Analysis of Bhatt's Examples Using BRTs

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth

rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his

three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less

than 30% of the charts!

 

What can we conclude?

 

A document with the results has been uploaded.

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

[Guest guest]

Rangrajan ji,

 

You are doing great service to the KP community. That too very aggressively. Hats off for it. Keep it up.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 6/1/05, Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote:

Dear Members,I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less than 30% of the charts! What can we conclude?A document with the results has been uploaded.Regards,Rangarajan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Punit,

Thanks. This has been possible through the generous help of many

members. It is not a single person's efforts.

 

Since brith rectification is so fundamental to the use of natal

charts, I am requesting members to contribute whatever each can. I can

help by providing computational support.

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

 

, Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Rangrajan ji,

> You are doing great service to the KP community. That too very

> aggressively. Hats off for it. Keep it up.

> Thanks & Regards,

> Punit Pandey

>

> On 6/1/05, Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth

> > rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his

> > three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less

> > than 30% of the charts!

> >

> > What can we conclude?

> >

> > A document with the results has been uploaded.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rangarajan

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > *

[Guest guest]

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

<ranga@m...> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth

> rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his

> three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less

> than 30% of the charts!

>

> What can we conclude?

>

> A document with the results has been uploaded.

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

[Guest guest]

TW,

There is nothing in this posting. Am I missing anything?

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

 

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

> <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> > I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth

> > rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his

> > three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less

> > than 30% of the charts!

> >

> > What can we conclude?

> >

> > A document with the results has been uploaded.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rangarajan

[Guest guest]

Dear Rangarajan,

 

1. Regarding Bhatt's charts, acceptance ratios are 89% (C-1) by Asc

Sbl-Moon Stl connection Rule, 21% By CKV Rule and 28% by Annat Topkar

Rule. Skewness of Asc Sbl-Moon Stl connection rule towards aceeptance

and CKV Rule towards rejection has been already found. It's worthy to

note that Annat Topkar Rule's acceptance ratio for 253 AA records is

also 26% only, and but as pper Kanak's RP test results 8 out of 10 AA

records are acceptable as correct, i.e. 80% acceptance ratio.(I'm

still waiting for second portion of Kanak's results to give comment on

his RP test results.)

 

2. That is why it is better to check whether Annat Topkar Rule appears

skewed towards rejection by widening time deviation from AA records as

done before in the rules of Asc Sbl-Moon Stl connection and CKV.

 

3. Another thing is how can the number of childbirth per minute 30 in

India (1999) and 265 in the world (mid-2003) can be reconciled with

the following assumptions of Annat Topkar Rule.

 

The BASIC assuption is " A HUMAN BIRTH TAKES PLACE EVERy 3 Minutes

after Sunrise " .

 

THE BASIS OF THE METHOD is 'A HUMAN BIRTH TAKES PLACE EVERY SIX

MINUTES OF LOCAL TIME.

 

http://www.overpopulation.org/IndiaNews.html

BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | India rapped over birth bias

http://www.earthinstitute.columbia.edu/library/earthmatters/spring2000/

pages/page14.html

columbia.edu/itc/.../despommier/ecology/RH-population

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

<ranga@m...> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth

> rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his

> three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less

> than 30% of the charts!

>

> What can we conclude?

>

> A document with the results has been uploaded.

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

[Guest guest]

Dear Tin win ji,

>1. Regarding Bhatt's charts, acceptance ratios are 89% (C-1) by Asc>Sbl-Moon Stl connection Rule, 21% By CKV Rule and 28% by Annat Topkar>Rule. Skewness of Asc Sbl-Moon Stl connection rule towards aceeptance>and CKV Rule towards rejection has been already found. It's worthy to>note that Annat Topkar Rule's acceptance ratio for 253 AA records is>also 26% only, and but as pper Kanak's RP test results 8 out of 10 AA>records are acceptable as correct, i.e. 80% acceptance ratio.(I'm>still waiting for second portion of Kanak's results to give comment on>his RP test results.)

some doubt rise by ron gount so i stoped my work till member's clear view not come.now we have some options:

(1) work up to 2 leavel RP(sign and star)

(2) work with only AAratede data

this work is time consuming and if no one have intrest why should we west time and energy ?

Shri Raichur ji suggest me to go ahead with one day one data even it will take time.also he sugest to check 100 data is sufficient

i have no problem to continue this work i am still ready for this reaserch work .

 

regards

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[Guest guest]

Dear TW,

Regarding your point(2), I think it is a good idea to check Topkar's

rejection ratio.

 

Reg (3), You are right, I don't understand the assumption.

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

[Guest guest]

In the Topekars Rule the assumption is 1 human per 6 min. of Local Time.

 

Since in India the Local time varies by about 2hours From East Coast to West

 

theoretcally this would give 120/6 20 births at the same time all over India.

 

Although the hypothesis cannot be proved, it could be accepted for testing the

rule.

 

The other Basic is that the SEX of the child born changes every six minutes.

 

Again a hypothesis. We just use it to test

 

..

 

 

--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

> Dear Rangarajan,

>

> 1. Regarding Bhatt's charts, acceptance ratios are 89% (C-1) by Asc

> Sbl-Moon Stl connection Rule, 21% By CKV Rule and 28% by Annat Topkar

> Rule. Skewness of Asc Sbl-Moon Stl connection rule towards aceeptance

> and CKV Rule towards rejection has been already found. It's worthy to

> note that Annat Topkar Rule's acceptance ratio for 253 AA records is

> also 26% only, and but as pper Kanak's RP test results 8 out of 10 AA

> records are acceptable as correct, i.e. 80% acceptance ratio.(I'm

> still waiting for second portion of Kanak's results to give comment on

> his RP test results.)

>

> 2. That is why it is better to check whether Annat Topkar Rule appears

> skewed towards rejection by widening time deviation from AA records as

> done before in the rules of Asc Sbl-Moon Stl connection and CKV.

>

> 3. Another thing is how can the number of childbirth per minute 30 in

> India (1999) and 265 in the world (mid-2003) can be reconciled with

> the following assumptions of Annat Topkar Rule.

>

> The BASIC assuption is " A HUMAN BIRTH TAKES PLACE EVERy 3 Minutes

> after Sunrise " .

>

> THE BASIS OF THE METHOD is 'A HUMAN BIRTH TAKES PLACE EVERY SIX

> MINUTES OF LOCAL TIME.

>

> http://www.overpopulation.org/IndiaNews.html

> BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | India rapped over birth bias

> http://www.earthinstitute.columbia.edu/library/earthmatters/spring2000/

> pages/page14.html

> columbia.edu/itc/.../despommier/ecology/RH-population

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

>

> , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

> <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> > I applied the " Connection " , CKV and Anant Topkar rules of birth

> > rectification on 87 examples discussed by Chandrakant Bhatt in his

> > three volumes. Barring the first rule, the remaining two pass less

> > than 30% of the charts!

> >

> > What can we conclude?

> >

> > A document with the results has been uploaded.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rangarajan

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Kanak ji,

 

1. First of all, let me congratulate for your effort as the first

person (hopefully not the last)in our group practically doing RP test

other than words.

 

2. Here TOBs are a fixed term and they are assumed as a variable term

by taking + & - 10 minutes. RPs are a variable term as a function of

time, location, person doing the test, different level of will or

desire to know the result and so on.

 

3. Depending on the purpose of the test the approach may be different.

If the purpose is whether AA TOBs are correct, the same TOB should be

tested again and again by the same person at different days and times

or preferrably by different people of more than three. Consistent

rejections will indicate incorrcetness of AA TOB under the test or

consistent acceptance will show correcteness of the AA TOB.

 

4. If the purpose is whether RP Method is reliable for rectification

of TOBs, the test can be continued as you've done with time deviation

of TOBs. As per the results you've got so far, the RP Method is not

crazy for accuracy of:

 

a) + or - 10 minute in the 2nd AA TOB;

b) + 10 min in the 3rd AA TOB;

c) - 10 min in the 7th AA TOB;

d) + 10 min in the 10th AA TOB;

e) in general, 10 min deviation in 4 out of 10 AA TOBs.

 

5. By doing more samples and taking more time deviation, we can see

more interseting results. Cent percent accuracy cannot be expected.

 

" It may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the

effects of his past deeds and is free agent as regards his deeds which

are in no way dierected to thwart, arrest, alter or in any modify or

remould the effects of his Karma. " (KP Reader II, 1983, p 19)

 

If and only if verything is destined by past Karma, cent percent

accuracy will be possible as per logical reasoning.

 

6. By doing the test repeatedly at different dates and times, the

doubt of the same common plantes will be solved. For the second doubt

two versions of RPs may be applied, i.e. as per original KSK (as

mentioned by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi in KP Year Book 2005, p 28) and the

extended version with sublords.

 

7. Please continue your test by any way of your convenience to see

more intersting results and in this regrd I'm ready to assist whatever

I can.

 

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

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Dear Tin Win ji,

Thank you very mutch .

I am start work with only AArated data.bcoz mostly data are same in -10 and + 10

ie. : Date of birth: 16-Jan-1935 [1:25:0]Lat: 29:46 NorthLongt: 95:22 WestTZone: -6, TMode: Standard, DST: 0

ASC (Libra - 12:22:10): Ve - Ra - Sa - JuMOON (Taurus - 25:15:35): Ve - Ma - Ra - Me

ASC (Libra - 10:13:42): Ve - Ra - Ju - RaMOON (Taurus - 25:10:26): Ve - Ma - Ra - Me

ASC (Libra - 14:30:24): Ve - Ra - Ke - VeMOON (Taurus - 25:20:45): Ve - Ma - Ra - Kenow see this data mosty are same if one match then other two also match. this time frame 10 Mnts is very nerrow. if we check for 30 Mnt. then we found very correct picture.

so i do my work with only AArated data.

i know no one has intrest in this reaserch. only Raichur ji ( Raichur ji made some changes in his software and suggest me on phone who to use very easily) and Rangarajan ji(calculet all Asc. for this reaserch ).I am finish my work today evening and upload file.

regards

kanak>"tw853" <tw853> > > Re: Analysis of Bhatt's Examples Using BRTs>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:22:54 -0000>>Dear Kanak ji,>>1. First of all, let me congratulate for your effort as the first>person (hopefully not the last)in our group practically doing RP test>other than words.>>2. Here TOBs are a fixed term and they are assumed as a variable term>by taking + & - 10 minutes. RPs are a variable term as a function of>time, location, person doing the test, different level of will or>desire to know the result and so on.>>3. Depending on the purpose of the test the approach may be different.>If the purpose is whether AA TOBs are correct, the same TOB should be>tested again and again by the same person at different days and times>or preferrably by different people of more than three. Consistent>rejections will indicate incorrcetness of AA TOB under the test or>consistent acceptance will show correcteness of the AA TOB.>>4. If the purpose is whether RP Method is reliable for rectification>of TOBs, the test can be continued as you've done with time deviation>of TOBs. As per the results you've got so far, the RP Method is not>crazy for accuracy of:>>a) + or - 10 minute in the 2nd AA TOB;>b) + 10 min in the 3rd AA TOB;>c) - 10 min in the 7th AA TOB;>d) + 10 min in the 10th AA TOB;>e) in general, 10 min deviation in 4 out of 10 AA TOBs.>>5. By doing more samples and taking more time deviation, we can see>more interseting results. Cent percent accuracy cannot be expected.>>"It may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the>effects of his past deeds and is free agent as regards his deeds which>are in no way dierected to thwart, arrest, alter or in any modify or>remould the effects of his Karma." (KP Reader II, 1983, p 19)>>If and only if verything is destined by past Karma, cent percent>accuracy will be possible as per logical reasoning.>>6. By doing the test repeatedly at different dates and times, the>doubt of the same common plantes will be solved. For the second doubt>two versions of RPs may be applied, i.e. as per original KSK (as>mentioned by Shri Kuppu Ganapathi in KP Year Book 2005, p 28) and the>extended version with sublords.>>7. Please continue your test by any way of your convenience to see>more intersting results and in this regrd I'm ready to assist whatever>I can.>>>Thanks and regards,>>tw>>>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>>> Find e-mail and documents on your PC instantly with the new MSN Search Toolbar–FREE!