Guest guest Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Dear Evencio, The key to Hitler's chart is his Mars Venus exact conjunction. It is extremely important because Venus is the Asc Sign and Sub Lord, and Mars is his Star Lord. Mars is strong in its own sign in the Sub of Mercury in the 6th house, and Mercury is Lord of the 12th house of self undoing. Mercury is in the Star of Ketu which closely aspects Mars Venus. Ketu in turn is in the Star of 8th house Lord Venus. Also Mars and Venus are in the star of Venus Lord of the 8th of death and suicide. So Mars and Venus, closely conjoined are both malefic and indicators of the course of his life. Hitler was surrounded by death in his relationships with women, war and genocide. The evil combination of Mars conjunct Venus was tied by close square to Saturn and Close trine to Ketu , which formed part of a stellium of Ketu Jupiter Moon. Mars, Venus, Moon, Jupiter and Ketu are ALL in the Star of Malefic Venus, which is particularly potent due to its exact conjunction with Mars. When any of these planets are impacted by a close Solar Eclipse contact they will bring to the fore 8th house matters - ie suicide. In the last Solar Eclipse (SE) 14th Jan 1945 before his death the SE point came conjunct his natal Ketu, and SE Ketu came close conjunct its natal position, exact trine his natal Venus Mars conjunction. This triggered the respective Venus Star Lord positions incubating the problems created by 8th Lord Venus and leading to suicide. SE Saturn came exact opposition to natal Moon. This created thoughts of suicide as Moon - the mind - is in the Star of 8th house Lord Venus. Natal Saturn is in the Star of 12th house Lord Mercury - the house of self undoing and in the Sub of 8th house Lord Venus indicating suicide. So SE Saturn also incubates the problem which is triggered on 30th April 1945 (Not March as you state) after Saturn in its ongoing transit, first retrogrades and then going direct comes exact conjunct its SE position opposition natal Moon. On the day of death apart from the Saturn transit, Jupiter exactly trines natal Mars and Venus, activating Venus as Star Lord of transit Jupiter and natal Mars and Venus. Venus and Mercury in exact transit conjunction come exactly square and midpoint natal Rahu and Ketu activating Ketu's star Lord Venus, and Jupiter who is in the Star of Venus. These are all clear indications of death by his own hand. Under the circumstances of the time, ie Russian troops close to his bunker, it would have been easy for a KP astrologer to see the outcome and date of his potential suicide. Dasa for Hitler's suicide were Rahu, Sun, Moon, and Saturn. Sun is in the Star of Ketu which in turn is in the Star of Venus. It is in the Sub of Jupiter which is in the Star of Venus. Moon is in the Star and Sub of Venus. Saturn is in the Star of 12th house (of self undoing) Mercury and Sub of 8th house Lord (of suicide) Venus. Regarding your question on Rahu being the MD - bearing in mind the foregoing emphasis and problems of natal Venus - I would suggest that the connection is that Rahu is in the Star of Jupiter and opposition Jupiter. Jupiter in turn aspects Mars and Venus, and is in the Star of Venus. In other words Rahu is acting for 8th house Lord of suicide Venus. This dasa sequence could be translated Ven Ven Ven Ven!! Ron Gaunt On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:34:04 -0300, you wrote: >Friends can someone help me in the study of Hitle's chart? >RAHU/SUN/SUN DASA/BHUKTI/PRATYANTAR began in 26/03/45 - 12/04/45 >He committed suicide on 30/03/45 Friday at 15h30 . >As you all can see Sun is Bhandakasthanadhipati and he is ruler of the >nakshatra in the cusp of 8th house. He is in marakasthana >I cant see the participation of Rahu in his death can someone see anything? >Even if the correct Bhukti would be the previous Rahu/Ven/Ketu, Rahu >would be active, why? >here the data: >20/04/1889 18H30 LMT 13E03 48N15 >I attached one sayana chart and two nirayana kp ayanansa chart, for >graphic aid if necessary. >Thanks >Evencio > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Dear Evencio, The key to Hitler's chart is his Mars Venus exact conjunction. It is extremely important because Venus is the Asc Sign and Sub Lord, and Mars is his Star Lord. Mars is strong in its own sign in the Sub of Mercury in the 6th house, and Mercury is Lord of the 12th house of self undoing. Mercury is in the Star of Ketu which closely aspects Mars Venus. Ketu in turn is in the Star of 8th house Lord Venus. Also Mars and Venus are in the star of Venus Lord of the 8th of death and suicide. So Mars and Venus, closely conjoined are both malefic and indicators of the course of his life. Hitler was surrounded by death in his relationships with women, war and genocide. The evil combination of Mars conjunct Venus was tied by close square to Saturn and Close trine to Ketu , which formed part of a stellium of Ketu Jupiter Moon. Mars, Venus, Moon, Jupiter and Ketu are ALL in the Star of Malefic Venus, which is particularly potent due to its exact conjunction with Mars. When any of these planets are impacted by a close Solar Eclipse contact they will bring to the fore 8th house matters - ie suicide. In the last Solar Eclipse (SE) 14th Jan 1945 before his death the SE point came conjunct his natal Ketu, and SE Ketu came close conjunct its natal position, exact trine his natal Venus Mars conjunction. This triggered the respective Venus Star Lord positions incubating the problems created by 8th Lord Venus and leading to suicide. SE Saturn came exact opposition to natal Moon. This created thoughts of suicide as Moon - the mind - is in the Star of 8th house Lord Venus. Natal Saturn is in the Star of 12th house Lord Mercury - the house of self undoing and in the Sub of 8th house Lord Venus indicating suicide. So SE Saturn also incubates the problem which is triggered on 30th April 1945 (Not March as you state) after Saturn in its ongoing transit, first retrogrades and then going direct comes exact conjunct its SE position opposition natal Moon. On the day of death apart from the Saturn transit, Jupiter exactly trines natal Mars and Venus, activating Venus as Star Lord of transit Jupiter and natal Mars and Venus. Venus and Mercury in exact transit conjunction come exactly square and midpoint natal Rahu and Ketu activating Ketu's star Lord Venus, and Jupiter who is in the Star of Venus. These are all clear indications of death by his own hand. Under the circumstances of the time, ie Russian troops close to his bunker, it would have been easy for a KP astrologer to see the outcome and date of his potential suicide. Dasa for Hitler's suicide were Rahu, Sun, Moon, and Saturn. Sun is in the Star of Ketu which in turn is in the Star of Venus. It is in the Sub of Jupiter which is in the Star of Venus. Moon is in the Star and Sub of Venus. Saturn is in the Star of 12th house (of self undoing) Mercury and Sub of 8th house Lord (of suicide) Venus. Regarding your question on Rahu being the MD - bearing in mind the foregoing emphasis and problems of natal Venus - I would suggest that the connection is that Rahu is in the Star of Jupiter and opposition Jupiter. Jupiter in turn aspects Mars and Venus, and is in the Star of Venus. In other words Rahu is acting for 8th house Lord of suicide Venus. This dasa sequence could be translated Ven Ven Ven Ven!! Ron Gaunt On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:34:04 -0300, you wrote: >Friends can someone help me in the study of Hitle's chart? >RAHU/SUN/SUN DASA/BHUKTI/PRATYANTAR began in 26/03/45 - 12/04/45 >He committed suicide on 30/03/45 Friday at 15h30 . >As you all can see Sun is Bhandakasthanadhipati and he is ruler of the >nakshatra in the cusp of 8th house. He is in marakasthana >I cant see the participation of Rahu in his death can someone see anything? >Even if the correct Bhukti would be the previous Rahu/Ven/Ketu, Rahu >would be active, why? >here the data: >20/04/1889 18H30 LMT 13E03 48N15 >I attached one sayana chart and two nirayana kp ayanansa chart, for >graphic aid if necessary. >Thanks >Evencio > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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