Ruling planets

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Dear Rangarajan,

There could be situations when all 9 planets will appear as RPs...in that case one is to select only those among them,who happen to be posited in a sub which is the significator of the karaka house,of the subject which is being looked into...

For example if marriage is being looked into,the RPs who are in the sub of the signuificator(s) of the VII th should be preferred...and so on...as suggested in most of the books on K.P...and so on...

This selection of significators is given in great detail in Astrosecrets & K.P.,by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote:

Dear Shri. Raichur and Members,I am trying to find out if there is common agreement amongst usregarding what constitute Ruling Planets. I have read several versionsand therefore wonder which one is really recommended for use. Insteadof discussing the various versions, I am explaining one version here.If you feel this requires changes, please give your suggestion. At theend of this exercise it would be nice to have consensus on someversion that will work (not just for some, but for most if not all). When the astrologer takes up a chart for study (we assume there isreal urge), the following five planets are noted down:1) Asc star lord2) Asc sublord3) Moon star lord4) Moon sub lord5) Day lordFor deciding the Day lord, we use 5:30 am as the threshold. That is,if we check at 4 am on a Wednesday, the Day lord will

be Wednesday,not Thursday.If Rahu/Ketu is conjoined with, aspected by (Vedic aspects), or in thesign of any of the above five RPs, include the corresponding node as well.Since we use RPs very frequently for important tasks such aseliminating "tempting" signifciators, I think it is good to have lessthan 9 planets (ideally, three or four?) in the RP set. I have seendefinitions that most often yield all 9 planets. Please share your experience/expertise.Regards,Rangarajan

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Dear friends,

Long ago while working on a quiz, Rps guided me to confirm some

analysis.

Out of 3 charts one was of a murderer.

I worked [as I remember now for about 30-40 minutes to analyse the

charts]

Five RPs for all the three charts were same, however the

difference appeared in the ascendent Sub in first case it was Moon,

in second case it was Rahu and in 3rd case it was jupiter.

 

I had pinpointed the second chart as that of murderer, and Sub of

ascendent taken as ruling planet confirmed it.

 

Sub of ascendent can be considered in such similar situations.

 

It is matter of practicality how far refined we can go in search of

something.

 

In Sh Ranganathan's hypothetical study by computer for checking

birth time with Rps. We can imagine that sub-sub-sub-sub to infinite

level exists. Even one million of fraction can be assigned some

division of Sub-- say sub to the power of 100 or so.The computer

will take the charts at the time with that level of sub. Can it be

programmed to know the minutest division of sub by computer then we

can check the BRs. Otherwise the Sub at the moment of working would

represent the intentions of the person working on it.

 

Randoms RPs may not have any meaning, in my humble opinion.

 

Inder

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Dear Sri Raichur and friends,

 

In the standardRPs we have on an average 5 planets to represent

Day lord,etc.

Additionally,we are considering adding 2 more, the sublords of

Moon and Asc.Besides these we consider Rahu and Ketu.Then as

mentioned in KP and Astros.. we have to consider planets aspecting

RPs,if any.

 

Add all these ,we end up having all 9 planets to consider.

 

The difficulty for learners is to give priorities/sequence.Books say

consider the 4 most important,which ones? Eliminating low priority

planets has to by guidelines.

 

May I request experienced and seniors, to help unravel

the 'Chakravyuha',to novices like me for eg.

 

Regards,

 

Satish

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Dear Rangarajan,

 

Such kind of postings will be valid " if and only if " they are

supported by a proof of getting a different pattern of RPs (in a

repeated test like Kanak has done) which is differnt from the

indication of your simulation of powerful game theory. Otherwise

forget it.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

<ranga@m...> wrote:

> Dear TW,

> Thanks once again for such a well-researched reply.

>

> My list of RPs is strongly influenced by Kuppu Ganapathi's views

(he

> and I talk frequently over phone).

>

> I will study Narahari's article in 1998 year book.

>

> I have decided not to participate in computer-based studies

> hereafter. Please see postings #5021 and #5023.

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> > Dear Rangarajan,

> >

> > 1. Guruji KS Krishnamurti says on Research:

> >

> > " … What we want is research for truth: Open mind to investigate …

> > Let them (students) also carry out further… It is for you … to

> > further study and make (KP) more useful, more simple … " (Extract

> > from Speech: Astrology & Athrishta, September 1967, p 7)

> >

> > 2. Your simulation clearly shows RPs, both real and simulated,

> are

> > changing because they are a function of time, space, astrologer,

> > strong urge, divine force, blessing etc. etc. as mentioned

earlier.

> >

> > 3. It's the same in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's " Secrets of

> RP

> > & the Birth Time " (1999, pp 94-96) that four astrologers got

> varied

> > RPs for the same chart by the same Rule.

> >

> > 4. Narhari Khake also got different RPs in three tests for the

> same

> > doubtful chart by the same Rule. (KP Year Book, 1998, p 31)

> >

> > 5. However, RPs completely corroborate for two times in the

> article

> > of rectification method approved by KSK in " RP & KP " , 1985, p 97.

> >

> > 6. That is why the real test for the RP Rule on 20 AA records

> will

> > be the " consistency " of the Rule in accepting or rejecting of

> > particular records in the forthcoming repeated test runs.

> >

> > 7. Since no Horary procedure for a question asking whether a

> > particular AA record is correct or not is not available, the

> example

> > No. 1 in pp 106-107 " PR & KP " and Green Card example in p

> > 192 " Furhter Lights on Nakshatra Chintamani " may help to get an

> idea

> > by taking 11th Sbl's connection to 6 or 11 etc.

> >

> > 8. Then why not 100 Horary charts cannot be run if it is

possible

> > for 4 charts after one takes one number as an advantage of

> Horary .

> > (KP Reader VI, 1978, p 18)

> >

> > 9. It will be in line with the devine force, if a program for

RP

> > test similar to Kanak's or Baskaran's (Secret of RP & the Birth

> > Time, pp 64-65) or Kuppu Ganapathi's (KP Year Book 2005, p 23-28)

> > can be run for one by one AA record repeatedly as done by Narhari

> > Khake 4 charts within 1h13m.

> >

> > 10. Regarding which version of RPs, it's worthy to note Kupu

> > Ganapathi's view, " I have also not taken Asc. and Moon's Sub

Lords

> > as RPs since our Guruji has not taken these for his examination

of

> > charts or rectification of birth time and only later on some KP

> > followers have started using them, on which I have no comment " .

> > Both versions may be run to test which version is better fit .

> >

> > 11. Let us see how divine force will respond to your strong urge.

> >

> > 12. KSK, " Many general rules which should not be strictly

> applied.

> > Many modifications are to be included.--- Analytical study,

> correct

> > intuition and good judgment are needed -– " (KP Reader III) But

> > basically we need to learn rules.

> >

> >

> > Thanks and best regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> >

> > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

> > <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Shri. Raichur and Members,

> > > I am trying to find out if there is common agreement amongst us

> > > regarding what constitute Ruling Planets. I have read several

> > versions

> > > and therefore wonder which one is really recommended for use.

> > Instead

> > > of discussing the various versions, I am explaining one version

> > here.

> > > If you feel this requires changes, please give your suggestion.

> At

> > the

> > > end of this exercise it would be nice to have consensus on some

> > > version that will work (not just for some, but for most if not

> > all).

> > >

> > > When the astrologer takes up a chart for study (we assume there

> is

> > > real urge), the following five planets are noted down:

> > > 1) Asc star lord

> > > 2) Asc sublord

> > > 3) Moon star lord

> > > 4) Moon sub lord

> > > 5) Day lord

> > >

> > > For deciding the Day lord, we use 5:30 am as the threshold.

That

> > is,

> > > if we check at 4 am on a Wednesday, the Day lord will be

> Wednesday,

> > > not Thursday.

> > >

> > > If Rahu/Ketu is conjoined with, aspected by (Vedic aspects), or

> in

> > the

> > > sign of any of the above five RPs, include the corresponding

> node

> > as well.

> > >

> > > Since we use RPs very frequently for important tasks such as

> > > eliminating " tempting " signifciators, I think it is good to

have

> > less

> > > than 9 planets (ideally, three or four?) in the RP set. I have

> seen

> > > definitions that most often yield all 9 planets.

> > >

> > > Please share your experience/expertise.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rangarajan

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Dear R Satish

Please see Mr L.Y.Rao,s posting in the matter. I agree with it

good luckrsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote:

Dear Sri Raichur and friends,In the standardRPs we have on an average 5 planets to represent Day lord,etc.Additionally,we are considering adding 2 more, the sublords of Moon and Asc.Besides these we consider Rahu and Ketu.Then as mentioned in KP and Astros.. we have to consider planets aspecting RPs,if any.Add all these ,we end up having all 9 planets to consider.The difficulty for learners is to give priorities/sequence.Books say consider the 4 most important,which ones? Eliminating low priority planets has to by guidelines.May I request experienced and seniors, to help unravel the 'Chakravyuha',to novices like me for eg.Regards,Satish

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Rangrajan ji,

 

I personally don't take RPs mathematically. I take all the planets which have impact on Ascendant and Moon. So I also take any planet located in ascendant and moon sign and aspecting ascendant and moon. I found it is working for me.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 6/15/05, Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote:

Dear Shri. Raichur and Members,I am trying to find out if there is common agreement amongst us

regarding what constitute Ruling Planets. I have read several versionsand therefore wonder which one is really recommended for use. Insteadof discussing the various versions, I am explaining one version here.If you feel this requires changes, please give your suggestion. At the

end of this exercise it would be nice to have consensus on someversion that will work (not just for some, but for most if not all). When the astrologer takes up a chart for study (we assume there isreal urge), the following five planets are noted down:

1) Asc star lord2) Asc sublord3) Moon star lord4) Moon sub lord5) Day lordFor deciding the Day lord, we use 5:30 am as the threshold. That is,if we check at 4 am on a Wednesday, the Day lord will be Wednesday,

not Thursday.If Rahu/Ketu is conjoined with, aspected by (Vedic aspects), or in thesign of any of the above five RPs, include the corresponding node as well.Since we use RPs very frequently for important tasks such as

eliminating " tempting " signifciators, I think it is good to have lessthan 9 planets (ideally, three or four?) in the RP set. I have seendefinitions that most often yield all 9 planets. Please share your experience/expertise.

Regards,Rangarajan