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Dear Lajmiji,

I don't understand why you act as if your are the SOLE inheritor of

KP System. I know you keep asking questions like this regularly and

thrusting your ideas and views on members. I do not think many of us

in this group want to achieve " instant fame " , etc. as you think. We

are here to learn and share our knowledge and experience with

others. Personally I will not rubbish any idea without understanding

it and experimenting with it. Every scientific achievement starts

with a hypothesis and after careful analysis and experimentation

becomes accepted. Just because someone wanted to share his thoughts

does not mean you should accept it blindly or criticise it for the

sake of it. If you disagree with a posting, you have two options:

a) You express your opinion - e.g., " I do not think this will work " ,

or " Looks like an intersting idea, but should be carefully studied " ,

etc.

b) You refrain from expressing your opinion on the posting. If no

member finds the posting worthy of response, the original poster

will understand (indirectly) that his idea has not found favour with

the group.

 

I think what one should not do, which (I am sorry to point out) you

do regularly, is to find fault with the posting itself and the

person who posts it. This may be acceptable when the posting itself

does not logically belong to this forum, or is plain obnoxious.

 

Let me address one issue you have raised: " ... which is only partly

useful? " . First let me state emphatically, that I do not personally

endorse the theory proposed by Karivadana. Keeping that aside, what

is wrong if a theory is only partly useful? In this case, it only

provides " yes " or " no " answer. There could be examples where this is

adequate. For instance, we discussed the outcomes of cricket matches

between India and Pakistan, remember? Most of the time the question

was " Will India win this match " ? Clearly " Yes " or " No " is the

expected answer, not the time of fructification.

 

I find it insulting that you find fault with other members of the

group, in this case me for my brief question. What provoked you so

much? We are not a bunch of immature juveniles in this group for you

to keep monitoring our daily activities and advising us to spend our

time " wisely " . When we need your advice, we will solicit it. Try to

control your temper. Please do not choke creative ideas.

 

Finally, let me respond to your other observation " But I've asked

this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond... " . If

we have not responded it is because of point (b) above; We do not

find it worthy of a response.

 

I usually do not respond so harshly to criticisms, but your way of

writing melted my fuse.

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al,

> Just what are we

up to,in this K.P Group.?

> Are we in the

quest of instant fame,hypothesising a theory which is only partly

useful ?

> Almost every

consultant wants to know when the event will take place in

addition...!

> But I've asked

this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...

> Are we in the

quest for " instant fame " as an inventor of " a new method " even if it

be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot " time " the

event,a question on every consultant's mind...?

> I suggest that

our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct and

proper use of K.P.

> That, alone, will

be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so

selfessly,giving us his ALL...!

> With best wishes,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:

> What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?

>

> -Rangarajan

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Dear Rangarajan,

My mail seems to have "hurt you to the quick" rubbing a wrong nerve I guess...

It seems to me that your reaction is a little bit oversensitive,and uncalled for...such reactions have lost the grouip a few members,a case in point is Sandy Crowther,who left the group...I trust you will bear with me for this advice...

Being in the same group,we must learn to "take things in one's stride"...and not take "personal offence"...this kind of reaction only happens when one "attaches one's ego to his opinion..." and takes umbrage immediately at even the slightest "imagined" provocation...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote:

Dear Lajmiji,I don't understand why you act as if your are the SOLE inheritor of KP System. I know you keep asking questions like this regularly and thrusting your ideas and views on members. I do not think many of us in this group want to achieve "instant fame", etc. as you think. We are here to learn and share our knowledge and experience with others. Personally I will not rubbish any idea without understanding it and experimenting with it. Every scientific achievement starts with a hypothesis and after careful analysis and experimentation becomes accepted. Just because someone wanted to share his thoughts does not mean you should accept it blindly or criticise it for the sake of it. If you disagree with a posting, you have two options:a) You express your opinion - e.g., "I do not think this will work", or "Looks like an

intersting idea, but should be carefully studied", etc.b) You refrain from expressing your opinion on the posting. If no member finds the posting worthy of response, the original poster will understand (indirectly) that his idea has not found favour with the group.I think what one should not do, which (I am sorry to point out) you do regularly, is to find fault with the posting itself and the person who posts it. This may be acceptable when the posting itself does not logically belong to this forum, or is plain obnoxious.Let me address one issue you have raised: "... which is only partly useful?". First let me state emphatically, that I do not personally endorse the theory proposed by Karivadana. Keeping that aside, what is wrong if a theory is only partly useful? In this case, it only provides "yes" or "no" answer. There could be examples where this is adequate. For instance, we discussed the outcomes of cricket

matches between India and Pakistan, remember? Most of the time the question was "Will India win this match"? Clearly "Yes" or "No" is the expected answer, not the time of fructification. I find it insulting that you find fault with other members of the group, in this case me for my brief question. What provoked you so much? We are not a bunch of immature juveniles in this group for you to keep monitoring our daily activities and advising us to spend our time "wisely". When we need your advice, we will solicit it. Try to control your temper. Please do not choke creative ideas.Finally, let me respond to your other observation "But I've asked this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...". If we have not responded it is because of point (b) above; We do not find it worthy of a response.I usually do not respond so harshly to criticisms, but your way of writing melted my

fuse.Regards,Rangarajan , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al,> Just what are we up to,in this K.P Group.?> Are we in the quest of instant fame,hypothesising a theory which is only partly useful

?> Almost every consultant wants to know when the event will take place in addition...!> But I've asked this question before,but none of you seem to want to

respond...> Are we in the quest for "instant fame" as an inventor of "a new method" even if it be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot "time" the event,a question on every consultant's mind...?> I suggest that our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct and proper use of

K.P.> That, alone, will be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so selfessly,giving us his ALL...!> With best

wishes,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:> What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?> > -Rangarajan

 

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Dear Lajmiji,

Whatever you have said in your reply applies to you as well. You

should also try to be less sensitive and less egoistic and stop

commenting on others. Be objective in your assessment of others' work.

There is no " slightest imagined provocation " for my reply; You simply

do not know how to contribute to a forum. Stop being bossy. Stop

preaching. Let your work speak for yourself.

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Rangarajan,

> My mail seems to have " hurt you to the

quick " rubbing a wrong nerve I guess...

> It seems to me that your reaction is a

little bit oversensitive,and uncalled for...such reactions have lost

the grouip a few members,a case in point is Sandy Crowther,who left

the group...I trust you will bear with me for this advice...

> Being in the same group,we must learn to

" take things in one's stride " ...and not take " personal offence " ...this

kind of reaction only happens when one " attaches one's ego to his

opinion... " and takes umbrage immediately at even the slightest

" imagined " provocation...

> With best wishes,

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

>

> Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:

> Dear Lajmiji,

> I don't understand why you act as if your are the SOLE inheritor of

> KP System. I know you keep asking questions like this regularly and

> thrusting your ideas and views on members. I do not think many of us

> in this group want to achieve " instant fame " , etc. as you think. We

> are here to learn and share our knowledge and experience with

> others. Personally I will not rubbish any idea without understanding

> it and experimenting with it. Every scientific achievement starts

> with a hypothesis and after careful analysis and experimentation

> becomes accepted. Just because someone wanted to share his thoughts

> does not mean you should accept it blindly or criticise it for the

> sake of it. If you disagree with a posting, you have two options:

> a) You express your opinion - e.g., " I do not think this will work " ,

> or " Looks like an intersting idea, but should be carefully studied " ,

> etc.

> b) You refrain from expressing your opinion on the posting. If no

> member finds the posting worthy of response, the original poster

> will understand (indirectly) that his idea has not found favour with

> the group.

>

> I think what one should not do, which (I am sorry to point out) you

> do regularly, is to find fault with the posting itself and the

> person who posts it. This may be acceptable when the posting itself

> does not logically belong to this forum, or is plain obnoxious.

>

> Let me address one issue you have raised: " ... which is only partly

> useful? " . First let me state emphatically, that I do not personally

> endorse the theory proposed by Karivadana. Keeping that aside, what

> is wrong if a theory is only partly useful? In this case, it only

> provides " yes " or " no " answer. There could be examples where this is

> adequate. For instance, we discussed the outcomes of cricket matches

> between India and Pakistan, remember? Most of the time the question

> was " Will India win this match " ? Clearly " Yes " or " No " is the

> expected answer, not the time of fructification.

>

> I find it insulting that you find fault with other members of the

> group, in this case me for my brief question. What provoked you so

> much? We are not a bunch of immature juveniles in this group for you

> to keep monitoring our daily activities and advising us to spend our

> time " wisely " . When we need your advice, we will solicit it. Try to

> control your temper. Please do not choke creative ideas.

>

> Finally, let me respond to your other observation " But I've asked

> this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond... " . If

> we have not responded it is because of point (b) above; We do not

> find it worthy of a response.

>

> I usually do not respond so harshly to criticisms, but your way of

> writing melted my fuse.

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al,

> > Just what are we

> up to,in this K.P Group.?

> > Are we in the

> quest of instant fame,hypothesising a theory which is only partly

> useful ?

> > Almost every

> consultant wants to know when the event will take place in

> addition...!

> > But I've asked

> this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...

> > Are we in the

> quest for " instant fame " as an inventor of " a new method " even if it

> be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot " time " the

> event,a question on every consultant's mind...?

> > I suggest that

> our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct and

> proper use of K.P.

> > That, alone, will

> be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so

> selfessly,giving us his ALL...!

> > With best wishes,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?

> >

> > -Rangarajan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Lajmiji,

 

 

Your messages of 3936 & 3966 below are absolutely contradicting.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

#3936

On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao Lajmi

Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:28 AM

 

RE: What is Chiron??

Dear Sandy,

Could you kindly clarify whether " gulika "

and " maandi " mentioned in old traditional astrological texts,and

articles in old issues of the Astrological Magazine...are also

similar ?

This will greatly help in my clear understanding

of these " planetoids " and their value in prognostication...(?)

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

 

 

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Msg #3966

Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:53 am

Re: Re: debliation in navamsa

 

 

Dear Sreekumar,

That is precisely why I have been repeatedly

advocating that K.P. learners,should first unlearn traditional

astrology ,and then learn K.P.,which is based on Vedic Hindu

Astrology...from a KSK's books only...

Then practise it diligently,and then apply

it properly,then if one has any difficulty,he should approach this

group...

But what is being noticed is that, in their

eagerness to get solutions to their personal problems,which they

could not get even after using traditional astrology or, after their

own predictions according to traditional astrology going awry,they

approach this group for " solutions " without making any serious

effort to learn K.P. !

(This is perhaps the reason that there are

not many members coming forward to offer you the solution ?)

This group will of course surely try to

solve their difficulties,if asked in a spirit of inquiry with the

intention to learn K.P., I hasten to add...

Many queries that I read in this Group's

site,belong to this category...this is a K.P. Group, whose main

objective is to help propogate K.P. principles and help students and

K.P. followers to get their problems solved by experts...and senior

members and practitioners of K.P.

It is also my suggestion that such type of

queries be discouraged by the moderator of this group,Mr.Punit

Pandey.

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

 

 

 

 

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

<ranga@m...> wrote:

> Dear Lajmiji,

> Whatever you have said in your reply applies to you as well. You

> should also try to be less sensitive and less egoistic and stop

> commenting on others. Be objective in your assessment of others'

work.

> There is no " slightest imagined provocation " for my reply; You

simply

> do not know how to contribute to a forum. Stop being bossy. Stop

> preaching. Let your work speak for yourself.

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

<lyrastro1>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rangarajan,

> > My mail seems to have " hurt you to the

> quick " rubbing a wrong nerve I guess...

> > It seems to me that your reaction is a

> little bit oversensitive,and uncalled for...such reactions have

lost

> the grouip a few members,a case in point is Sandy Crowther,who left

> the group...I trust you will bear with me for this advice...

> > Being in the same group,we must learn to

> " take things in one's stride " ...and not take " personal

offence " ...this

> kind of reaction only happens when one " attaches one's ego to his

> opinion... " and takes umbrage immediately at even the slightest

> " imagined " provocation...

> > With best wishes,

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> >

> > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Lajmiji,

> > I don't understand why you act as if your are the SOLE inheritor

of

> > KP System. I know you keep asking questions like this regularly

and

> > thrusting your ideas and views on members. I do not think many

of us

> > in this group want to achieve " instant fame " , etc. as you think.

We

> > are here to learn and share our knowledge and experience with

> > others. Personally I will not rubbish any idea without

understanding

> > it and experimenting with it. Every scientific achievement

starts

> > with a hypothesis and after careful analysis and experimentation

> > becomes accepted. Just because someone wanted to share his

thoughts

> > does not mean you should accept it blindly or criticise it for

the

> > sake of it. If you disagree with a posting, you have two options:

> > a) You express your opinion - e.g., " I do not think this will

work " ,

> > or " Looks like an intersting idea, but should be carefully

studied " ,

> > etc.

> > b) You refrain from expressing your opinion on the posting. If

no

> > member finds the posting worthy of response, the original poster

> > will understand (indirectly) that his idea has not found favour

with

> > the group.

> >

> > I think what one should not do, which (I am sorry to point out)

you

> > do regularly, is to find fault with the posting itself and the

> > person who posts it. This may be acceptable when the posting

itself

> > does not logically belong to this forum, or is plain obnoxious.

> >

> > Let me address one issue you have raised: " ... which is only

partly

> > useful? " . First let me state emphatically, that I do not

personally

> > endorse the theory proposed by Karivadana. Keeping that aside,

what

> > is wrong if a theory is only partly useful? In this case, it

only

> > provides " yes " or " no " answer. There could be examples where

this is

> > adequate. For instance, we discussed the outcomes of cricket

matches

> > between India and Pakistan, remember? Most of the time the

question

> > was " Will India win this match " ? Clearly " Yes " or " No " is the

> > expected answer, not the time of fructification.

> >

> > I find it insulting that you find fault with other members of

the

> > group, in this case me for my brief question. What provoked you

so

> > much? We are not a bunch of immature juveniles in this group for

you

> > to keep monitoring our daily activities and advising us to spend

our

> > time " wisely " . When we need your advice, we will solicit it. Try

to

> > control your temper. Please do not choke creative ideas.

> >

> > Finally, let me respond to your other observation " But I've

asked

> > this question before,but none of you seem to want to

respond... " . If

> > we have not responded it is because of point (b) above; We do

not

> > find it worthy of a response.

> >

> > I usually do not respond so harshly to criticisms, but your way

of

> > writing melted my fuse.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rangarajan

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

<lyrastro1>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al,

> > > Just what are

we

> > up to,in this K.P Group.?

> > > Are we in the

> > quest of instant fame,hypothesising a theory which is only

partly

> > useful ?

> > > Almost every

> > consultant wants to know when the event will take place in

> > addition...!

> > > But I've

asked

> > this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...

> > > Are we in the

> > quest for " instant fame " as an inventor of " a new method " even

if it

> > be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot " time " the

> > event,a question on every consultant's mind...?

> > > I suggest

that

> > our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct

and

> > proper use of K.P.

> > > That, alone,

will

> > be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so

> > selfessly,giving us his ALL...!

> > > With best

wishes,

> > > lyrastro1

> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >

> > > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > > What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?

> > >

> > > -Rangarajan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Let us discuss priciples, NOT persons/ or their views.

 

good lucktw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Lajmiji,Your messages of 3936 & 3966 below are absolutely contradicting.Regards,tw #3936 On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao LajmiSaturday, April 23, 2005 5:28 AM Subject: RE: What is Chiron??Dear Sandy,Could you kindly clarify whether "gulika" and "maandi" mentioned in old traditional astrological texts,and articles in old issues of the Astrological Magazine...are also similar ?This will greatly help in my clear understanding of these "planetoids" and their value in prognostication...(?)With best wishes,Yours sincerely,lyrastro1GOOD LUCK !Yogesh Rao Lajmi Msg #3966Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:53

am Re: Re: debliation in navamsaDear Sreekumar,That is precisely why I have been repeatedly advocating that K.P. learners,should first unlearn traditional astrology ,and then learn K.P.,which is based on Vedic Hindu Astrology...from a KSK's books only...Then practise it diligently,and then apply it properly,then if one has any difficulty,he should approach this group...But what is being noticed is that, in their eagerness to get solutions to their personal problems,which they could not get even after using traditional astrology or, after their own predictions according to traditional astrology going awry,they approach this group for "solutions" without making any serious effort to learn K.P. !(This is perhaps the reason that there are not many members coming forward to offer you the solution ?)This group will of course surely try to solve their difficulties,if asked in a spirit

of inquiry with the intention to learn K.P., I hasten to add...Many queries that I read in this Group's site,belong to this category...this is a K.P. Group, whose main objective is to help propogate K.P. principles and help students and K.P. followers to get their problems solved by experts...and senior members and practitioners of K.P.It is also my suggestion that such type of queries be discouraged by the moderator of this group,Mr.Punit Pandey.Yours sincerely,lyrastro1 , "Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" wrote:> Dear Lajmiji,> Whatever you have said in your reply applies to you as well. You> should also try to be less sensitive and less egoistic and stop> commenting on others. Be objective in your assessment of others' work.> There is no "slightest imagined provocation" for my reply; You simply> do not know how to contribute

to a forum. Stop being bossy. Stop> preaching. Let your work speak for yourself.> > Regards,> Rangarajan> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > wrote:> > Dear Rangarajan,> > My mail seems to have "hurt you to the> quick" rubbing a wrong nerve I guess...> > It seems to me that your reaction is a> little bit oversensitive,and uncalled for...such reactions have lost> the grouip a few members,a case in point is Sandy Crowther,who left> the group...I trust you will bear with me for this advice...> > Being in the same group,we must learn to> "take things in one's stride"...and not take "personal offence"...this> kind of reaction only happens when one "attaches one's ego to his> opinion..." and takes umbrage immediately at even the slightest> "imagined" provocation...> > With best

wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > lyrastro1> > > > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy wrote:> > Dear Lajmiji,> > I don't understand why you act as if your are the SOLE inheritor of > > KP System. I know you keep asking questions like this regularly and > > thrusting your ideas and views on members. I do not think many of us > > in this group want to achieve "instant fame", etc. as you think. We > > are here to learn and share our knowledge and experience with > > others. Personally I will not rubbish any idea without understanding > > it and experimenting with it. Every scientific achievement starts > > with a hypothesis and after careful analysis and experimentation > > becomes accepted. Just because someone wanted to share his thoughts > > does not mean you should accept it blindly or criticise it for

the > > sake of it. If you disagree with a posting, you have two options:> > a) You express your opinion - e.g., "I do not think this will work", > > or "Looks like an intersting idea, but should be carefully studied", > > etc.> > b) You refrain from expressing your opinion on the posting. If no > > member finds the posting worthy of response, the original poster > > will understand (indirectly) that his idea has not found favour with > > the group.> > > > I think what one should not do, which (I am sorry to point out) you > > do regularly, is to find fault with the posting itself and the > > person who posts it. This may be acceptable when the posting itself > > does not logically belong to this forum, or is plain obnoxious.> > > > Let me address one issue you have raised: "... which is only partly

> > useful?". First let me state emphatically, that I do not personally > > endorse the theory proposed by Karivadana. Keeping that aside, what > > is wrong if a theory is only partly useful? In this case, it only > > provides "yes" or "no" answer. There could be examples where this is > > adequate. For instance, we discussed the outcomes of cricket matches > > between India and Pakistan, remember? Most of the time the question > > was "Will India win this match"? Clearly "Yes" or "No" is the > > expected answer, not the time of fructification. > > > > I find it insulting that you find fault with other members of the > > group, in this case me for my brief question. What provoked you so > > much? We are not a bunch of immature juveniles in this group for you > > to keep monitoring our daily activities and advising us to

spend our > > time "wisely". When we need your advice, we will solicit it. Try to > > control your temper. Please do not choke creative ideas.> > > > Finally, let me respond to your other observation "But I've asked > > this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...". If > > we have not responded it is because of point (b) above; We do not > > find it worthy of a response.> > > > I usually do not respond so harshly to criticisms, but your way of > > writing melted my fuse.> > > > Regards,> > Rangarajan> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > wrote:> > > Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al,> > > Just what are we > > up to,in this K.P Group.?> > > Are we in the > > quest of instant

fame,hypothesising a theory which is only partly > > useful ?> > > Almost every > > consultant wants to know when the event will take place in > > addition...!> > > But I've asked > > this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...> > > Are we in the > > quest for "instant fame" as an inventor of "a new method" even if it > > be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot "time" the > > event,a question on every consultant's mind...?> > > I suggest that > > our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct and > > proper use of K.P.> > > That, alone, will > > be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so > > selfessly,giving us his ALL...!> > > With best wishes,> > > lyrastro1> > > GOOD LUCK

!> > > > > > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy wrote:> > > What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?> > > > > > -Rangarajan> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Freinds,

 

We should stop discussing on this thread and move ahead. It is really very disheartening that senior astrologers of this forum are involved in it. Any further discussion on this tread will be treated as the violation of group policies.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

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Dear Friends

 

Let us discuss priciples, NOT persons/ or their views.

 

good lucktw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Lajmiji,Your messages of 3936 & 3966 below are absolutely contradicting.Regards,

tw #3936 [

] On Behalf Of Yogesh Rao LajmiSaturday, April 23, 2005 5:28 AM

Subject: RE: What is Chiron??Dear Sandy,Could you kindly clarify whether " gulika " and " maandi " mentioned in old traditional astrological texts,and articles in old issues of the Astrological Magazine...are also similar ?This will greatly help in my clear understanding of these " planetoids " and their value in prognostication...(?)With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,lyrastro1GOOD LUCK !Yogesh Rao Lajmi Msg #3966 Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:53 am Re: Re: debliation in navamsaDear Sreekumar,That is precisely why I have been repeatedly advocating that K.P. learners,should first unlearn traditional astrology ,and then learn K.P.,which is based on Vedic Hindu Astrology...from a KSK's books only...Then practise it diligently,and then apply it properly,then if one has any difficulty,he should approach this group...But what is being noticed is that, in their eagerness to get solutions to their personal problems,which they could not get even after using traditional astrology or, after their own predictions according to traditional astrology going awry,they approach this group for " solutions " without making any serious effort to learn K.P. !(This is perhaps the reason that there are not many members coming forward to offer you the solution ?)This group will of course surely try to solve their difficulties,if asked in a spirit of inquiry with the intention to learn K.P., I hasten to add...Many queries that I read in this Group's site,belong to this category...this is a K.P. Group, whose main objective is to help propogate K.P. principles and help students and K.P. followers to get their problems solved by experts...and senior members and practitioners of K.P.It is also my suggestion that such type of queries be discouraged by the moderator of this group,Mr.Punit Pandey.Yours sincerely,lyrastro1

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " wrote:> Dear Lajmiji,> Whatever you have said in your reply applies to you as well. You> should also try to be less sensitive and less egoistic and stop

> commenting on others. Be objective in your assessment of others' work.> There is no " slightest imagined provocation " for my reply; You simply> do not know how to contribute to a forum. Stop being bossy. Stop

> preaching. Let your work speak for yourself.> > Regards,> Rangarajan> >

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi > wrote:> > Dear Rangarajan,> > My mail seems to have " hurt you to the> quick " rubbing a wrong nerve I guess...

> > It seems to me that your reaction is a> little bit oversensitive,and uncalled for...such reactions have lost> the grouip a few members,a case in point is Sandy Crowther,who left> the group...I trust you will bear with me for this advice...

> > Being in the same group,we must learn to> " take things in one's stride " ...and not take " personal offence " ...this> kind of reaction only happens when one " attaches one's ego to his

> opinion... " and takes umbrage immediately at even the slightest> " imagined " provocation...> > With best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > lyrastro1> >

 

> > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy wrote:> > Dear Lajmiji,> > I don't understand why you act as if your are the SOLE inheritor of > > KP System. I know you keep asking questions like this regularly and > > thrusting your ideas and views on members. I do not think many of us > > in this group want to achieve " instant fame " , etc. as you think. We > > are here to learn and share our knowledge and experience with > > others. Personally I will not rubbish any idea without understanding > > it and experimenting with it. Every scientific achievement starts > > with a hypothesis and after careful analysis and experimentation > > becomes accepted. Just because someone wanted to share his thoughts > > does not mean you should accept it blindly or criticise it for the > > sake of it. If you disagree with a posting, you have two options:

> > a) You express your opinion - e.g., " I do not think this will work " , > > or " Looks like an intersting idea, but should be carefully studied " , > > etc.> > b) You refrain from expressing your opinion on the posting. If no > > member finds the posting worthy of response, the original poster > > will understand (indirectly) that his idea has not found favour with > > the group.> > > > I think what one should not do, which (I am sorry to point out) you > > do regularly, is to find fault with the posting itself and the > > person who posts it. This may be acceptable when the posting itself > > does not logically belong to this forum, or is plain obnoxious.

> > > > Let me address one issue you have raised: " ... which is only partly > > useful? " . First let me state emphatically, that I do not personally > > endorse the theory proposed by Karivadana. Keeping that aside, what > > is wrong if a theory is only partly useful? In this case, it only > > provides " yes " or " no " answer. There could be examples where this is > > adequate. For instance, we discussed the outcomes of cricket matches > > between India and Pakistan, remember? Most of the time the question > > was " Will India win this match " ? Clearly " Yes " or " No " is the > > expected answer, not the time of fructification. > > > > I find it insulting that you find fault with other members of the > > group, in this case me for my brief question. What provoked you so > > much? We are not a bunch of immature juveniles in this group for you > > to keep monitoring our daily activities and advising us to spend our > > time " wisely " . When we need your advice, we will solicit it. Try to > > control your temper. Please do not choke creative ideas.

> > > > Finally, let me respond to your other observation " But I've asked > > this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond... " . If > > we have not responded it is because of point (b) above; We do not > > find it worthy of a response.> > > > I usually do not respond so harshly to criticisms, but your way of > > writing melted my fuse.> > > > Regards,

> > Rangarajan> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> > wrote:> > > Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al,> > > Just what are we > > up to,in this K.P Group.?> > > Are we in the > > quest of instant fame,hypothesising a theory which is only partly > > useful ?> > > Almost every > > consultant wants to know when the event will take place in > > addition...!

> > > But I've asked > > this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond...> > > Are we in the > > quest for " instant fame " as an inventor of " a new method " even if it > > be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot " time " the > > event,a question on every consultant's mind...?> > > I suggest that > > our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct and > > proper use of K.P.> > > That, alone, will > > be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so > > selfessly,giving us his ALL...!> > > With best wishes,> > > lyrastro1> > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy wrote:> > > What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?

> > > > > > -Rangarajan> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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