If the sublord of the Ascendant tells theMoon'sstarlord

May 21, 2005

Dear Kanak

This sounds correct. The Birth time is correct if "the ASC Sub lord

is 'some how 'connected to the Star", it is possible. It is even

true in my own horoscope. We need to study Many examples to check this

rule.

Regards

Abhay

anant raichur wrote:

dear evencio Check of birth time is usually

done by the Ruling Planet Method. This is based on the assumption, that

RPs at Birth are the same, as they are when any question is asked by the

querrent. The second method is that at Birth, the ASC Sub lord is

'some how 'connected to the Star lord of the Moon. The

best being that the ASC sub lord IS the Moon's star Lord. It is not always

necessary that the MOON star be the Sub of the Ascendent. I have

just now answered a querry, where the Asc Sub lord is KETU, and Moon star

is Venus. Ketu isconjunct with Venus, and thus represents Venus.

So the Moon Star and Asc sub are connected, and SO the Birth Time is correct. IN

spite of all these methods, ONLY when you verify the timing of Known past

events can you really say "Bitrh time is CORRECT "

evencio mendes <iupter108 wrote:

L.Y.Rao.1-

The stay one day in a star all day long (ex mirgshira-Mars)2- Asc stay

in a star from 52 min to 58 min depending of the latitude and season.3-

During this 52-58 min the person can be born only when the Asc is in the

sub corresponding to Mars.4- For people of the same city (ex. Mumbai) ,

birth will happen only when the ascendant is in the sub corresponding to

the moon star, only that fraction of the5-the sub of Mars is of 46min40

second , the ascendant takes 3 min. to pass Mars sub6- During that day

every 52-58 minutes , births happen only during 3min .aprox. The question

is, if it work truly.Evencio---

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear

Evencio,

Either you've not read the entire reply,properly,or read only part of it,or

not understood the reply completely...or,you've got it all wrong...!

1) The sublord of the Ascendant will change very frequently,as the degree

of the Ascendant will change every 4 minutes apptroximately..

2) The sub-lord of the ascendant will last for a fraction of a minute...

3) The Moon stays in a star for approximately 24 hours...but,the

sub will change very frequently...

Yours 'ly,

lyrastro1.

evencio mendes <iupter108 wrote:

L.Y.Rao.Sorry

but I cant understand this statement:

If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope

erected is very correct...

As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter,...The

moon stay almost one day in one nakshatra, during all that day , people

born only if the sub of the ascendant is the same as the moon?Example:Moon

is in Mrigshira (ruled by mars)During all that all people in the world

will only born if they have Asc. cusp in sub of mars?Is it?Evencio

vijay thirumalai <vijaythirumalai wrote:

Dear

friends, Is it alright if star lord of ascendant is moon starlord

to check birthtime verification? In my horoscope the sub lord of ascendant(Aries)

is Kethu which is with venus in cancer sign bu in 3rd house.Ascendant is

Mars sign, Venus lord and kethu sublord. Moon is in Aries sign Venus lord

and jup sublord in 12th house. If i adjust time it varies to a great extent.

Can any one suggest how to rectify in this case. Vijay

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear

Mr.Udupa,

If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope

erected is very correct...

As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter,Birth

Time Verification...

I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial &

error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of

the MOON...

The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate...

Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness

of the chart...please...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote:

Dear

RG, I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method

was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available

with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many

many thanks.regards,Udupa

R G <rg_bharat wrote:

Procedure

is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to

book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications

Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give

very good and accurate results.Roopeshwar Gupta

AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote:

Dear

Shi RG What is the procedure for birthtime checking?Thank

you in advance.Regards,Udupa

SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:

Dear

Roopeshwar Gupta, Thanks

a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the

native. Thanks &

Regards,Upadhyaya

-

R G

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08

PM

Re: Accident,

Marriage ?

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I

have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha.

Birth

time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through

its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is

checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes.

Asc

sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status

it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also

signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL).

Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at

its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to

5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level.

Accident

On

6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was

running.

Moon

is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the

significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub

and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating

the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th

cusp, indicating accident.

Rahu

SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup

Ket

is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the

results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th

cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses.

Jup

is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly

indicating accident.

Mercury

Mer

is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun

Jup

has already been discussed above.

Rah

is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp,

signifying visit to hospital.

Sun

is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th

cusp.

Ven

at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited),

3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification

is not strong.

Ven

is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat.

Ven

is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th

cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord.

Jup

SL of Ven has already been discussed above.

Sat

SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly

signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th

cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital.

If

at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident.

If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of

accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th

SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating

6th cusp).

Recovery

For

recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th

cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose

Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery

process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven

who is not likely to help in recovery.

SSL

of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying

strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005

to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast.

Mar

is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars

(20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully.

Marriage

The

native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to

21.1.-2006)

Moon

as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th

cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are

favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th,

9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong

for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because

3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and

10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th

and 11th cusp.

Rahu

is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing

the chances of marriage.

Mars

has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord

of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp

as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for

marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th

cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly

favouring the marriage.

Mars

is also sub-lord of 9th cusp.

The

above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during

dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is

SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm

stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp,

hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended.

Roopeshwar

Gupta

SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:

Dear

RG,

Thank you for your inputs.

For better understanding of your comments, what is the

reason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.

Regards and Thanks

Upadhyaya

--- R G <rg_bharat wrote:

> Hello

> She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005

> She has weak chances of getting married. She should

> worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help

> her in getting married. The possibility of getting

> married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules

> out.

> RG

> SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:

> Dear Members,

>

> I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with

> an

> accident on

> 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had

> undergone

> surgery and on bed

> rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor

> accidents since 2003.

>

> This girl is still unmarried.

>

> DOB: 6-8-1967

> TOB: 22:30

> Lat: 12N52

> Lon: 74E53

>

> 1) Will she get married?

> 2) When will she recover?

>

> Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments.

>

> Analysis

> 1) Marriage

> 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined

> to

> get married.

> Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not

> feeling well).

>

> 2) Accident

>

> 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and

> marakastana => native

> will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys?

>

> The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me.

>

> Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant

> and

> lord of 12 => danger

> to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju

> grace

> should have helped

> the native.

>

> Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is

> promised.

>

> Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic.

> Both these planets are

> danger to life. Ma is also a maraka.

> Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke

> represents Ve, 8 lord. So

> danger to life.

>

> Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh

> (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)).

>

> Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by

> significators of 5, 11.

>

---------

> 5 Bud-Bud Cha

Sur

>

Cha

>

Gur

>

> Bud

>

---------

> 11 Cha-San San

>

---------

>

> Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa

>

> The native would get fully recovered during the

> Mo-Ju.

>

> Regards,

> Upadhyaya

>

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May 21, 2005

Dear Kanak

This sounds correct. The Birth time is correct if "the ASC Sub lord

is 'some how 'connected to the Moon's Star Lord", it is possible.

It is even true in my own horoscope. We need to study Many examples to

check this rule.

Regards

Abhay

anant raichur wrote:

dear evencio Check of birth time is usually

done by the Ruling Planet Method. This is based on the assumption, that

RPs at Birth are the same, as they are when any question is asked by the

querrent. The second method is that at Birth, the ASC Sub lord is

'some

how 'connected to the Star lord of the Moon. The best being that

the ASC sub lord IS the Moon's star Lord. It is not always necessary

that the MOON star be the Sub of the Ascendent. I have just now answered

a querry, where the Asc Sub lord is KETU, and Moon star is Venus.

Ketu isconjunct with Venus, and thus represents Venus. So the Moon Star

and Asc sub are connected, and SO the Birth Time is correct. IN spite of

all these methods, ONLY when you verify the timing of Known past events

can you really say "Bitrh time is CORRECT "