Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear friends, I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks. In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is focussed on sub-sub. Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing. [we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand] But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing correct sub-sub. In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get different sub-sub at other cusps. Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not become popular and verifyable. Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti. Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then antralord may not have any power. In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give wrong interpretations. It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on sub, as doen in KP. Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear Mr. Inder Fur using sub sub lords concept, correct birth time (correct to last second) is essential. Recently 3rd book of Mr. Khullar book 'Your True horoscope' has come out. It is basically on correction of birth time. Perheps it will better if this book is refered first. Mr. Khullar has his own web site. Link is given below. http://www.khullarastrologyinstitute.com/courses.htm Roopeshwar GuptaInder <indervohra2001 wrote: Dear friends,I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks.In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is focussed on sub-sub.Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing.[we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand]But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing correct sub-sub.In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get different sub-sub at other cusps.Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not become popular and verifyable.Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti.Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then antralord may not have any power.In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give wrong interpretations.It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on sub, as doen in KP. Inder Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Inder, There has been some discussion on Khullar's approach earlier in this group. If you are serious about cuspal interlinks theory, you sould read the books by K.Baskaran of Madurai. In my opinion Shri.Khullar has derived inspiration from and based his ideas on the works of Baskaran. I also believe that just to be different from Baskaran, Khullar has laid emphasis on sub-sub whereas Baskaran still uses sub. Most of us know that when sub-sub is taken, a majority of the software exhibit differences and it is dificult to know which is correct. Also as you have observed correctly, a slight change in birthtime will potentially change the subsub lord. I am not sure if Khullar's ideas are fully tested and verified (even by him). Regards, Rangarajan , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear friends, > I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks. > > In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is > focussed on sub-sub. > Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with > inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing. > > [we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand] > > But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of > time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and > Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing > correct sub-sub. > In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are > not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get > exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others > interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get > different sub-sub at other cusps. > Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not > become popular and verifyable. > > Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti. > Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only > as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then > antralord may not have any power. > > In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star > lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position > of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give > wrong interpretations. > > It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is > important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not > not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on > sub, as doen in KP. > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Inder, The maxim of Guruji KSK was..."keep it simple"...but,I'm afraid,in the exercise of too much "fine-tuning" several methods like the sub-sub theory,the cuspal links and many other off-shoots have come about... Soon,perhaps some K.P. follower somewhere could even extoll a "new finding" regarding the great accuracy obtained with use of the sub-sub-sub-sub...and so on...to ridiculous lengths,all in the name of "research"...! ! In my experience there is very little difference in the respective accuracies od the results obtained by the sub,the sub-sub, or even the sub-sub-sub...! Personally,I recommend the one with which one is most comfortable with...and no great case be made out in favour of one over the other...which in my opinion is only an exeercise in "hair-splitting" ultimately the result is only slightly more, or less accurate ...! Once again I would recommend members to read the articles "the Craze for accuracy" by Mr.A.R.Raichur...!(1977 Annual)... I also recommend research-oriented scholars to examine whether,if the sub denies ,will the sub-sub or the sub-sub-sub promise to fructify the event ? if so I would like to know about such experiences...! ! ("an interesting research project ?,and whether Khullar also gives such examples..." ) With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !R G <rg_bharat wrote: Dear Mr. Inder Fur using sub sub lords concept, correct birth time (correct to last second) is essential. Recently 3rd book of Mr. Khullar book 'Your True horoscope' has come out. It is basically on correction of birth time. Perheps it will better if this book is refered first. Mr. Khullar has his own web site. Link is given below. http://www.khullarastrologyinstitute.com/courses.htm Roopeshwar GuptaInder <indervohra2001 wrote: Dear friends,I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks.In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is focussed on sub-sub.Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing.[we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand]But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing correct sub-sub.In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get different sub-sub at other cusps.Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not become popular and verifyable.Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti.Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then antralord may not have any power.In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give wrong interpretations.It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on sub, as doen in KP. Inder Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Rangarajan, I will try get Baskaran Book. I am thinking for any house we see the Sub , Star and Sign; and planet posted in the bhava. But for signification of that house we consider Sign lord [if the house is vacant]. Should not we consider Star lord or sub lord particularly if that house is vacant. Suppose 7th cusp is Sat-Jup-Venus. 7th house Aquarius is vacant. Then planets in the stars of Saturn are consudered signfying 7th house. Should not we take in the star of Jup or Venus also signfying 7th. That means planets in the sub of Venus or in the stars of Venus can give marriage in their period. Inder , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " <ranga@m...> wrote: > Dear Inder, > There has been some discussion on Khullar's approach earlier in this > group. If you are serious about cuspal interlinks theory, you sould > read the books by K.Baskaran of Madurai. In my opinion Shri.Khullar > has derived inspiration from and based his ideas on the works of > Baskaran. I also believe that just to be different from Baskaran, > Khullar has laid emphasis on sub-sub whereas Baskaran still uses sub. > Most of us know that when sub-sub is taken, a majority of the software > exhibit differences and it is dificult to know which is correct. Also > as you have observed correctly, a slight change in birthtime will > potentially change the subsub lord. I am not sure if Khullar's ideas > are fully tested and verified (even by him). > > Regards, > Rangarajan > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks. > > > > In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is > > focussed on sub-sub. > > Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with > > inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing. > > > > [we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand] > > > > But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of > > time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and > > Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing > > correct sub-sub. > > In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are > > not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get > > exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others > > interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get > > different sub-sub at other cusps. > > Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not > > become popular and verifyable. > > > > Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti. > > Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only > > as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then > > antralord may not have any power. > > > > In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star > > lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position > > of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give > > wrong interpretations. > > > > It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is > > important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not > > not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on > > sub, as doen in KP. > > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Lajmiji, Another interesting thing given by Sh Khullar is regarding taking 9th house for multiple marriages or relations. He has not given much explaination to this. Also he takes 5th house for marriage and gives less importance to 2nd house considering 2nd as 8th from 7th. Inder , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Inder, > The maxim of Guruji KSK was... " keep it simple " ...but,I'm afraid,in the exercise of too much " fine-tuning " several methods like the sub-sub theory,the cuspal links and many other off-shoots have come about... > Soon,perhaps some K.P. follower somewhere could even extoll a " new finding " regarding the great accuracy obtained with use of the sub-sub-sub-sub...and so on...to ridiculous lengths,all in the name of " research " ...! ! > In my experience there is very little difference in the respective accuracies od the results obtained by the sub,the sub- sub, or even the sub-sub-sub...! > Personally,I recommend the one with which one is most comfortable with...and no great case be made out in favour of one over the other...which in my opinion is only an exeercise in " hair-splitting " ultimately the result is only slightly more, or less accurate ...! > Once again I would recommend members to read the articles " the Craze for accuracy " by Mr.A.R.Raichur...!(1977 Annual)... > I also recommend research-oriented scholars to examine whether,if the sub denies ,will the sub-sub or the sub-sub- sub promise to fructify the event ? if so I would like to know about such experiences...! ! ( " an interesting research project ?,and whether Khullar also gives such examples... " ) > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > R G <rg_bharat> wrote: > Dear Mr. Inder > Fur using sub sub lords concept, correct birth time (correct to last second) is essential. Recently 3rd book of Mr. Khullar book 'Your True horoscope' has come out. It is basically on correction of birth time. Perheps it will better if this book is refered first. > Mr. Khullar has his own web site. Link is given below. > http://www.khullarastrologyinstitute.com/courses.htm > Roopeshwar Gupta > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear friends, > I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks. > > In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is > focussed on sub-sub. > Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with > inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing. > > [we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand] > > But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of > time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and > Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing > correct sub-sub. > In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are > not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get > exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others > interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get > different sub-sub at other cusps. > Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not > become popular and verifyable. > > Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti. > Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only > as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then > antralord may not have any power. > > In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star > lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position > of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give > wrong interpretations. > > It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is > important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not > not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on > sub, as doen in KP. > Inder > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Mr. Rangarajan I have read the books of Shri K Bhaskaran as well as Shri Khullar. I am regularly having discussions with Shri Khullar. I find Mr. Khullar theory more accorate particularly in horrary. After making time correction in natal charts, his theory is excellant. To follow his theory, almost all charts need time correction to last second. RGRangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Inder,There has been some discussion on Khullar's approach earlier in thisgroup. If you are serious about cuspal interlinks theory, you souldread the books by K.Baskaran of Madurai. In my opinion Shri.Khullarhas derived inspiration from and based his ideas on the works ofBaskaran. I also believe that just to be different from Baskaran,Khullar has laid emphasis on sub-sub whereas Baskaran still uses sub.Most of us know that when sub-sub is taken, a majority of the softwareexhibit differences and it is dificult to know which is correct. Alsoas you have observed correctly, a slight change in birthtime willpotentially change the subsub lord. I am not sure if Khullar's ideasare fully tested and verified (even by him).Regards,Rangarajan , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote:> Dear friends,> I am reading Sh SP Khullar's book on cuspal interlinks.> > In his theory Sub [or kalamsa] is important but more importance is > focussed on sub-sub.> Whole analysis of chart a done in KP is undergone change with > inclusion of sub-sub. And it has become confusing.> > [we can say if it is confusing then read more and try understand]> > But it is seen that sub-sub changes with very slight variation of > time which is difficult to record. sub -sub of Ketu, Moon, Mars and > Sun are so small that you are never sure if you are analysing > correct sub-sub.> In two or three charts when I am using sub-sub interlinks, these are > not matching with the results. Sometimes if we are lucky to get > exact sub-sub of lagna with the help of RPs or others > interpretations,, then also with slight variation of time you get > different sub-sub at other cusps.> Because of this lack of confidence, sub-sub interlinkages may not > become popular and verifyable.> > Sub-sub is equalivalent to antra and sub is equivelant to Bhukti.> Considering this ,we have to confine interpretations with sub only > as bhukti lord is most important of all. If bhukti lord negates then > antralord may not have any power.> > In the book with so many interlinkages shown with sub-sub with star > lord of any house and subs etc. With this it appears that position > of planets have almost lost its significance.This also may give > wrong interpretations.> > It is not that sub-sub is not important. Every minute differene is > important but interpretations based on sub-sub and linkages may not > not give proper results and may not be superior to that based on > sub, as doen in KP. > Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear RG, How do we correct birth time to the second to be able to use Khullar's approach? We have been discussing RP and Asc connection to Moon, etc. in this forum. Shri.Kadirvelu had earlier proposed a gender determination rule (which I had posted in this forum) that could be used for rectification, but this requires further verification. I suspect each of these techniques will yield different rectified times, so the problem does not really get solved. I am beginning to wonder if we should be asking " Is time T a possible birth time for a native if it satisfies life events E1, E2, etc.? " instead of asking " Was the native born precisely at time T? " It seems to me that the first question is more " workable " than the second. Regards, Rangarajan , R G <rg_bharat> wrote: > Mr. Rangarajan > I have read the books of Shri K Bhaskaran as well as Shri Khullar. I am regularly having discussions with Shri Khullar. I find Mr. Khullar theory more accorate particularly in horrary. After making time correction in natal charts, his theory is excellant. To follow his theory, almost all charts need time correction to last second. > RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Shri Rangarajan In to-days time because of computers, things have become very easy. Calculation for connecting desired houses for various life events have become very easy. If Shri Krishnamoorthy Jee would have had computer facility, he would have definitly took us to sub sub level (may beyound sub-sub level). His unfinished task is being completed by to-days astrologers. The technic for birth time correction has been suggested by Mr. S P Khullar in his third book 'Your True Horoscope' which has recently been released. There is not one technic Mr. Kullar has suggested, there are many combinations which have been discussed in the book. This is definitly not the end. We will come accross with many new astrologers who would givr us many more new things/ideas in astrology. Every new suggestion/study/findings shoud be carefully studied, checked and only than it should be followed or rejected. In this group discussion entire book can not be put on board. Roopeshwar Gupta Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear RG,How do we correct birth time to the second to be able to use Khullar'sapproach? We have been discussing RP and Asc connection to Moon, etc.in this forum. Shri.Kadirvelu had earlier proposed a genderdetermination rule (which I had posted in this forum) that could beused for rectification, but this requires further verification. Isuspect each of these techniques will yield different rectified times,so the problem does not really get solved.I am beginning to wonder if we should be asking "Is time T a possiblebirth time for a native if it satisfies life events E1, E2, etc.?"instead of asking "Was the native born precisely at time T?" It seems to me that the first question is more "workable" than the second.Regards,Rangarajan , R G <rg_bharat> wrote:> Mr. Rangarajan> I have read the books of Shri K Bhaskaran as well as Shri Khullar. Iam regularly having discussions with Shri Khullar. I find Mr. Khullartheory more accorate particularly in horrary. After making timecorrection in natal charts, his theory is excellant. To follow histheory, almost all charts need time correction to last second.> RG ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear RG, Thanks for your comments. I am not trying to find fault with Khullar or his work. I am saying that if " exact " time of birth is required for using the ideas he has outlined, it is going to be a major challenge since many of us in this group are trying to solve the problem of determining " exact " birth time. If he has proposed interesting rectification techniques in his book, then it is worthwhile experimenting with those. After ten years from now if we continue to talk about birth rectification, that would be disappointing in my humble opinion. Regards, Rangarajan , R G <rg_bharat> wrote: > Dear Shri Rangarajan > In to-days time because of computers, things have become very easy. Calculation for connecting desired houses for various life events have become very easy. If Shri Krishnamoorthy Jee would have had computer facility, he would have definitly took us to sub sub level (may beyound sub-sub level). His unfinished task is being completed by to-days astrologers. The technic for birth time correction has been suggested by Mr. S P Khullar in his third book 'Your True Horoscope' which has recently been released. There is not one technic Mr. Kullar has suggested, there are many combinations which have been discussed in the book. This is definitly not the end. We will come accross with many new astrologers who would givr us many more new things/ideas in astrology. Every new suggestion/study/findings shoud be carefully studied, checked and only than it should be followed or rejected. > In this group discussion entire book can not be put on board. > Roopeshwar Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Shri Rangarajan Thanks for your mail. What I feel Mr. Khullar has given some different techniques which are woth trying. Only after extensive tests of the system, authenticity can be verified. RGRangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear RG,Thanks for your comments. I am not trying to find fault with Khullar or his work. I am saying that if "exact" time of birth is required for using the ideas he has outlined, it is going to be a major challenge since many of us in this group are trying to solve the problem of determining "exact" birth time. If he has proposed interesting rectification techniques in his book, then it is worthwhile experimenting with those. After ten years from now if we continue to talk about birth rectification, that would be disappointing in my humble opinion.Regards,Rangarajan , R G <rg_bharat> wrote:> Dear Shri Rangarajan> In to-days time because of computers, things have become very easy. Calculation for connecting desired houses for various life events have become very easy. If Shri Krishnamoorthy Jee would have had computer facility, he would have definitly took us to sub sub level (may beyound sub-sub level). His unfinished task is being completed by to-days astrologers. The technic for birth time correction has been suggested by Mr. S P Khullar in his third book 'Your True Horoscope' which has recently been released. There is not one technic Mr. Kullar has suggested, there are many combinations which have been discussed in the book. This is definitly not the end. We will come accross with many new astrologers who would givr us many more new things/ideas in astrology. Every new suggestion/study/findings shoud be carefully studied, checked and only than it should be followed or rejected.> In this group discussion entire book can not be put on board. > Roopeshwar Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Rangarajanji As a member already experienced with Mr.Khuller's rectification,I am writing this to you.Many theories and many people they rectify the chart using some points they have discovered.While implementing this they dont clearly understand that the theory should be applicable in all cases and after applying that it should be reliable in all cases.If you take till sub-sub and argue that planets inter-connected in the cuspla points without seeing significators(which are the important executors of the events),do you think it is really a great discovery?. Cutting the root structure of astrology and building a new theory ...it seems to be a pathetic condition for me. By seeing,4th Sub linked to 11th sub-sub,so house bought ion the period. Neglecting totally the significators.. Many people in this world,I have seen very well in my life....to earn name and fame,to make things differently without understanding the consequences,they find new things...eventhough we have a right way,message.I am not saying that new things should not come or exist,but not on the cost of proved,tested theories..neglecting them totally is bad.If we go this way,then total astrology subject will be no where in india. Hope you can understand my point. Thanks and regards Balaji G Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear RG,Thanks for your comments. I am not trying to find fault with Khullar or his work. I am saying that if "exact" time of birth is required for using the ideas he has outlined, it is going to be a major challenge since many of us in this group are trying to solve the problem of determining "exact" birth time. If he has proposed interesting rectification techniques in his book, then it is worthwhile experimenting with those. After ten years from now if we continue to talk about birth rectification, that would be disappointing in my humble opinion.Regards,Rangarajan , R G <rg_bharat> wrote:> Dear Shri Rangarajan> In to-days time because of computers, things have become very easy. Calculation for connecting desired houses for various life events have become very easy. If Shri Krishnamoorthy Jee would have had computer facility, he would have definitly took us to sub sub level (may beyound sub-sub level). His unfinished task is being completed by to-days astrologers. The technic for birth time correction has been suggested by Mr. S P Khullar in his third book 'Your True Horoscope' which has recently been released. There is not one technic Mr. Kullar has suggested, there are many combinations which have been discussed in the book. This is definitly not the end. We will come accross with many new astrologers who would givr us many more new things/ideas in astrology. Every new suggestion/study/findings shoud be carefully studied, checked and only than it should be followed or rejected.> In this group discussion entire book can not be put on board. > Roopeshwar Gupta India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Dear Balaji, Your points are well taken. However it is not clear to me if you are supportive of Khullar's work, or against it. You say you have already experienced with Khullar's rectification. What has been your experience? What is the success rate? Unfortunately birth time rectification does not seem to have a reliable and repeatable technique. This topic has assumed great significance in this forum and if you have suggestions, we are all ears. Regards, Rangarajan , " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > Dear Rangarajanji > > As a member already experienced with Mr.Khuller's rectification,I am writing this to you.Many theories and many people they rectify the chart using some points they have discovered.While implementing this they dont clearly understand that the theory should be applicable in all cases and after applying that it should be reliable in all cases.If you take till sub-sub and argue that planets inter-connected in the cuspla points without seeing significators(which are the important executors of the events),do you think it is really a great discovery?. > > Cutting the root structure of astrology and building a new theory ...it seems to be a pathetic condition for me. > > By seeing,4th Sub linked to 11th sub-sub,so house bought ion the period. > Neglecting totally the significators.. > > Many people in this world,I have seen very well in my life....to earn name and fame,to make things differently without understanding the consequences,they find new things...eventhough we have a right way,message.I am not saying that new things should not come or exist,but not on the cost of proved,tested theories..neglecting them totally is bad.If we go this way,then total astrology subject will be no where in india. > > Hope you can understand my point. > > Thanks and regards > Balaji G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Dear Rangarajanji Thanks for your kind reply.My view on rectification of birth time is as I said after continuously tried for 5 years.....We cannot fix in the first instance by using any ready-made rules.Because birth is a complexing issue where,we cannot say place,time or even mother(in some cases).Life is not we decide..as per fate we are rolling like a rock from the mountain. Ofcourse,I welcome all the astrologers to find good results.I am happy that atleast now this issue is discussed vigorously. In my view,Khuller's way of thinking and rectification is different and might have some values in predictions but not the perfect or correct in approach.Significators are totally avoided and how can we expect this as perfect?. RP is a divine and wonderful way of rectifying.Only god can guide us.certain things we cannot change or find.Thats god's power and strength.Even,Guruji KSK himself has told its divine power,WHICH I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND. Only a true,pious astrologer can be successful.We are after all astro bodies limited to our own fate.destiny.So,if we have good job told by god,success or else accept as it.No other way.I am sorry if I seem to be pessimistic or philosophical in attitude.God will guide is what our elders,guruji's has told. So,always take RP as the powerful,divine,perfect tool in rectifying which is used from forefather's period.They call it as prasnam and Guruji has said as RP thats all. I am giving my following words in caps to make you understand that I stress on this point much. I AM SAYING RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING,WE CAN FORMULATE A RULE FOR CERTAIN THINGS WHICH ARE NOT FIXED IN NATURE. For example,can we predict how many times my boss will smile before me.Just for example I am telling.We can say technology is growing.Technology grows as per god's will but there is a reason behind this..which we would realise totally in future. Hope my words are clear and understood. Pls reply,if anything you want to say. With thanks and regards Balaji GopalakrishnanRangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Balaji,Your points are well taken. However it is not clear to me if you are supportive of Khullar's work, or against it. You say you have already experienced with Khullar's rectification. What has been your experience? What is the success rate?Unfortunately birth time rectification does not seem to have a reliable and repeatable technique. This topic has assumed great significance in this forum and if you have suggestions, we are all ears.Regards,Rangarajan , "Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:> Dear Rangarajanji> > As a member already experienced with Mr.Khuller's rectification,I am writing this to you.Many theories and many people they rectify the chart using some points they have discovered.While implementing this they dont clearly understand that the theory should be applicable in all cases and after applying that it should be reliable in all cases.If you take till sub-sub and argue that planets inter-connected in the cuspla points without seeing significators(which are the important executors of the events),do you think it is really a great discovery?.> > Cutting the root structure of astrology and building a new theory ...it seems to be a pathetic condition for me.> > By seeing,4th Sub linked to 11th sub-sub,so house bought ion the period.> Neglecting totally the significators..> > Many people in this world,I have seen very well in my life....to earn name and fame,to make things differently without understanding the consequences,they find new things...eventhough we have a right way,message.I am not saying that new things should not come or exist,but not on the cost of proved,tested theories..neglecting them totally is bad.If we go this way,then total astrology subject will be no where in india.> > Hope you can understand my point.> > Thanks and regards> Balaji G India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Message 3877 of 4591 < Previous | Next > " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:23 am Re: Re: Cuspal interlinks balaji_g_kri... Offline Send Email Dear Rangarajanji Yes,u are right and I am also having the book on that.Mr.Baskaran and Mr.Gnanasambandan and Mr.Balan of Madurai(My home town) has discussed and proposed this to Mr.Khuller for publishng.But,I believe only Mr.Khuller and Mr.Gnanasambandan are actively doing this as I spoke to them a few months ago. But,my personal point is that this theory is a part of K.P and it cannot be a sole system to predict and fix timing of events.Especially,theu tried to rectify my chart and using only cuspal interlinks for cross checking past events and it will give a very wrong time.When we apply each and all other events it will confuse. With regards BALAJI G W Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Balaji, I believe the actual credit for crystallizing " Cuspal Interlinks " theory goes to Baskaran of Madurai. Although Mr.Khullar of Delhi has published a book on this subject, it seems to me that he has been heavily influenced by Baskaran. One strong evidence for this is the fact that Khullar has written the preface for Baskaran's book, and Khullar's book has been published a few years after Baskaran's. I am not interested in raising any controversy here, but merely pointing out facts so that everyone understands the history and origin. Regards, Rangarajan , " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > Dear Inderji > > Cuspal Interlinks is one of the latest topic of the K.P group.This ofcourse initiated earlier by Late Prof.Kar and his followers.This theory believes that significators of two charts will not have any significant changes and so the cuspal points of bhavas will be the significators for the event. > > CUSPAL POINTS are sign-star-sub of a bhava will behave as significators in relation to the other bhavas. > > Lagna sublord if it is sat and if this sat also becomes sublord or star lord for 7 or 11.Then sat signifying 7 and 11 also and accordingly results to be predicted.Even though,this thoery stems out from K.P and Guruji K.S.K already has pointed out this in few of his articles,I think rectifying a chart simply on these basis will not be good or correct. > > Prof.Khuller at delhi has mastered this theory and he is teaching this theory in delhi.He has already published a detailed book on this for sagar publications,called kalamsha and true astrology. > > Hope these details are useful for you. > > Best wishes > > BALAJI G > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear all, > Can any learned member of the forum please explain in very brief what > is : principles of cuspal interlinks. > Inder , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " <ranga@m...> wrote: > Dear Balaji, > Your points are well taken. However it is not clear to me if you are > supportive of Khullar's work, or against it. You say you have > already experienced with Khullar's rectification. What has been your > experience? What is the success rate? > > Unfortunately birth time rectification does not seem to have a > reliable and repeatable technique. This topic has assumed great > significance in this forum and if you have suggestions, we are all > ears. > > Regards, > Rangarajan > > , " Balaji G.krishnan " > <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > > Dear Rangarajanji > > > > As a member already experienced with Mr.Khuller's rectification,I > am writing this to you.Many theories and many people they rectify > the chart using some points they have discovered.While implementing > this they dont clearly understand that the theory should be > applicable in all cases and after applying that it should be > reliable in all cases.If you take till sub-sub and argue that > planets inter-connected in the cuspla points without seeing > significators(which are the important executors of the events),do > you think it is really a great discovery?. > > > > Cutting the root structure of astrology and building a new > theory ...it seems to be a pathetic condition for me. > > > > By seeing,4th Sub linked to 11th sub-sub,so house bought ion the > period. > > Neglecting totally the significators.. > > > > Many people in this world,I have seen very well in my life....to > earn name and fame,to make things differently without understanding > the consequences,they find new things...eventhough we have a right > way,message.I am not saying that new things should not come or > exist,but not on the cost of proved,tested theories..neglecting them > totally is bad.If we go this way,then total astrology subject will > be no where in india. > > > > Hope you can understand my point. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Balaji G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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