> > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT

>> > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

>> > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,

>> > Moon's Sign Lord

>> > >and

>> > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the

>> > Indian System of Day,

>> > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.

>> > Otherwise, it should be from

>> > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the

>> > Seconds, at the place

>> >

>> === message truncated ===

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ron,

 

Buddha, " Star-gazing, astrology, forecasting lucky or unlucky events

by signs, prognosticating good or evil, all those are things

forbidden. "

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " rongaunt@b... au "

<rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear tw,

>

> Please see comments ** ................... **

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:01:16 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >Dear Sunil,

> >

> >

> > My Polish Roman Catholic friends say that astrology is a form

of

> >fortunetelling that preempts the providence of God, Who alone

knows

> >the future, and refer---

> >

> >47:13 Thou hast failed in the multitude or thy counsels: let now

the

> >astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars,

and

> >counted the months, that from them they might tell the things

that

> >shall come to thee.

>

> ** This is the only saying that critics tend to quote because in

> reality there is nothing said against astrology in the

> bible. Even here the injunction is not against astrology

> so much as the inability of the astrologers to alter the

> course of events - which most astrologers would accept as

> valid. **

>

> ** There are many oblique references to astrology in the bible

> which are not derogatory. **

>

> >

> >47:14 " Behold they are as stubble,... "

> >

> >and mention that Pope Sixtus V condemned astrology in 1586 and

Pope

> >Urban VIII condemned it in 1631.

>

> ** Just shows that even the elect can be mislead. Remember that

> Jesus referred to the clergy of his day as " the blind

> leading the blind " , and history tends to repeat itself.

> Anyone who studies the history of the Christian

> Church cannot but be horrified and offended by some of the

> practices of the ruling priestly class at times. The

> tortures of early heretics, and of the inquisition were more

> callous than anything the Romans did to the early

> Christians. At least they had a quick death.

> Unfortunately, Christianity throughout the ages has been

> hi-jacked by self seeking politicians, bureaucrats and

> administrators. The truth is there, but is hidden under

> the superstition and shallow thinking of people who never

> realize the fallibility of their leaders. This possibly

> applies to all religions. **

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

<lyrastro1>

> >wrote:

> >> Dear Sunil,

> >> Just as many Hindus know very little of what is

> >written in the Geeta or other religious Texts,so also many

Muslims

> >do not know what is written in the Quran..as it is written in

> >Arabic...but only recently translated into other languages...

> >> This seems to be a Universal phenomenon...in my

> >humble opinion...very few among us know what is written in our

> >religious books...

> >> Yours sincerely,

> >> lyrastro1

> >> GOOD LUCK !

> >>

> >>

> >> Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80> wrote:

> >> Dear Ron,

> >> Thanks for clarification.But even I have similar

> >> experience.Most of the Indian Christians whom I met

> >> told that " looking into future " is not permitted in

> >> Christian religion and so I also believed it to be

> >> so(of course without reading Bible which I feel was my

> >> mistake) I will try to clarify this to my many

> >> Christian friends in India.

> >> With regards,

> >> Sunil D.Joshi.

> >>

> >> --- " rongaunt@b... au "

> >> <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Dear tw,

> >> >

> >> > I suppose by Christ you mean Jesus. There is a

> >> > difference

> >> > which most Christians - including clergy - do not

> >> > appear to

> >> > understand. An Indian Guru Paramhansa Yogananda

> >> > made this

> >> > perfectly clear in his Autobiography.

> >> >

> >> > If you are referring to Jesus I don't think you will

> >> > find

> >> > anywhere in the bible where he believes astrology is

> >> > a sin.

> >> > This is a fiction that most people who call

> >> > themselves

> >> > 'Christians' believe. It is lumped into the bag of

> >> > 'everything

> >> > is a sin which I don't understand'.

> >> > If you think I am being hard on Christians I would

> >> > like to

> >> > explain that I am a regular church going

> >> > 'Christian', but with

> >> > some beliefs that my compatriots would find hard to

> >> > understand.

> >> >

> >> > In fact if you study the readings of Edgar Cayce '

> >> > The Sleeping

> >> > Prophet' who had a fantastic record of proven

> >> > success, he says

> >> > that astrology was a major part of the curriculum

> >> > for Jesus in

> >> > his days as a student.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Ron Gaunt

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:11 -0000, you wrote:

> >> >

> >> > >Dear kpk3010,

> >> > >

> >> > >1. Thank you very much for your valuable input.

> >> > Crucial assumptions

> >> > >of strong urge and divine force are understandable.

> >> > But blessing for

> >> > >practicing of astrology can't be expected from

> >> > Christ and Buddha

> >> > >since it's supposed to be a sin by Christ and

> >> > prohibited by Buddha.

> >> > >

> >> > >2. For the practical benefit of KP learners like

> >> > me, could you kindly

> >> > >share your results of practiacal experience of

> >> > doing a " repaeated RP

> >> > >test " for rectification of " the same birth data "

> >> > which may agree or

> >> > >disagree with the similar pattern of RPS

> >> > experienced by K. Baskaran

> >> > >and Narhari Khake and also indicated by young

> >> > brilliant KP learner

> >> > >Rangarajan's simulation of powerful Game Theory

> >> > (Ref. im my

> >> > >Message#5028, point 2,3 & 4).

> >> > >

> >> > >Thanks and regards,

> >> > >

> >> > >tw

> >> > >

> >> > > , " kpk3010 "

> >> > <kpk3010> wrote:

> >> > >> Dear Members,

> >> > >> I have been closely following all the postings in

> >> > this Group and I

> >> > >> find that many are struggling to understand the

> >> > usage of the

> >> > >principle

> >> > >> of RULING PLANETS as invented by our GREAT

> >> > GURUJI, JYOTISH MARTHAND,

> >> > >> JYOTISH MANNAN, LATE PROF: SRI

> >> > K.S.KRISHNAMOORTHIJI.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> WHAT ARE THE RULING PLANETS? These are not mere

> >> > Planets but they are

> >> > >> the POWERFUL LIGHTS that will take the KP

> >> > followers out of the

> >> > >> labyrinth dark tunnel of KP principles where

> >> > several precious

> >> > >stones,

> >> > >> jewels and what not, are strewn all over but

> >> > cannot be seen by them

> >> > >> due to the thick darkness. Therefore one should

> >> > be very careful

> >> > >before

> >> > >> trying to use these GREAT LIGHTS for their use.

> >> > Then what is the

> >> > >> procedure. Let me explain below, which is backed

> >> > by my experience

> >> > >as a

> >> > >> practicising KP Astrologer for the past half a

> >> > century (50 years)

> >> > >> after learning this Great Divine Science directly

> >> > by sitting under

> >> > >the

> >> > >> LOTUS FEET of our beloved GURUJI himself.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Before attempting to verify, correct and predict

> >> > on a Birth Chart or

> >> > >> from a Horary Chart, first close your eyes,

> >> > concentrate deeply and

> >> > >beg

> >> > >> for the GRACE of your Parents, (FATHER AND

> >> > MOTHER) whether they are

> >> > >> alive or not, since they are the persons who gave

> >> > you this body and

> >> > >> mind through which your intellect works on any

> >> > subject and produce

> >> > >> results.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Then beg for the GRACE of GURUJI to guide you

> >> > properly and

> >> > >correctly.

> >> > >> This is a must, since without a Guru or Teacher

> >> > you cannot

> >> > >understand

> >> > >> anything in life.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Next, pray to your Ishta Devta, (WORSHIPPING

> >> > DEITY) it may be

> >> > >anything

> >> > >> like, Christ, Allah, Ram, Krishan, Shiv, etc.,

> >> > etc., This is

> >> > >necessary

> >> > >> because the Planets are placed in the firmament

> >> > by THEM to give

> >> > >> results based on their position in the Chart.

> >> > Here a question may be

> >> > >> asked viz., " I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTANCE OF

> >> > ANY GOD " , what

> >> > >am

> >> > >> I to do?. O.K. At least you know and believe that

> >> > you are brought

> >> > >into

> >> > >> this world by your Father and Mother. For such

> >> > persons, their Father

> >> > >> and Mother only are the Gods or Ishta Devta.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Check your own Natal/Birth Chart and find out

> >> > whether the RUNNING

> >> > >> period Lords, viz., Dasa, Bukthi, Anthar and

> >> > Sookshma, Moon and the

> >> > >> Ascendant, are transiting in a favorable position

> >> > for you on the day

> >> > >> you are working out the chart. Here give more

> >> > importance to the

> >> > >> Ascendant which indicates the time at which you

> >> > are taking up the

> >> > >> Chart for working. Please note here that I have

> >> > not taken into

> >> > >account

> >> > >> Jupiter and Sun. The reason is very simple.

> >> > Jupiter indicates the

> >> > >year

> >> > >> and all of us know that it is a very slow moving

> >> > Planet and you

> >> > >cannot

> >> > >> wait for another Year to come before taking up

> >> > the Chart for

> >> > >working.

> >> > >> Similarly Sun which denotes the Month also moves

> >> > only a degree per

> >> > >day

> >> > >> and we cannot wait for one month, for taking up

> >> > the examination of

> >> > >the

> >> > >> Chart.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> After satisfying all the above pre-requisites,

> >> > you should work out

> >> > >the

> >> > >> RULING PLANETS with respect for them in your

> >> > heart since they are

> >> > >> going to guide you to success. . Here also first

> >> > you should take

> >> > >only

> >> > >> the 5 RULING PLANETS followed by our GREAT

> >> > GURUJI, VIZ.,. Ascendant

> >> > >> Star Lord, Ascendant Sign Lord, Moon's Star Lord,

> >> > Moon's Sign Lord

> >> > >and

> >> > >> finally the Day Lord, (Here, if you follow the

> >> > Indian System of Day,

> >> > >> it should be from Sun Rise to Sun Rise.

> >> > Otherwise, it should be from

> >> > >> Midnight to Midnight) for the time up to the

> >> > Seconds, at the place

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