Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Dear Mr. Yogesh, My horoscope was cast by one astrologer, who, based on the event -my father's death at the age of 4yrs corrected the birth time. I do not know what logic he used, since I did not know any thing of astrology at that time(nearly 35 years back). I used the same timing and cast the horoscope using krishnamurthi ayanamsha and the moon position gets very much shifted and as a result there is good deal of change in dasha bhukti. As per this horoscope many events have somewhat coincided with astrological indications and some did not. However, when I apply your principle of sublord of Lagna, I see that Lagna sublord is moon iteslf and not star lord of Moon, as per corrected time by that astrologer. To get the Lagna sublord as Shani( moons starlord)in this particular case, I have to move the lagna by nearly 30 mins of time on either side. This affects the dasha bhukti considerably. Therefore my question is : Is it okay if lagna Sublord is in some way connected to moon or should it be starlord tself? What is your experience? RG has indicated lagna subsub lord to be conected to moon, under what conditions this principle is used? I will do a detailed study after applying the principle indicated by you and let you know the results. Thanks for your kind reply. Regards, Udupa Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope erected is very correct... As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter, Birth Time Verification... I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial & error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of the MOON... The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate... Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness of the chart...please... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear RG, I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks. regards, Udupa R G <rg_bharat wrote: Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results. Roopeshwar GuptaAH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Shi RG What is the procedure for birthtime checking? Thank you in advance. Regards, Udupa SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear Roopeshwar Gupta, Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native. Thanks & Regards, Upadhyaya - R G Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM Re: Accident, Marriage ? Dear Shri Upadhyaya I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. Accident On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. Moon Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. Rahu Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. Mercury Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun Jup has already been discussed above. Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. Ven Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). Recovery For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. Marriage The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. Roopeshwar GuptaSRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear RG,Thank you for your inputs.For better understanding of your comments, what is thereason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.Regards and ThanksUpadhyaya--- R G <rg_bharat wrote:> Hello> She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005> She has weak chances of getting married. She should> worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help> her in getting married. The possibility of getting> married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules> out.> RG> SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:> Dear Members,> > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with> an> accident on> 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had> undergone> surgery and on bed> rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor> accidents since 2003.> > This girl is still unmarried.> > DOB: 6-8-1967> TOB: 22:30> Lat: 12N52> Lon: 74E53> > 1) Will she get married?> 2) When will she recover?> > > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments.> > Analysis> 1) Marriage> 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined> to> get married.> Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not> feeling well).> > 2) Accident> > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and> marakastana => native> will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys?> > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me.> > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant> and> lord of 12 => danger> to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju> grace> should have helped> the native.> > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is> promised.> > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic.> Both these planets are> danger to life. Ma is also a maraka.> Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke> represents Ve, 8 lord. So> danger to life.> > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh> (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)).> > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by> significators of 5, 11.> >---------> 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur> Cha> Gur> > Bud>---------> 11 Cha-San San>---------> > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa> > The native would get fully recovered during the> Mo-Ju.> > Regards,> Upadhyaya> > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Dear Raichur, What is the difference between Ayanmsa given by Prof.KSK and Prof Bala chandra. Is there a small numerical difference? Inder , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > Dear RG > > What is this KP 2 ayanamsa ? There are only 2 yanamsas . The Old KP as given by > > Prof KSK in his books, and the New KPA as given by prof balachandra in KP & Astology > > 2003. This has been now loaded to our files section by vin Tin > > .Please refer only to these two. > > thank you > R G <rg_bharat> wrote: > Dear Shri Udupa > as desired by you I once again giving below my last mail: > > I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. > > Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. > > Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. > > Accident > > On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. > > Moon > > Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. > > Rahu > > Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup > > Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. > > Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. > > Mercury > > Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun > > Jup has already been discussed above. > > Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. > > Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. > > Ven > > Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. > > Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. > > Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. > > Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. > > Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. > > If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). > > Recovery > > For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. > > SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. > > Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. > > Marriage > > The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) > > Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. > > Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. > > Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. > > Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. > > The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. > > Thanks > > Roopeshwar Gupta > > > AH Udupa <ahudupa> wrote: > Dear RG, > I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks. > regards, > Udupa > > > R G <rg_bharat> wrote: > Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results. > Roopeshwar Gupta > AH Udupa <ahudupa> wrote: > Dear Shi RG > What is the procedure for birthtime checking? > Thank you in advance. > Regards, > Udupa > > > SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s> wrote: > Dear Roopeshwar Gupta, > > Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native. > > Thanks & Regards, > Upadhyaya > - > R G > > Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM > Re: Accident, Marriage ? > > > > Dear Shri Upadhyaya > > I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. > > Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. > > Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. > > Accident > > On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. > > Moon > > Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. > > Rahu > > Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup > > Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. > > Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. > > Mercury > > Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun > > Jup has already been discussed above. > > Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. > > Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. > > Ven > > Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. > > Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. > > Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. > > Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. > > Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. > > If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). > > Recovery > > For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. > > SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. > > Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. > > Marriage > > The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) > > Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. > > Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. > > Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. > > Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. > > The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. > > Roopeshwar Gupta > > > SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s> wrote: Dear RG, > > Thank you for your inputs. > > For better understanding of your comments, what is the > reason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee. > > Regards and Thanks > Upadhyaya > > --- R G <rg_bharat> wrote: > > > Hello > > She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005 > > She has weak chances of getting married. She should > > worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help > > her in getting married. The possibility of getting > > married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules > > out. > > RG > > SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with > > an > > accident on > > 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had > > undergone > > surgery and on bed > > rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor > > accidents since 2003. > > > > This girl is still unmarried. > > > > DOB: 6-8-1967 > > TOB: 22:30 > > Lat: 12N52 > > Lon: 74E53 > > > > 1) Will she get married? > > 2) When will she recover? > > > > > > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments. > > > > Analysis > > 1) Marriage > > 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined > > to > > get married. > > Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not > > feeling well). > > > > 2) Accident > > > > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and > > marakastana => native > > will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys? > > > > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me. > > > > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant > > and > > lord of 12 => danger > > to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju > > grace > > should have helped > > the native. > > > > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is > > promised. > > > > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic. > > Both these planets are > > danger to life. Ma is also a maraka. > > Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke > > represents Ve, 8 lord. So > > danger to life. > > > > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh > > (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)). > > > > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by > > significators of 5, 11. > > > > > - -------- > > 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur > > Cha > > Gur > > > > Bud > > > - -------- > > 11 Cha-San San > > > - -------- > > > > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa > > > > The native would get fully recovered during the > > Mo-Ju. > > > > Regards, > > Upadhyaya > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Dear Udupa, This rules cant work. In my past mail i prove by examples that this Rules not work.(please check my previous mail) BUT I SURPRISE THAT ANY SENIOR KP ASTROLOGER CANT GIVE ANY REPLY . I THINK THIS RULES GIVEN BY XYZ SO NO ONE WANT TO GIVE ANY OPINION. Again i raquest who follow this rules give any examples of rectification by him i prove that no rectification require in that case. You can found anyway conection with moon's starlord for all the day. regards kanak>AH Udupa <ahudupa> > >Re: Accident, Marriage ?>Fri, 20 May 2005 22:53:58 -0700 (PDT)>>Dear Mr. Yogesh,> My horoscope was cast by one astrologer, who, based on the event -my father's death at the age of 4yrs corrected the birth time. I do not know what logic he used, since I did not know any thing of astrology at that time(nearly 35 years back).> I used the same timing and cast the horoscope using krishnamurthi ayanamsha and the moon position gets very much shifted and as a result there is good deal of change in dasha bhukti.> As per this horoscope many events have somewhat coincided with astrological indications and some did not.> However, when I apply your principle of sublord of Lagna, I see that Lagna sublord is moon iteslf and not star lord of Moon, as per corrected time by that astrologer.>> To get the Lagna sublord as Shani( moons starlord)in this particular case, I have to move the lagna by nearly 30 mins of time on either side. This affects the dasha bhukti considerably.> Therefore my question is : Is it okay if lagna Sublord is in some way connected to moon or should it be starlord tself? What is your experience?> RG has indicated lagna subsub lord to be conected to moon, under what conditions this principle is used?> I will do a detailed study after applying the principle indicated by you and let you know the results. Thanks for your kind reply.>Regards,>Udupa>>>>Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>Dear Mr.Udupa,> If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope erected is very correct...> As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter,>Birth Time Verification...> I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial & error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of the MOON...> The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate...> Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness of the chart...please...> With best wishes,> Yours sincerely,> L.Y.Rao.> GOOD LUCK !>>AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote:>Dear RG,> I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks.>regards,>Udupa>>>R G <rg_bharat wrote:>Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results.>Roopeshwar Gupta>AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote:>Dear Shi RG> What is the procedure for birthtime checking?>Thank you in advance.>Regards,>Udupa>>>SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:>Dear Roopeshwar Gupta,>>Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native.>>Thanks & Regards,>Upadhyaya>->R G> >Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM>Re: Accident, Marriage ?>>>>Dear Shri Upadhyaya>>I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha.>>Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes.>>Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level.>>Accident>>On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running.>>Moon>>Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident.>>Rahu>>Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup>>Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses.>>Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident.>>Mercury>>Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun>>Jup has already been discussed above.>>Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital.>>Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp.>>Ven>>Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong.>>Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat.>>Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord.>>Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above.>>Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital.>>If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp).>>Recovery>>For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery.>>SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast.>>Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully.>>Marriage>>The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006)>>Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp.>>Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage.>>Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage.>>Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp.>>The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended.>>Roopeshwar Gupta>>>SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear RG,>>Thank you for your inputs.>>For better understanding of your comments, what is the>reason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.>>Regards and Thanks>Upadhyaya>>--- R G <rg_bharat wrote:>> > Hello> > She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005> > She has weak chances of getting married. She should> > worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help> > her in getting married. The possibility of getting> > married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules> > out.> > RG> > SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:> > Dear Members,> >> > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with> > an> > accident on> > 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had> > undergone> > surgery and on bed> > rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor> > accidents since 2003.> >> > This girl is still unmarried.> >> > DOB: 6-8-1967> > TOB: 22:30> > Lat: 12N52> > Lon: 74E53> >> > 1) Will she get married?> > 2) When will she recover?> >> >> > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments.> >> > Analysis> > 1) Marriage> > 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined> > to> > get married.> > Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not> > feeling well).> >> > 2) Accident> >> > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and> > marakastana => native> > will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys?> >> > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me.> >> > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant> > and> > lord of 12 => danger> > to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju> > grace> > should have helped> > the native.> >> > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is> > promised.> >> > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic.> > Both these planets are> > danger to life. Ma is also a maraka.> > Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke> > represents Ve, 8 lord. So> > danger to life.> >> > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh> > (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)).> >> > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by> > significators of 5, 11.> >> >>---------> > 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur> > Cha> > Gur> >> > Bud> >>---------> > 11 Cha-San San> >>---------> >> > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa> >> > The native would get fully recovered during the> > Mo-Ju.> >> > Regards,> > Upadhyaya> >> >> > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > protection around> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Hi there , When the straight rule fails, look at the " somehow connection " as was suggested.For example,if the sublord of Ascendant is say Rahu,as per rule moon starlord should be Rahu.If not correct the birth time. If moon starlord is saturn the problem starts. However if the same Rahu is in Saturn sign, the somehow connection is estabilished. I hope my understanding is correct. Regards, Satish , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear friends, Is it alright if star lord of ascendant is moon starlord to check birthtime verification? In my horoscope the sub lord of ascendant(Aries) is Kethu which is with venus in cancer sign bu in 3rd house.Ascendant is Mars sign, Venus lord and kethu sublord. Moon is in Aries sign Venus lord and jup sublord in 12th house. If i adjust time it varies to a great extent. Can any one suggest how to rectify in this case. VijayYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope erected is very correct... As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter, Birth Time Verification... I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial & error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of the MOON... The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate... Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness of the chart...please... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear RG, I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks. regards, Udupa R G <rg_bharat wrote: Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results. Roopeshwar GuptaAH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Shi RG What is the procedure for birthtime checking? Thank you in advance. Regards, Udupa SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear Roopeshwar Gupta, Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native. Thanks & Regards, Upadhyaya - R G Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM Re: Accident, Marriage ? Dear Shri Upadhyaya I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. Accident On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. Moon Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. Rahu Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. Mercury Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun Jup has already been discussed above. Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. Ven Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). Recovery For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. Marriage The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. Roopeshwar GuptaSRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear RG,Thank you for your inputs.For better understanding of your comments, what is thereason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.Regards and ThanksUpadhyaya--- R G <rg_bharat wrote:> Hello> She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005> She has weak chances of getting married. She should> worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help> her in getting married. The possibility of getting> married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules> out.> RG> SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:> Dear Members,> > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with> an> accident on> 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had> undergone> surgery and on bed> rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor> accidents since 2003.> > This girl is still unmarried.> > DOB: 6-8-1967> TOB: 22:30> Lat: 12N52> Lon: 74E53> > 1) Will she get married?> 2) When will she recover?> > > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments.> > Analysis> 1) Marriage> 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined> to> get married.> Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not> feeling well).> > 2) Accident> > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and> marakastana => native> will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys?> > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me.> > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant> and> lord of 12 => danger> to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju> grace> should have helped> the native.> > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is> promised.> > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic.> Both these planets are> danger to life. Ma is also a maraka.> Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke> represents Ve, 8 lord. So> danger to life.> > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh> (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)).> > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by> significators of 5, 11.> >---------> 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur> Cha> Gur> > Bud>---------> 11 Cha-San San>---------> > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa> > The native would get fully recovered during the> Mo-Ju.> > Regards,> Upadhyaya> > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear Vijay You are confusing yourself: What is the Sublord of Asc: What is the Star Lord of Moon. Is the asc sl connected in any way to the Moon star lord. Houses are not involved. IF you send details of your birth Your problem can be solved> vijay thirumalai <vijaythirumalai wrote: Dear friends, Is it alright if star lord of ascendant is moon starlord to check birthtime verification? In my horoscope the sub lord of ascendant(Aries) is Kethu which is with venus in cancer sign bu in 3rd house.Ascendant is Mars sign, Venus lord and kethu sublord. Moon is in Aries sign Venus lord and jup sublord in 12th house. If i adjust time it varies to a great extent. Can any one suggest how to rectify in this case. VijayYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope erected is very correct... As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter, Birth Time Verification... I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial & error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of the MOON... The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate... Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness of the chart...please... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear RG, I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks. regards, Udupa R G <rg_bharat wrote: Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results. Roopeshwar GuptaAH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Shi RG What is the procedure for birthtime checking? Thank you in advance. Regards, Udupa SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear Roopeshwar Gupta, Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native. Thanks & Regards, Upadhyaya - R G Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM Re: Accident, Marriage ? Dear Shri Upadhyaya I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. Accident On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. Moon Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. Rahu Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. Mercury Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun Jup has already been discussed above. Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. Ven Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). Recovery For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. Marriage The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. Roopeshwar GuptaSRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear RG,Thank you for your inputs.For better understanding of your comments, what is thereason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.Regards and ThanksUpadhyaya--- R G <rg_bharat wrote:> Hello> She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005> She has weak chances of getting married. She should> worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help> her in getting married. The possibility of getting> married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules> out.> RG> SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:> Dear Members,> > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with> an> accident on> 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had> undergone> surgery and on bed> rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor> accidents since 2003.> > This girl is still unmarried.> > DOB: 6-8-1967> TOB: 22:30> Lat: 12N52> Lon: 74E53> > 1) Will she get married?> 2) When will she recover?> > > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments.> > Analysis> 1) Marriage> 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined> to> get married.> Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not> feeling well).> > 2) Accident> > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and> marakastana => native> will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys?> > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me.> > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant> and> lord of 12 => danger> to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju> grace> should have helped> the native.> > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is> promised.> > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic.> Both these planets are> danger to life. Ma is also a maraka.> Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke> represents Ve, 8 lord. So> danger to life.> > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh> (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)).> > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by> significators of 5, 11.> >---------> 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur> Cha> Gur> > Bud>---------> 11 Cha-San San>---------> > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa> > The native would get fully recovered during the> Mo-Ju.> > Regards,> Upadhyaya> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear Abhay and Kanak, Talking about birth time verification/correction,please refer to Astrosecrets & KP,Pt II, pages 60,Edition 2003. It is stated for verification see " Meridian Colei " ,10th Cusp which does not change or move fast etc etc. For some reason the methodology is not explained. I will appreciate if knowledgeable member elucidates, the method of using 10th cusp to verify/correct birth time is explained with some examples, we can improve on the system. This for consideration of all members. Satish , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear Mr.Anant Raichur, DOB 29th August 1953 Time of Birth 22.30 Place of birth - T'Nagar, Chennai Thank you in advance Vijaanant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear Vijay You are confusing yourself: What is the Sublord of Asc: What is the Star Lord of Moon. Is the asc sl connected in any way to the Moon star lord. Houses are not involved. IF you send details of your birth Your problem can be solved> vijay thirumalai <vijaythirumalai wrote: Dear friends, Is it alright if star lord of ascendant is moon starlord to check birthtime verification? In my horoscope the sub lord of ascendant(Aries) is Kethu which is with venus in cancer sign bu in 3rd house.Ascendant is Mars sign, Venus lord and kethu sublord. Moon is in Aries sign Venus lord and jup sublord in 12th house. If i adjust time it varies to a great extent. Can any one suggest how to rectify in this case. VijayYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope erected is very correct... As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter, Birth Time Verification... I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial & error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of the MOON... The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate... Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness of the chart...please... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear RG, I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks. regards, Udupa R G <rg_bharat wrote: Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results. Roopeshwar GuptaAH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Shi RG What is the procedure for birthtime checking? Thank you in advance. Regards, Udupa SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear Roopeshwar Gupta, Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native. Thanks & Regards, Upadhyaya - R G Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM Re: Accident, Marriage ? Dear Shri Upadhyaya I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. Accident On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. Moon Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. Rahu Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. Mercury Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun Jup has already been discussed above. Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. Ven Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). Recovery For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. Marriage The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. Roopeshwar GuptaSRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear RG,Thank you for your inputs.For better understanding of your comments, what is thereason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.Regards and ThanksUpadhyaya--- R G <rg_bharat wrote:> Hello> She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005> She has weak chances of getting married. She should> worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help> her in getting married. The possibility of getting> married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules> out.> RG> SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote:> Dear Members,> > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with> an> accident on> 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had> undergone> surgery and on bed> rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor> accidents since 2003.> > This girl is still unmarried.> > DOB: 6-8-1967> TOB: 22:30> Lat: 12N52> Lon: 74E53> > 1) Will she get married?> 2) When will she recover?> > > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments.> > Analysis> 1) Marriage> 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined> to> get married.> Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not> feeling well).> > 2) Accident> > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and> marakastana => native> will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys?> > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me.> > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant> and> lord of 12 => danger> to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju> grace> should have helped> the native.> > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is> promised.> > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic.> Both these planets are> danger to life. Ma is also a maraka.> Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke> represents Ve, 8 lord. So> danger to life.> > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh> (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)).> > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by> significators of 5, 11.> >---------> 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur> Cha> Gur> > Bud>---------> 11 Cha-San San>---------> > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa> > The native would get fully recovered during the> Mo-Ju.> > Regards,> Upadhyaya> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear Abhay, You are right . Only RP method is correct. But senior learned astrologer are not ready to confess that this rule is not reliable .I prove this by provied maths. I dont understand why? God bless me. regards kanak >Abhay Godse <abhaygodse> > >Re: Accident, Marriage ?>Sat, 21 May 2005 01:15:23 +0530> Find e-mail and documents on your PC instantly with the new MSN Search Toolbar–FREE! Dear Kanak I agree with you 100% because Moon star lord will be the same for a long time. Every horoscope can't have Sub lord of Asc. the same as Moon star lord, Even we can't apply the same rule after considering Sub Sub lord of Asc.(SSL), instead of Sub Lord of Asc. Generally, If the Sub lord of the house we are studying, appears in the Ruling planets, then, the horoscope is correct or at least that SL is correct. I have observed this many times, this prove correct even in the cases of rectified birth times. Regards Abhay Kanak Bosmia wrote: Dear Udupa, This rules cant work. In my past mail i prove by examples that this Rules not work.(please check my previous mail) BUT I SURPRISE THAT ANY SENIOR KP ASTROLOGER CANT GIVE ANY REPLY . I THINK THIS RULES GIVEN BY XYZ SO NO ONE WANT TO GIVE ANY OPINION. Again i raquest who follow this rules give any examples of rectification by him i prove that no rectification require in that case. You can found anyway conection with moon's starlord for all the day. regards kanak >AH Udupa <ahudupa > > >Re: Accident, Marriage ? >Fri, 20 May 2005 22:53:58 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear Mr. Yogesh, > My horoscope was cast by one astrologer, who, based on the event -my father's death at the age of 4yrs corrected the birth time. I do not know what logic he used, since I did not know any thing of astrology at that time(nearly 35 years back). > I used the same timing and cast the horoscope using krishnamurthi ayanamsha and the moon position gets very much shifted and as a result there is good deal of change in dasha bhukti. > As per this horoscope many events have somewhat coincided with astrological indications and some did not. > However, when I apply your principle of sublord of Lagna, I see that Lagna sublord is moon iteslf and not star lord of Moon, as per corrected time by that astrologer. > > To get the Lagna sublord as Shani( moons starlord)in this particular case, I have to move the lagna by nearly 30 mins of time on either side. This affects the dasha bhukti considerably. > Therefore my question is : Is it okay if lagna Sublord is in some way connected to moon or should it be starlord tself? What is your experience? > RG has indicated lagna subsub lord to be conected to moon, under what conditions this principle is used? > I will do a detailed study after applying the principle indicated by you and let you know the results. Thanks for your kind reply. >Regards, >Udupa > > > >Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: >Dear Mr.Udupa, > If the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the Moon's starlord,the horoscope erected is very correct... > As per Astrosecrets & K.P., part II,Pp 237-244,in the Chapter, >Birth Time Verification... > I suggest therefore that you adjust the Ascendant (by trial & error method)such that, its sublord is the same as the star lord of the MOON... > The birthtime for such an Ascendant will be the most accurate... > Kindly inform results after checking with past events verifying the correctness of the chart...please... > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > >AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: >Dear RG, > I have deleted the last mail without knoing the method was there.Can you kindly forward the same to me if it is still available with you? I will also try to procure the book you have suggested, many many thanks. >regards, >Udupa > > >R G <rg_bharat wrote: >Procedure is given in my last mail. For birth time rectification you may refer to book 'Your True Horoscope' by Shri S P Khullar, published by Sagar publications Delhi. This book is very useful and the technique given in the book give very good and accurate results. >Roopeshwar Gupta >AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: >Dear Shi RG > What is the procedure for birthtime checking? >Thank you in advance. >Regards, >Udupa > > >SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: >Dear Roopeshwar Gupta, > >Thanks a lot for providing so much information. I will suggest the same to the native. > >Thanks & Regards, >Upadhyaya >- >R G > >Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:08 PM >Re: Accident, Marriage ? > > > >Dear Shri Upadhyaya > >I have prepared horoscope based on KP 2 Ayanamsha. > >Birth time appears to be correct since Asc sub sub lord Sun is connected through its star lord (Mer) to Moon star lord which happens to be Mer. This is checked for birth time error of 2-3 minutes. > >Asc sub sub lord (SSL) Sun has positional status. Based on its positional status it is signifying the 5th house where it is posited. It is also signifying 1st and 5th cusp as their sub lord (SL). Sun is also connected to 2,4,5,6,9,10,11 & 12th cusps at its star, sub and sub sub level (Me, Me, Ve) It is strongly connected to 5th cusp at at positional, star and sub level. > >Accident > >On 6th april 2005 Moon-Rahu-Mercury-Ven-Ven/Sun Dasha was running. > >Moon > >Moon is having positional status signifying 5th house (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Moon is in star of Mer and in Sub and Sub Sub of Sat. Mer is star and sub lord of 5th cusp (negating the significations of 6th cusp). Sat is SSL of 8th cusp, indicating accident. > >Rahu > >Rahu SL is Ketu, SL and SSL is Jup > >Ket is SL of 8th cusp and is in sign of Ven (Rah and Ket give the results of their sign lords also) Ven is sign lord 3rd and 8th cusp. Both these cusp are vacant hence Ketu signify both these houses. > >Jup is SSL of 6th cusp and star lord of 8th cusp, strongly indicating accident. > >Mercury > >Mer is in star of Jup, in Sub of Rahu and in Sub Sub of Sun > >Jup has already been discussed above. > >Rah is SL of 6th, star lord of 12 and SSL of 11th cusp, signifying visit to hospital. > >Sun is SSL of Asc and 7th cusp, diluting the significations of 8th cusp. > >Ven > >Ven at steller level is signifying 6th cups (where it is posited), 3rd and 12 cusps as the lord of these vacant houses. This signification is not strong. > >Ven is in star of Ven, Sub of Jup and sub sub of Sat. > >Ven is SSL of 5th cusp, diluting significations of 6th cusp but strongly signifying th cusp as 6th starlord. > >Jup SL of Ven has already been discussed above. > >Sat SSL of Ven is SSL of 8th & 12th cusp strongly signifying accident and visit to hospital. Sat as SL of 11th cusp diluting the visit/stay of hospital. > >If at the time of accident Pran Dasha was Ven, very strong chances of accident. If Pran Dasha was Sun (star lord Mer, SL Ven, SSL Rah), the chances of accident are average with quick recovery since Sun is Asc and 7th SSL and has positional status signifying 5th cusp (negating 6th cusp). > >Recovery > >For recovery, Dasa/Bhukti of planets signifying 5th and 7th cusp should be operative. 5th cusp star lord and SL is Mer.whose Bhkti is there from 21.3.2005 to 7.6.2005. This is indicating recovery process to start immediately after accident. 5th SSL is Ven who is not likely to help in recovery. > >SSL of 7th cusp is Sun who is SSL of Asc also. It is signifying strong will power of the native to recover. During Bhukti of Sun (8.10.2005 to 5.11.2005) the native will recover fast. > >Mar is star lord and SL of 7th cusp is Mars. During bhukti of Mars (20.12.2005 to 21.1.2006) the native will recover fully. > >Marriage > >The native has chances to ger married during Moon-Rah-Mar Dasha (20.12.95 to 21.1.-2006) > >Moon as positional status and signifying as sign lord and is occupying 5th cusp. Moon is star lord of 11th cusp. Both these houses are favourable for marriage. Moon is SSL of 3rd, 4th, 9th and 10th cusp. This position is not very strong for negating the result of 5th and 11th cusp. Because 3rd and 4th cusp are opposing 9th and 10th cusp, thus neutralizing the negative effect on 5th and 11th cusp. > >Rahu is in star of Ketu, which is SN of the cusp and 2nd cusp, reducing the chances of marriage. > >Mars has positional status. Mars is positive in 7th cusp as lord of 9th and 1st cusp. (1sta nd 9th cusp as vacant) Hence, Mars with positional status is strongly favourable for marriage. Mars is SSL of 4th cusp diluting the results of 5th cusp. Mars is star loed and sub loard of 7th cusp again strongly favouring the marriage. > >Mars is also sub-lord of 9th cusp. > >The above indicates that there are reasonably good chances of marriage during dasha of Moon – Rahu – Mars. Pooja of Sun is recommended because Sun is SSL of ascendant ASC and 7th cusp. Sun may play role in Shookhashm stroke pran dasha. Mars is strong significator of 7th cusp, hence, pooja of Shri Hanuman Ji has been recommended. > >Roopeshwar Gupta > > >SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: Dear RG, > >Thank you for your inputs. > >For better understanding of your comments, what is the >reason behind worshipping Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee. > >Regards and Thanks >Upadhyaya > >--- R G <rg_bharat wrote: > > > Hello > > She will recover by 1st week of Nov. 2005 > > She has weak chances of getting married. She should > > worship Surya and Shree Hanuman Jee.. This will help > > her in getting married. The possibility of getting > > married between Dec 2005 and Jan 2006 in not rules > > out. > > RG > > SRINIVASA UPADHYAYA <upadhyaya_p_s wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > > I am posting the chart of a woman/girl who met with > > an > > accident on > > 6-Apr-2005. One of her leg got cut. She had > > undergone > > surgery and on bed > > rest for next 3 months. She has sufferred with minor > > accidents since 2003. > > > > This girl is still unmarried. > > > > DOB: 6-8-1967 > > TOB: 22:30 > > Lat: 12N52 > > Lon: 74E53 > > > > 1) Will she get married? > > 2) When will she recover? > > > > > > Please provide your feedbakc, inputs, comments. > > > > Analysis > > 1) Marriage > > 7csl, Ma signifying 2 & 7 => the native is destined > > to > > get married. > > Further analysis I will post tomorrow (as I am not > > feeling well). > > > > 2) Accident > > > > 8csl, Ke S(7, 3,8, 2, 9). As Ke signify both 8 and > > marakastana => native > > will meet wit accidents. 3H => short journeys? > > > > The DBA at the time of accident is Mo-Rh-Me. > > > > Mo in the star of badhaka and sub of the occupant > > and > > lord of 12 => danger > > to life. Association of 6 lord is also there. Ju > > grace > > should have helped > > the native. > > > > Dasa lord is in the sub of lord of 11 => recovery is > > promised. > > > > Bukthi lord Rh is being aspected by Ma, a malefic. > > Both these planets are > > danger to life. Ma is also a maraka. > > Rh is in the star of Ke, occupant of 7 but Ke > > represents Ve, 8 lord. So > > danger to life. > > > > Antara lord, Me, is badhaka and is in the sub of Rh > > (S(1, 2, 7, 9,)). > > > > Recovey will happen during the periods ruled by > > significators of 5, 11. > > > > >--------- > > 5 Bud-Bud Cha Sur > > Cha > > Gur > > > > Bud > > >--------- > > 11 Cha-San San > > >--------- > > > > Me, Ju, Mo, Su, Sa > > > > The native would get fully recovered during the > > Mo-Ju. > > > > Regards, > > Upadhyaya > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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