Lalkitab

January 18, 2007

lalkitab , " omi2ash " <omi2ash

wrote:

>

> could i buy lalkitab in urdu? how from where?

>

> omi2ash from italy.

>

hwo are you man from italy what is your name im sorry deaf im have

hasband and children thank you

January 18, 2009

RESPECTED LAL KITAB DEVOTIES,PRANAM I,PT.RIBHU KANT GOSWAMI S/O DAIVAGYA PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMI IS HERE TO CLARIFY THAT PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMI IS NOT AUTHOR OF SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB HE NEVER CLAIMED HE IS AUTHOR OF SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB .IF YOU SEE THE TITLE OF 1942 EDITION IT IS WRITTEN PANDIT ROOP CHAND JOSHI KRIT ILM SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB TARMEEM SHUDHA (1942) . PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMI AND HIS TEAM HAS TRANSLITERATED SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB .ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BOOK WHERE WE HAVE MENTIONED THE WORD AUTHOR IS FOR BOOKS LAL KITAB (ENGLISH),LAL DAIRY,UPAY MARTAND,KAUN MANGLIK KAUN NAHI, AND JAMDAGNI BHAVISHYA LAGHU PANCHANG .LAL KITAB (ENGLISH) CO â€“AUTHOR IS PT.L.K.VASHISHT. STILL YOU THINK WE ARE DOING DELIBERATELY WE APOLOGIES FOR THAT . à¤®à¤¨à¥à¤¤à¥à¤°à¤¹à¥€à¤¨à¤‚ à¤•à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤¯à¤¾à¤¹à¥€à¤¨à¤‚ à¤à¤•à¥à¤¤à¤¿à¤¹à¥€à¤¨à¤‚

kulbirbance <kulbirbance Sent: Friday, 16 January, 2009 12:57:14 PM lalkitab

Dear members, i thought it appropriate to share this information with the group to get an appropriate answer.there is a person in pt. Roop Chand Joshi's native village pharwala whose father Shri Durgadas was a close associate of pt ji at the time of writing these books.when we met him he mentioned that lalkitab was not singlehandedly authored by pt ji. there was a group which can be termed as his partners or assistants but in my thought friends who used to discuss astrology and as it was a tradition in those days to compose them into poetic form, which related to writing kavishri which was popular both as form of entertainment and storing / sharing knowledge about subjects mainly historical or prevelant.these people would compose couplets with of course pt ji having a greater command and say.compared with them, pt ji had larger resources at hand (financial, contacts, language etc.) and with

the publishing of these books only pt ji's and girdhari lalji's name remained but others were (conveniently) forgotten.i think it is appropriate that the group should share any information on this subject and make further research in this respect because if such persons had made some contribution their efforts ought to be duly recognised.regardskulbir

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January 18, 2009

Ribhu ji,

the doubts in your mind are unfounded; u have mentioned pt ji' name as author on the cover page itself plus published pt ji's and girdhari lal ji's photpgraphs also.

my objection concerns to 2 points;

1. the sarsari note included in all the editions advocates that the cover of the book be of dull red colour; u have reapeated the mistake twice.

2. ur respected father's invitation sent through net had (may be by mistake) contained whereby he has been mentioned author of lalkitab 39, 40 and 42.

ur father and his team has done a graet service but it would be appreciated that the coverpage of the next edition is in dull red colour as prescribed by the book itself, u can give other information on other pages inside the book.

regards

kulbir

On 1/18/09, Ribhukant Goswami <ribhukantgoswami wrote:

RESPECTED LAL KITAB DEVOTIES,PRANAM I,PT.RIBHU KANT GOSWAMI S/O DAIVAGYA PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMI IS HERE TO CLARIFY THAT PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMI IS NOT AUTHOR OF SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB HE NEVER CLAIMED HE IS AUTHOR OF SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB .IF YOU SEE THE TITLE OF 1942 EDITION IT IS WRITTEN PANDIT ROOP CHAND JOSHI KRIT ILM SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB TARMEEM SHUDHA (1942) . PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMI AND HIS TEAM HAS TRANSLITERATED SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB .ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BOOK WHERE WE HAVE MENTIONED THE WORD AUTHOR IS FOR BOOKS LAL KITAB (ENGLISH),LAL DAIRY,UPAY MARTAND,KAUN MANGLIK KAUN NAHI, AND JAMDAGNI BHAVISHYA LAGHU PANCHANG .LAL KITAB (ENGLISH) CO â€“AUTHOR IS PT.L.K.VASHISHT. STILL YOU THINK WE ARE DOING DELIBERATELY WE APOLOGIES FOR THAT .

kulbirbance <kulbirbance

Friday, 16 January, 2009 12:57:14 PM lalkitab

Dear members, i thought it appropriate to share this information with the group to get an appropriate answer.there is a person in pt. Roop Chand Joshi's native village pharwala whose father Shri Durgadas was a close associate of pt ji at the time

of writing these books.when we met him he mentioned that lalkitab was not singlehandedly authored by pt ji. there was a group which can be termed as his partners or assistants but in my thought friends who used to discuss

astrology and as it was a tradition in those days to compose them into poetic form, which related to writing kavishri which was popular both as form of entertainment and storing / sharing knowledge about subjects mainly historical or prevelant.

these people would compose couplets with of course pt ji having a greater command and say.compared with them, pt ji had larger resources at hand (financial, contacts, language etc.) and with the publishing of these books only

pt ji's and girdhari lalji's name remained but others were (conveniently) forgotten.i think it is appropriate that the group should share any information on this subject and make further research in this respect because if

such persons had made some contribution their efforts ought to be duly recognised.regardskulbir

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January 18, 2009

Dear Ribhu ji

I know your father for the last 4-5 years, he is a kid hearted person

who treats Pt. jee as his Manas Guru. He can never commit such a

mistake intentionally, it is the result of ignorance,I hope that

during the publishing of 1952 edition, this type of error shall not be

repeated. Your timely clarification has increased my respect for your

respected father manifold.

Sincerely

Yograj Prabhakar

, Ribhukant Goswami

<ribhukantgoswami wrote:

>

> RESPECTED LAL KITAB DEVOTIES,PRANAM Â Â Â Â Â Â I,PT.RIBHU KANT

GOSWAMI S/O DAIVAGYA PANDIT BENI MADHAV GOSWAMIÂ IS HERE TO CLARIFY

THAT PANDITÂ BENI MADHAV GOSWAMIÂ IS NOT AUTHOR OF SAMUNDRIK KI LAL

KITABÂ HE NEVER CLAIMED HE IS AUTHOR OFÂ Â SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITABÂ

..IF YOU SEE THE TITLE OF 1942 EDITION IT IS WRITTEN PANDIT ROOP CHAND

JOSHI KRIT ILM SAMUNDRIK KI LAL KITAB TARMEEM SHUDHA (1942) . PANDITÂ

BENI MADHAV GOSWAMIÂ AND HIS TEAMÂ HAS TRANSLITERATED SAMUNDRIK KI

LAL KITAB .ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BOOK WHERE WE HAVE MENTIONED THE

WORD AUTHOR IS FOR BOOKS LAL KITAB (ENGLISH),LAL DAIRY,UPAY

MARTAND,KAUN MANGLIK KAUN NAHI, AND JAMDAGNI BHAVISHYA LAGHU PANCHANG

..LAL KITAB (ENGLISH) CO â€ " AUTHOR IS PT.L.K.VASHISHT. STILL YOU THINK

WE ARE DOING DELIBERATELY WE APOLOGIES FOR THAT .

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> kulbirbance <kulbirbance

>

> Friday, 16 January, 2009 12:57:14 PM

> lalkitab

>

> Dear members, i thought it appropriate to share this information with

> the group to get an appropriate answer.

> there is a person in pt. Roop Chand Joshi's native village pharwala

> whose father Shri Durgadas was a close associate of pt ji at the time

> of writing these books.

> when we met him he mentioned that lalkitab was not singlehandedly

> authored by pt ji. there was a group which can be termed as his

> partners or assistants but in my thought friends who used to discuss

> astrology and as it was a tradition in those days to compose them

> into poetic form, which related to writing kavishri which was popular

> both as form of entertainment and storing / sharing knowledge about

> subjects mainly historical or prevelant.

> these people would compose couplets with of course pt ji having a

> greater command and say.

> compared with them, pt ji had larger resources at hand (financial,

> contacts, language etc.) and with the publishing of these books only

> pt ji's and girdhari lalji's name remained but others were

> (conveniently) forgotten.

> i think it is appropriate that the group should share any information

> on this subject and make further research in this respect because if

> such persons had made some contribution their efforts ought to be

> duly recognised.

> regards

> kulbir

>

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December 15, 2009

Dear friends

Pt. Chandra Muni Pathak has an interesting note in his commentary on lalkitab;

i don't know how to translate it into English so i am putting it as such in

Romanised Hindi;

" " 1. Bharat mein grahon ka jyotishiye jyan saurmandal ke grahon se sambhandhit

nahin hai, apitu ek aisa sidhanth hai, jisme yeh bataya gaya hai ki kissi bhi

prakrtik - aprakritik ikkayion me balrekhaon se bane oorja uttsarjan bindu kaun

kaun hain. Saurmandal ke grahon ki pehchan bhi isi sidhant ke tahat ki gayi,

isliye inme samanta pratit hoti hai.

2. kissi bhi ikkayi mein grah ke naam se jaane wale in 9 binduon se bhin bhin

prakar ki oorja-trange uttpan hoti hain. us ikkayi ki aakriti avam uski

gun-pravartiyan in hi trango ke gunnatamak samikaran par nirbhar karti hai.

3. inhi tarango ko bharat mein devi devta ke naam se bhi jaana jata hai.

4. Lalkitab mein grahon ki vastyon ki sarini inhi tarango ki sthiti ko

pehchankar banayi gayi hai, " " .

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

December 15, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

Interesting. Where is this commentary of Muni Pathak available? Which

publication?

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:41 AM, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Muni Pathak has an interesting note in his commentary on lalkitab; i don't

> know how to translate it into English so i am putting it as such in

> Romanised Hindi;

> " " 1. Bharat mein grahon ka jyotishiye jyan saurmandal ke grahon se

> sambhandhit nahin hai, apitu ek aisa sidhanth hai, jisme yeh bataya gaya hai

> ki kissi bhi prakrtik - aprakritik ikkayion me balrekhaon se bane oorja

> uttsarjan bindu kaun kaun hain. Saurmandal ke grahon ki pehchan bhi isi

> sidhant ke tahat ki gayi, isliye inme samanta pratit hoti hai.

> 2. kissi bhi ikkayi mein grah ke naam se jaane wale in 9 binduon se bhin

> bhin prakar ki oorja-trange uttpan hoti hain. us ikkayi ki aakriti avam uski

> gun-pravartiyan in hi trango ke gunnatamak samikaran par nirbhar karti hai.

> 3. inhi tarango ko bharat mein devi devta ke naam se bhi jaana jata hai.

> 4. Lalkitab mein grahon ki vastyon ki sarini inhi tarango ki sthiti ko

> pehchankar banayi gayi hai, " " .

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

December 15, 2009

Desr Punit Ji;

This book's title is Lalkitab; written Pt. Chandra Munni Pathak;

Published by Anand prakashan, 1932, kooncha chellan, khaari bauli, delhi 110006.

Contact no given is 23923021.

Regards

kulbir Bains.

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> Interesting. Where is this commentary of Muni Pathak available? Which

> publication?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:41 AM, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> >

> > Muni Pathak has an interesting note in his commentary on lalkitab; i don't

> > know how to translate it into English so i am putting it as such in

> > Romanised Hindi;

> > " " 1. Bharat mein grahon ka jyotishiye jyan saurmandal ke grahon se

> > sambhandhit nahin hai, apitu ek aisa sidhanth hai, jisme yeh bataya gaya hai

> > ki kissi bhi prakrtik - aprakritik ikkayion me balrekhaon se bane oorja

> > uttsarjan bindu kaun kaun hain. Saurmandal ke grahon ki pehchan bhi isi

> > sidhant ke tahat ki gayi, isliye inme samanta pratit hoti hai.

> > 2. kissi bhi ikkayi mein grah ke naam se jaane wale in 9 binduon se bhin

> > bhin prakar ki oorja-trange uttpan hoti hain. us ikkayi ki aakriti avam uski

> > gun-pravartiyan in hi trango ke gunnatamak samikaran par nirbhar karti hai.

> > 3. inhi tarango ko bharat mein devi devta ke naam se bhi jaana jata hai.

> > 4. Lalkitab mein grahon ki vastyon ki sarini inhi tarango ki sthiti ko

> > pehchankar banayi gayi hai, " " .

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

>

December 16, 2009

DEAR KULBIRJI

THANKS FOR THE GOOD NEWS

BUT D'NOT FARGET TO GIVE EBOOK ADDRESS

JAYSHRIKRISHNA

RAMESH

December 16, 2009

Thanks Kulbir ji.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Desr Punit Ji;

> This book's title is Lalkitab; written Pt. Chandra Munni Pathak;

> Published by Anand prakashan, 1932, kooncha chellan, khaari bauli, delhi

> 110006.

> Contact no given is 23923021.

> Regards

> kulbir Bains.

>

> lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> <punitp wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Interesting. Where is this commentary of Muni Pathak available? Which

> > publication?

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:41 AM, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Muni Pathak has an interesting note in his commentary on lalkitab; i

> don't

> > > know how to translate it into English so i am putting it as such in

> > > Romanised Hindi;

> > > " " 1. Bharat mein grahon ka jyotishiye jyan saurmandal ke grahon se

> > > sambhandhit nahin hai, apitu ek aisa sidhanth hai, jisme yeh bataya

> gaya hai

> > > ki kissi bhi prakrtik - aprakritik ikkayion me balrekhaon se bane oorja

> > > uttsarjan bindu kaun kaun hain. Saurmandal ke grahon ki pehchan bhi isi

> > > sidhant ke tahat ki gayi, isliye inme samanta pratit hoti hai.

> > > 2. kissi bhi ikkayi mein grah ke naam se jaane wale in 9 binduon se

> bhin

> > > bhin prakar ki oorja-trange uttpan hoti hain. us ikkayi ki aakriti avam

> uski

> > > gun-pravartiyan in hi trango ke gunnatamak samikaran par nirbhar karti

> hai.

> > > 3. inhi tarango ko bharat mein devi devta ke naam se bhi jaana jata

> hai.

> > > 4. Lalkitab mein grahon ki vastyon ki sarini inhi tarango ki sthiti ko

> > > pehchankar banayi gayi hai, " " .

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> >

December 16, 2009

Dear Ramesh Ji; I claim to know Prabhakar ji like no one else; i am his prodigal

son; my name finds mention in his will alongside his 2 sons;

he will release the book as a mark of respect to Pt. Ji. most probably on

24-12-2009; the day when Pt. Ji. left this planet or on Pt ji's Birthday.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

, jora wrote:

>

> DEAR KULBIRJI

> THANKS FOR THE GOOD NEWS

> BUT D'NOT FARGET TO GIVE EBOOK ADDRESS

> JAYSHRIKRISHNA

> RAMESH

>

> kulbir <kulbirbains

>

> Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:53 am

> Re: Lalkitab Good News;

>

> Very Dear Bhaskar ji; This will make you feel proud.

> Sh. Yog Raj Prabhakar Ji had printed and published the 1941 version in

transcript of hindi; i mean only the script was changed but words; even line

number and page number remained the same. its cost was Rs. 400. While i was

reading Shri Rohini Ji's message i got a call from him that he is going to

release Ebook version of this Hindi Transliteration of 'LalKitab Teesra

Hissa-1941' done by him to general public shortly. Now Everyone in the world can

have the opportunity of reading and printing 1941 version of this Great

Manuscript.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Kulbir jee,

> >

> > Thanks for your response. Much apprecited!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > Lalkitb comprises of 5 books

> > > 1. Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Farmaan, published in 1939 AD;

> > > 2. Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Armaan, published in 1940 AD:

> > > 3. Lalkitab Teesra Hissa published, in 1941 AD:

> > > 4. Lalkitab Tarmeemshuda published, in 1942 AD;

> > > 5. Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par jyotish ki Lalkitab published in 1952 AD.

> > > The books have photograph of Pt. Sharma Girdhari Lal; resident of Pharwala

depicting him as printer and publisher and the name of Shri Aatma Ram Sharma

resident of Tehsil Noorpur; District Kangra is mentioned as Katib (

calighrapher, composer script-writter).

> > > The books were printed at Jahaazi Press, Lahore and contact address

mentioned is of Calcutta Photo Shop; Amritsar; Calcutta Photo Shop; Dharmshala;

Kangra. Calcutta Photo Shop.

> > > The author of these books is Pt. Rup Chand Joshi son of Shri Jyoti Ram

Joshi resident of Village Pharwala, District Jalandhar; Punjab; Date of birth

18-01-1898; or 10-5-1898; Pt. Ji served in Defense accounts and retired as

Assistant Accounts officer. He was posted at different places in India e.g

Lahore, Dharamshal, Bombay, Madras, Ambala, Shimla. During his service tenure.

He expired on 24-12-1982.

> > > Pt. Girdhari lal Sharma ji and Pt Rup Chand joshi ji were first cousins.

> > > These books were written in Urdu script and published in a small number.

Over the years English and hindi took the centre stage, pushing Urdu into

oblivion. Some translations appeared in 1990's in hindi but had many many

mistakes; The 1952 edition's translation caught fancy of every one who laid his

eyes on it and it further let to ignorance about other 4 editions.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Kulbir jee,

> > > >

> > > > I am a new member here and although familiar with jyotish for a while

now, came to learn about 'lal kitab' only a few years ago and it sounds like a

fascinating blend of jyotish and tantra. I think a scanned copy exists on

Lulu.com uploaded by J. Dhindsa jee. Sorry, I do not have a specific URL. And I

am not sure which EDITION this one was. Was the 1940 edition the original one? I

hope I am not bothering you and wasting your time with my naive questions.

Perhaps I should google -- one of these days!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ms. Neelam ji; Since it comes from 1940 edition; not many

practitioners / professionals know about it; they generally consult 52, 42 and

41 editions; 1939 and 1940 editions have not received that much interest and

henceforth importance. I am just a novice in this field so i have no data to

support; my knowledge is only of academic interest.

> > > > > Whenever i come across a practical application; i will surely share it

with you.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > >

> > > > > , neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for sharing the dictums of Lal Kitab. It would be

interesting to

> > > > > > have some examples to show the application/working to make it more

> > > > > > understandable and meaningful.

> > > > > > Would be grateful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2009/12/14 kulbir <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ms. Neelam ji; lalkitab says 1)- When Sun or Jupiter are in house

no. 5, if

> > > > > > > then enemy planets of Sun or Jupiter occupy the throne i.e house

no. 1, then

> > > > > > > GENERALLY the child in the womb of mother will be a girl

(mercury); There

> > > > > > > will be health related complications which will end with the birth

of such

> > > > > > > girl child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However if the child in the womb of mother is a male then the

enemy planets

> > > > > > > in house no 1. will consider it as Sun and will treat it as such;

the life

> > > > > > > or death of such male child will de determined by the degree of

conflict

> > > > > > > with such enemy planet/s in house no.1.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2)- When Sun or Jupiter are in house no. 1 if then enemy planets

of Sun or

> > > > > > > Jupiter occupy the house no. 5.; then GENERALLY the child in the

womb of

> > > > > > > mother will be a girl; There will be health related complications

which will

> > > > > > > end with the death of such girl child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is from page 197-198 of Lalkitab Armaan 1940 edition;

> > > > > > > i will try to write a note about progeny qua Jupiter in house

no.5; there

> > > > > > > are some really interesting observations in other editions;

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This i quoted because of reference of girl child and Jupiter 5

mention.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //guru in fifth causes daughters to be born in most of the

cases.//

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is it just a hearsay or your observation? Some astrologers have

been

> > > > > > > > propagating baseless myths like Karako Bhav Nashaye and Bhava

Hani Karo

> > > > > > > > Jeeva, etc. Several researches done at BVB have proved their

fallacy

> > > > > > > beyond

> > > > > > > > any doubt.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2009/12/14 Anita R <ash.rsh55@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Mehta,

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification. Especially the second part.As

far as I

> > > > > > > heard

> > > > > > > > > more than problems arising as far begetting children , guru in

fifth

> > > > > > > causes

> > > > > > > > > daughters to be born in most of the cases.

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Anita

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 14/12/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@>* wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > To:

<%40.\

com>

> > > > > > > > > Monday, 14 December, 2009, 8:38 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > First born begetting will be problemetic. The person/native

will be

> > > > > > > under

> > > > > > > > > Jupiterian influence first. Child next.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 14/12/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 >* wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55 >

> > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > Monday, 14 December, 2009, 1:47 PM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Deepenji,

> > > > > > > > > Just a thought. If Ju as the 12th lord signifying all that you

said

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > and as 9th lord of the natural zodiac signifying guru,dharma

etcc, is

> > > > > > > > > situated in 5th house, another dharma house signifying

children, would

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > make the person religious / spiritual or will it make the

first born

> > > > > > > > > religious / spiritual? Some how, I think it will make both the

the

> > > > > > > parent

> > > > > > > > > and the child religious and spiritual. What do you say?

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Anita

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 13/12/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@

>* wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >

> > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 7:14 PM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > manoj ji

> > > > > > > > > pisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of

ultimate

> > > > > > > > > knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as

compared to

> > > > > > > dhanus

> > > > > > > > > rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work

,looking after

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also

the

> > > > > > > > > administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the

ownership

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > pisces that is moksha sthana ....

> > > > > > > > > the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th

house venus

> > > > > > > is in

> > > > > > > > > Abhishek Bacchans chart ...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@

>*

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

> > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is

not a

> > > > > > > totally

> > > > > > > > > Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of

Jupiter and

> > > > > > > THAT

> > > > > > > > > is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have

seen many

> > > > > > > > > charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV

have deviant

> > > > > > > > > sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > -Manoj

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > ** Vidya <vidyakmr >

> > > > > > > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM

> > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Deep Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so

beautiful

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > way you put it. Thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen

thakkar

> > > > > > > > > <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Venus is the love god and is always interested inÃ‚ Ã‚

uniting 2 souls

> > > > > > > > > that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces

,where

> > > > > > > pisces

> > > > > > > > > is deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also

2 fishes

> > > > > > > > > signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls

can only

> > > > > > > > > occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious

which are

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility

in virgo

> > > > > > > bcoz

> > > > > > > > > it is an upachay sthanaÃ‚ and mecury as an immature student is

always

> > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > > for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while

jupiter

> > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > > one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has

to not

> > > > > > > roam

> > > > > > > > > around to find true knowledge..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar

and may

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > Rehmat be upon us for always..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and

Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs!

Jupiter takes

> > > > > > > > > fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and

air!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and

there's a

> > > > > > > Piscean

> > > > > > > > > Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into

challenging

> > > > > > > > > situations!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about

the

> > > > > > > general

> > > > > > > > > considerations.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam

gupta

> > > > > > > > > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari).

Being both

> > > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > benefics do they club together for a cause?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each

other. No

> > > > > > > > > planet is

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > inimical to GURU.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their

children who

> > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > sent

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely

> > > > > > > wrong!

> > > > > > > > > What do I

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > know? ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<ancient_

> > > > > > > indian_

> > > > > > > > > astrology%40gr oups. com>,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil

asuras.

> > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each

other ? If so

> > > > > > > > > then why

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ?

> > > > > > > Combination

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when

> > > > > > > unafflcited,

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life

happiness

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in

enemy camps

> > > > > > > ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have

darshan

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

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