Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Members, After reading Shri.Lajmi's posting # 4473 I managed to locate the actual reference in my Astro Secrets and KP, Part-2, 2003 Edition, Pages 80 - 85. For everyone's benefit, I am quoting the relevant section from the chapter by M.P.Shanmugham. <Begin Quote> 2. If one has to know, whether the given birth time is correct or wrong, the method is the birth Lagna Cusp Sub Lord, should tell the birth star, or the Moon Sign directly or in one way or the other. To tell the very birth Star will be more correct. 3. The birth Lagna Sub Lord - should tell the birth a) The birth Lagna Sub Lord itself may be the birth star b) The birth Lagna Sub Lord in whose constellation it is that constellation Lord of Sub Lord may come as the birth Star. c) The birth Lagna Sub Lord in whose constellation it is, that constellation Lord - area has to be looked up to Sookshma level - which will be the birth Star. That is Lagna Sub Lord is in a Star - then Sub - the Sub Sub - then Sub Sub Sub Sub Dasa Bukthi Antara Sookshama d) The birth Lagna Sub in which Sub it is - that Sub will be in Star - Sub - Sub Sub - Sub Sub Sub - here we must take the Sub - Sub Sub Sub - which should tell the birth Star. A birth has several stages like first cry, placed on earth (boopadhana) Siras Udhayam, Normal delivery, Caessarean and so on. Under such circumstances you cannot stick to one method of thinking alone. As the birth Lagna Sub Lord has interconnection to the four levels as explained above, this Lagna Sub Lord if it is in any manner touches the birth Star, that time is the correct birth time. You may have to work up to Sookshma level at times. <End Quote> Here is my understanding of the rule (I am going only upto subsub): Let A be Asc Sublord. B is A's starlord, C is A's sublord, D is A's subsublord. E is C's starlord, F is C's sublord, G is C's subsublord. Planets A through G should be Moon's starlord or should be in Moon sign. Is the above paraphrasing correct? It would be nice if astrologers who have found this principle to work for them can explain this rule and correct my understanding. Regards, Rangarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Ranagarajan ji, give you one prectical example. today 23/05/2005 and MOON is in the star of JUP up to 16.24 ---------DATE MONDAY 23 5 2005 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 21 H. 32 M. 49 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 2 8 8 13 Ven Sun Ven : NO END MOON 7 26 54 50 Ven Jup Ven : ends at 08:40)MOON 1 8 3 59 19 Mar Sat Sat : MARS 11 21 56 26 Sat Jup Sat : NO END MERC 1 25 2 17 Mar Ven Mer : ends at 15:52)(Ven-Ket 25:20)JUP. -R 6 15 21 0 Mer Moo Jup : NO end VEN. 2 21 54 54 Ven Moo Ven : ends at 20:15)SAT. 3 29 46 27 Mer Jup Moo : NO END RAHU -R 12 26 57 42 Jup Mer Jup : NO end KETU -R 6 26 57 42 Mer Mar Jup : NO end URAN 11 16 42 31 Sat Rah Ven : NO END NEPT -R 10 23 46 19 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Jup-Sun 09:53)(Jup-Moo 11:45)(Jup-Mar 13:03)(Jup-Rah 16:24) (Sat-Sat 19:58)(Sat-Mer 23:10)(Sat-Ket 24:30)(Sat-Ven 28:16) (Sat-Sun 29:24)--------- Total Asc. sub are not more then 9. we check all planet. JUP is in the sign of MER star of MOON and SUB of JUP.KET is conj with JUP. RAH ,VEN,SUN aspected by JUP.MAR and SAT is in the star of JUP. so todays total nine Asc. Sub are anyway connection with Moon's Starlord. After 16.24.Moon is in SAT sub. now we check for SAT anyway connection with all nine planet. SAT is in the sign of MER star of JUP and sub of MOON. MAR is in the sign and star of SAT and RAH aspected by SAT. I dontfind SAT's connection with SUN and KET. so that means today after 16:24 no one bourn with this two sub.is it possible? You are a person who related with maths like Raichur ji I request you to check this not this but for any day you can found anyway connection with Mon's starlord. Your reply is very valuable for me. regards kanak>"Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" <ranga> > > Asc Sublord and Moon Connection - Shanmugham's Article>Mon, 23 May 2005 04:23:48 -0000>>Dear Members,>After reading Shri.Lajmi's posting # 4473 I managed to locate the>actual reference in my Astro Secrets and KP, Part-2, 2003 Edition,>Pages 80 - 85. For everyone's benefit, I am quoting the relevant>section from the chapter by M.P.Shanmugham.>><Begin Quote>>2. If one has to know, whether the given birth time is correct or>wrong, the method is the birth Lagna Cusp Sub Lord, should tell the>birth star, or the Moon Sign directly or in one way or the other. To>tell the very birth Star will be more correct.>3. The birth Lagna Sub Lord - should tell the birth>a) The birth Lagna Sub Lord itself may be the birth star>b) The birth Lagna Sub Lord in whose constellation it is that>constellation Lord of Sub Lord may come as the birth Star.>c) The birth Lagna Sub Lord in whose constellation it is, that>constellation Lord - area has to be looked up to Sookshma level ->which will be the birth Star.>That is Lagna Sub Lord is in a>Star - then Sub - the Sub Sub - then Sub Sub Sub Sub>Dasa Bukthi Antara Sookshama>>d) The birth Lagna Sub in which Sub it is - that Sub will be in>Star - Sub - Sub Sub - Sub Sub Sub - here we must take the Sub - Sub>Sub Sub - which should tell the birth Star.>>A birth has several stages like first cry, placed on earth>(boopadhana) Siras Udhayam, Normal delivery, Caessarean and so on.>Under such circumstances you cannot stick to one method of thinking>alone.>>As the birth Lagna Sub Lord has interconnection to the four levels>as explained above, this Lagna Sub Lord if it is in any manner>touches the birth Star, that time is the correct birth time. You may>have to work up to Sookshma level at times.><End Quote>>>Here is my understanding of the rule (I am going only upto subsub):>Let A be Asc Sublord.>B is A's starlord, C is A's sublord, D is A's subsublord.>E is C's starlord, F is C's sublord, G is C's subsublord.>>Planets A through G should be Moon's starlord or should be in Moon>sign.>>Is the above paraphrasing correct? It would be nice if astrologers>who have found this principle to work for them can explain this rule>and correct my understanding.>>Regards,>Rangarajan>> Download your favorite songs at MSN Music - Over 1 million songs for just 99¢ each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Kanakji, I wrote a program to determine when a connection does NOT exist between Asc sublord and Moon starlord on 23rd May, at Chennai. I have uploaded a file called birth-time-verification.doc to the files section. Please look thru the file. If you notice any mistakes I might have made or you would like a different type of result, just let me know. Regards, Rangarajan , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Kanak ji, If we are going into sub-sub level, connections can be established. For SUN : Sun is in sub and sub-sub of Venus, and Venus is in sub-sub of Saturn. For Ketu : Ketu in the star of Mars. Mars is in sub and sub-sub of Saturn. Please see. Inder , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Rangarajanji, Not for any one place we calculet for any place the sub are only 9 not more then 9.and i prove that most of time 90% moon start lord any way conection with Asc. sub you can found so that means rectification not require. and if you found no conection with moon star Is it posiible that during this time no bay born.? What I want is Please check my calculation for today and give your reply Am i right or wrong? I will check you calculationand give your reply today night regards kanak>"Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" <ranga> > > Re: Asc Sublord and Moon Connection - Shanmugham's Article>Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:30 -0000>>Dear Kanakji,>I wrote a program to determine when a connection does NOT exist>between Asc sublord and Moon starlord on 23rd May, at Chennai. I have>uploaded a file called birth-time-verification.doc to the files>section. Please look thru the file.>>If you notice any mistakes I might have made or you would like a>different type of result, just let me know.>>Regards,>Rangarajan>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>> Download your favorite songs at MSN Music - Over 1 million songs for just 99¢ each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Ranagarajan ji, How can we findout anyway conection.? Asc, sub is "A" Moon star is "B" (1)Any planetIn the sign,star,sub,sub-sub in "B" (2)"B" in the signlord , starlord sublord ,sub sublord are conected with B (3)Planete Aspected by "B" (4)if RAH and KET as a agent of "B" then any planet in the star sub or subsub of RAH,KET If you check this 4 conection you dont found any given time wrong. regards kanak>"Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" <ranga> > > Re: Asc Sublord and Moon Connection - Shanmugham's Article>Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:30 -0000>>Dear Kanakji,>I wrote a program to determine when a connection does NOT exist>between Asc sublord and Moon starlord on 23rd May, at Chennai. I have>uploaded a file called birth-time-verification.doc to the files>section. Please look thru the file.>>If you notice any mistakes I might have made or you would like a>different type of result, just let me know.>>Regards,>Rangarajan>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>> With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Kanakji, OK, I will include points (3) and (4) as you have mentioned and recalculate. For aspects, I will use vedic aspects. Regards, Rangarajan , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Ranagarajan ji, thanks regards kanak>"Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" <ranga> > > Re: Asc Sublord and Moon Connection - Shanmugham's Article>Mon, 23 May 2005 13:12:00 -0000>>Dear Kanakji,>OK, I will include points (3) and (4) as you have mentioned and>recalculate. For aspects, I will use vedic aspects.>>Regards,>Rangarajan>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>> Download your favorite songs at MSN Music - Over 1 million songs for just 99¢ each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Inder, This is my point if we calculet like this all time found correct. regards kanak>"Inder" <indervohra2001> > > Re: Asc Sublord and Moon Connection - Shanmugham's Article>Mon, 23 May 2005 10:51:08 -0000>>Dear Kanak ji,>If we are going into sub-sub level, connections can be established.>>For SUN : Sun is in sub and sub-sub of Venus, and Venus is in sub-sub>of Saturn.>>For Ketu : Ketu in the star of Mars. Mars is in sub and sub-sub of>Saturn.>>Please see.>Inder>>> , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...>>wrote:> >>>>> With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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