Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Res Mahajan Ji Budh mandey ki ek Nishani juban main totlapan to aa hee gayee. Iske alawaa aur kyaa dhoondhna chahtey hain.Khud Pandit Ji ne likh diya hai ki khana 11 bhi khali hua to Tilismi kuaan(well)hogaa aur uskee gehrayee ka pataa lagaane ke liye sedhi (Ladder)ka bhi intezaam na hogaa. Aap khul kar apnaa vichar kyon nahi rakh rahey hain? Aap hee apnaa vichar rakh deejiye na.Ho saktaa hai ki koyee nayee disha mil jaaye. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V.Shukla Mb.9812020001 , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Lal Kitabee Jee, > > Kripya sirf ek baat spasht kar dein ki agar teve wala sirf totla ho aur > baki Budh mande ki koi nishani na ho , behan bhee sukhi ho, bhua bhee > sukhi, mausi bhee sukhi, beti bhee sukhi, daant bhee theek, 5 bade > bhai(elder) yani ki mannato se na manga gaya, sirf aur sirf zuban mein > nukas tab kya ? > > MAHAJAN > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji, > > > > > > > > Simply superb !! > > > > Very convincing !!! > > > > I am sold to your view. > > > > Would seek your permission to include your answer in the articles to > be > > uploaded in the files. > > > > > > > > With respect and regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > lalkitabee@ wrote: > > > > > > Res Varun Ji > > > There is written -AISE SHAKHS KI PAIDAYEESH MAIN BHED HOGA, JISKE > > JAHIR > > > KARNE MAIN ISKI APNI JABAAN MAIN THATHLAPAN KA SABOOT HOGA.(MANDEY > > > MAAYNO MAIN) > > > Now Im picking ur questions one by one:- > > > Q.1.what does the phrase " padaish mein bhed hoga " mean. > > > Ans.:- In 1952 edition page no.570 ke mutabiq khana no. 9 main Budh > > hone > > > par Guru barbaad hogaa.Meri samajh to yahi hai ki aise insaan ki > > > paidayeesh ka bhed hee yahi hogaa ki aise teve wale ka baba potey > > > (Grandson) ko tarasta hogaa aur jab hogaa to budh ki gaaz babe > > > (Grand-father) par giregi aur baba shayd hee tevey waley ke 13 din > 13 > > > maheena ya 13 saal ki umra tak theek thaak rahey. Kayee martabaa to > > aisa > > > bhi dekha gayaa hai ki tevey waley ke janam se 9 mahinaa pehley hee > > baba > > > ki maut ho chuki hati hai aur babey ki barsi ke aaspaas tevey waley > ka > > > janam hotaa hai. Shayd yahi is budh ka bhed hai ki- BABA GAYA POTAA > > > AAYA, DHAAK KE TEEN PATTEY WALA SILSILA JAARI RAHAA. > > > > > > Q.2.How is this phrase generally used in every day parlance? > > > Ans. :- Mahatmaa ka ashirwaad aur haraam ki aulaad bhi amooman betaa > > hee > > > hoti hai, lekin budh 9 ke sandarbh main " paidayeesh main bhed ka > > > matalab " kisi bhi tarah se Insaan ko DNA test ki taraf nahi bhejtaa, > > > kyonki aulad ki shakal main bete ka karak Ketu hai aur Beti ka karak > > > Budh. Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa > use > > > milegaa aur Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar > hogi > > > jab tak Suraj aur budh ka taalluq na ho,leikn agar aadmi ke tevey > main > > > budh hua to yah kisi bhi tarah se insaan ki khud kee paidayeesh main > > > kisi tarah ka bhed BASTARDNESS ke roop main nahi rakh saktaa, kyonki > > > budh 9 wale ke baap ka ketu mandaa hogaa tabhi to vah ashirwaad ya > > > mannat karke aulad pane ki khwahish karegaa. > > > Aise main mahatma to Ketu ko umdaa karegaa magar budh ko Guru ke > > > makaan main jagah mil gayee to Guru ko to udaa hee degaa.Nateeztan > ya > > to > > > baba maregaa ya tevey wale ko saans ki bimari bhi ho sakti hai. > > > Varun ji this is the use in everyday parlance of this phrase. > > > Q3. What does the word 'bhed' mean in the context of a malefic > mercury > > > in the 9th house? > > > Ans.- Varun Ji my ans no. 1 & 2 are sufficient regarding this > querry. > > > Q.4-Is it used in the derogatory sense meaning a suspect parentage? > > > Ans.- This querry also covered above in ans no. 2 > > > > > > Q.5-Or, inspite of a malefic mercury being the indicative of this > > 'bhed' > > > should it be interpreted as an 'aasheervad' in response to a > 'mannat'. > > > Ans.:- Yes, bcoz mercury may be malefic for the concerned. Lekin > tevey > > > wale ke baap ke tevey main ketu mandaa hua tabhi to aulad ke liye > use > > > Guru ya Mahatma ya devtaa ki sharan main jaana padaa. Yah to mauka > mil > > > gayaa tilismi bhoot ko Bujrgi khana main saindh-mari karne ka aur > agar > > > usne saindh lagaa lee to bhed bas yahi hogaa ki Guru hilegaa kisi na > > > kisi tarah. > > > Poorey taur par yahi munasib hai ki - aise insaan kee paidayeesh > main > > > kuchh anokhi baat hogi " BHED " ka matlab CHAMATKAAR lenaa hee munasib > > > hogaa . Baaki sabhi ka apnaa apna sujhaav hai aur samajh hai. > > > With Regards > > > Pt. Lalkitabee > > > V.Shukla > > > Mb. 9812020001 > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji, > > > > > > > > The first thing we should define : > > > > > > > > what does the phrase " padaish mein bhed hoga " mean. > > > > > > > > [a] How is this phrase generally used in every day parlance? > > > > > > > > What does the word 'bhed' mean in the context of a malefic > > mercury > > > > in the 9th house? > > > > > > > > [c] Is it used in the derogatory sense meaning a suspect > parentage? > > > > > > > > [d] Or, inspite of a malefic mercury being the indicative of this > > > 'bhed' > > > > should it be interpreted as an 'aasheervad' in response to a > > 'mannat'. > > > > > > > > Could other members please share their views? > > > > > > > > I presume the phrase 'padaish mein bhed' as a result of malefic > > > mercury > > > > in the 9th house could mean a suspect parentage. > > > > > > > > With respect and regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > > > lalkitabee@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Res Kulbir Ji Mahajan Ji & Goyal Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Budh is as such basturd mythologically, So in case of khana no. > 9 > > > this > > > > > thought doesn't seems adequate. > > > > > Mere vichar se to paidayeesh main bhed ka ek hee matlab ho > saktaa > > > > > hai ki aisi aulad ya to kisi na kisi mannat ya ashirvaad se mili > > > hoti > > > > > hai ya fir koyee poorvaj hee punarjanm letaa hai. Mere aisa > kehne > > ke > > > > > peechhey aadhaar hai khana-9 (Bujurgi) aur iska maalik > > > > > guru(Brihaspat).Agar aisa insaan kisi na kisi mannat ya kisi > murad > > > se > > > > > mangaa gaya hotaa hai to ,spasht hai ki aise insaan ke father ka > > > ketu > > > > > (ketu Guru ka agent hai) amooman mandaa hee hogaa . vah father > > > > > dharmsthan ya guru - gaddi se half uthakar aulad ki fariyaad > > > > > karegaa,fariyaad sun lee gayee to nateeza hogaa ki aulad hogi- > > > > > ( Vaise bhi saadhu ,Mahaatmaa ke ashirwaad se ya mannat se > amooman > > > > > betaa hee paida hotaa hai aisa udaharn ap mythologically & > > > practically > > > > > jyadatar dekh aur sun saktey hain).Baaki group main jin logon ka > > > budh > > > > > khana 9 main ho unkee baabat bhi is baat ki durusti kee ja sakti > > > > > hai.Mera to bus ek khyaal hai ,maine jaisa samjha likh > diyaa.Mere > > > > hisaab > > > > > se iska matalab " nazayaz aulad " nahi ho saktaa.Kyonki sabhi khel > > > Guru > > > > > aur budh ka hai, agar khana no 9 main budh hai aur 6 main guru , > > > > vahaan > > > > > bhi to Rin pitri se muraad hoti hai ,isi tarah guru ke ghar > khana > > 9 > > > > main > > > > > agar budh ho aur pitri rin ki shart na ho to paidayeesh main > ooper > > > > > likhey gaye bhed ke alawa aur kyaa bhed ho saktaa hai. > > > > > Mythologically budh is bastared son of Jupiter by Moon. So Budh > is > > > > > rival to moon not to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > V.Shukla > > > > > Mb. 09812020001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected vijay ji, the way u have related mythology to > explain > > > this > > > > > > condition is heartening. That's what discussion is meant to > be. > > > > There > > > > > > is one more condition about this bhed of parentage. I shall > > > > hopefully > > > > > > find it and post it soon. U and varun ji are right bhed > doesn't > > > > > > necessarily mean bastardness. It includes divine blessing. > Some > > > > > > treatment. Change in time of birth, place of birth. Unexpected > > > > > > circumstances. Help or hinderance from unexpected sources. > Birth > > > of > > > > > > some ancestor. The list is endless. The one i know the parents > > > went > > > > in > > > > > > for prenatal test. Doctor told that it was a male child. The > > > parents > > > > > > didn't want a girl child but ultimately the girl child was > born. > > I > > > > > > accept ur approach. Now lets find about the another condition > > > also. > > > > > > Regards. Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/22/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The complete line is as under : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LK-1941 version, pg 147. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ease shaks ki pedaish mein bhed hoga, jisko jahir karne > mein > > > uski > > > > > apni > > > > > > > juban mein bhi thatelepan ka sabut hoga " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This clearly means that if the person has mercury in 9th > house > > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > > hammering in speech than only their could be doubt in his > > birth > > > > else > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is more explained in LK-1952 (english.pg.534): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An egg (of imitation) is born in H.No.9, whose inner > condition > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > revealed by H.No. 11. Conduct of mercury in H.No. 9 will be > > > > revealed > > > > > by > > > > > > > the planet in H.No. 11. > > > > > > > If H.No.11 is blank,than mercury act as very malefic and > could > > > > > deride > > > > > > > father's relation with mother. > > > > > > > Moon or ketu or jupiter in H.No.11 will make lucky, wealthy, > > > > > religious, > > > > > > > and long life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > Secret of mercury can be known thought the mathematical > > > > calculation > > > > > > > given in Lk-1942 pg. 187. > > > > > > > The net result of calculation will show the final house > effect > > > and > > > > > > > nature of mercury in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The malefic effect of mercury in H No.9 is like a bat > > > (chamkadarh) > > > > > gives > > > > > > > loss of wealth & health (short age). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best remedies suggested is > > > > > > > 1)Piercing the nose. > > > > > > > 2)To keep round iron ball with red color coated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explaination of remedies will be provided by the more > > > learned > > > > > person > > > > > > > in this group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we go to mythology, mercury is the 'bustard' son of > > jupiter, > > > > moon > > > > > > > eloped 'Tara' the wife of jupiter, thus mercury was born. > > > > > > > Later Jupiter after seeing the repentance of mercury > accepted > > > him > > > > as > > > > > the > > > > > > > student. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May be relation of mercury with 9th house (father and guru) > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > this possibilty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mythology can be understand in other meaning also. > > > > > > > Jupiter is wisdom (truth) itself, Tara (wife also star) is > the > > > > power > > > > > > > behind that wisdom, whenever flickering of mind (moon) will > > > occur > > > > > (Tara > > > > > > > runs away with moon), only imitation (false) of knowledge > will > > > > occur > > > > > ie > > > > > > > mercury will be born. It simply means that he will be very > > good > > > at > > > > > > > communication and speech but indept knowledge will be > lacking. > > > So > > > > by > > > > > > > becoming the good student is the only way to become a good > > guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > 09214502239. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Varun Jee & Other Members, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Agar kisi kee samajh mein yeh aye ki BUDH khana no 9 wale > ki > > > > > paidaish > > > > > > >> mein koi bhed hoga, kripya mujh ko samjhaane ka prayas > > > > > karein.Bahut > > > > > > >> meharbani hogi. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> MAHAJAN > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 LAL KITABEE JEE, Mera apna vichar hai ki jab zuban mein totlapan aa hee gaya to budh mande kee dusree nishaniya dekhne kee koi zaroorat nahi ( aap sahi hain),lekin iske saath hee mein yeh bhee kehna chahoonga ki jab zuban mein totlapan aa jayega to budh manda asar nahi dega.yeh to hai tab ki baat jab budh khana no 9 ko chhod kar kisi dusre khana mein ho.Kyonki khana no 9 ka Budh totlepan(thathlana) se kuchh aur hee zahir karta hoga. Abb jab budh khana no 9 mein ho aur totlapan ho to hee uski paidaish mein bhed hoga woh chahe aurat ho ya mard ,yahan par jaisa ki aapne likha hai use aurat hone ka fayda milega, iss vichar se mein sehmat nahi. Budh hamesh hee Brahspati par waar karega , yahan par bhee woh Brahspati par hee waar karega ( Aapne sahi likha)lekin yahan par baba ya pita(father) ketu(aulad) ko tarsega/ya tarsata hoga mera aap se matbhed rahega, jis se aapne likha ki aisa beta bahut he mannato ke baad paida hua hoga yehi bhed hai.Mein sehmat nahi???????? kyon ? Agar beta(jatak) bahut hee mannato ke baad paida hua hai,(agar aisa jatak ladki/female ho to kya kahenge) to iss mein aisee kya burai hai jisko zahir karne mein usko aisee jhijak hai ki zuban mein totlapan aa jaye/gaya. Kripya isko hee spasht kar dein, tatha saath hee yeh bhee batayein ki agar aisa jatak ladki ho , aur uski zuban mein bhee totlapan ho to kya kahenge ya kya bhed hoga uski paidaish mein.Kya aisee ladki kee paidaaish mein koi bhed nahi hoga? Aur aap yeh kis baat ko maddenazar rakh kar kaeh rahen hain ki usko ladki hone ka fayda milne ki gunjayash hai?aur kyon gunjayash de rahen hai ? Baat wahi aa kar attak jayegi ki aisa kya bhed hai jisko zahir karne mein uski zuban mein totlapan hoga, mera khayal shuru se wohi hai jiska ishara sabhi to kar rahe hain lekin khulle man se sweekar nahi kar pa rahe . Mein saaf saaf shabdon mein kehta hoon ki aise jatak NAZAYAZ ho sakte hain ya hain. Sharat wohi hai ki zuban mein totlapan aur Budh khana no 9 mein zaroori ho, yeh dono sharte agar puree hain tabhee yeh lagoo hoga warna nahi. Hamari iss discussion ko bahut se senior aur vidhyarthi bhee padh rahe honge, senior to mazha le rahe hain meri unn se request hai ki woh bhee zara khul kar apni baat rakhe(BHUSHAN PRIYA JEE, YOG RAJ JEE, UMESH SHARMA JEE ABB TO JAAG JAYIE) Aadar Sahit MAHAJAN , "lalkitabee" <lalkitabee wrote:>> Res Mahajan Ji> Budh mandey ki ek Nishani juban main totlapan to aa hee gayee. Iske alawaa aur kyaa dhoondhna chahtey hain.Khud Pandit Ji ne likh diya hai ki khana 11 bhi khali hua to Tilismi kuaan(well)hogaa aur uskee gehrayee ka pataa lagaane ke liye sedhi (Ladder)ka bhi intezaam na hogaa. Aap khul kar apnaa vichar kyon nahi rakh rahey hain? Aap hee apnaa vichar rakh deejiye na.Ho saktaa hai ki koyee nayee disha mil jaaye.> With Regards> Pt.Lalkitabee> V.Shukla> Mb.9812020001> , "heartzthief54" heartzthief54@ wrote:> >> > Lal Kitabee Jee,> >> > Kripya sirf ek baat spasht kar dein ki agar teve wala sirf totla ho aur> > baki Budh mande ki koi nishani na ho , behan bhee sukhi ho, bhua bhee> > sukhi, mausi bhee sukhi, beti bhee sukhi, daant bhee theek, 5 bade> > bhai(elder) yani ki mannato se na manga gaya, sirf aur sirf zuban mein> > nukas tab kya ?> >> > MAHAJAN> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "varun_trvd"> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Respected Lalkitabee ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Simply superb !!> > >> > > Very convincing !!!> > >> > > I am sold to your view.> > >> > > Would seek your permission to include your answer in the articles to> > be> > > uploaded in the files.> > >> > >> > >> > > With respect and regards,> > >> > > Varun Trivedi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "lalkitabee"> > > lalkitabee@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Res Varun Ji> > > > There is written -AISE SHAKHS KI PAIDAYEESH MAIN BHED HOGA, JISKE> > > JAHIR> > > > KARNE MAIN ISKI APNI JABAAN MAIN THATHLAPAN KA SABOOT HOGA.(MANDEY> > > > MAAYNO MAIN)> > > > Now Im picking ur questions one by one:-> > > > Q.1.what does the phrase " padaish mein bhed hoga" mean.> > > > Ans.:- In 1952 edition page no.570 ke mutabiq khana no. 9 main Budh> > > hone> > > > par Guru barbaad hogaa.Meri samajh to yahi hai ki aise insaan ki> > > > paidayeesh ka bhed hee yahi hogaa ki aise teve wale ka baba potey> > > > (Grandson) ko tarasta hogaa aur jab hogaa to budh ki gaaz babe> > > > (Grand-father) par giregi aur baba shayd hee tevey waley ke 13 din> > 13> > > > maheena ya 13 saal ki umra tak theek thaak rahey. Kayee martabaa to> > > aisa> > > > bhi dekha gayaa hai ki tevey waley ke janam se 9 mahinaa pehley hee> > > baba> > > > ki maut ho chuki hati hai aur babey ki barsi ke aaspaas tevey waley> > ka> > > > janam hotaa hai. Shayd yahi is budh ka bhed hai ki- BABA GAYA POTAA> > > > AAYA, DHAAK KE TEEN PATTEY WALA SILSILA JAARI RAHAA.> > > >> > > > Q.2.How is this phrase generally used in every day parlance?> > > > Ans. :- Mahatmaa ka ashirwaad aur haraam ki aulaad bhi amooman betaa> > > hee> > > > hoti hai, lekin budh 9 ke sandarbh main "paidayeesh main bhed ka> > > > matalab" kisi bhi tarah se Insaan ko DNA test ki taraf nahi bhejtaa,> > > > kyonki aulad ki shakal main bete ka karak Ketu hai aur Beti ka karak> > > > Budh. Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka faydaa> > use> > > > milegaa aur Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar> > hogi> > > > jab tak Suraj aur budh ka taalluq na ho,leikn agar aadmi ke tevey> > main> > > > budh hua to yah kisi bhi tarah se insaan ki khud kee paidayeesh main> > > > kisi tarah ka bhed BASTARDNESS ke roop main nahi rakh saktaa, kyonki> > > > budh 9 wale ke baap ka ketu mandaa hogaa tabhi to vah ashirwaad ya> > > > mannat karke aulad pane ki khwahish karegaa.> > > > Aise main mahatma to Ketu ko umdaa karegaa magar budh ko Guru ke> > > > makaan main jagah mil gayee to Guru ko to udaa hee degaa.Nateeztan> > ya> > > to> > > > baba maregaa ya tevey wale ko saans ki bimari bhi ho sakti hai.> > > > Varun ji this is the use in everyday parlance of this phrase.> > > > Q3. What does the word 'bhed' mean in the context of a malefic> > mercury> > > > in the 9th house?> > > > Ans.- Varun Ji my ans no. 1 & 2 are sufficient regarding this> > querry.> > > > Q.4-Is it used in the derogatory sense meaning a suspect parentage?> > > > Ans.- This querry also covered above in ans no. 2> > > >> > > > Q.5-Or, inspite of a malefic mercury being the indicative of this> > > 'bhed'> > > > should it be interpreted as an 'aasheervad' in response to a> > 'mannat'.> > > > Ans.:- Yes, bcoz mercury may be malefic for the concerned. Lekin> > tevey> > > > wale ke baap ke tevey main ketu mandaa hua tabhi to aulad ke liye> > use> > > > Guru ya Mahatma ya devtaa ki sharan main jaana padaa. Yah to mauka> > mil> > > > gayaa tilismi bhoot ko Bujrgi khana main saindh-mari karne ka aur> > agar> > > > usne saindh lagaa lee to bhed bas yahi hogaa ki Guru hilegaa kisi na> > > > kisi tarah.> > > > Poorey taur par yahi munasib hai ki - aise insaan kee paidayeesh> > main> > > > kuchh anokhi baat hogi "BHED" ka matlab CHAMATKAAR lenaa hee munasib> > > > hogaa . Baaki sabhi ka apnaa apna sujhaav hai aur samajh hai.> > > > With Regards> > > > Pt. Lalkitabee> > > > V.Shukla> > > > Mb. 9812020001> > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > varun_trvd@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji,> > > > >> > > > > The first thing we should define :> > > > >> > > > > what does the phrase " padaish mein bhed hoga" mean.> > > > >> > > > > [a] How is this phrase generally used in every day parlance?> > > > >> > > > > What does the word 'bhed' mean in the context of a malefic> > > mercury> > > > > in the 9th house?> > > > >> > > > > [c] Is it used in the derogatory sense meaning a suspect> > parentage?> > > > >> > > > > [d] Or, inspite of a malefic mercury being the indicative of this> > > > 'bhed'> > > > > should it be interpreted as an 'aasheervad' in response to a> > > 'mannat'.> > > > >> > > > > Could other members please share their views?> > > > >> > > > > I presume the phrase 'padaish mein bhed' as a result of malefic> > > > mercury> > > > > in the 9th house could mean a suspect parentage.> > > > >> > > > > With respect and regards,> > > > >> > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "lalkitabee"> > > > > lalkitabee@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Res Kulbir Ji Mahajan Ji & Goyal Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Budh is as such basturd mythologically, So in case of khana no.> > 9> > > > this> > > > > > thought doesn't seems adequate.> > > > > > Mere vichar se to paidayeesh main bhed ka ek hee matlab ho> > saktaa> > > > > > hai ki aisi aulad ya to kisi na kisi mannat ya ashirvaad se mili> > > > hoti> > > > > > hai ya fir koyee poorvaj hee punarjanm letaa hai. Mere aisa> > kehne> > > ke> > > > > > peechhey aadhaar hai khana-9 (Bujurgi) aur iska maalik> > > > > > guru(Brihaspat).Agar aisa insaan kisi na kisi mannat ya kisi> > murad> > > > se> > > > > > mangaa gaya hotaa hai to ,spasht hai ki aise insaan ke father ka> > > > ketu> > > > > > (ketu Guru ka agent hai) amooman mandaa hee hogaa . vah father> > > > > > dharmsthan ya guru - gaddi se half uthakar aulad ki fariyaad> > > > > > karegaa,fariyaad sun lee gayee to nateeza hogaa ki aulad hogi-> > > > > > ( Vaise bhi saadhu ,Mahaatmaa ke ashirwaad se ya mannat se> > amooman> > > > > > betaa hee paida hotaa hai aisa udaharn ap mythologically & > > > > practically> > > > > > jyadatar dekh aur sun saktey hain).Baaki group main jin logon ka> > > > budh> > > > > > khana 9 main ho unkee baabat bhi is baat ki durusti kee ja sakti> > > > > > hai.Mera to bus ek khyaal hai ,maine jaisa samjha likh> > diyaa.Mere> > > > > hisaab> > > > > > se iska matalab "nazayaz aulad" nahi ho saktaa.Kyonki sabhi khel> > > > Guru> > > > > > aur budh ka hai, agar khana no 9 main budh hai aur 6 main guru ,> > > > > vahaan> > > > > > bhi to Rin pitri se muraad hoti hai ,isi tarah guru ke ghar> > khana> > > 9> > > > > main> > > > > > agar budh ho aur pitri rin ki shart na ho to paidayeesh main> > ooper> > > > > > likhey gaye bhed ke alawa aur kyaa bhed ho saktaa hai.> > > > > > Mythologically budh is bastared son of Jupiter by Moon. So Budh> > is> > > > > > rival to moon not to Jupiter.> > > > > >> > > > > > With Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Pt. Lalkitabee> > > > > >> > > > > > V.Shukla> > > > > > Mb. 09812020001> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , kulbir bance> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected vijay ji, the way u have related mythology to> > explain> > > > this> > > > > > > condition is heartening. That's what discussion is meant to> > be.> > > > > There> > > > > > > is one more condition about this bhed of parentage. I shall> > > > > hopefully> > > > > > > find it and post it soon. U and varun ji are right bhed> > doesn't> > > > > > > necessarily mean bastardness. It includes divine blessing.> > Some> > > > > > > treatment. Change in time of birth, place of birth. Unexpected> > > > > > > circumstances. Help or hinderance from unexpected sources.> > Birth> > > > of> > > > > > > some ancestor. The list is endless. The one i know the parents> > > > went> > > > > in> > > > > > > for prenatal test. Doctor told that it was a male child. The> > > > parents> > > > > > > didn't want a girl child but ultimately the girl child was> > born.> > > I> > > > > > > accept ur approach. Now lets find about the another condition> > > > also.> > > > > > > Regards. Kulbir.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 3/22/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The complete line is as under :> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > LK-1941 version, pg 147.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > "Ease shaks ki pedaish mein bhed hoga, jisko jahir karne> > mein> > > > uski> > > > > > apni> > > > > > > > juban mein bhi thatelepan ka sabut hoga "> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This clearly means that if the person has mercury in 9th> > house> > > > and> > > > > > also> > > > > > > > hammering in speech than only their could be doubt in his> > > birth> > > > > else> > > > > > > > not.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It is more explained in LK-1952 (english.pg.534):> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > An egg (of imitation) is born in H.No.9, whose inner> > condition> > > > > will> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > revealed by H.No. 11. Conduct of mercury in H.No. 9 will be> > > > > revealed> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > the planet in H.No. 11.> > > > > > > > If H.No.11 is blank,than mercury act as very malefic and> > could> > > > > > deride> > > > > > > > father's relation with mother.> > > > > > > > Moon or ketu or jupiter in H.No.11 will make lucky, wealthy,> > > > > > religious,> > > > > > > > and long life.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > Secret of mercury can be known thought the mathematical> > > > > calculation> > > > > > > > given in Lk-1942 pg. 187.> > > > > > > > The net result of calculation will show the final house> > effect> > > > and> > > > > > > > nature of mercury in the chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The malefic effect of mercury in H No.9 is like a bat> > > > (chamkadarh)> > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > loss of wealth & health (short age).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The best remedies suggested is> > > > > > > > 1)Piercing the nose.> > > > > > > > 2)To keep round iron ball with red color coated.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The explaination of remedies will be provided by the more> > > > learned> > > > > > person> > > > > > > > in this group.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > If we go to mythology, mercury is the 'bustard' son of> > > jupiter,> > > > > moon> > > > > > > > eloped 'Tara' the wife of jupiter, thus mercury was born.> > > > > > > > Later Jupiter after seeing the repentance of mercury> > accepted> > > > him> > > > > as> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > student.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > May be relation of mercury with 9th house (father and guru)> > > > > > indicate> > > > > > > > this possibilty.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This mythology can be understand in other meaning also.> > > > > > > > Jupiter is wisdom (truth) itself, Tara (wife also star) is> > the> > > > > power> > > > > > > > behind that wisdom, whenever flickering of mind (moon) will> > > > occur> > > > > > (Tara> > > > > > > > runs away with moon), only imitation (false) of knowledge> > will> > > > > occur> > > > > > ie> > > > > > > > mercury will be born. It simply means that he will be very> > > good> > > > at> > > > > > > > communication and speech but indept knowledge will be> > lacking.> > > > So> > > > > by> > > > > > > > becoming the good student is the only way to become a good> > > guru.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > 09214502239.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "heartzthief54"> > > > > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Varun Jee & Other Members,> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Agar kisi kee samajh mein yeh aye ki BUDH khana no 9 wale> > ki> > > > > > paidaish> > > > > > > >> mein koi bhed hoga, kripya mujh ko samjhaane ka prayas> > > > > > karein.Bahut> > > > > > > >> meharbani hogi.> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> MAHAJAN> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, Right from the beginning I knew that you have some thing up your sleeve. such mein bahut sundar Aap ke lekh ne phir shochne par majboor kar diya. Dhanyavaad sahit, Varun Trivedi , "heartzthief54" <heartzthief54 wrote:>> > LAL KITABEE JEE,> > Mera apna vichar hai ki jab zuban mein totlapan aa hee gaya to budh> mande kee dusree nishaniya dekhne kee koi zaroorat nahi ( aap sahi> hain),lekin iske saath hee mein yeh bhee kehna chahoonga ki jab zuban> mein totlapan aa jayega to budh manda asar nahi dega.yeh to hai tab ki> baat jab budh khana no 9 ko chhod kar kisi dusre khana mein ho.Kyonki> khana no 9 ka Budh totlepan(thathlana) se kuchh aur hee zahir karta> hoga.> > Abb jab budh khana no 9 mein ho aur totlapan ho to hee uski paidaish> mein bhed hoga woh chahe aurat ho ya mard ,yahan par jaisa ki aapne> likha hai use aurat hone ka fayda milega, iss vichar se mein sehmat> nahi.> > Budh hamesh hee Brahspati par waar karega , yahan par bhee woh Brahspati> par hee waar karega ( Aapne sahi likha)lekin yahan par baba ya> pita(father) ketu(aulad) ko tarsega/ya tarsata hoga mera aap se matbhed> rahega, jis se aapne likha ki aisa beta bahut he mannato ke baad paida> hua hoga yehi bhed hai.Mein sehmat nahi???????? kyon ?> > Agar beta(jatak) bahut hee mannato ke baad paida hua hai,(agar aisa> jatak ladki/female ho to kya kahenge) to iss mein aisee kya burai hai> jisko zahir karne mein usko aisee jhijak hai ki zuban mein totlapan aa> jaye/gaya. Kripya isko hee spasht kar dein, tatha saath hee yeh bhee> batayein ki agar aisa jatak ladki ho , aur uski zuban mein bhee totlapan> ho to kya kahenge ya kya bhed hoga uski paidaish mein.Kya aisee ladki> kee paidaaish mein koi bhed nahi hoga? Aur aap yeh kis baat ko> maddenazar rakh kar kaeh rahen hain ki usko ladki hone ka fayda milne ki> gunjayash hai?aur kyon gunjayash de rahen hai ?> > Baat wahi aa kar attak jayegi ki aisa kya bhed hai jisko zahir karne> mein uski zuban mein totlapan hoga, mera khayal shuru se wohi hai jiska> ishara sabhi to kar rahe hain lekin khulle man se sweekar nahi kar pa> rahe . Mein saaf saaf shabdon mein kehta hoon ki aise jatak NAZAYAZ ho> sakte hain ya hain. Sharat wohi hai ki zuban mein totlapan aur Budh> khana no 9 mein zaroori ho, yeh dono sharte agar puree hain tabhee yeh> lagoo hoga warna nahi.> > Hamari iss discussion ko bahut se senior aur vidhyarthi bhee padh rahe> honge, senior to mazha le rahe hain meri unn se request hai ki woh bhee> zara khul kar apni baat rakhe(BHUSHAN PRIYA JEE, YOG RAJ JEE, UMESH> SHARMA JEE ABB TO JAAG JAYIE)> > > > Aadar Sahit> > MAHAJAN> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "lalkitabee"> lalkitabee@ wrote:> >> > Res Mahajan Ji> > Budh mandey ki ek Nishani juban main totlapan to aa hee gayee. Iske> alawaa aur kyaa dhoondhna chahtey hain.Khud Pandit Ji ne likh diya hai> ki khana 11 bhi khali hua to Tilismi kuaan(well)hogaa aur uskee gehrayee> ka pataa lagaane ke liye sedhi (Ladder)ka bhi intezaam na hogaa. Aap> khul kar apnaa vichar kyon nahi rakh rahey hain? Aap hee apnaa vichar> rakh deejiye na.Ho saktaa hai ki koyee nayee disha mil jaaye.> > With Regards> > Pt.Lalkitabee> > V.Shukla> > Mb.9812020001> > , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> > >> > > Lal Kitabee Jee,> > >> > > Kripya sirf ek baat spasht kar dein ki agar teve wala sirf totla ho> aur> > > baki Budh mande ki koi nishani na ho , behan bhee sukhi ho, bhua> bhee> > > sukhi, mausi bhee sukhi, beti bhee sukhi, daant bhee theek, 5 bade> > > bhai(elder) yani ki mannato se na manga gaya, sirf aur sirf zuban> mein> > > nukas tab kya ?> > >> > > MAHAJAN> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "varun_trvd"> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Simply superb !!> > > >> > > > Very convincing !!!> > > >> > > > I am sold to your view.> > > >> > > > Would seek your permission to include your answer in the articles> to> > > be> > > > uploaded in the files.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > With respect and regards,> > > >> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "lalkitabee"> > > > lalkitabee@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Res Varun Ji> > > > > There is written -AISE SHAKHS KI PAIDAYEESH MAIN BHED HOGA,> JISKE> > > > JAHIR> > > > > KARNE MAIN ISKI APNI JABAAN MAIN THATHLAPAN KA SABOOT> HOGA.(MANDEY> > > > > MAAYNO MAIN)> > > > > Now Im picking ur questions one by one:-> > > > > Q.1.what does the phrase " padaish mein bhed hoga" mean.> > > > > Ans.:- In 1952 edition page no.570 ke mutabiq khana no. 9 main> Budh> > > > hone> > > > > par Guru barbaad hogaa.Meri samajh to yahi hai ki aise insaan ki> > > > > paidayeesh ka bhed hee yahi hogaa ki aise teve wale ka baba> potey> > > > > (Grandson) ko tarasta hogaa aur jab hogaa to budh ki gaaz babe> > > > > (Grand-father) par giregi aur baba shayd hee tevey waley ke 13> din> > > 13> > > > > maheena ya 13 saal ki umra tak theek thaak rahey. Kayee martabaa> to> > > > aisa> > > > > bhi dekha gayaa hai ki tevey waley ke janam se 9 mahinaa pehley> hee> > > > baba> > > > > ki maut ho chuki hati hai aur babey ki barsi ke aaspaas tevey> waley> > > ka> > > > > janam hotaa hai. Shayd yahi is budh ka bhed hai ki- BABA GAYA> POTAA> > > > > AAYA, DHAAK KE TEEN PATTEY WALA SILSILA JAARI RAHAA.> > > > >> > > > > Q.2.How is this phrase generally used in every day parlance?> > > > > Ans. :- Mahatmaa ka ashirwaad aur haraam ki aulaad bhi amooman> betaa> > > > hee> > > > > hoti hai, lekin budh 9 ke sandarbh main "paidayeesh main bhed ka> > > > > matalab" kisi bhi tarah se Insaan ko DNA test ki taraf nahi> bhejtaa,> > > > > kyonki aulad ki shakal main bete ka karak Ketu hai aur Beti ka> karak> > > > > Budh. Aurat ke tevey main agar budh 9 hua to aurat hone ka> faydaa> > > use> > > > > milegaa aur Budh ke kharaab hone ki gunjayeesh bhi na ke barabar> > > hogi> > > > > jab tak Suraj aur budh ka taalluq na ho,leikn agar aadmi ke> tevey> > > main> > > > > budh hua to yah kisi bhi tarah se insaan ki khud kee paidayeesh> main> > > > > kisi tarah ka bhed BASTARDNESS ke roop main nahi rakh saktaa,> kyonki> > > > > budh 9 wale ke baap ka ketu mandaa hogaa tabhi to vah ashirwaad> ya> > > > > mannat karke aulad pane ki khwahish karegaa.> > > > > Aise main mahatma to Ketu ko umdaa karegaa magar budh ko Guru ke> > > > > makaan main jagah mil gayee to Guru ko to udaa hee> degaa.Nateeztan> > > ya> > > > to> > > > > baba maregaa ya tevey wale ko saans ki bimari bhi ho sakti hai.> > > > > Varun ji this is the use in everyday parlance of this phrase.> > > > > Q3. What does the word 'bhed' mean in the context of a malefic> > > mercury> > > > > in the 9th house?> > > > > Ans.- Varun Ji my ans no. 1 & 2 are sufficient regarding this> > > querry.> > > > > Q.4-Is it used in the derogatory sense meaning a suspect> parentage?> > > > > Ans.- This querry also covered above in ans no. 2> > > > >> > > > > Q.5-Or, inspite of a malefic mercury being the indicative of> this> > > > 'bhed'> > > > > should it be interpreted as an 'aasheervad' in response to a> > > 'mannat'.> > > > > Ans.:- Yes, bcoz mercury may be malefic for the concerned. Lekin> > > tevey> > > > > wale ke baap ke tevey main ketu mandaa hua tabhi to aulad ke> liye> > > use> > > > > Guru ya Mahatma ya devtaa ki sharan main jaana padaa. Yah to> mauka> > > mil> > > > > gayaa tilismi bhoot ko Bujrgi khana main saindh-mari karne ka> aur> > > agar> > > > > usne saindh lagaa lee to bhed bas yahi hogaa ki Guru hilegaa> kisi na> > > > > kisi tarah.> > > > > Poorey taur par yahi munasib hai ki - aise insaan kee paidayeesh> > > main> > > > > kuchh anokhi baat hogi "BHED" ka matlab CHAMATKAAR lenaa hee> munasib> > > > > hogaa . Baaki sabhi ka apnaa apna sujhaav hai aur samajh hai.> > > > > With Regards> > > > > Pt. Lalkitabee> > > > > V.Shukla> > > > > Mb. 9812020001> > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > > varun_trvd@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > The first thing we should define :> > > > > >> > > > > > what does the phrase " padaish mein bhed hoga" mean.> > > > > >> > > > > > [a] How is this phrase generally used in every day parlance?> > > > > >> > > > > > What does the word 'bhed' mean in the context of a malefic> > > > mercury> > > > > > in the 9th house?> > > > > >> > > > > > [c] Is it used in the derogatory sense meaning a suspect> > > parentage?> > > > > >> > > > > > [d] Or, inspite of a malefic mercury being the indicative of> this> > > > > 'bhed'> > > > > > should it be interpreted as an 'aasheervad' in response to a> > > > 'mannat'.> > > > > >> > > > > > Could other members please share their views?> > > > > >> > > > > > I presume the phrase 'padaish mein bhed' as a result of> malefic> > > > > mercury> > > > > > in the 9th house could mean a suspect parentage.> > > > > >> > > > > > With respect and regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "lalkitabee"> > > > > > lalkitabee@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Res Kulbir Ji Mahajan Ji & Goyal Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Budh is as such basturd mythologically, So in case of khana> no.> > > 9> > > > > this> > > > > > > thought doesn't seems adequate.> > > > > > > Mere vichar se to paidayeesh main bhed ka ek hee matlab ho> > > saktaa> > > > > > > hai ki aisi aulad ya to kisi na kisi mannat ya ashirvaad se> mili> > > > > hoti> > > > > > > hai ya fir koyee poorvaj hee punarjanm letaa hai. Mere aisa> > > kehne> > > > ke> > > > > > > peechhey aadhaar hai khana-9 (Bujurgi) aur iska maalik> > > > > > > guru(Brihaspat).Agar aisa insaan kisi na kisi mannat ya kisi> > > murad> > > > > se> > > > > > > mangaa gaya hotaa hai to ,spasht hai ki aise insaan ke> father ka> > > > > ketu> > > > > > > (ketu Guru ka agent hai) amooman mandaa hee hogaa . vah> father> > > > > > > dharmsthan ya guru - gaddi se half uthakar aulad ki fariyaad> > > > > > > karegaa,fariyaad sun lee gayee to nateeza hogaa ki aulad> hogi-> > > > > > > ( Vaise bhi saadhu ,Mahaatmaa ke ashirwaad se ya mannat se> > > amooman> > > > > > > betaa hee paida hotaa hai aisa udaharn ap mythologically & > > > > > practically> > > > > > > jyadatar dekh aur sun saktey hain).Baaki group main jin> logon ka> > > > > budh> > > > > > > khana 9 main ho unkee baabat bhi is baat ki durusti kee ja> sakti> > > > > > > hai.Mera to bus ek khyaal hai ,maine jaisa samjha likh> > > diyaa.Mere> > > > > > hisaab> > > > > > > se iska matalab "nazayaz aulad" nahi ho saktaa.Kyonki sabhi> khel> > > > > Guru> > > > > > > aur budh ka hai, agar khana no 9 main budh hai aur 6 main> guru ,> > > > > > vahaan> > > > > > > bhi to Rin pitri se muraad hoti hai ,isi tarah guru ke ghar> > > khana> > > > 9> > > > > > main> > > > > > > agar budh ho aur pitri rin ki shart na ho to paidayeesh main> > > ooper> > > > > > > likhey gaye bhed ke alawa aur kyaa bhed ho saktaa hai.> > > > > > > Mythologically budh is bastared son of Jupiter by Moon. So> Budh> > > is> > > > > > > rival to moon not to Jupiter.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pt. Lalkitabee> > > > > > >> > > > > > > V.Shukla> > > > > > > Mb. 09812020001> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , kulbir bance> > > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected vijay ji, the way u have related mythology to> > > explain> > > > > this> > > > > > > > condition is heartening. That's what discussion is meant> to> > > be.> > > > > > There> > > > > > > > is one more condition about this bhed of parentage. I> shall> > > > > > hopefully> > > > > > > > find it and post it soon. U and varun ji are right bhed> > > doesn't> > > > > > > > necessarily mean bastardness. It includes divine blessing.> > > Some> > > > > > > > treatment. Change in time of birth, place of birth.> Unexpected> > > > > > > > circumstances. Help or hinderance from unexpected sources.> > > Birth> > > > > of> > > > > > > > some ancestor. The list is endless. The one i know the> parents> > > > > went> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > for prenatal test. Doctor told that it was a male child.> The> > > > > parents> > > > > > > > didn't want a girl child but ultimately the girl child was> > > born.> > > > I> > > > > > > > accept ur approach. Now lets find about the another> condition> > > > > also.> > > > > > > > Regards. Kulbir.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 3/22/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The complete line is as under :> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > LK-1941 version, pg 147.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Ease shaks ki pedaish mein bhed hoga, jisko jahir karne> > > mein> > > > > uski> > > > > > > apni> > > > > > > > > juban mein bhi thatelepan ka sabut hoga "> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This clearly means that if the person has mercury in 9th> > > house> > > > > and> > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > hammering in speech than only their could be doubt in> his> > > > birth> > > > > > else> > > > > > > > > not.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > It is more explained in LK-1952 (english.pg.534):> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > An egg (of imitation) is born in H.No.9, whose inner> > > condition> > > > > > will> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > revealed by H.No. 11. Conduct of mercury in H.No. 9 will> be> > > > > > revealed> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > the planet in H.No. 11.> > > > > > > > > If H.No.11 is blank,than mercury act as very malefic and> > > could> > > > > > > deride> > > > > > > > > father's relation with mother.> > > > > > > > > Moon or ketu or jupiter in H.No.11 will make lucky,> wealthy,> > > > > > > religious,> > > > > > > > > and long life.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > Secret of mercury can be known thought the mathematical> > > > > > calculation> > > > > > > > > given in Lk-1942 pg. 187.> > > > > > > > > The net result of calculation will show the final house> > > effect> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > nature of mercury in the chart.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The malefic effect of mercury in H No.9 is like a bat> > > > > (chamkadarh)> > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > loss of wealth & health (short age).> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The best remedies suggested is> > > > > > > > > 1)Piercing the nose.> > > > > > > > > 2)To keep round iron ball with red color coated.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The explaination of remedies will be provided by the> more> > > > > learned> > > > > > > person> > > > > > > > > in this group.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > > * *> > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If we go to mythology, mercury is the 'bustard' son of> > > > jupiter,> > > > > > moon> > > > > > > > > eloped 'Tara' the wife of jupiter, thus mercury was> born.> > > > > > > > > Later Jupiter after seeing the repentance of mercury> > > accepted> > > > > him> > > > > > as> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > student.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > May be relation of mercury with 9th house (father and> guru)> > > > > > > indicate> > > > > > > > > this possibilty.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This mythology can be understand in other meaning also.> > > > > > > > > Jupiter is wisdom (truth) itself, Tara (wife also star)> is> > > the> > > > > > power> > > > > > > > > behind that wisdom, whenever flickering of mind (moon)> will> > > > > occur> > > > > > > (Tara> > > > > > > > > runs away with moon), only imitation (false) of> knowledge> > > will> > > > > > occur> > > > > > > ie> > > > > > > > > mercury will be born. It simply means that he will be> very> > > > good> > > > > at> > > > > > > > > communication and speech but indept knowledge will be> > > lacking.> > > > > So> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > becoming the good student is the only way to become a> good> > > > guru.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > 09214502239.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ,> "heartzthief54"> > > > > > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Varun Jee & Other Members,> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Agar kisi kee samajh mein yeh aye ki BUDH khana no 9> wale> > > ki> > > > > > > paidaish> > > > > > > > >> mein koi bhed hoga, kripya mujh ko samjhaane ka prayas> > > > > > > karein.Bahut> > > > > > > > >> meharbani hogi.> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> MAHAJAN> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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