Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Dear Friends, The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? Thanks in advance and regards Udupa Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Dear Mr.Udupa, As you know very well there are Natural benefics and benefics due to their stellar position,and significations... In general, if the cuspal sublord of any house signifies the houses I,II,III,VI,X & XI counted from that house,it is considered to be benefic to that house...! Houses VIII & XII,are genrally considered malefic... Houses V,IX etc could be both,benefic or malefic depending upon what matter is being judged....i.e., take the sublord of the Vth it could be detrimental for victory over enemies as it is the XIIth to the VIth., and so on...it is important to note karakas and significators of events to be judged and accordingly benefic or malefic assessment made... I hope I have made myself clear... By the way,you remind me of students who prefer to study from "guides" for their exams,and NOT text-books...they all want "readymade masalas"... or, "structured answers"...which will help them satisfy the examiner... Please do not take any offence...am just joking... I urge you to FIRST study K.P., from the K.P. Readers, thoroughly,and then, read books for gaining advanced knowledge,like ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,and many others...later...! With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Friends, The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? Thanks in advance and regards Udupa Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Dear Udupa, You can take benefics and malefics exactly as per tradional astrology. But take bhava but not signs as bhava. Malefic and benefic remain same as per traditional astrology but the results will be given by the those planets [in their periods] which are signfying such benefic or malefic at star and sub level. It is very simple. Otherwise 12th or 8th or 6th bhavas to any bhava[A] is malefic to that bhava [A]. Inder , AH Udupa <ahudupa> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? > Thanks in advance > and regards > Udupa > > > > > Discover > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Dear Mr. Yohgesh Rao, Thank you for reply and suggestions. As you have mentioned it is necesasary to read the books. Unfortunately these six readers are not well structured and not very readable. As mentioned in my mail I tried to read the chapters in reader iii several times. I have gone thro all the six readrers and I am happy I have one to discuss with. Next time on, we will discuss somethings mentioned in the pages of these books. I will be the Astrosecrets at the earliest opportunity. Thank you for the reference. I was always in two minds regarding buying that book. Coming to the answer you have given, House VI considered from any house is a benific? You have left out house VII. What about it? Actually, I had the doubt whether we shoud always take with respect to Lagna or count from houes under consideration. In reader III, in one place it is mentioned take from lagna and another place from that "Rashi" Regards, Udupa Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, As you know very well there are Natural benefics and benefics due to their stellar position,and significations... In general, if the cuspal sublord of any house signifies the houses I,II,III,VI,X & XI counted from that house,it is considered to be benefic to that house...! Houses VIII & XII,are genrally considered malefic... Houses V,IX etc could be both,benefic or malefic depending upon what matter is being judged....i.e., take the sublord of the Vth it could be detrimental for victory over enemies as it is the XIIth to the VIth., and so on...it is important to note karakas and significators of events to be judged and accordingly benefic or malefic assessment made... I hope I have made myself clear... By the way,you remind me of students who prefer to study from "guides" for their exams,and NOT text-books...they all want "readymade masalas"... or, "structured answers"...which will help them satisfy the examiner... Please do not take any offence...am just joking... I urge you to FIRST study K.P., from the K.P. Readers, thoroughly,and then, read books for gaining advanced knowledge,like ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,and many others...later...! With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Friends, The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? Thanks in advance and regards Udupa Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Mail Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Dear Mr. Yogesh, Consider a planet X whose sublord is Y. Also consider that X is a significator of 1,2, 6,5, and 9th houses and Y is a significator of 2,3 8,10,5,12. What will be interpretation for dasha of planet X? UdupaYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, As you know very well there are Natural benefics and benefics due to their stellar position,and significations... In general, if the cuspal sublord of any house signifies the houses I,II,III,VI,X & XI counted from that house,it is considered to be benefic to that house...! Houses VIII & XII,are genrally considered malefic... Houses V,IX etc could be both,benefic or malefic depending upon what matter is being judged....i.e., take the sublord of the Vth it could be detrimental for victory over enemies as it is the XIIth to the VIth., and so on...it is important to note karakas and significators of events to be judged and accordingly benefic or malefic assessment made... I hope I have made myself clear... By the way,you remind me of students who prefer to study from "guides" for their exams,and NOT text-books...they all want "readymade masalas"... or, "structured answers"...which will help them satisfy the examiner... Please do not take any offence...am just joking... I urge you to FIRST study K.P., from the K.P. Readers, thoroughly,and then, read books for gaining advanced knowledge,like ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,and many others...later...! With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Friends, The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? Thanks in advance and regards Udupa Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Dear Mr.Udupa, Actually,first of all,your question is not clear to me at all... The houses common are 2 & 5...among the significators denoted by the st.lord and the s/lord pl.note...then,you have not also mentioned as to what is the matter being judged ? Which karaka houses are to be judged ? The age of the subject or the DOB or TOJ ...the data given,you will surely realise, is wholly inadequate and leaves a lot to the imagination...! Wheher the horoscope is horary or natal(?) is also not clear... The RPs at the TOJ will surely help you to select the appropriate significators for fructification of the event...depending upon the matter to be judged,and the karaka houses to be judged...at what age the Dasa of the planet X begins...etc...all important considerations... As a matter of fact,Mr.Udupa,hypothetical cases are often likely to present such questions...and require adequate data to be provided...before even attempting to answer... I would suggest that we discuss a "live" case,of one of your friends or acquaintances,so as to serve as an example to members... upon the methodology to go about analysing and interpreting... There are many books available...Kindly peruse "Nakshatra Chintamani" by Shri Chandrakant R,Bhatt,or the K.P. & Astrology Annual, Astrosecrets & K.P., etc.,where many cases are discussed a per the methodology to judge, prescribed by KSK,and many of his Illustrious students...and by experienced and expert K.P. Stalwarts... Wishing you the very best, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Mr. Yogesh, Consider a planet X whose sublord is Y. Also consider that X is a significator of 1,2, 6,5, and 9th houses and Y is a significator of 2,3 8,10,5,12. What will be interpretation for dasha of planet X? UdupaYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, As you know very well there are Natural benefics and benefics due to their stellar position,and significations... In general, if the cuspal sublord of any house signifies the houses I,II,III,VI,X & XI counted from that house,it is considered to be benefic to that house...! Houses VIII & XII,are genrally considered malefic... Houses V,IX etc could be both,benefic or malefic depending upon what matter is being judged....i.e., take the sublord of the Vth it could be detrimental for victory over enemies as it is the XIIth to the VIth., and so on...it is important to note karakas and significators of events to be judged and accordingly benefic or malefic assessment made... I hope I have made myself clear... By the way,you remind me of students who prefer to study from "guides" for their exams,and NOT text-books...they all want "readymade masalas"... or, "structured answers"...which will help them satisfy the examiner... Please do not take any offence...am just joking... I urge you to FIRST study K.P., from the K.P. Readers, thoroughly,and then, read books for gaining advanced knowledge,like ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,and many others...later...! With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Friends, The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? Thanks in advance and regards Udupa Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Dear Mr.. Yogesh, Thank you for the response. I understand your point. I will take up a real case to discuss. But first I want to buy and study the book "Astro Secrets" as you have suggested. Regards, Udupa Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, Actually,first of all,your question is not clear to me at all... The houses common are 2 & 5...among the significators denoted by the st.lord and the s/lord pl.note...then,you have not also mentioned as to what is the matter being judged ? Which karaka houses are to be judged ? The age of the subject or the DOB or TOJ ...the data given,you will surely realise, is wholly inadequate and leaves a lot to the imagination...! Wheher the horoscope is horary or natal(?) is also not clear... The RPs at the TOJ will surely help you to select the appropriate significators for fructification of the event...depending upon the matter to be judged,and the karaka houses to be judged...at what age the Dasa of the planet X begins...etc...all important considerations... As a matter of fact,Mr.Udupa,hypothetical cases are often likely to present such questions...and require adequate data to be provided...before even attempting to answer... I would suggest that we discuss a "live" case,of one of your friends or acquaintances,so as to serve as an example to members... upon the methodology to go about analysing and interpreting... There are many books available...Kindly peruse "Nakshatra Chintamani" by Shri Chandrakant R,Bhatt,or the K.P. & Astrology Annual, Astrosecrets & K.P., etc.,where many cases are discussed a per the methodology to judge, prescribed by KSK,and many of his Illustrious students...and by experienced and expert K.P. Stalwarts... Wishing you the very best, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Mr. Yogesh, Consider a planet X whose sublord is Y. Also consider that X is a significator of 1,2, 6,5, and 9th houses and Y is a significator of 2,3 8,10,5,12. What will be interpretation for dasha of planet X? UdupaYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Udupa, As you know very well there are Natural benefics and benefics due to their stellar position,and significations... In general, if the cuspal sublord of any house signifies the houses I,II,III,VI,X & XI counted from that house,it is considered to be benefic to that house...! Houses VIII & XII,are genrally considered malefic... Houses V,IX etc could be both,benefic or malefic depending upon what matter is being judged....i.e., take the sublord of the Vth it could be detrimental for victory over enemies as it is the XIIth to the VIth., and so on...it is important to note karakas and significators of events to be judged and accordingly benefic or malefic assessment made... I hope I have made myself clear... By the way,you remind me of students who prefer to study from "guides" for their exams,and NOT text-books...they all want "readymade masalas"... or, "structured answers"...which will help them satisfy the examiner... Please do not take any offence...am just joking... I urge you to FIRST study K.P., from the K.P. Readers, thoroughly,and then, read books for gaining advanced knowledge,like ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,and many others...later...! With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! AH Udupa <ahudupa wrote: Dear Friends, The concept of Benifics in KP is very different in KP as compared to natural or functional beneifics of traditional astrology. I have gone thro the relevant portions in Reader III several times and yet I have not got the grips of the deciding factors as to who is a benefic and who is not with regard to native of the horoscope. Can someone give a structured way of deciding who is a benific and who is not? Thanks in advance and regards Udupa Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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