Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 Horary astrology is for answering only specific questions. For life reading I would rather prefer Natal Charts Muruli l, dr_rahul_99 wrote: > predictions using horary numbers are more accurate than predicting > thro birth horoscopes. please post your views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Hi Kit, I have only a couple of minutes this morning, but wonder if you could post the actual time of one or two of your horary charts here and tell us just how you read them? It would be so helpful because horary has been a Tropical discipline and you use the sidereal zodiac. The navamsa is the same as the novien except that it's counted from Aries. The first navamsa sign of Aries is Aries, then Taurus, etc. Blessings, Therese At 08:23 AM 4/30/04 -0700, you wrote: > (...) >Lastly using horary which I do very sparingly. With absolutely no help from police or family I told police in Utah exactly where Elizabeth Smart was right after kidnapping (...) >Beyond that I have done all sorts of horary for friends and family. With Chiron rising I have amazing abilities to diagnose disease sometimes. You want to be careful doing medical stuff!!!!! Ha Malpractice insurance is not available for astrologers. Joke just humor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Hi Therese......According to G Allen and this relevation made Fagan accept the novien chart, although reluctantly, the novienic chart is counted from 0 Taurus. And from what work I have done it is incredible. Don't know if the Sidereal Astrology forum is the correct place to showcase horary. Siderealists don't believe in it. Not sure if I do either. I'm using sidereal positions and the text book of Ivy Jacobsen as bible of horary guidelines. Alot of my horary success may come from being psychic. Maybe it's more art than science. Somehow I think I would be toasted pretty good for mixing tropical/sidereal astrology. Ha I'm leaving for Colo for the summer. As of Sunday my computer will be in truck driving to Colo. Should be back in business by May 10. Love and light Kit Hi Kit, I have only a couple of minutes this morning, but wonder if you could post the actual time of one or two of your horary charts here and tell us just how you read them? It would be so helpful because horary has been a Tropical discipline and you use the sidereal zodiac. The navamsa is the same as the novien except that it's counted from Aries. The first navamsa sign of Aries is Aries, then Taurus, etc. Blessings, Therese At 08:23 AM 4/30/04 -0700, you wrote: > (...) >Lastly using horary which I do very sparingly. With absolutely no help from police or family I told police in Utah exactly where Elizabeth Smart was right after kidnapping (...) >Beyond that I have done all sorts of horary for friends and family. With Chiron rising I have amazing abilities to diagnose disease sometimes. You want to be careful doing medical stuff!!!!! Ha Malpractice insurance is not available for astrologers. Joke just humor. > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 At 09:27 AM 4/30/04 -0700, Kit wrote: >Hi Therese......According to G Allen and this relevation made Fagan accept the novien chart, although reluctantly, the novienic chart is counted from 0 Taurus. And from what work I have done it is incredible. Kit, The navamsa only works well with the Lahiri or Krishnamurti ayanamsa, and I've also seen it work in incredible ways. I did try out the novien long ago when I used the Fagan-Allen ayanamsa. I have the books that describe how Fagan used the novien, but he only gave a couple of examples. Would you like to compare the novien (F-B) with the navamsa for a few charts so we can see how they relate to each other? If so, post some birth data and explain how you read the novien, and I'll take the same birth data and look at the navamsa. > (...) Alot of my horary success may come from being psychic. Maybe it's more art than science. You may be right!! You have an incredible Mercury, and there's so much we don't know about astrology that an astrologer has to be psychic to make correct predictions. > I'm leaving for Colo for the summer. As of Sunday my computer will be in truck driving to Colo. Should be back in business by May 10. If we don't hear from you, we'll wait until May 11 or so. Blessings, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Hi Therese.......So using the Lahiri/ Krishna do you count from O Tau or O Aries? In my use of novien charts I have stayed strictly with F/B rules. Open for change. The main thing I like about novien's is using Sexascope for compatibility charts etc....It also shows irregular attractions or I think Fagan used deviant. Ha Please explain difference in Lahiri/Krishna and F/B ayanamsa. How much time difference are we talking and why is there a discrepancy? I'm sure these questions have been asked before, but briefly indulge me. Thanks Kit At 09:27 AM 4/30/04 -0700, Kit wrote: >Hi Therese......According to G Allen and this relevation made Fagan accept the novien chart, although reluctantly, the novienic chart is counted from 0 Taurus. And from what work I have done it is incredible. Kit, The navamsa only works well with the Lahiri or Krishnamurti ayanamsa, and I've also seen it work in incredible ways. I did try out the novien long ago when I used the Fagan-Allen ayanamsa. I have the books that describe how Fagan used the novien, but he only gave a couple of examples. Would you like to compare the novien (F-B) with the navamsa for a few charts so we can see how they relate to each other? If so, post some birth data and explain how you read the novien, and I'll take the same birth data and look at the navamsa. > (...) Alot of my horary success may come from being psychic. Maybe it's more art than science. You may be right!! You have an incredible Mercury, and there's so much we don't know about astrology that an astrologer has to be psychic to make correct predictions. > I'm leaving for Colo for the summer. As of Sunday my computer will be in truck driving to Colo. Should be back in business by May 10. If we don't hear from you, we'll wait until May 11 or so. Blessings, Therese " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Respected Shri Gopalachary I have read your following message with keen interest. It is a fact that in most cases, especially the in the cases of old people like me the time of birth written cannot be correct. My father (passed away in 1985) had learned astrology but he was not practicing it for financial gains. He himself has made the graha nila (not full horoscope) of me and my brothers and sisters. But I know we mever had a watch or clock in our house at that time. After my elder brother got a job in the Indian Army some time in 1960 or so I was gifted a wrist watch and that was the first time machine available in our house Coming to the point, my time of birth was shown in kerala's style nazhika and vinazhika (i.e. 6 nazhika and 18 vinazzhika after sunset on 19.4.47, place near Alwaye, Ernakulam District) I got this time converted into IST as 9.04 p.m. recently. Since you are practicing Horary Astrology would you be kind enough to analyse my horoscope in this system ? I am a person due to retire on 30.04.05 but my circumstances warrant a job for me. Shri Umesh Sharmaji has kindly advised certain remedies under lalkitab and I have completed the remedies. Now I await a favourable response from my management to favour me with an extension in my service. Secondly I have a very bad health, pertaining to digestive system as well as bones. Shri Umeshji has again kindly advised remedies and I will be doing it in a day or two. Since you are practicing horary I would request you to kindly let me have a general prediction (since the time of birth is doubtful)about my employment and health. How my health is going to be in the future and what will be my life span ? Employment wise although I am 58 now, are there any chances to get employed abroad ? If so, when ? Are there chances for me to build a house at home village? I am interested in learning Srimad Bhagavatham and lead a full spiritual life once my son's education is over. I await your kind opinion. Hari Om N.Ramachandran Pillai lalkitab , " Gopalachary P.M. " <maripmgg> wrote: > > > About Horary Astrology > > This branch of astrology is mysterious, perfect, wonderful and most > useful. After thoroughly understanding the principles, one can offer > correct, clear and precise predictions without any confusion. This > helps the astrologer to confirm what predictions he has to give by > using other methods which, when explained, will convince and satisfy > consultant. > > Generally, the astrologer ask the querist to give a number, at > random, within 108. the number that is given forms the basis for the > prediction. Some may scoff at this branch of science saying that the > prediction given by Horary Astrology cannot be correct as the number > given, is after all a chance. They suggest that the person could > have given any other number or thought of one number and mentioned > another. Such person do not realise that the querist cannot give any > other number except the one which he had given occasionally. The > lucky querist may mention a number, but the astrologer may mishear; > calculate on the misheard number. Here the divine force so works, > that the number taken by astrologer gives a clear correct answer > whereas the other number offered by querist cannot offer such a > clear clue to the astrologer. > > They have no personal experience that is the divine forces which > works and enables the astrologer to predict. The number that he > gives depend upon his past action or karma's s wheel as the future > results he is to enjoy just as the moment of his birth is effect of > his past karma. None can convince that one's birth at a particular > moment , whether normal or caesarian, is a chance. If one were to > reiterate, one is ignorant of the wonderful divine law. Has he or > she choice of parents or the locality of the birth. > > Generally this branch of astrology is restored to, mostly by those > who have horoscopes or who doubt the correctness of them. This > branch of science can answer all questions and clear all doubts. But > on many occasions there are contradictory indications according to > the birth chart when they try to predict using traditional methods. > Krishnamurti's discovery is clear, convincing and correct. > > On those occasions, they can make the best use of Horary astrology > for proper guidance and confirmation. Even when one decides to offer > predictions using other branches of the science. Horary Astrology > has to be used as a final safe method to declare with confidence the > results already obtained. > > This method is as rational and scientific as any other branch of > astrology and it is the sublime art of fore-seeing events from the > positions of the planets at the moment when one propounds seriously > a question about any important matter. By applying it, one can > predict the longevity, health, success or failure in in one's > enterprise, one's stay in foreign land or his return, the time of > marriage, the description of partner, re-union of divorce, birth and > death of children, sex of the child, results of the examination, > recovery of lost articles, gain by lottery, races or speculations, > success in litigation and lot many more things. > > This branch of science is not a bluff. It is not to dupe the > gullible strong. But at the same time, it is not easy for the > students of astrology to make predictions infallibly unless they are > thorough with the principles of astrology available now. > > Not Numerology : Some mistake that the astrologer uses Numerology > and predicts. They are ignorant. The number indicates the ascendant > for that query and he calculated the position of planets for that > moment of judgement and then judges the result. > > Why Horary Astrology is Preferred ? > To find out the events I one's life or to know in advance the result > of one's attempt or action, there are two methods. They are natal > Astrology and horary Astrology. > > 1. To erect a horoscope with 12 cusps and insert the planets at > correct position, the time of birth should be accurate. > > In India, the standard time was introduced on 1-1-1906 and any birth > before this date was noted down according to the timing followed by > postal authorities or railway authorities in that locality. Before > standard timing was introduced even when our watches shows correct > time, yet the information given to standard parties after the birth > of the child by the attendants differ from the other. Because the > medical attendants are anxious to do their job than to note the > time, the nurse mentioned another, whereas the doctor differed from > both of them. When such is the case which time can we take even > though the clock shows Indian Standard time. > > Hence the time of birth is not correct in most cases. > > 2. Whenever twins are born with difference of few minutes and we > erect horoscope according to traditional system, the picture > remains same for both except in the dasa balance. There also the > difference is only by a few weeks. The positions of the planet not > get changed, in Bhava nor they move at all by few minutes. So the > horoscopes of both the twins appear for predictive astrology more or > less remain same according to traditional Hindu Astrology. But K.P. > shows the differences. There are many instances when the results > enjoyed by both of them are drastically different. > > 3. In Horary Astrology one takes the movement of the judgement , > makes a chart and offer the result. The horoscope will be very > correct and results would also will be amazingly accurate. > > 4. One can understand the principles of Horary Astrology within a > period of few months and he can apply the principles and in a year > start carrying out the research on Horary Astrology and find out the > truth within a couple of years. One can master this subject easily > and offer useful predictions. Horary Astrology is genuine and > simple. It is most useful, as one can have the results for one's > problem in a few minutes. > > There are many other important aspects of Horary Astrology. It > depends on the expertise and experience of an Individual astrologer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Dear Karivadana This include a mathamactics which is always same for same number taken by differernt person for differant time.By which we cannot come to conclusin because this is not scintific method all though u have got 100% reseult. if we follow this method and by which result goes wrong naturly blame come on ASTROLOGY. So we must avoid such type of unscintific method. Research requird make such type of method to prove scintific till date not to give conclusion on that basis I hope you will not take it wrong way and fill free to correct me if I am wrong Thank You ABHAY AGASTE , " karivadana " <karivadana> wrote: > Dear friend, > Good morning, > > I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one word or one sentence > the future. > > I request all our list members to work on this and observe. > > I got good results. > It works as ruling planets. > > Step 1. > Select any number between 1 and 249 > Step 2 > Divide the number by /with 12 > > Step 3 > Note the remainder > > If the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be favourable > If the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will fructify after > some delay, and with the help of others. > If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be unfavourable > > > You can try this calculation with 100 percent success. > But don't be silly in testing it. > > Good luck > karivadana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Dear karivadana, So long as the consultant does not know this principle it may work out. or otherwise he may give the number that gives favourable result only. Even the astrologer will be tempted to select the number that is favourable when he selects the number. The alternative should be to open a book and get the number and we may try this working that may give good result. Good luck vijaykarivadana <karivadana wrote: Dear friend,Good morning,I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one word or one sentencethe future.I request all our list members to work on this and observe.I got good results.It works as ruling planets. Step 1.Select any number between 1 and 249Step 2Divide the number by /with 12Step 3Note the remainderIf the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be favourableIf the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will fructify aftersome delay, and with the help of others.If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be unfavourableYou can try this calculation with 100 percent success.But don't be silly in testing it.Good luckkarivadana Mail Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Dear Abhayagaste, I entirely agree with you...these kind of "half-baked" and frivolous ' instant fixes' without adequate evidence seem to be the modern-day bane to the detriment of the development scientific astrology... Moreover a consultant woukld like to know as t WHEN his desire will be fufilled...not just a Yes or a No...for an answer... I hope such "methods" are discouraged in this column... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! abhayagaste <abhayagaste wrote: Dear KarivadanaThis include a mathamactics which is always same for same number taken by differernt person for differant time.By which we cannot come to conclusin because this is not scintific method all though u have got 100% reseult. if we follow this method and by which result goes wrong naturly blame come on ASTROLOGY. So we must avoid such type of unscintific method. Research requird make such type of method to prove scintific till date not to give conclusion on that basisI hope you will not take it wrong way and fill free to correct me if I am wrongThank YouABHAY AGASTE , "karivadana" <karivadana> wrote:> Dear friend,> Good morning,> > I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one word or one sentence> the future.> > I request all our list members to work on this and observe.> > I got good results.> It works as ruling planets. > > Step 1.> Select any number between 1 and 249> Step 2> Divide the number by /with 12> > Step 3> Note the remainder> > If the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be favourable> If the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will fructify after> some delay, and with the help of others.> If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be unfavourable> > > You can try this calculation with 100 percent success.> But don't be silly in testing it.> > Good luck> karivadana India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 WHAT HAPPENS IF THE REMAINDER IS A FRACTION? , " karivadana " <karivadana> wrote: > Dear friend, > Good morning, > > I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one word or one sentence > the future. > > I request all our list members to work on this and observe. > > I got good results. > It works as ruling planets. > > Step 1. > Select any number between 1 and 249 > Step 2 > Divide the number by /with 12 > > Step 3 > Note the remainder > > If the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be favourable > If the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will fructify after > some delay, and with the help of others. > If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be unfavourable > > > You can try this calculation with 100 percent success. > But don't be silly in testing it. > > Good luck > karivadana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction? -Rangarajan , " anandhit1 " <anandhit1> wrote: > > WHAT HAPPENS IF THE REMAINDER IS A FRACTION? > > , " karivadana " <karivadana> > wrote: > > Dear friend, > > Good morning, > > > > I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one word or one > sentence > > the future. > > > > I request all our list members to work on this and observe. > > > > I got good results. > > It works as ruling planets. > > > > Step 1. > > Select any number between 1 and 249 > > Step 2 > > Divide the number by /with 12 > > > > Step 3 > > Note the remainder > > > > If the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be favourable > > If the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will fructify after > > some delay, and with the help of others. > > If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be unfavourable > > > > > > You can try this calculation with 100 percent success. > > But don't be silly in testing it. > > > > Good luck > > karivadana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Dear Rangarajan,karivadana et al, Just what are we up to,in this K.P Group.? Are we in the quest of instant fame,hypothesising a theory which is only partly useful ? Almost every consultant wants to know when the event will take place in addition...! But I've asked this question before,but none of you seem to want to respond... Are we in the quest for "instant fame" as an inventor of "a new method" even if it be as yet unproven and not fully useful,as it cannot "time" the event,a question on every consultant's mind...? I suggest that our time be better spent on perfecting ourselves in the correct and proper use of K.P. That, alone, will be a great tribute to our beloved Guruji who taught us K.P., so selfessly,giving us his ALL...! With best wishes, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: What do you mean? How can the reminder be a fraction?-Rangarajan , "anandhit1" <anandhit1> wrote:> > WHAT HAPPENS IF THE REMAINDER IS A FRACTION?> > , "karivadana" <karivadana> > wrote:> > Dear friend,> > Good morning,> > > > I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one word or one > sentence> > the future.> > > > I request all our list members to work on this and observe.> > > > I got good results.> > It works as ruling planets. > > > > Step 1.> > Select any number between 1 and 249> > Step 2> > Divide the number by /with 12> > > > Step 3> > Note the remainder> > > > If the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be favourable> > If the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will fructify after> > some delay, and with the help of others.> > If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be unfavourable> > > > > > You can try this calculation with 100 percent success.> > But don't be silly in testing it.> > > > Good luck> > karivadana India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Reminder can never be a fraction. Incidentally,I applied this rule often these days and is giving accurate results in " yes'ot " no " type of answers. --- Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: > What do you mean? How can the reminder be a > fraction? > > -Rangarajan > > , " anandhit1 " > <anandhit1> > wrote: > > > > WHAT HAPPENS IF THE REMAINDER IS A FRACTION? > > > > , " karivadana " > <karivadana> > > wrote: > > > Dear friend, > > > Good morning, > > > > > > I wish to disclose how to predict easily in one > word or one > > sentence > > > the future. > > > > > > I request all our list members to work on this > and observe. > > > > > > I got good results. > > > It works as ruling planets. > > > > > > Step 1. > > > Select any number between 1 and 249 > > > Step 2 > > > Divide the number by /with 12 > > > > > > Step 3 > > > Note the remainder > > > > > > If the numbers are 0,2,6,10 the result will be > favourable > > > If the numbers are 1,3,7,9, the result will > fructify after > > > some delay, and with the help of others. > > > If the numbers are 4,8,11,5 the result will be > unfavourable > > > > > > > > > You can try this calculation with 100 percent > success. > > > But don't be silly in testing it. > > > > > > Good luck > > > karivadana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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