Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Dear Iqbal ji I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got attached to the coin. The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with silver. God bless you, Bhooshan Priya , I <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Respected Members, > � > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > � > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > � > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of gold or other materials? > � > Best Regards, > Iqbal > � > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Iqbal ji, This copper coin should be tied with a knot to the thread that passes through it . If simply a thread is passed through without knot then the movement of coin is not restricted. Regards . Kulbir. On 10/2/09, I <punjabilovebug wrote: > Respected Members, > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin > in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, > through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and > affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki > string can pass through the hook? > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of > gold or other materials? > > Best Regards, > Iqbal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji, A very important point. Yes the coin should be tied to the thread so that it doesn't move around. God bless you Bhooshan Priya , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Iqbal ji, > > This copper coin should be tied with a knot to the thread > that passes through it . If simply a thread is passed through without > knot then the movement of coin is not restricted. > > Regards . > > Kulbir. > > > > > > On 10/2/09, I <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Respected Members, > > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin > > in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, > > through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and > > affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki > > string can pass through the hook? > > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of > > gold or other materials? > > > > Best Regards, > > Iqbal > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 dear bhooshan ji no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th house(sun-copper) hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread should pass through it then it should be worn. regards, , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " < wrote: > > Dear Iqbal ji > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got attached to the coin. > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with silver. > > God bless you, > > Bhooshan Priya > > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > > > > Respected Members, > > � > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > > � > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > > � > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of gold or other materials? > > � > > Best Regards, > > Iqbal > > � > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Respected Leekha ji, It is a pleasure to hear from you. Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal used for it is lead [ranga]. But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be harmful. As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to get in and out. The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. With regards and respect Varun Trivedi , " sleekhas " <sleekhas wrote: > > dear bhooshan ji > > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. > > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th house(sun-copper) > > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread should pass through it then it should be worn. > > regards, > > > > > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " <@> wrote: > > > > Dear Iqbal ji > > > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got attached to the coin. > > > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with silver. > > > > God bless you, > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > � > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > > > � > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > > > � > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of gold or other materials? > > > � > > > Best Regards, > > > Iqbal > > > � > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 dear varun ji, Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka) in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made without tanka, thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka bartan) bhed paida karega..... here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially breathing problems. regards, , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Leekha ji, > > It is a pleasure to hear from you. > > Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal used for it is lead [ranga]. > > But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be harmful. > > As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to get in and out. > > The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. > > With regards and respect > > Varun Trivedi > > , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote: > > > > dear bhooshan ji > > > > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. > > > > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th house(sun-copper) > > > > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread should pass through it then it should be worn. > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " <@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Iqbal ji > > > > > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got attached to the coin. > > > > > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with silver. > > > > > > God bless you, > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > � > > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > > > > � > > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > > > > � > > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of gold or other materials? > > > > � > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Iqbal > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Respected Leekha ji, Yes sir, what you have said is some thing worth giving a thought to. With great respect and regards, Varun Trivedi , " sleekhas " <sleekhas wrote: > > dear varun ji, > > Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, > > if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka) in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) > > in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made without tanka, > > thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) > > drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka bartan) bhed paida karega..... > > here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter > > because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially breathing problems. > > regards, > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Leekha ji, > > > > It is a pleasure to hear from you. > > > > Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal used for it is lead [ranga]. > > > > But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be harmful. > > > > As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to get in and out. > > > > The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. > > > > With regards and respect > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote: > > > > > > dear bhooshan ji > > > > > > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. > > > > > > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th house(sun-copper) > > > > > > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread should pass through it then it should be worn. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Iqbal ji > > > > > > > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got attached to the coin. > > > > > > > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with silver. > > > > > > > > God bless you, > > > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > � > > > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial results. > > > > > � > > > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > > > > > � > > > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can it be of gold or other materials? > > > > > � > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > Iqbal > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Dear Leekha ji, The example of gold mixed copper bangles is totally out of context as it has no mention of tanka. Firstly it is case senstive observation where Venus is placed in between Sun and Juiter in 6th house. Further placement of mars and mercury is in 8th house. Next box is not of brass but item of saturn. So it cannot be termed as general principle. Every gold ornament has copper mixed in it to give it proper shape. Even die cast bangles have copper in it. The use of copper should be mimimal in natives having such kundalis. Further hint is given as to how to keep them. Relating it with tanka is not justified at all. Kindly correct me if i am wrong. Regards. Kulbir. On 10/4/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > dear varun ji, > > Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, > > if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka) > in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) > > in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made > without tanka, > > thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh > out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli > for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) > > drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa > (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka > bartan) bhed paida karega..... > > here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass > through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter > > because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially > breathing problems. > > regards, > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd > wrote: >> >> Respected Leekha ji, >> >> It is a pleasure to hear from you. >> >> Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal >> used for it is lead [ranga]. >> >> But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be >> harmful. >> >> As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable >> because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to >> get in and out. >> >> The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that >> case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the >> poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. >> >> With regards and respect >> >> Varun Trivedi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote: >> > >> > dear bhooshan ji >> > >> > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. >> > >> > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th >> > house(sun-copper) >> > >> > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will >> > also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread >> > should pass through it then it should be worn. >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " >> > <@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear Iqbal ji >> > > >> > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got >> > > attached to the coin. >> > > >> > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable >> > > that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with >> > > silver. >> > > >> > > God bless you, >> > > >> > > Bhooshan Priya >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Respected Members, >> > > > � >> > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a >> > > > copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial >> > > > results. >> > > > � >> > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin >> > > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in >> > > > it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take >> > > > the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as >> > > > it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? >> > > > � >> > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can >> > > > it be of gold or other materials? >> > > > � >> > > > Best Regards, >> > > > Iqbal >> > > > � >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Dear Leekha ji, Copper coin is reccomended around neck for improving financial condition, nothing to do with health problems. mandi halat no. 3. first of all mercury in should be checked whether it is malefic or not by conditions mentioned in head note. Then mercury's individual nature has to be seen. Then comes the part of devising the upaya. Coming to the basic point the remedy under consideration is for financial health and not personal health of native. Regards. Kulbir On 10/4/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > dear varun ji, > > Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, > > if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka) > in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) > > in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made > without tanka, > > thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh > out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli > for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) > > drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa > (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka > bartan) bhed paida karega..... > > here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass > through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter > > because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially > breathing problems. > > regards, > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd > wrote: >> >> Respected Leekha ji, >> >> It is a pleasure to hear from you. >> >> Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal >> used for it is lead [ranga]. >> >> But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be >> harmful. >> >> As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable >> because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to >> get in and out. >> >> The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that >> case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the >> poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. >> >> With regards and respect >> >> Varun Trivedi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote: >> > >> > dear bhooshan ji >> > >> > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. >> > >> > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th >> > house(sun-copper) >> > >> > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will >> > also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread >> > should pass through it then it should be worn. >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " >> > <@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear Iqbal ji >> > > >> > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got >> > > attached to the coin. >> > > >> > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable >> > > that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with >> > > silver. >> > > >> > > God bless you, >> > > >> > > Bhooshan Priya >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Respected Members, >> > > > � >> > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a >> > > > copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial >> > > > results. >> > > > � >> > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin >> > > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in >> > > > it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take >> > > > the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as >> > > > it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? >> > > > � >> > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can >> > > > it be of gold or other materials? >> > > > � >> > > > Best Regards, >> > > > Iqbal >> > > > � >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Thanks Kulbir Paji, Leekha Ji and Varun Bhai. This has been helpful - I will secure a copper coin, and use the khaki thread as denoted. Best Regards, Iqbal--- On Sat, 10/3/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: kulbir bance <kulbirbanceLK discussion group Re: Copper Coin - Mercury 5th House Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 10:30 PM Dear Leekha ji, Copper coin is reccomended around neck for improvingfinancial condition, nothing to do with health problems. mandi halatno. 3. first of all mercury in should be checked whether it is maleficor not by conditions mentioned in head note. Then mercury's individualnature has to be seen. Then comes the part of devising the upaya.Coming to the basic point the remedy under consideration is forfinancial health and not personal health of native. Regards. KulbirOn 10/4/09, sleekhas <sleekhas > wrote:> dear varun ji,>> Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal,>> if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka)> in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha)>> in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made> without tanka,>> thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh> out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli> for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc)>> drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa> (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka> bartan) bhed paida karega.....>> here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass> through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter>> because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially> breathing problems.>> regards,>>>>>> , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ ...>> wrote:>>>> Respected Leekha ji,>>>> It is a pleasure to hear from you.>>>> Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal>> used for it is lead [ranga].>>>> But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be>> harmful.>>>> As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable>> because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to>> get in and out.>>>> The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that>> case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the>> poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different.>>>> With regards and respect>>>> Varun Trivedi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> , "sleekhas" <sleekhas@> wrote:>> >>> > dear bhooshan ji>> >>> > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh.>> >>> > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th>> > house(sun-copper)>> >>> > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will>> > also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread>> > should pass through it then it should be worn.>> >>> > regards,>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > , "Pandit Bhooshan Priya">> > <@ > wrote:>> > >>> > > Dear Iqbal ji>> > >>> > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got>> > > attached to the coin.>> > >>> > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable>> > > that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with>> > > silver.>> > >>> > > God bless you,>> > >>> > > Bhooshan Priya>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > , I <punjabilovebug@ > wrote:>> > > >>> > > > Respected Members,>> > > > �>> > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a>> > > > copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial>> > > > results.>> > > > �>> > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin>> > > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in>> > > > it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take>> > > > the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as>> > > > it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook?>> > > > �>> > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can>> > > > it be of gold or other materials?>> > > > �>> > > > Best Regards,>> > > > Iqbal>> > > > �>> > > >>> > >>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 dear kuldeep ji the concept is like this, tanka (means an joiting agent) every metal has its own strenth and gets automatically join with its own properties, whenever we have to give a required shape we have to add something to it which is called or treated as tanka. a) gold ornaments are made by mixing two things brass and copper. brass preferred in north and copper in south. (this i am talking about traditional karigiri now a days copper is being preferred every where. why so let me corelate this with example of namak and meetha, (book says if ur ones saturn is strong then the person will like eating sweet and if mars is stron then he will like to have more salt. the body will always try to full fill the shortfall which it has. here in north where sun is useally powerful in ladies they take help of brass (brihsapati) and in south where brihsapati is useally powerful they take of help of sun (copper). if u see the basic of LK it says simplification of concept. on other side the tanks also mean stopping of some thing from spliting like putting tanks on tin box filled with water in it this is through some other concept regards, , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Dear Leekha ji, > > The example of gold mixed copper bangles is totally > out of context as it has no mention of tanka. Firstly it is case > senstive observation where Venus is placed in between Sun and Juiter > in 6th house. Further placement of mars and mercury is in 8th house. > Next box is not of brass but item of saturn. So it cannot be termed as > general principle. Every gold ornament has copper mixed in it to give > it proper shape. Even die cast bangles have copper in it. The use of > copper should be mimimal in natives having such kundalis. Further hint > is given as to how to keep them. Relating it with tanka is not > justified at all. Kindly correct me if i am wrong. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > f> > > On 10/4/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > > dear varun ji, > > > > Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, > > > > if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka) > > in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) > > > > in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made > > without tanka, > > > > thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh > > out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli > > for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) > > > > drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa > > (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka > > bartan) bhed paida karega..... > > > > here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass > > through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter > > > > because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially > > breathing problems. > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Respected Leekha ji, > >> > >> It is a pleasure to hear from you. > >> > >> Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal > >> used for it is lead [ranga]. > >> > >> But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be > >> harmful. > >> > >> As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable > >> because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to > >> get in and out. > >> > >> The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that > >> case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the > >> poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. > >> > >> With regards and respect > >> > >> Varun Trivedi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote: > >> > > >> > dear bhooshan ji > >> > > >> > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. > >> > > >> > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th > >> > house(sun-copper) > >> > > >> > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will > >> > also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread > >> > should pass through it then it should be worn. > >> > > >> > regards, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " > >> > <@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Iqbal ji > >> > > > >> > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got > >> > > attached to the coin. > >> > > > >> > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable > >> > > that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with > >> > > silver. > >> > > > >> > > God bless you, > >> > > > >> > > Bhooshan Priya > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Respected Members, > >> > > > � > >> > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a > >> > > > copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial > >> > > > results. > >> > > > � > >> > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin > >> > > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in > >> > > > it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take > >> > > > the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as > >> > > > it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > >> > > > � > >> > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can > >> > > > it be of gold or other materials? > >> > > > � > >> > > > Best Regards, > >> > > > Iqbal > >> > > > � > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 kulbir ji yehi to bhed hai kitab ka, isme bey (urdu wala) likha hai to u bey ko check keejiyey fhey se, seen se sheen se aur us sey miltey jultey sabhi herfo sey, mercury 5th house concept to agar check karey to following combinations bantey hai mercury 5 th house mercury + sun 5th house Mercury+sun+jupiter 5th house and after that make cobination of maunai greh baraber taquat walon ko kaat do jo bach uska phal kayam hoga regards, , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Dear Leekha ji, > > > Copper coin is reccomended around neck for improving > financial condition, nothing to do with health problems. mandi halat > no. 3. first of all mercury in should be checked whether it is malefic > or not by conditions mentioned in head note. Then mercury's individual > nature has to be seen. Then comes the part of devising the upaya. > Coming to the basic point the remedy under consideration is for > financial health and not personal health of native. > > Regards. > > Kulbir > > > > On 10/4/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > > dear varun ji, > > > > Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, > > > > if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper (tanka) > > in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) > > > > in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be made > > without tanka, > > > > thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take budh > > out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki goli > > for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) > > > > drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka chalawa > > (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha ka > > bartan) bhed paida karega..... > > > > here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass > > through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter > > > > because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially > > breathing problems. > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Respected Leekha ji, > >> > >> It is a pleasure to hear from you. > >> > >> Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal > >> used for it is lead [ranga]. > >> > >> But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be > >> harmful. > >> > >> As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is advisable > >> because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury to > >> get in and out. > >> > >> The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that > >> case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out the > >> poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. > >> > >> With regards and respect > >> > >> Varun Trivedi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote: > >> > > >> > dear bhooshan ji > >> > > >> > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. > >> > > >> > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th > >> > house(sun-copper) > >> > > >> > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing will > >> > also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread > >> > should pass through it then it should be worn. > >> > > >> > regards, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " > >> > <@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Iqbal ji > >> > > > >> > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be got > >> > > attached to the coin. > >> > > > >> > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be advisable > >> > > that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it with > >> > > silver. > >> > > > >> > > God bless you, > >> > > > >> > > Bhooshan Priya > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > , I <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Respected Members, > >> > > > � > >> > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a > >> > > > copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial > >> > > > results. > >> > > > � > >> > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from coin > >> > > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole in > >> > > > it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one take > >> > > > the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains as > >> > > > it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? > >> > > > � > >> > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or can > >> > > > it be of gold or other materials? > >> > > > � > >> > > > Best Regards, > >> > > > Iqbal > >> > > > � > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dear Leekha ji, thanks for your inputs. Regards. Kulbir. On 10/8/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > dear kuldeep ji > > the concept is like this, > > tanka (means an joiting agent) every metal has its own strenth and gets > automatically join with its own properties, > > whenever we have to give a required shape we have to add something to it > which is called or treated as tanka. > > a) gold ornaments are made by mixing two things brass and copper. > > brass preferred in north and copper in south. (this i am talking about > traditional karigiri now a days copper is being preferred every where. > > why so let me corelate this with example of namak and meetha, (book says if > ur ones saturn is strong then the person will like eating sweet and if mars > is stron then he will like to have more salt. the body will always try to > full fill the shortfall which it has. > > here in north where sun is useally powerful in ladies they take help of > brass (brihsapati) and in south where brihsapati is useally powerful they > take of help of sun (copper). > > if u see the basic of LK it says simplification of concept. > > on other side the tanks also mean stopping of some thing from spliting > > like putting tanks on tin box filled with water in it > > this is through some other concept > > regards, > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance > wrote: >> >> Dear Leekha ji, >> >> The example of gold mixed copper bangles is totally >> out of context as it has no mention of tanka. Firstly it is case >> senstive observation where Venus is placed in between Sun and Juiter >> in 6th house. Further placement of mars and mercury is in 8th house. >> Next box is not of brass but item of saturn. So it cannot be termed as >> general principle. Every gold ornament has copper mixed in it to give >> it proper shape. Even die cast bangles have copper in it. The use of >> copper should be mimimal in natives having such kundalis. Further hint >> is given as to how to keep them. Relating it with tanka is not >> justified at all. Kindly correct me if i am wrong. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kulbir. >> > f> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/4/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: >> > dear varun ji, >> > >> > Tanka mean jointing it cannot be fixed with or related to any metal, >> > >> > if u see example in LK where pandit ji has referred mixing of copper >> > (tanka) >> > in gold chudiyan( chudiyon ne bolna hi tha) >> > >> > in ornaments tanka is not melafic, because the ornaments cannot not be >> > made >> > without tanka, >> > >> > thats why in LK dhalai (bina jod ya tankey) has been preferred to take >> > budh >> > out of every thing. (chandi ka dhalai wala kada for health+chandi ki >> > goli >> > for rahu+ steel ka bejod challa for budh etc etc) >> > >> > drilling (my thoughts) if u see the example where lk says budh ka >> > chalawa >> > (shishey ke bartan mein hawa) hawa dono taraf hogi paruntu budh (shisha >> > ka >> > bartan) bhed paida karega..... >> > >> > here if u see by drilling a hole in copper coin is allowing hawa to pass >> > through sun's aishaya as the house no 5th is of sun and jupiter >> > >> > because mercury in 5th if bad will give bad effect on health specially >> > breathing problems. >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Respected Leekha ji, >> >> >> >> It is a pleasure to hear from you. >> >> >> >> Tanka, in the general sense, is considered as malefic because the metal >> >> used for it is lead [ranga]. >> >> >> >> But the tanka of silver or copper done by a goldsmith should not be >> >> harmful. >> >> >> >> As for drilling a hole in the copper coin, I do not think it is >> >> advisable >> >> because the hole will provide free space [khali jagah] for the mercury >> >> to >> >> get in and out. >> >> >> >> The example of nose piercing that you have given is different; in that >> >> case the hole is pierced in the karak of mercury itself to drain out >> >> the >> >> poison of mercury. The purpose of piercing is entirely different. >> >> >> >> With regards and respect >> >> >> >> Varun Trivedi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > dear bhooshan ji >> >> > >> >> > no weld please as the weld (tanka) is referred as bad budh. >> >> > >> >> > Here we are trying to nullify bad effect of budh(golai) in 5th >> >> > house(sun-copper) >> >> > >> >> > hole should be made into copper coin (as making hole in any thing >> >> > will >> >> > also reduce effect of bad budh-like nak chedan) and the khakhi thread >> >> > should pass through it then it should be worn. >> >> > >> >> > regards, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya " >> >> > <@> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > Dear Iqbal ji >> >> > > >> >> > > I suggest a copper coin without a hole. In that case a hook can be >> >> > > got >> >> > > attached to the coin. >> >> > > >> >> > > The hook can be of gold, silver,copper or brass. It would be >> >> > > advisable >> >> > > that the hook is got attached by some goldsmith who would weld it >> >> > > with >> >> > > silver. >> >> > > >> >> > > God bless you, >> >> > > >> >> > > Bhooshan Priya >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > , I <punjabilovebug@> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Respected Members, >> >> > > > � >> >> > > > In LK, for Mercury in 5th house, it has been mentioned to use a >> >> > > > copper coin in a khaki string around the neck for beneficial >> >> > > > results. >> >> > > > � >> >> > > > Copper coins are quite rare, although they can be procured from >> >> > > > coin >> >> > > > collectors etc. My question is that should this coin have a hole >> >> > > > in >> >> > > > it, through which the khaki string should pass, or should one >> >> > > > take >> >> > > > the coin and affix a hook of some sort, so that the coin remains >> >> > > > as >> >> > > > it was, and the khaki string can pass through the hook? >> >> > > > � >> >> > > > If a hook is to be used, does it also need to be of copper, or >> >> > > > can >> >> > > > it be of gold or other materials? >> >> > > > � >> >> > > > Best Regards, >> >> > > > Iqbal >> >> > > > � >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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