Just a small query regarding RP

[Guest guest]

Dear Abhay,

As per rule Rahu is representing Jupiter, and as Jupiter is retro not

to be considered so Rahu can not be taken as RPs.

 

But, in my own experience I have seen that a retro planet should not be

discarded but should be considered as RPs. Particularly if in the

native's chart you are working same planet[say Jupiter in your example]

is retro.

I know this is very controversial but I have given my experience only.

 

Moreover, RPs are used for timings of events. Then, retro rule of KP

for discarding retro may be applicable.

But if RPs are used for getting clue to some problems, then retro

planet will give you sufficient clues.

Inder

 

 

, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder

Thanks for the reply. Yes, i have

in mind your point that if any planet is Retro. & if the same planet

is retro. in original chart also, then, it should be considered in RP.

We need to observe this in many cases, then, we can definitely be sure

about it. This rule might be true, but, see my exam. given below.

Take my chart as an example, I have

Jup. (retro) in my original chart, 2 days before i plotted a "Prashna Chart"

which was of Pisces ascendant sign, wherein Reto. Jup was at 1st level

in RP + Jup. was indicating favorable answer to my question. BUt, actually,

the incidence has not happened, because i think, the Retro. planet always

give negative answer (NO) only. Reto. Jup. has not given Positive result

to my question even when it was signifying all the house required for the

positive answer.

So, think, the answer of Retro. planet is always "NO",

irrespective of the original chart.

Of course, we will need to observe

more cases, but, this example was recent, so, i remembered it.

Regards

Abhay

Inder wrote:

Dear Abhay,

As per rule Rahu is representing Jupiter, and as Jupiter is retro

not

to be considered so Rahu can not be taken as RPs.

But, in my own experience I have seen that a retro planet should

not be

discarded but should be considered as RPs. Particularly if in the

native's chart you are working same planet[say Jupiter in your

example]

is retro.

I know this is very controversial but I have given my experience

only.

Moreover, RPs are used for timings of events. Then, retro rule of

KP

for discarding retro may be applicable.

But if RPs are used for getting clue to some problems, then retro

planet will give you sufficient clues.

Inder

 

, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...>

wrote:

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Abhay,

As per rule Rahu is representing Jupiter, and as Jupiter is retro not

to be considered so Rahu can not be taken as RPs.

 

But, in my own experience I have seen that a retro planet should not be

discarded but should be considered as RPs. Particularly if in the

native's chart you are working same planet[say Jupiter in your example]

is retro.

I know this is very controversial but I have given my experience only.

 

Moreover, RPs are used for timings of events. Then, retro rule of KP

for discarding retro may be applicable.

But if RPs are used for getting clue to some problems, then retro

planet will give you sufficient clues.

Inder

 

 

, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder

Thanks for the reply. Yes, i have

in mind your point that if any planet is Retro. & if the same planet

is retro. in original chart also, then, it should be considered in RP.

We need to observe this in many cases, then, we can definitely be sure

about it. This rule might be true, but, see my exam. given below.

Take my chart as an example, I have

Jup. (retro) in my original chart, 2 days before i plotted a "Prashna Chart"

which was of Pisces ascendant sign, wherein Reto. Jup was at 1st level

in RP + Jup. was indicating favorable answer to my question. BUt, actually,

the incidence has not happened, because i think, the Retro. planet always

give negative answer (NO) only. Reto. Jup. has not given Positive result

to my question even when it was signifying all the house required for the

positive answer.

So, think, the answer of Retro. planet is always "NO",

irrespective of the original chart.

Of course, we will need to observe

more cases, but, this example was recent, so, i remembered it.

Regards

Abhay

Inder wrote:

Dear Abhay,

As per rule Rahu is representing Jupiter, and as Jupiter is retro

not

to be considered so Rahu can not be taken as RPs.

But, in my own experience I have seen that a retro planet should

not be

discarded but should be considered as RPs. Particularly if in the

native's chart you are working same planet[say Jupiter in your

example]

is retro.

I know this is very controversial but I have given my experience

only.

Moreover, RPs are used for timings of events. Then, retro rule of

KP

for discarding retro may be applicable.

But if RPs are used for getting clue to some problems, then retro

planet will give you sufficient clues.

Inder

 

, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...>

wrote:

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes , I agree with you .Weshould observe more to come to any

conclusions.

Inder

 

, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Yes , I agree with you .Weshould observe more to come to any

conclusions.

Inder

 

, Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Abhay

1. Yes,Rah will be a RP

Ranade

--- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

 

 

Dear Members

I just have one small query regardingRuling planets,

if all can throw light on it i will be greatful.

Suppose, The Ruling planets are,

Mer.

Jup.(Retro.)

Venus

Venus

In this case, Since Ketu is in virgo(mer'ssign), we

will add " Ketu " to the ruling, now, since Jup. is

retro. , wewill Not consider Jup. in the Ruling.

correct? Now, Since " Rahu " is inJup's sign, Should we

consider Rahu in the ruling or we shouldn't?

Thanks in advance !!

Regards

Abhay

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Abhay

1. Yes,Rah will be a RP

Ranade

--- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

 

 

Dear Members

I just have one small query regardingRuling planets,

if all can throw light on it i will be greatful.

Suppose, The Ruling planets are,

Mer.

Jup.(Retro.)

Venus

Venus

In this case, Since Ketu is in virgo(mer'ssign), we

will add " Ketu " to the ruling, now, since Jup. is

retro. , wewill Not consider Jup. in the Ruling.

correct? Now, Since " Rahu " is inJup's sign, Should we

consider Rahu in the ruling or we shouldn't?

Thanks in advance !!

Regards

Abhay

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder,

 

1. Your understanding of to come up with further observation is a

welcome development. Not thousands examples as you've said in a post

not nedded but will need a sufficient number number of samples of

observation to support your repeated against-KSK-KP retrogression view

which is up to now not supported by any solid references of research.

 

2. Another welcome development is that you're now using Astraura's SW

as mentioned by you in a post from the early stage of asking for

Astraura's KP charts as shown below. It will help your observation.

 

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

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" Inder " <indervohra2001

Mon Feb 7, 2005 7:11 am

Re: A Curse/KP Chart? indervohra2001

 

 

Dear Bob,

Yes, I was reading your chart as given here.

This is your chart.

Inder

 

, " Bob Singh "

<rayseth2001> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Inder,

> If this is what you were talking about, it was posted by someone

else

> for me I think. I do not have the software to do this. Do confirm

if

> this is what you meant, when you said that prospects for marriage

are

> negligible.

>

> Regards

>

> Bob

>

> > > > Astraura's Vedic Horoscope

> > > >

> > > > System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 23° 18' 34 "

> > > > Name : Bob Singh

> > > > Place : Mangalore, India

> > > > Date : 23-1-1968 Tuesday

> > > > Time : 0-10-0

> > > > Longitude : 74-53-0 East

> > > > Latitude : 12-52-0 North

> > > > Zone : IST 5.5

> > > > Settings : Universal Time

> > > > Sid.Time : 7° 44' 16 "

> > > > Latitude : Geocentric

> > > > Cusp System: Placidus

> > > >

> > > > Planet Longitude KP Pointer House

> > > > Sun 8° Cp 30' 13.4945 " Sat-Sun-Ven-Mar 4

> > > > Mercury 23° Cp 59' 59.8564 " Sat-Mar-Mar-Ven 4

> > > > Venus 1° Sa 52' 5.8371 " Jup-Ket-Ven-Rah 3

> > > > Moon 7° Li 58' 49.0383 " Ven-Rah-Rah-Ven 1

> > > > Mars 17° Aq 6' 8.4962 " Sat-Rah-Ven-Mer 5

> > > > JupR) 10° Le 58' 57.3467 " Sun-Ket-Sat-Rah 11

> > > > Saturn 14° Pi 3' 47.0407 " Jup-Sat-Rah-Ket 6

> > > > Ura® 5° Vi 45' 2.8139 " Mer-Sun-Mer-Ven 12

> > > > Neptune 2° Sc 51' 59.1837 " Mar-Jup-Rah-Ven 2

> > > > Plu® 29° Le 20' 51.5505 " Sun-Sun-Rah-Rah 11

> > > > Rahu 29° Pi 31' 53.1315 " Jup-Mer-Sat-Rah 6

> > > > Ketu 29° Vi 31' 53.1315 " Mer-Mar-Sat-Rah 12

> > > > Lagna 2° Li 21' 32.643 " Ven-Mar-Ket-Jup 1

> > > >

> > > > Cusps Longitude KP Pointer

> > > > I 2° Li 21' 32.643 " Ven-Mar-Ket-Jup

> > > > II 2° Sc 5' 32.7696 " Mar-Jup-Rah-Sat

> > > > III 1° Sa 21' 46.2929 " Jup-Ket-Ven-Moo

> > > > IV 0° Cp 51' 45.2597 " Sat-Sun-Rah-Sun

> > > > V 1° Aq 29' 28.1121 " Sat-Mar-Mer-Jup

> > > > VI 2° Pi 40' 11.9539 " Jup-Jup-Rah-Ven

> > > > VII 2° Ar 21' 32.643 " Mar-Ket-Ven-Sat

> > > > VIII 2° Ta 5' 32.7696 " Ven-Sun-Jup-Ket

> > > > IX 1° Ge 21' 46.2929 " Mer-Mar-Mer-Jup

> > > > X 0° Cn 51' 45.2597 " Moo-Jup-Mar-Sat

> > > > XI 1° Le 29' 28.1121 " Sun-Ket-Ven-Mar

> > > > XII 2° Vi 40' 11.9539 " Mer-Sun-Jup-Mar

> > > > Fortuna 1° Cn 50' 8.1868 " Moo-Jup-Rah-Jup

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 6 - 57 - 06 | 6 - 27 - 17

> > > > Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 7 - 0 - 44 | 6 - 23 - 39

> > > > Lagna : Thula Chitra 3

> > > > Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Thula

> > > > Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Swati 1

> > > > Lunar Half (Paksha) : Krishna Paksha (Declining Phase)

> > > > Lunar Day (Thithi) : Apara Ashthami 23

> > > > Yoga : Dhriti

> > > > Karana : Balavam

> > > > Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Rahu

> > > > Dasa Balance : 16 Y:2 M:23 D

> > > > Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Rahu

> > > > Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:11 M:8 D

> > > > Current Date : 2/4/2005

> > > > Current Dasa running : Sat-Mer-Rah

> > > > : Saturn Dasa upto: 16-Apr-2019

> > > > : Mercury Bhukti upto: 27-Dec-2005

> > > > : Rahu Antar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

>

>

> , " Bob Singh "

> <rayseth2001> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Inder,

> > I have never posted my KP chart.

> > Regards

> > Bob

> >

> >

> > , " Inder "

<indervohra2001>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bob,

> > > What I meant as you have posted your KP chart can you give

their

> > > charts?

> > > Inder

> > >

> > > , " Bob Singh "

> > > <rayseth2001> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Inder,

> > > > Thank you for your analysis. The details of my brother and

sister

> > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > Brother

> > > > > > =======

> > > > > > Name: Ro

> > > > > > DOB: 6th July 1973

> > > > > > Time: 9:48 a.m.

> > > > > > Place: Mumbai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sister

> > > > > > =======

> > > > > > Name: Di

> > > > > > DOB: 25th July 1975

> > > > > > Time: 1:49 a.m.

> > > > > > Place: Mumbai

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Bob

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Inder "

> > > <indervohra2001>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hallo Bob,

> > > > > You gave your Kp chart in some message above. Should have

> > > analysed

> > > > > by some KP astrologer.??

> > > > > As I see Saturn and Rahu in 6th house [12th to 7th], and

other

> > > > > configration show that prospects of marriage in your chart

are

> > > > > negligbe. Many planets are in the star and sub of negative

> > > forces

> > > > > like Sat, rahu, Ketu etc. Sun and Mer also donot

contribute

> > > anything

> > > > > positive.

> > > > > Mars jupiter axix can give you some good friendhip etc but

> > > chances

> > > > > of marriage are not there.

> > > > > Sat(in own star) and Rahu in 6 also show that you are

likely to

> > > > > continue in job with decent earnings.

> > > > >

> > > > > Give chart of your brothe and sis to examine.

> > > > > Good luck

> > > > >

> > > > > Inder

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -- In , " Bob Singh "

> > > > > <rayseth2001> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have tremendous concern and also that of my mother,

that

> > > both my

> > > > > > brother and sister are not getting prospectives for

marriage.

> > > My

> > > > > > brother meets a lot of girls, but somehow it does not

stick.

> > > As

> > > > > for my

> > > > > > sister, she just does not get mental compatibility.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I too, as said earlier, am unmarried.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could there be a curse? This was suggested to me, that

there

> > > could

> > > > > be

> > > > > > a bad eye from a relative from my father's side. My

father died

> > > > > > suddenly August 12, 2000.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Brother

> > > > > > =======

> > > > > > Name: Ro

> > > > > > DOB: 6th July 1973

> > > > > > Time: 9:48 a.m.

> > > > > > Place: Mumbai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sister

> > > > > > =======

> > > > > > Name: Di

> > > > > > DOB: 25th July 1975

> > > > > > Time: 1:49 a.m.

> > > > > > Place: Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote:

> Yes , I agree with you .Weshould observe more to come to any

> conclusions.

> Inder

>

> , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...>

wrote:

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear TW,

1]It amazes me how you are stuck with BOb singh case. Most of the

time, for any analysis I prepare my own chart, but as he had posted

one KP chart, I used that. But I am wondering what you find so

unususl in this case.

 

2] As regards sublord of any cusp in any retro star not giving

positive result. I have seen in several case that this rule is

failing. If that sublord and star lord are favourable then I hesitate

to give negative results. This is my own experience.

And no question of forcing it on others, so I say, that this should

be seen/tested by all to believe/follow this.

I hope I carified.

Inder

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> Dear Inder,

>

> 1. Your understanding of to come up with further observation is a

> welcome development. Not thousands examples as you've said in a

post

> not nedded but will need a sufficient number number of samples of

> observation to support your repeated against-KSK-KP retrogression

view

> which is up to now not supported by any solid references of

research.

>

> 2. Another welcome development is that you're now using Astraura's

SW

> as mentioned by you in a post from the early stage of asking for

> Astraura's KP charts as shown below. It will help your observation.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

>

>

>

> Message 14292 of 16344 < Previous | Next >

>

>

> " Inder " <indervohra2001@>

> Mon Feb 7, 2005 7:11 am

> Re: A Curse/KP Chart? indervohra2001

>

>

> Dear Bob,

> Yes, I was reading your chart as given here.

> This is your chart.

> Inder

>

> , " Bob Singh "

> <rayseth2001> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Inder,

> > If this is what you were talking about, it was posted by someone

> else

> > for me I think. I do not have the software to do this. Do confirm

> if

> > this is what you meant, when you said that prospects for marriage

> are

> > negligible.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > > > > Astraura's Vedic Horoscope

> > > > >

> > > > > System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 23° 18' 34 "

> > > > > Name : Bob Singh

> > > > > Place : Mangalore, India

> > > > > Date : 23-1-1968 Tuesday

> > > > > Time : 0-10-0

> > > > > Longitude : 74-53-0 East

> > > > > Latitude : 12-52-0 North

> > > > > Zone : IST 5.5

> > > > > Settings : Universal Time

> > > > > Sid.Time : 7° 44' 16 "

> > > > > Latitude : Geocentric

> > > > > Cusp System: Placidus

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Longitude KP Pointer House

> > > > > Sun 8° Cp 30' 13.4945 " Sat-Sun-Ven-Mar 4

> > > > > Mercury 23° Cp 59' 59.8564 " Sat-Mar-Mar-Ven 4

> > > > > Venus 1° Sa 52' 5.8371 " Jup-Ket-Ven-Rah 3

> > > > > Moon 7° Li 58' 49.0383 " Ven-Rah-Rah-Ven 1

> > > > > Mars 17° Aq 6' 8.4962 " Sat-Rah-Ven-Mer 5

> > > > > JupR) 10° Le 58' 57.3467 " Sun-Ket-Sat-Rah 11

> > > > > Saturn 14° Pi 3' 47.0407 " Jup-Sat-Rah-Ket 6

> > > > > Ura® 5° Vi 45' 2.8139 " Mer-Sun-Mer-Ven 12

> > > > > Neptune 2° Sc 51' 59.1837 " Mar-Jup-Rah-Ven 2

> > > > > Plu® 29° Le 20' 51.5505 " Sun-Sun-Rah-Rah 11

> > > > > Rahu 29° Pi 31' 53.1315 " Jup-Mer-Sat-Rah 6

> > > > > Ketu 29° Vi 31' 53.1315 " Mer-Mar-Sat-Rah 12

> > > > > Lagna 2° Li 21' 32.643 " Ven-Mar-Ket-Jup 1

> > > > >

> > > > > Cusps Longitude KP Pointer

> > > > > I 2° Li 21' 32.643 " Ven-Mar-Ket-Jup

> > > > > II 2° Sc 5' 32.7696 " Mar-Jup-Rah-Sat

> > > > > III 1° Sa 21' 46.2929 " Jup-Ket-Ven-Moo

> > > > > IV 0° Cp 51' 45.2597 " Sat-Sun-Rah-Sun

> > > > > V 1° Aq 29' 28.1121 " Sat-Mar-Mer-Jup

> > > > > VI 2° Pi 40' 11.9539 " Jup-Jup-Rah-Ven

> > > > > VII 2° Ar 21' 32.643 " Mar-Ket-Ven-Sat

> > > > > VIII 2° Ta 5' 32.7696 " Ven-Sun-Jup-Ket

> > > > > IX 1° Ge 21' 46.2929 " Mer-Mar-Mer-Jup

> > > > > X 0° Cn 51' 45.2597 " Moo-Jup-Mar-Sat

> > > > > XI 1° Le 29' 28.1121 " Sun-Ket-Ven-Mar

> > > > > XII 2° Vi 40' 11.9539 " Mer-Sun-Jup-Mar

> > > > > Fortuna 1° Cn 50' 8.1868 " Moo-Jup-Rah-Jup

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 6 - 57 - 06 | 6 - 27 - 17

> > > > > Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 7 - 0 - 44 | 6 - 23 - 39

> > > > > Lagna : Thula Chitra 3

> > > > > Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Thula

> > > > > Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Swati 1

> > > > > Lunar Half (Paksha) : Krishna Paksha (Declining Phase)

> > > > > Lunar Day (Thithi) : Apara Ashthami 23

> > > > > Yoga : Dhriti

> > > > > Karana : Balavam

> > > > > Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Rahu

> > > > > Dasa Balance : 16 Y:2 M:23 D

> > > > > Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Rahu

> > > > > Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:11 M:8 D

> > > > > Current Date : 2/4/2005

> > > > > Current Dasa running : Sat-Mer-Rah

> > > > > : Saturn Dasa upto: 16-Apr-2019

> > > > > : Mercury Bhukti upto: 27-Dec-2005

> > > > > : Rahu Antar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bob Singh "

> > <rayseth2001> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Inder,

> > > I have never posted my KP chart.

> > > Regards

> > > Bob

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Inder "

> <indervohra2001>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bob,

> > > > What I meant as you have posted your KP chart can you give

> their

> > > > charts?

> > > > Inder

> > > >

> > > > , " Bob Singh "

> > > > <rayseth2001> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Inder,

> > > > > Thank you for your analysis. The details of my brother and

> sister

> > > > are

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Brother

> > > > > > > =======

> > > > > > > Name: Ro

> > > > > > > DOB: 6th July 1973

> > > > > > > Time: 9:48 a.m.

> > > > > > > Place: Mumbai

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sister

> > > > > > > =======

> > > > > > > Name: Di

> > > > > > > DOB: 25th July 1975

> > > > > > > Time: 1:49 a.m.

> > > > > > > Place: Mumbai

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Bob

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Inder "

> > > > <indervohra2001>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hallo Bob,

> > > > > > You gave your Kp chart in some message above. Should have

> > > > analysed

> > > > > > by some KP astrologer.??

> > > > > > As I see Saturn and Rahu in 6th house [12th to 7th], and

> other

> > > > > > configration show that prospects of marriage in your chart

> are

> > > > > > negligbe. Many planets are in the star and sub of negative

> > > > forces

> > > > > > like Sat, rahu, Ketu etc. Sun and Mer also donot

> contribute

> > > > anything

> > > > > > positive.

> > > > > > Mars jupiter axix can give you some good friendhip etc but

> > > > chances

> > > > > > of marriage are not there.

> > > > > > Sat(in own star) and Rahu in 6 also show that you are

> likely to

> > > > > > continue in job with decent earnings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Give chart of your brothe and sis to examine.

> > > > > > Good luck

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- In , " Bob Singh "

> > > > > > <rayseth2001> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have tremendous concern and also that of my mother,

> that

> > > > both my

> > > > > > > brother and sister are not getting prospectives for

> marriage.

> > > > My

> > > > > > > brother meets a lot of girls, but somehow it does not

> stick.

> > > > As

> > > > > > for my

> > > > > > > sister, she just does not get mental compatibility.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I too, as said earlier, am unmarried.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could there be a curse? This was suggested to me, that

> there

> > > > could

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > a bad eye from a relative from my father's side. My

> father died

> > > > > > > suddenly August 12, 2000.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Brother

> > > > > > > =======

> > > > > > > Name: Ro

> > > > > > > DOB: 6th July 1973

> > > > > > > Time: 9:48 a.m.

> > > > > > > Place: Mumbai

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sister

> > > > > > > =======

> > > > > > > Name: Di

> > > > > > > DOB: 25th July 1975

> > > > > > > Time: 1:49 a.m.

> > > > > > > Place: Mumbai

, " Inder " <indervohra2001>

wrote:

> > Yes , I agree with you .Weshould observe more to come to any

> > conclusions.

> > Inder

> >

> > , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...>

> wrote:

> > >