Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details.Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Dear Balaji As far as the question of "Passing Exam." is concerned, one should apply rule that if 4th CSL is significator of 4,11,9 (4 & 11 are important) then , the person will pass the exam. Before Considering 11th CSL for the wish to fulfil, one should see the connection 4th CSL with 4 & 11. Was the connection there in your horary chart? In case of Retrograde planets & horary charts, I think...we should Not apply the Rule directly without applying the logic to the question, Great care is essential for predicting the correct thing. Regards Abhay "Balaji G.krishnan" wrote: Respected Raichurji and abhayji Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. With thanks and regardsBalaji G anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details. Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay --------- A.R.Raichur bombay anant_1608raichuranantUSE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY tel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Respected Raichurji and abhayji Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. With thanks and regards Balaji Ganant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details.Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 , " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > Respected Raichurji and abhayji > > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. > > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. > > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. > > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. > > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. > > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. > > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. > > With thanks and regards > Balaji G > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. > > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details. > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > Dear Members > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is " NO " , but, should we ignore this rule for questions like " When i will get a job? " because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like " Will i get distinction in the current exam. " ? > Regards > Abhay > > > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay > anant_1608 > raichuranant > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > tel: 022-2506 2609 > --------- > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear Balaji, 1. As mentioned many times, if you want to say something " against KSK or KP " general rules, please come up with solid references or with a reperesentative sample of research charts, not oly with one or two experiences or just your thinking or feeling. 2. In Msg#3552 I've already mentioned that Prof. Rajendra Kumar says even Dr. Kar's Retrogression theory is not working in his review of failed predictions. 3. Why you're using Hitlar's propanganda campain of saying the samething again and again to make people believe it's true, in your case saying groundless-against-KSK retro thinking again and again. Regards, tw , " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > Respected Raichurji and abhayji > > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. > > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. > > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. > > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. > > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. > > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. > > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. > > With thanks and regards > Balaji G > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. > > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details. > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > Dear Members > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is " NO " , but, should we ignore this rule for questions like " When i will get a job? " because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like " Will i get distinction in the current exam. " ? > Regards > Abhay > > > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay > anant_1608 > raichuranant > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > tel: 022-2506 2609 > --------- > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear tw853: It looks like every one is trying to re-write KP Theory . Regarding Horary System ,Prof.KSK has indicated clearly that the querist can only indicate the no. (between 1 and 249) which occurs to his mind at that particular moment , no matter which part of the world , the person is living . Further , it is the KP astrologers, who answer this question , depending on where he is living and at what time , he decides to analyse the question .So the possibility of 50 or 100 persons getting Retro Planets as Lords or Sls , for prediction of a positive or negative result is very uncommon . Also the Retro Planets , will not be , the significators , for all the 50 or 100 persons asking different questions . What is your opinion ? Thanks. Sridtw853 <tw853 wrote: , "Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:> Respected Raichurji and abhayji> > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively.> > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky.> > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also.> > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all.> > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing.> > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care.> > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify.> > With thanks and regards> Balaji G> > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service.> > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details.> > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:> Dear Members > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? > Regards > Abhay > > > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay> anant_1608 > raichuranant> USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY> tel: 022-2506 2609 > ---------> > > > > > > > > > Mail> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 No.Rule can not be ignored depending on the question.In this case the interpretation could be client may not get a job but do bisiness on his own. --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde,then, we consider that the answer is " NO " , but, should we ignorethis rule for questions like " When i will get a job? " because one willcertainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. Whatis your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of thequestions like " Will i get distinction in the current exam. " ? Regards Abhay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear Abhay, My experience says that this rule is not correct.[pl note it is my experience which I share, it is not authentic verdict]. If star lord is favorably placed say signifying 11th house or for marriage 7th house etc, you can not give a negative prediction. May analyse further. Say star lord of the cusp or sign lord of the cusp, if they also signfy positive results, the querry result should definately be positive. Also see lagna cusp or other relevant cusp to make final judgement. Inder , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear Srid, KP has been developed on solid research of years and years but not on assumptions, feeling or dreams which are seen right now. How can one rewrite KP theory without even knowing how to cast a KP horoscope properly? Just damaging the lovely spirit of Guruji KSK. Regards, tw , Sridharan <raichur_m> wrote: > Dear tw853: > It looks like every one is trying to re-write KP Theory . Regarding Horary System ,Prof.KSK > has indicated clearly that the querist can only indicate the no. (between 1 and 249) which > occurs to his mind at that particular moment , no matter which part of the world , the person > is living . Further , it is the KP astrologers, who answer this question , depending on where > he is living and at what time , he decides to analyse the question .So the possibility of 50 > or 100 persons getting Retro Planets as Lords or Sls , for prediction of a positive or negative > result is very uncommon . Also the Retro Planets , will not be , the significators , for all > the 50 or 100 persons asking different questions . What is your opinion ? > Thanks. > Srid > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > , " Balaji G.krishnan " > <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > > Respected Raichurji and abhayji > > > > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be > passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is > retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th > Apr.2005 positively. > > > > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a > negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year > for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the > year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast > in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in > retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and > jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. > > > > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in > a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other > aspects also. > > > > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to > south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th > CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage > for more than a decade years for all. > > > > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right > to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at > home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When > guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes > and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition > everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and > mentality of the public is changing. > > > > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. > > > > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. > > > > With thanks and regards > > Balaji G > > > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > > This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person > never got into service. > > > > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across > the ref. I will post the details. > > > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > > Dear Members > > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that > the answer is " NO " , but, should we ignore this rule for questions > like " When i will get a job? " because one will certainly get a job > sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your > experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the > questions like " Will i get distinction in the current exam. " ? > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > > > --------- > > A.R.Raichur bombay > > anant_1608 > > raichuranant > > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > > tel: 022-2506 2609 > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Hi there!, Sri Balaji's doubt appears to be genuine,my best comment would be when the likely result is negative, rexamine after a few hours or next day. if the answer is same then it must be true.This will eliminate the aspect of 'negativity' in the mind of the one giving answers.The bonafides of KP is re-estabilished. Astrology is at best indicative and not deterministic,a human has always a chance to change decisions.Free will is always available,that is our vedantic principle. Regards, Satish , Sridharan <raichur_m> wrote: > Dear tw853: > It looks like every one is trying to re-write KP Theory . Regarding Horary System ,Prof.KSK > has indicated clearly that the querist can only indicate the no. (between 1 and 249) which > occurs to his mind at that particular moment , no matter which part of the world , the person > is living . Further , it is the KP astrologers, who answer this question , depending on where > he is living and at what time , he decides to analyse the question .So the possibility of 50 > or 100 persons getting Retro Planets as Lords or Sls , for prediction of a positive or negative > result is very uncommon . Also the Retro Planets , will not be , the significators , for all > the 50 or 100 persons asking different questions . What is your opinion ? > Thanks. > Srid > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > , " Balaji G.krishnan " > <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > > Respected Raichurji and abhayji > > > > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be > passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is > retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th > Apr.2005 positively. > > > > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a > negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year > for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the > year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast > in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in > retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and > jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. > > > > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in > a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other > aspects also. > > > > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to > south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th > CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage > for more than a decade years for all. > > > > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right > to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at > home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When > guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes > and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition > everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and > mentality of the public is changing. > > > > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. > > > > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. > > > > With thanks and regards > > Balaji G > > > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > > This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person > never got into service. > > > > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across > the ref. I will post the details. > > > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > > Dear Members > > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that > the answer is " NO " , but, should we ignore this rule for questions > like " When i will get a job? " because one will certainly get a job > sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your > experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the > questions like " Will i get distinction in the current exam. " ? > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > > > > > --------- > > A.R.Raichur bombay > > anant_1608 > > raichuranant > > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > > tel: 022-2506 2609 > > --------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear Shri Balaji As per KSK the restriction of Retrograde planets applies only to Horary Charts and not Natal Charts."Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Respected Raichurji and abhayji Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. With thanks and regards Balaji Ganant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details.Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear Sir, Already mentioned more than one time, for example, Eighthly, KSK original is clear-cut for a Natal chart, " a planet in direct motion or retrograde-- no difference " , KP Reader VI, p 145. in Msg #3552. Highest regards, tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > Dear Shri Balaji > > As per KSK the restriction of Retrograde planets applies only to Horary Charts and not > > Natal Charts. > > " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > Respected Raichurji and abhayji > > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. > > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. > > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. > > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. > > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. > > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. > > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. > > With thanks and regards > Balaji G > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. > > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details. > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote: > Dear Members > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is " NO " , but, should we ignore this rule for questions like " When i will get a job? " because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like " Will i get distinction in the current exam. " ? > Regards > Abhay > > > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay > anant_1608 > raichuranant > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > tel: 022-2506 2609 > --------- > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Respected Raichurji In fact I have given example from my horary experience only.I very well know that in natal chart a planet has no difference either retro or direct. In this regard Late pandit/Prof.Kar has given many articles in the article written in 1997 magazine which has been accepted also by Late K.P.Subramanian(one of the expert K.P astrologer) in the same magazine. This again in the same issue 1997 page no.28 Mr.T.S.Bisht IPS is mentioning in his article as "It is not an unusual experience to note that retrogression of a planet,let alone saturn,does not prima facie constitute a bar to the fructification of an event in any capacity whatever- it does not matter whether it happens to be a retrograde saturn (planet in star) or a retro. star lord,sub lord,etc. Indeed such experiences have been published off and on for quite sometome now. He also refers an article as written by Mr.Y.S.N.Murthy in July 1993 issue Page 7 in this connection. This is not something I am the first to start or say but it is very clear if we think logically.Late pandit kar says planet never wait to give its results till that time and I will say he is the first and foremost thinker who points out bravely on this topic.Ofcourse retrograde planets should have effect but we have to think on every aspects and we should not simply follow any rules or formulas blindly without applying the logic.This is what I have understood very recently after read articles on this issue and discussed with experts in this field. With thanks and regards, Balaji G anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear Shri Balaji As per KSK the restriction of Retrograde planets applies only to Horary Charts and not Natal Charts."Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Respected Raichurji and abhayji Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. With thanks and regards Balaji Ganant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details.Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dear Balaji, K.P. very clearly says that the IVth cusp s/l should be carefully examined...for education.If it is connected with the IV,IX & XI...higher education is promised...BUT,there should be no connection at all,with VIII & XII... ! Also,Sat & Mars should not aspect the s/l of IV,for highest type of education... If there is no connection with the IXth higher education( A Post-Graduate Degree or even Diploma is not promised.) Kindly refer Astrosecrets and K.P., Part I,Pp 136-143. All of us,K.P. students, are advised by our revered the late Guruji KSK.,to analyse calmly and examine all aspects carefully,and not rush to hasty conclusions... lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Balaji As far as the question of "Passing Exam." is concerned, one should apply rule that if 4th CSL is significator of 4,11,9 (4 & 11 are important) then , the person will pass the exam. Before Considering 11th CSL for the wish to fulfil, one should see the connection 4th CSL with 4 & 11. Was the connection there in your horary chart? In case of Retrograde planets & horary charts, I think...we should Not apply the Rule directly without applying the logic to the question, Great care is essential for predicting the correct thing. Regards Abhay "Balaji G.krishnan" wrote: Respected Raichurji and abhayji Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we think it is something shaky. May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased and mentality of the public is changing. So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. With thanks and regardsBalaji G anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into service. He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post the details. Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignore this rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay --------- A.R.Raichur bombay anant_1608raichuranantUSE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY tel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Dear Balaji As a matter of good behavior an astrologer should not rush to give a " Negative answer " . Examine the chart from all angles then only say this will not happen. In respect of Retro planets, I do not have any feed back from persons to whom I given an advise. So I cannot state with authority, about this rule. Please keep records of cases where RETRO Planet in Retro star gives a positive result. If you collect at least 25 to 30 cases and analyse them, one can consider wether the rule requires change good luck --- " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: > Respected Raichurji > > In fact I have given example from my horary experience only.I very well know that in > natal chart a planet has no difference either retro or direct. > > In this regard Late pandit/Prof.Kar has given many articles in the article written in > 1997 magazine which has been accepted also by Late K.P.Subramanian(one of the expert > K.P astrologer) in the same magazine. > > This again in the same issue 1997 page no.28 Mr.T.S.Bisht IPS is mentioning in his > article as > > " It is not an unusual experience to note that retrogression of a planet,let alone > saturn,does not prima facie constitute a bar to the fructification of an event in any > capacity whatever- it does not matter whether it happens to be a retrograde saturn > (planet in star) or a retro. star lord,sub lord,etc. Indeed such experiences have been > published off and on for quite sometome now. > > He also refers an article as written by Mr.Y.S.N.Murthy in July 1993 issue Page 7 in > this connection. > > This is not something I am the first to start or say but it is very clear if we think > logically.Late pandit kar says planet never wait to give its results till that time and > I will say he is the first and foremost thinker who points out bravely on this > topic.Ofcourse retrograde planets should have effect but we have to think on every > aspects and we should not simply follow any rules or formulas blindly without applying > the logic.This is what I have understood very recently after read articles on this > issue and discussed with experts in this field. > > With thanks and regards, > Balaji G > > anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: > Dear Shri Balaji > > As per KSK the restriction of Retrograde planets applies only to Horary Charts and not > > Natal Charts. > > " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: > Respected Raichurji and abhayji > > Recently,I had one horary chart to know whether the exams will be passed or > not.Here,11th CSL is Rahu in the star of Mercury which is retrograde as on 3rd > Apr.2005.But the result I got as on 11th Apr.2005 positively. > > I doubt very much the logic of seeing retrograde planets as a negative reply.Because > mercury is retro minimum for two times a year for two months and jupiter and saturn > also beginning and end of the year.Then mars also is retro in between.If say 100 charts > are cast in a year,in that every chart will have some planets will be in retro motion > especially the beginning and end of the year saturn and jupiter.So ,logically if we > think it is something shaky. > > May be I will say,the result will be with obstacles or delay or in a confused manner > that too after taken in to consideration of other aspects also. > > Say 50 persons asks about when marriage from north to south.Atleast 10 people will have > a retrograde planet becoming 7th CSL or in the star of that planet.Is it possible to > say no marriage for more than a decade years for all. > > Then,as abhayji told regarding job,50 people asks and is it right to say for 10y years > there is no chance of job and he/she will be at home.Not logically correct is what I > feel.But days are changing.When guruji was present in 70's and now we are in > 2000+...Vast changes and differences.Life is full of pressure and > tensions...Competition everywhere..At the other end opportunities has also increased > and mentality of the public is changing. > > So,we have analyse everything and interpret with due care. > > Hope my words might be correct?.If not,please clarify. > > With thanks and regards > Balaji G > > anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: > This querry is hypothetical. But I read in an article, the person never got into > service. > > He was kept in food and shelter by some one else. If I come across the ref. I will post > the details. > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > Dear Members > If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde, then, we consider that the answer is " NO " , > but, should we ignore this rule for questions like " When i will get a job? " because one > will certainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. What is your > experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of the questions like " Will i > get distinction in the current exam. " ? > Regards > Abhay > > > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay > anant_1608 > raichuranant > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > tel: 022-2506 2609 > --------- > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. > > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay > anant_1608 > raichuranant > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > tel: 022-2506 2609 > --------- > > > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Dear Mr. Sunil We need to check this Retro. rule again in many cases because a well educated young boy ready to service only & with no indications of business in natal chart, will get a service/job sometime in his life. I have one such case, where the star lord of 10th SL is retro. in Horary chart, I Will inform about that case to group members once the things happen. Have you seen any such cases? Regards Abhay Sunil Joshi wrote: No.Rule can not be ignored depending on the question.In this case the interpretation could be client may not get a job but do bisiness on his own. --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Members If star lord of of any CSL is Retrograde,then, we consider that the answer is "NO", but, should we ignorethis rule for questions like "When i will get a job?" because one willcertainly get a job sometime in his life if he is looking for it. Whatis your experience? We can definitely consider this rule for rest of thequestions like "Will i get distinction in the current exam."? Regards Abhay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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