Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Lal Kitabee Jee, Itna gussa karne kee zaroorat nahi, abb aap hee ek baat bataye ki jo aapne likha hai, agar vaisa teva aurat ka na hota, kisi mard ka hota to kya hota.Iss hisab se agar usko aurat hone ka fayda milta hai to iska matlab yehi hua na ki budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai,kyonki wahan par Budh mard ka lihaz na karta? Aap khul kar likhe ki Budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai(ya nahi).Isko swal ke badle swal mat samjhe, apne vichar spasht karein,ta ki discussion ko aage le jaya ja sake. Dhanyawad Sahit MAHAJAN , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Res Mahajan Ji > This is the problem that u do not read carefully my letter.I have > written- > " Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa > aur > Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar hogi jab tak Suraj > aur budh > ka taalluq na ho, > Here the point no. > 1.-- Horoscope of Female. > 2.-- Suraj Ka talluq > 3.-- There may be mere possibility of malefic > Mercury.(This point isnt independent from my 2 points.) > Now u can confirm from book also.Do not bcome rigid to words of lalkiab > ,DHOL KI POL KHOLO. Which kundali u have quoted from lalkitab, there u > forgot that Venus is also available there & due to that Pujya Pandit ji > suggested about NAAK CHHEDAN, this remedy is not suggested due to > placement of only budh.2ndly there is tradition in India to be pierced > nose specially of female.Bcoz of that reason also I wrote such line. > I have written above " SURAJ KA TALLUQ " .If u will read at page no 532 > at 1952 edition. there is written in an example - LEKIN AGAR SURAJ > BAITHA HO NO.4 MAIN to no.1 MAIN BAITHA HUA BUDH VAHI ASAR DEGAA JO > SURAJ NO. 1 KA MUKARRAR HAI. > If u find the co-relation of no.1 & 4 ,and analyze this type of > tevaa what u understand ? Not about predection ,only about co-relation > or TALLUQ of BUDH & SURAJ. > Please try to explain it.Bcoz view depends upon views as > threads.After this we can continue the topic fairly . > With Regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > V.Shukla > Mb.9812020001 > , " heartzthief54 " > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Varun Jee, > > > > Aap ka hukam sar mathe par. Mein iss ka agaz apni uss mail se karta > hoon > > ,jis mail se mein iss vishay ko chun saka. LAL KIABI jee ne jinki mere > > dil mein kafi izzat hai apni mail mein Aurat ko Budh se kuchh > gunjayash > > dee thee, tab vishay budh ka hee thaa, khana no 9. > > > > Mera apna khayal hai ki Budh sirf khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka kuchh > > lihaz karta hai ya fir uss se kum khana no 7 mein uska lihaz karta > hai. > > Khana no 9 ke liye Pujya Pandit jee ne jo kundli kee udaharan de rakhi > > hain, uss mein bhee unho ne rani ka nak chedan karwaya hai.Baki jab > sab > > ki mail aani shuru ho jayengi samay samay par apne vichar deta > rahoonga, > > agar mein galat rahoon to mein chahta hoon ki mujh ko sahi kiya jaye, > > agar mujh ko lagta hai ki koi galat hai to mein zaroor likhoga ta ki > > mujh ko pata chal sake ki mein galat hoon ya sahi. > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mahajan ji, > > > > > > Aap ne bahut sundar topic uthaya hai. Aap se mera anurodh hai ki aap > > hi is bahas ka aagaz karen. > > > > > > pahale aap hi likhen ki is vishaya par aap ki soch kya hai. > > > > > > Aadar sahit, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > BUDH khana 9 par jo lambi discussion chali ussi se ek aur vishay > > > > discussion ke liye mujhe mil gaya. Jiske liye mein apne Bhai sman > > Vipan > > > > Shukla Jee @ Lal Kitabee jee ka abhari hoon tatha yeh vishay unhi > ko > > > > samarpit karta hoon. > > > > > > > > Kripya iss vishay par apne vichar khul kar pragat karein ki budh > > kinn > > > > kinn halaaton mein aurat ka lihaz karta hai aur kyon karta hai, > > tatha > > > > kya aurat ko budh ka ilaz (upay) karna chahiye ya nahi ? > > > > > > > > Mein koi LAL KITAB ke school ka principal nahi hoon jo yeh swal > > puchh > > > > rahan hoon lekin iss se hum sab logo ko BUDH ke baare mein ek > nayee > > > > disha mil jayegi, mere gyan mein bhee badotari hogi.Asal mein mein > > bhee > > > > chahta hoon ki dekhe BUDH kitna khurafati hai. > > > > > > > > Apke jo bhee vichar ho spasht rakhe fir dekhe ki aapko kya prapat > > hota , > > > > BUDH apna kitna bhed kholta hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Res Mahajan Ji Im not angry.Agar mere shabdon se jaane anjaane main bura laga ho to muaafi chahtaa hun. Main bhi aapke khyal ko hee aage le ja rahaa hoon.Kyonki khana 12 ka budh jo kee neech bhi hai aur sabse adhik kharab bolaa gayaa hai ,aisa hone par bhi vah aurat ka lihaaz kartaa hai.To fir aur jagah vah us Female ka lihaaz kyon nahi kar saktaa.Jaroor kar saktaa hai.Khana 9 main kam se kam neech to nahi hai aur khana 12 aur 9 dono hee brihaspati ki malkiyat ke hain. Aurat ka lihaaz karne ke peechhey karan hai kisi bhi female ka kanyaa se aurat banne tak ka safar.Bus isi safar main to grihasthi ki chakki chali aur suraj bhi aa gaya.Main bina shak keh saktaa hun ki budh aurat ka lihaaz kar saktaa hai. Budh ki babat ,Aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa. Aur jo aapne likhaa hai ki khana 12 ka budh hee aurat ka lihaaz kar sakta hai. To aap usi chapter main dekhiye ki khana 12 ka budh bhi aurat ka lihaaz nahi kartaa agar mard ka bhi budh khana 12 main ho. Ab to aap mere sawal ka jawaab de saktey hain na. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V.Shukla Mb.9812020001 , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Lal Kitabee Jee, > > Itna gussa karne kee zaroorat nahi, abb aap hee ek baat bataye ki jo > aapne likha hai, agar vaisa teva aurat ka na hota, kisi mard ka hota to > kya hota.Iss hisab se agar usko aurat hone ka fayda milta hai to iska > matlab yehi hua na ki budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai,kyonki wahan par > Budh mard ka lihaz na karta? Aap khul kar likhe ki Budh aurat ka lihaz > karta hai(ya nahi).Isko swal ke badle swal mat samjhe, apne vichar > spasht karein,ta ki discussion ko aage le jaya ja sake. > > Dhanyawad Sahit > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > Res Mahajan Ji > > This is the problem that u do not read carefully my letter.I have > > written- > > " Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa use > milegaa > > aur > > Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar hogi jab tak > Suraj > > aur budh > > ka taalluq na ho, > > Here the point no. > > 1.-- Horoscope of Female. > > 2.-- Suraj Ka talluq > > 3.-- There may be mere possibility of malefic > > Mercury.(This point isnt independent from my 2 points.) > > Now u can confirm from book also.Do not bcome rigid to words of > lalkiab > > ,DHOL KI POL KHOLO. Which kundali u have quoted from lalkitab, there u > > forgot that Venus is also available there & due to that Pujya Pandit > ji > > suggested about NAAK CHHEDAN, this remedy is not suggested due to > > placement of only budh.2ndly there is tradition in India to be pierced > > nose specially of female.Bcoz of that reason also I wrote such line. > > I have written above " SURAJ KA TALLUQ " .If u will read at page no 532 > > at 1952 edition. there is written in an example - LEKIN AGAR SURAJ > > BAITHA HO NO.4 MAIN to no.1 MAIN BAITHA HUA BUDH VAHI ASAR DEGAA JO > > SURAJ NO. 1 KA MUKARRAR HAI. > > If u find the co-relation of no.1 & 4 ,and analyze this type of > > tevaa what u understand ? Not about predection ,only about co-relation > > or TALLUQ of BUDH & SURAJ. > > Please try to explain it.Bcoz view depends upon views as > > threads.After this we can continue the topic fairly . > > With Regards > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > V.Shukla > > Mb.9812020001 > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, > > > > > > Aap ka hukam sar mathe par. Mein iss ka agaz apni uss mail se karta > > hoon > > > ,jis mail se mein iss vishay ko chun saka. LAL KIABI jee ne jinki > mere > > > dil mein kafi izzat hai apni mail mein Aurat ko Budh se kuchh > > gunjayash > > > dee thee, tab vishay budh ka hee thaa, khana no 9. > > > > > > Mera apna khayal hai ki Budh sirf khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka > kuchh > > > lihaz karta hai ya fir uss se kum khana no 7 mein uska lihaz karta > > hai. > > > Khana no 9 ke liye Pujya Pandit jee ne jo kundli kee udaharan de > rakhi > > > hain, uss mein bhee unho ne rani ka nak chedan karwaya hai.Baki jab > > sab > > > ki mail aani shuru ho jayengi samay samay par apne vichar deta > > rahoonga, > > > agar mein galat rahoon to mein chahta hoon ki mujh ko sahi kiya > jaye, > > > agar mujh ko lagta hai ki koi galat hai to mein zaroor likhoga ta ki > > > mujh ko pata chal sake ki mein galat hoon ya sahi. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajan ji, > > > > > > > > Aap ne bahut sundar topic uthaya hai. Aap se mera anurodh hai ki > aap > > > hi is bahas ka aagaz karen. > > > > > > > > pahale aap hi likhen ki is vishaya par aap ki soch kya hai. > > > > > > > > Aadar sahit, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > BUDH khana 9 par jo lambi discussion chali ussi se ek aur vishay > > > > > discussion ke liye mujhe mil gaya. Jiske liye mein apne Bhai > sman > > > Vipan > > > > > Shukla Jee @ Lal Kitabee jee ka abhari hoon tatha yeh vishay > unhi > > ko > > > > > samarpit karta hoon. > > > > > > > > > > Kripya iss vishay par apne vichar khul kar pragat karein ki budh > > > kinn > > > > > kinn halaaton mein aurat ka lihaz karta hai aur kyon karta hai, > > > tatha > > > > > kya aurat ko budh ka ilaz (upay) karna chahiye ya nahi ? > > > > > > > > > > Mein koi LAL KITAB ke school ka principal nahi hoon jo yeh swal > > > puchh > > > > > rahan hoon lekin iss se hum sab logo ko BUDH ke baare mein ek > > nayee > > > > > disha mil jayegi, mere gyan mein bhee badotari hogi.Asal mein > mein > > > bhee > > > > > chahta hoon ki dekhe BUDH kitna khurafati hai. > > > > > > > > > > Apke jo bhee vichar ho spasht rakhe fir dekhe ki aapko kya > prapat > > > hota , > > > > > BUDH apna kitna bhed kholta hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Lal Kitabee Je, Budh aurat ka lihaz nahi karta, yeh to aap ne hee apni mail mein maan liya hai, yehi to mein kehna chahta hoon ki budh aurat ka lihaz bilkul nahi karta.kynoki meine apni mail mein bhee yehi likha hai budh sirf khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka kuchh lihaz karta hai ya uss se thoda kum khana no 7 mein hee lihaz karega. KYON ? Kyonki khana no 12 mein Shukar unch hota hai iss liye woh wahan uska lihaz karta hai. Khana no 7 bhee Shukar ka apna ghar hai .Budh aur Shukar ka aapas mein kya relation hai yeh to kisi ko samjhane ki zaroorat nahi. Aapne khud hee maan liya hai ki khana 12 mein bhee woh aurat ka lihaz nahi karega, jab uske pati ka bhee budh 12 mein ho. Agar woh yahan bhee aurat ka lihaz karta to usko kuchh na kuchh gunzayaish to deta lekin nahi dee. Sirf ussi halat mein gunzayais dega jab sirf aurat ke khana no 12 mein hee Budh ho. Iska matlab yehi hua na ki budh sirf khana no 12-7 ke ilava kahin bhee aurat ka lihaz nahi karega. Aurat ke pati ko aap kya mante hain ? mein nahi janta iss baare mein kuchh. woh (budh)kyon nahi fir dono ka lihaz karta .Agar aap Pati ko Shukar mante hain to mein kuchh nahi kar (keh) sakta. Aap khud hee dhayan se soche ki Budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai ya nahi . Fir iss par likhe, agar aap ya koi aur yeh sabit kar de ki Budh ne kisi ko aurat hone ka fayda diya hai (khana 12 aur 7 chhodh kar), tabhi baat banegi. Mein bhee to yehi janana chahta hoon ki kis ghar mein Budh ne aurat aur mard ko alag alag fal diya hai.Graho ki ek hee tarah ki position rahegi, dushaman aur dost ek hee postion mein ho tab bhee kya aurat aur mard ko alag fal diya Budh ne ? Agar koi aur bhee jawab janta ho to batane ki chesta karein ta ki sab ke gyan mein badotari ho sake kahin aisa na ho mein kuaen (well) ka maindak hee rahoon.Mera sabko khula nimantran hai ki woh bhee iss mein hissa lein aur apne apne vichar spasht karein ta ki BUDH ka kuchh to bhed khul sake. Aadar Sahit MAHAJAN , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Res Mahajan Ji > Im not angry.Agar mere shabdon se jaane anjaane main bura laga ho to muaafi chahtaa hun. Main bhi aapke khyal ko hee aage le ja rahaa hoon.Kyonki khana 12 ka budh jo kee neech bhi hai aur sabse adhik kharab bolaa gayaa hai ,aisa hone par bhi vah aurat ka lihaaz kartaa hai.To fir aur jagah vah us Female ka lihaaz kyon nahi kar saktaa.Jaroor kar saktaa hai.Khana 9 main kam se kam neech to nahi hai aur khana 12 aur 9 dono hee brihaspati ki malkiyat ke hain. > Aurat ka lihaaz karne ke peechhey karan hai kisi bhi female ka kanyaa se aurat banne tak ka safar.Bus isi safar main to grihasthi ki chakki chali aur suraj bhi aa gaya.Main bina shak keh saktaa hun ki budh aurat ka lihaaz kar saktaa hai. > Budh ki babat ,Aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa. > Aur jo aapne likhaa hai ki khana 12 ka budh hee aurat ka lihaaz kar sakta hai. To aap usi chapter main dekhiye ki khana 12 ka budh bhi aurat ka lihaaz nahi kartaa agar mard ka bhi budh khana 12 main ho. > Ab to aap mere sawal ka jawaab de saktey hain na. > With Regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > V.Shukla > Mb.9812020001 > > , " heartzthief54 " heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > Lal Kitabee Jee, > > > > Itna gussa karne kee zaroorat nahi, abb aap hee ek baat bataye ki jo > > aapne likha hai, agar vaisa teva aurat ka na hota, kisi mard ka hota to > > kya hota.Iss hisab se agar usko aurat hone ka fayda milta hai to iska > > matlab yehi hua na ki budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai,kyonki wahan par > > Budh mard ka lihaz na karta? Aap khul kar likhe ki Budh aurat ka lihaz > > karta hai(ya nahi).Isko swal ke badle swal mat samjhe, apne vichar > > spasht karein,ta ki discussion ko aage le jaya ja sake. > > > > Dhanyawad Sahit > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > > > Res Mahajan Ji > > > This is the problem that u do not read carefully my letter.I have > > > written- > > > " Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa use > > milegaa > > > aur > > > Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar hogi jab tak > > Suraj > > > aur budh > > > ka taalluq na ho, > > > Here the point no. > > > 1.-- Horoscope of Female. > > > 2.-- Suraj Ka talluq > > > 3.-- There may be mere possibility of malefic > > > Mercury.(This point isnt independent from my 2 points.) > > > Now u can confirm from book also.Do not bcome rigid to words of > > lalkiab > > > ,DHOL KI POL KHOLO. Which kundali u have quoted from lalkitab, there u > > > forgot that Venus is also available there & due to that Pujya Pandit > > ji > > > suggested about NAAK CHHEDAN, this remedy is not suggested due to > > > placement of only budh.2ndly there is tradition in India to be pierced > > > nose specially of female.Bcoz of that reason also I wrote such line. > > > I have written above " SURAJ KA TALLUQ " .If u will read at page no 532 > > > at 1952 edition. there is written in an example - LEKIN AGAR SURAJ > > > BAITHA HO NO.4 MAIN to no.1 MAIN BAITHA HUA BUDH VAHI ASAR DEGAA JO > > > SURAJ NO. 1 KA MUKARRAR HAI. > > > If u find the co-relation of no.1 & 4 ,and analyze this type of > > > tevaa what u understand ? Not about predection ,only about co-relation > > > or TALLUQ of BUDH & SURAJ. > > > Please try to explain it.Bcoz view depends upon views as > > > threads.After this we can continue the topic fairly . > > > With Regards > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > V.Shukla > > > Mb.9812020001 > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, > > > > > > > > Aap ka hukam sar mathe par. Mein iss ka agaz apni uss mail se karta > > > hoon > > > > ,jis mail se mein iss vishay ko chun saka. LAL KIABI jee ne jinki > > mere > > > > dil mein kafi izzat hai apni mail mein Aurat ko Budh se kuchh > > > gunjayash > > > > dee thee, tab vishay budh ka hee thaa, khana no 9. > > > > > > > > Mera apna khayal hai ki Budh sirf khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka > > kuchh > > > > lihaz karta hai ya fir uss se kum khana no 7 mein uska lihaz karta > > > hai. > > > > Khana no 9 ke liye Pujya Pandit jee ne jo kundli kee udaharan de > > rakhi > > > > hain, uss mein bhee unho ne rani ka nak chedan karwaya hai.Baki jab > > > sab > > > > ki mail aani shuru ho jayengi samay samay par apne vichar deta > > > rahoonga, > > > > agar mein galat rahoon to mein chahta hoon ki mujh ko sahi kiya > > jaye, > > > > agar mujh ko lagta hai ki koi galat hai to mein zaroor likhoga ta ki > > > > mujh ko pata chal sake ki mein galat hoon ya sahi. > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajan ji, > > > > > > > > > > Aap ne bahut sundar topic uthaya hai. Aap se mera anurodh hai ki > > aap > > > > hi is bahas ka aagaz karen. > > > > > > > > > > pahale aap hi likhen ki is vishaya par aap ki soch kya hai. > > > > > > > > > > Aadar sahit, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > BUDH khana 9 par jo lambi discussion chali ussi se ek aur vishay > > > > > > discussion ke liye mujhe mil gaya. Jiske liye mein apne Bhai > > sman > > > > Vipan > > > > > > Shukla Jee @ Lal Kitabee jee ka abhari hoon tatha yeh vishay > > unhi > > > ko > > > > > > samarpit karta hoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kripya iss vishay par apne vichar khul kar pragat karein ki budh > > > > kinn > > > > > > kinn halaaton mein aurat ka lihaz karta hai aur kyon karta hai, > > > > tatha > > > > > > kya aurat ko budh ka ilaz (upay) karna chahiye ya nahi ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mein koi LAL KITAB ke school ka principal nahi hoon jo yeh swal > > > > puchh > > > > > > rahan hoon lekin iss se hum sab logo ko BUDH ke baare mein ek > > > nayee > > > > > > disha mil jayegi, mere gyan mein bhee badotari hogi.Asal mein > > mein > > > > bhee > > > > > > chahta hoon ki dekhe BUDH kitna khurafati hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > Apke jo bhee vichar ho spasht rakhe fir dekhe ki aapko kya > > prapat > > > > hota , > > > > > > BUDH apna kitna bhed kholta hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Res Mahajan Ji Khana 12 main shukkar to oonch bol diyaa aapne .Us shukkar ko pradhaan banaa rahey hain jo ki tevey ke mutabik vahaan hoga ya nahi,Yah bad ki baat hai. Shukkar oonch hotaa hai theek hai,lekin budh to neech hee hotaa hai jo ki khana 12 main baithaa hee hogaa aur khana 12 guru ka pakka ghar bhi hai theek khana 9 ki tarah.Rahee baat mere manney ki- to meri us line ko shayad aap fir bhool gaye - Budh ki babat ,Aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa. Chalo khair aapki baat hee sahee ki jab shukkar khana 12 main oonch hone ke karan budh aurat ke tevey main uska lihaz karta hai to ,aurat ke roop main shukkar ki ashia hone ke karan bhi to lihaaz karegaa. bus yahi to baat hai jo main bol rahaa hoon. Kyonki aurat ka ashia ke roop main oonch ya neech ka sawaal hee nahi paida hotaa. Aurat pehley kanyaa hoti hai jo ki budh kee chez hai,fir kaamdev kee taqat aur mangal ki barkat se use ketu ka sukh naseeb hotaa hai isiliye oonch ketu bhee budh 12 kee zahar dho daltaa. hai.Iske alawa aurat ka naak chhedan amooman hua hee kartaa hai. Is poore discussion main bus yahi 2 baatain hain jinki vajah se mainey aurat ke lihaaz karne kee baat likhi 1. Aurat shukkar kee ashia hai jo ki kabhi budh ka roop bhi thee kanyaa ke roop main 2.Amooman aurat ka Naak chhedan hua hee kartaa hai. Pata nahi shayd mere samjhaane main hee koyee kami hai.Ovarall yah spasht hai ki aurat ke liye budh ka rukh naram hee hotaa hai. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V.Shukla Mb.9812020001 , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Lal Kitabee Je, > > Budh aurat ka lihaz nahi karta, yeh to aap ne hee apni mail mein maan > liya hai, yehi to mein kehna chahta hoon ki budh aurat ka lihaz bilkul > nahi karta.kynoki meine apni mail mein bhee yehi likha hai budh sirf > khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka kuchh lihaz karta hai ya uss se thoda kum > khana no 7 mein hee lihaz karega. > > KYON ? > > Kyonki khana no 12 mein Shukar unch hota hai iss liye woh wahan uska > lihaz karta hai. Khana no 7 bhee Shukar ka apna ghar hai .Budh aur > Shukar ka aapas mein kya relation hai yeh to kisi ko samjhane ki > zaroorat nahi. > > Aapne khud hee maan liya hai ki khana 12 mein bhee woh aurat ka lihaz > nahi karega, jab uske pati ka bhee budh 12 mein ho. Agar woh yahan bhee > aurat ka lihaz karta to usko kuchh na kuchh gunzayaish to deta lekin > nahi dee. Sirf ussi halat mein gunzayais dega jab sirf aurat ke khana no > 12 mein hee Budh ho. Iska matlab yehi hua na ki budh sirf khana no 12-7 > ke ilava kahin bhee aurat ka lihaz nahi karega. > > Aurat ke pati ko aap kya mante hain ? mein nahi janta iss baare mein > kuchh. woh (budh)kyon nahi fir dono ka lihaz karta .Agar aap Pati ko > Shukar mante hain to mein kuchh nahi kar (keh) sakta. Aap khud hee > dhayan se soche ki Budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai ya nahi . Fir iss par > likhe, agar aap ya koi aur yeh sabit kar de ki Budh ne kisi ko aurat > hone ka fayda diya hai (khana 12 aur 7 chhodh kar), tabhi baat banegi. > Mein bhee to yehi janana chahta hoon ki kis ghar mein Budh ne aurat aur > mard ko alag alag fal diya hai.Graho ki ek hee tarah ki position rahegi, > dushaman aur dost ek hee postion mein ho tab bhee kya aurat aur mard ko > alag fal diya Budh ne ? > > Agar koi aur bhee jawab janta ho to batane ki chesta karein ta ki sab ke > gyan mein badotari ho sake kahin aisa na ho mein kuaen (well) ka maindak > hee rahoon.Mera sabko khula nimantran hai ki woh bhee iss mein hissa > lein aur apne apne vichar spasht karein ta ki BUDH ka kuchh to bhed > khul sake. > > Aadar Sahit > > MAHAJAN > , " lalkitabee " > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > Res Mahajan Ji > > Im not angry.Agar mere shabdon se jaane anjaane main bura laga ho to > muaafi chahtaa hun. Main bhi aapke khyal ko hee aage le ja rahaa > hoon.Kyonki khana 12 ka budh jo kee neech bhi hai aur sabse adhik kharab > bolaa gayaa hai ,aisa hone par bhi vah aurat ka lihaaz kartaa hai.To fir > aur jagah vah us Female ka lihaaz kyon nahi kar saktaa.Jaroor kar saktaa > hai.Khana 9 main kam se kam neech to nahi hai aur khana 12 aur 9 dono > hee brihaspati ki malkiyat ke hain. > > Aurat ka lihaaz karne ke peechhey karan hai kisi bhi female ka kanyaa > se aurat banne tak ka safar.Bus isi safar main to grihasthi ki chakki > chali aur suraj bhi aa gaya.Main bina shak keh saktaa hun ki budh aurat > ka lihaaz kar saktaa hai. > > Budh ki babat ,Aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa. > > Aur jo aapne likhaa hai ki khana 12 ka budh hee aurat ka lihaaz kar > sakta hai. To aap usi chapter main dekhiye ki khana 12 ka budh bhi aurat > ka lihaaz nahi kartaa agar mard ka bhi budh khana 12 main ho. > > Ab to aap mere sawal ka jawaab de saktey hain na. > > With Regards > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > V.Shukla > > Mb.9812020001 > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Lal Kitabee Jee, > > > > > > Itna gussa karne kee zaroorat nahi, abb aap hee ek baat bataye ki jo > > > aapne likha hai, agar vaisa teva aurat ka na hota, kisi mard ka hota > to > > > kya hota.Iss hisab se agar usko aurat hone ka fayda milta hai to > iska > > > matlab yehi hua na ki budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai,kyonki wahan par > > > Budh mard ka lihaz na karta? Aap khul kar likhe ki Budh aurat ka > lihaz > > > karta hai(ya nahi).Isko swal ke badle swal mat samjhe, apne vichar > > > spasht karein,ta ki discussion ko aage le jaya ja sake. > > > > > > Dhanyawad Sahit > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Res Mahajan Ji > > > > This is the problem that u do not read carefully my letter.I have > > > > written- > > > > " Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa use > > > milegaa > > > > aur > > > > Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar hogi jab tak > > > Suraj > > > > aur budh > > > > ka taalluq na ho, > > > > Here the point no. > > > > 1.-- Horoscope of Female. > > > > 2.-- Suraj Ka talluq > > > > 3.-- There may be mere possibility of malefic > > > > Mercury.(This point isnt independent from my 2 points.) > > > > Now u can confirm from book also.Do not bcome rigid to words of > > > lalkiab > > > > ,DHOL KI POL KHOLO. Which kundali u have quoted from lalkitab, > there u > > > > forgot that Venus is also available there & due to that Pujya > Pandit > > > ji > > > > suggested about NAAK CHHEDAN, this remedy is not suggested due to > > > > placement of only budh.2ndly there is tradition in India to be > pierced > > > > nose specially of female.Bcoz of that reason also I wrote such > line. > > > > I have written above " SURAJ KA TALLUQ " .If u will read at page no > 532 > > > > at 1952 edition. there is written in an example - LEKIN AGAR SURAJ > > > > BAITHA HO NO.4 MAIN to no.1 MAIN BAITHA HUA BUDH VAHI ASAR DEGAA > JO > > > > SURAJ NO. 1 KA MUKARRAR HAI. > > > > If u find the co-relation of no.1 & 4 ,and analyze this type of > > > > tevaa what u understand ? Not about predection ,only about > co-relation > > > > or TALLUQ of BUDH & SURAJ. > > > > Please try to explain it.Bcoz view depends upon views as > > > > threads.After this we can continue the topic fairly . > > > > With Regards > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > V.Shukla > > > > Mb.9812020001 > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Aap ka hukam sar mathe par. Mein iss ka agaz apni uss mail se > karta > > > > hoon > > > > > ,jis mail se mein iss vishay ko chun saka. LAL KIABI jee ne > jinki > > > mere > > > > > dil mein kafi izzat hai apni mail mein Aurat ko Budh se kuchh > > > > gunjayash > > > > > dee thee, tab vishay budh ka hee thaa, khana no 9. > > > > > > > > > > Mera apna khayal hai ki Budh sirf khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka > > > kuchh > > > > > lihaz karta hai ya fir uss se kum khana no 7 mein uska lihaz > karta > > > > hai. > > > > > Khana no 9 ke liye Pujya Pandit jee ne jo kundli kee udaharan de > > > rakhi > > > > > hain, uss mein bhee unho ne rani ka nak chedan karwaya hai.Baki > jab > > > > sab > > > > > ki mail aani shuru ho jayengi samay samay par apne vichar deta > > > > rahoonga, > > > > > agar mein galat rahoon to mein chahta hoon ki mujh ko sahi kiya > > > jaye, > > > > > agar mujh ko lagta hai ki koi galat hai to mein zaroor likhoga > ta ki > > > > > mujh ko pata chal sake ki mein galat hoon ya sahi. > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajan ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap ne bahut sundar topic uthaya hai. Aap se mera anurodh hai > ki > > > aap > > > > > hi is bahas ka aagaz karen. > > > > > > > > > > > > pahale aap hi likhen ki is vishaya par aap ki soch kya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aadar sahit, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BUDH khana 9 par jo lambi discussion chali ussi se ek aur > vishay > > > > > > > discussion ke liye mujhe mil gaya. Jiske liye mein apne Bhai > > > sman > > > > > Vipan > > > > > > > Shukla Jee @ Lal Kitabee jee ka abhari hoon tatha yeh vishay > > > unhi > > > > ko > > > > > > > samarpit karta hoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kripya iss vishay par apne vichar khul kar pragat karein ki > budh > > > > > kinn > > > > > > > kinn halaaton mein aurat ka lihaz karta hai aur kyon karta > hai, > > > > > tatha > > > > > > > kya aurat ko budh ka ilaz (upay) karna chahiye ya nahi ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mein koi LAL KITAB ke school ka principal nahi hoon jo yeh > swal > > > > > puchh > > > > > > > rahan hoon lekin iss se hum sab logo ko BUDH ke baare mein > ek > > > > nayee > > > > > > > disha mil jayegi, mere gyan mein bhee badotari hogi.Asal > mein > > > mein > > > > > bhee > > > > > > > chahta hoon ki dekhe BUDH kitna khurafati hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apke jo bhee vichar ho spasht rakhe fir dekhe ki aapko kya > > > prapat > > > > > hota , > > > > > > > BUDH apna kitna bhed kholta hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Dear freinds, We are discussing Mercury in 9H and 12h. Let us discuss with the heip of some live example. Husband : Lagna Sag., Dec27, 1972 1H- Sun ,Jup and Rahu , 6H-Sat , 7H- Ketu ,10H-Moon , 12H- Mars, Venus ,Mercury Wife= Lagna -LEO, April 16 , 1977 3H-Rahu. 7H-Mars, 8H-Moon ,Venus, 9H Ketu, Sun,Mercury,10H- Jup,12H-Sat I hope this may help members to understand the role of Mercury in a better way. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA lalkitabee <lalkitabee Sent: Sunday, 29 March, 2009 4:34:57 PMLK discussion group Re: BUDH KYA AURAT KA LIHAZ KARTA HAI ? Lalkitabee Ji Res Mahajan JiKhana 12 main shukkar to oonch bol diyaa aapne .Us shukkar ko pradhaan banaa rahey hain jo ki tevey ke mutabik vahaan hoga ya nahi,Yah bad ki baat hai.Shukkar oonch hotaa hai theek hai,lekin budh to neech hee hotaa hai jo ki khana 12 main baithaa hee hogaa aur khana 12 guru ka pakka ghar bhi hai theek khana 9 ki tarah.Rahee baat mere manney ki- to meri us line ko shayad aap fir bhool gaye - Budh ki babat ,Aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa.Chalo khair aapki baat hee sahee ki jab shukkar khana 12 main oonch hone ke karan budh aurat ke tevey main uska lihaz karta hai to ,aurat ke roop main shukkar ki ashia hone ke karan bhi to lihaaz karegaa. bus yahi to baat hai jo main bol rahaa hoon. Kyonki aurat ka ashia ke roop main oonch ya neech ka sawaal hee nahi paida hotaa.Aurat pehley kanyaa hoti hai jo ki budh kee chez hai,fir kaamdev kee taqat aur mangal ki barkat se use ketu ka sukh naseeb hotaa hai isiliye oonch ketu bhee budh 12 kee zahar dho daltaa. hai.Iske alawa aurat ka naak chhedan amooman hua hee kartaa hai.Is poore discussion main bus yahi 2 baatain hain jinki vajah se mainey aurat ke lihaaz karne kee baat likhi1. Aurat shukkar kee ashia hai jo ki kabhi budh ka roop bhi thee kanyaa ke roop main2.Amooman aurat ka Naak chhedan hua hee kartaa hai.Pata nahi shayd mere samjhaane main hee koyee kami hai.Ovarall yah spasht hai ki aurat ke liye budh ka rukh naram hee hotaa hai.With RegardsPt.LalkitabeeV.ShuklaMb.9812020001 , "heartzthief54" <heartzthief54@ ...> wrote:>> > Lal Kitabee Je,> > Budh aurat ka lihaz nahi karta, yeh to aap ne hee apni mail mein maan> liya hai, yehi to mein kehna chahta hoon ki budh aurat ka lihaz bilkul> nahi karta.kynoki meine apni mail mein bhee yehi likha hai budh sirf> khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka kuchh lihaz karta hai ya uss se thoda kum> khana no 7 mein hee lihaz karega.> > KYON ?> > Kyonki khana no 12 mein Shukar unch hota hai iss liye woh wahan uska> lihaz karta hai. Khana no 7 bhee Shukar ka apna ghar hai .Budh aur> Shukar ka aapas mein kya relation hai yeh to kisi ko samjhane ki> zaroorat nahi.> > Aapne khud hee maan liya hai ki khana 12 mein bhee woh aurat ka lihaz> nahi karega, jab uske pati ka bhee budh 12 mein ho. Agar woh yahan bhee> aurat ka lihaz karta to usko kuchh na kuchh gunzayaish to deta lekin> nahi dee. Sirf ussi halat mein gunzayais dega jab sirf aurat ke khana no> 12 mein hee Budh ho. Iska matlab yehi hua na ki budh sirf khana no 12-7> ke ilava kahin bhee aurat ka lihaz nahi karega.> > Aurat ke pati ko aap kya mante hain ? mein nahi janta iss baare mein> kuchh. woh (budh)kyon nahi fir dono ka lihaz karta .Agar aap Pati ko> Shukar mante hain to mein kuchh nahi kar (keh) sakta. Aap khud hee> dhayan se soche ki Budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai ya nahi . Fir iss par> likhe, agar aap ya koi aur yeh sabit kar de ki Budh ne kisi ko aurat> hone ka fayda diya hai (khana 12 aur 7 chhodh kar), tabhi baat banegi.> Mein bhee to yehi janana chahta hoon ki kis ghar mein Budh ne aurat aur> mard ko alag alag fal diya hai.Graho ki ek hee tarah ki position rahegi,> dushaman aur dost ek hee postion mein ho tab bhee kya aurat aur mard ko> alag fal diya Budh ne ?> > Agar koi aur bhee jawab janta ho to batane ki chesta karein ta ki sab ke> gyan mein badotari ho sake kahin aisa na ho mein kuaen (well) ka maindak> hee rahoon.Mera sabko khula nimantran hai ki woh bhee iss mein hissa> lein aur apne apne vichar spasht karein ta ki BUDH ka kuchh to bhed> khul sake.> > Aadar Sahit> > MAHAJAN> , "lalkitabee"> <lalkitabee@ > wrote:> >> > Res Mahajan Ji> > Im not angry.Agar mere shabdon se jaane anjaane main bura laga ho to> muaafi chahtaa hun. Main bhi aapke khyal ko hee aage le ja rahaa> hoon.Kyonki khana 12 ka budh jo kee neech bhi hai aur sabse adhik kharab> bolaa gayaa hai ,aisa hone par bhi vah aurat ka lihaaz kartaa hai.To fir> aur jagah vah us Female ka lihaaz kyon nahi kar saktaa.Jaroor kar saktaa> hai.Khana 9 main kam se kam neech to nahi hai aur khana 12 aur 9 dono> hee brihaspati ki malkiyat ke hain.> > Aurat ka lihaaz karne ke peechhey karan hai kisi bhi female ka kanyaa> se aurat banne tak ka safar.Bus isi safar main to grihasthi ki chakki> chali aur suraj bhi aa gaya.Main bina shak keh saktaa hun ki budh aurat> ka lihaaz kar saktaa hai.> > Budh ki babat ,Aurat hone ka faydaa use milegaa.> > Aur jo aapne likhaa hai ki khana 12 ka budh hee aurat ka lihaaz kar> sakta hai. To aap usi chapter main dekhiye ki khana 12 ka budh bhi aurat> ka lihaaz nahi kartaa agar mard ka bhi budh khana 12 main ho.> > Ab to aap mere sawal ka jawaab de saktey hain na.> > With Regards> > Pt.Lalkitabee> > V.Shukla> > Mb.9812020001> >> > , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> > >> > > Lal Kitabee Jee,> > >> > > Itna gussa karne kee zaroorat nahi, abb aap hee ek baat bataye ki jo> > > aapne likha hai, agar vaisa teva aurat ka na hota, kisi mard ka hota> to> > > kya hota.Iss hisab se agar usko aurat hone ka fayda milta hai to> iska> > > matlab yehi hua na ki budh aurat ka lihaz karta hai,kyonki wahan par> > > Budh mard ka lihaz na karta? Aap khul kar likhe ki Budh aurat ka> lihaz> > > karta hai(ya nahi).Isko swal ke badle swal mat samjhe, apne vichar> > > spasht karein,ta ki discussion ko aage le jaya ja sake.> > >> > > Dhanyawad Sahit> > >> > > MAHAJAN> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "lalkitabee"> > > <lalkitabee@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Res Mahajan Ji> > > > This is the problem that u do not read carefully my letter.I have> > > > written-> > > > "Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa use> > > milegaa> > > > aur> > > > Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar hogi jab tak> > > Suraj> > > > aur budh> > > > ka taalluq na ho,> > > > Here the point no.> > > > 1.-- Horoscope of Female.> > > > 2.-- Suraj Ka talluq> > > > 3.-- There may be mere possibility of malefic> > > > Mercury.(This point isnt independent from my 2 points.)> > > > Now u can confirm from book also.Do not bcome rigid to words of> > > lalkiab> > > > ,DHOL KI POL KHOLO. Which kundali u have quoted from lalkitab,> there u> > > > forgot that Venus is also available there & due to that Pujya> Pandit> > > ji> > > > suggested about NAAK CHHEDAN, this remedy is not suggested due to> > > > placement of only budh.2ndly there is tradition in India to be> pierced> > > > nose specially of female.Bcoz of that reason also I wrote such> line.> > > > I have written above "SURAJ KA TALLUQ".If u will read at page no> 532> > > > at 1952 edition. there is written in an example - LEKIN AGAR SURAJ> > > > BAITHA HO NO.4 MAIN to no.1 MAIN BAITHA HUA BUDH VAHI ASAR DEGAA> JO> > > > SURAJ NO. 1 KA MUKARRAR HAI.> > > > If u find the co-relation of no.1 & 4 ,and analyze this type of> > > > tevaa what u understand ? Not about predection ,only about> co-relation> > > > or TALLUQ of BUDH & SURAJ.> > > > Please try to explain it.Bcoz view depends upon views as> > > > threads.After this we can continue the topic fairly .> > > > With Regards> > > > Pt.Lalkitabee> > > > V.Shukla> > > > Mb.9812020001> > > > , "heartzthief54"> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Varun Jee,> > > > >> > > > > Aap ka hukam sar mathe par. Mein iss ka agaz apni uss mail se> karta> > > > hoon> > > > > ,jis mail se mein iss vishay ko chun saka. LAL KIABI jee ne> jinki> > > mere> > > > > dil mein kafi izzat hai apni mail mein Aurat ko Budh se kuchh> > > > gunjayash> > > > > dee thee, tab vishay budh ka hee thaa, khana no 9.> > > > >> > > > > Mera apna khayal hai ki Budh sirf khana no 12 mein hee aurat ka> > > kuchh> > > > > lihaz karta hai ya fir uss se kum khana no 7 mein uska lihaz> karta> > > > hai.> > > > > Khana no 9 ke liye Pujya Pandit jee ne jo kundli kee udaharan de> > > rakhi> > > > > hain, uss mein bhee unho ne rani ka nak chedan karwaya hai.Baki> jab> > > > sab> > > > > ki mail aani shuru ho jayengi samay samay par apne vichar deta> > > > rahoonga,> > > > > agar mein galat rahoon to mein chahta hoon ki mujh ko sahi kiya> > > jaye,> > > > > agar mujh ko lagta hai ki koi galat hai to mein zaroor likhoga> ta ki> > > > > mujh ko pata chal sake ki mein galat hoon ya sahi.> > > > >> > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > > varun_trvd@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Mahajan ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Aap ne bahut sundar topic uthaya hai. Aap se mera anurodh hai> ki> > > aap> > > > > hi is bahas ka aagaz karen.> > > > > >> > > > > > pahale aap hi likhen ki is vishaya par aap ki soch kya hai.> > > > > >> > > > > > Aadar sahit,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "heartzthief54"> > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > BUDH khana 9 par jo lambi discussion chali ussi se ek aur> vishay> > > > > > > discussion ke liye mujhe mil gaya. Jiske liye mein apne Bhai> > > sman> > > > > Vipan> > > > > > > Shukla Jee @ Lal Kitabee jee ka abhari hoon tatha yeh vishay> > > unhi> > > > ko> > > > > > > samarpit karta hoon.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kripya iss vishay par apne vichar khul kar pragat karein ki> budh> > > > > kinn> > > > > > > kinn halaaton mein aurat ka lihaz karta hai aur kyon karta> hai,> > > > > tatha> > > > > > > kya aurat ko budh ka ilaz (upay) karna chahiye ya nahi ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mein koi LAL KITAB ke school ka principal nahi hoon jo yeh> swal> > > > > puchh> > > > > > > rahan hoon lekin iss se hum sab logo ko BUDH ke baare mein> ek> > > > nayee> > > > > > > disha mil jayegi, mere gyan mein bhee badotari hogi.Asal> mein> > > mein> > > > > bhee> > > > > > > chahta hoon ki dekhe BUDH kitna khurafati hai.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Apke jo bhee vichar ho spasht rakhe fir dekhe ki aapko kya> > > prapat> > > > > hota ,> > > > > > > BUDH apna kitna bhed kholta hai.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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