Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dear Friends, When two planets are together in a house it gives different meaning. If these planets aspect each other it is different yoga because one additional house is introduced. G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer Sent: Thursday, 26 February, 2009 5:53:37 PMLK discussion group Lagan's drishti on 11th house Respected Varun ji, Sadar Pranam If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is mentoin in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title of khana no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO MUBARAK) if there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to 11th house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander grahan.then remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore this farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a major effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person will b suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for this.please explain some more on this farmaan .. With regards kunwar vishal Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Respected Varun ji please also explain about remedies. with regards kunwar vishal , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Vishal ji, > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, irrespective of > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will aspect the > 11th house. > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the 11th with > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will aspect > Ketu. > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', sudden > attack. > > In my view: > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and not an > aspect. > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely to > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of ketu like > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, then the > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is > mentoin > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title of > khana > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO MUBARAK) if > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to > 11th > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > grahan.then > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore this > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a > major > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person > will b > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > With regards > > > > kunwar vishal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Respected Goel saheb, Yes sir. You are very right. Regards, Varun Trivedi , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > When two planets are together in a house it gives different meaning. > If these planets aspect each other it is different yoga because one additional house is introduced. > �G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer > > Thursday, 26 February, 2009 5:53:37 PM > LK discussion group Lagan's drishti on 11th house > > > Respected Varun ji, > ��������������������������ï¿\ ½ Sadar Pranam > ��������������������������ï¿\ ½ï¿½ï¿½ If there is masnui mars (sun+mer or Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is mentoin in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title of khana no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO MUBARAK) if there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to 11th house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander grahan.then remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore this farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a major effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person will b suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > With regards > kunwar vishal > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Respected Vishal ji, You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would you propose? We could take up from there. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " vishalastrologer " <vishalastrologer wrote: > > Respected Varun ji > > please also explain about remedies. > > with regards > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, irrespective of > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will aspect the > > 11th house. > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the 11th with > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will aspect > > Ketu. > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', sudden > > attack. > > > > In my view: > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and not an > > aspect. > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely to > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of ketu like > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, then the > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is > > mentoin > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title of > > khana > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO MUBARAK) if > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to > > 11th > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > grahan.then > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore this > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a > > major > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person > > will b > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Respected Varun Ji, as u descripbe in this situation ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by ketu.becaz 1:person has intreput education 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu) 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his son enter his 4th year so all these situation tells about if the proper remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer moro and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan chhedan.i can understand only that. With Regards Kunwar Vishal , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Vishal ji, > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would you > propose? We could take up from there. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , " vishalastrologer " > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > please also explain about > remedies. > > > > with regards > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > irrespective of > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will aspect the > > > 11th house. > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the 11th > with > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will aspect > > > Ketu. > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', > sudden > > > attack. > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and not an > > > aspect. > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely to > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of ketu > like > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, then > the > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is > > > mentoin > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title > of > > > khana > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > MUBARAK) if > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to > > > 11th > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > > grahan.then > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore > this > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a > > > major > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person > > > will b > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Vishal ji, As the indications show, he would need an upaya for moon also. Apart from kaan chhedan and feeding milk to dogs for Ketu, I would advise that the native should also use a marble chakala [ platform for rolling roti]. It would be better if the chakala is of black and white colour. For the moon the best thing would be that he keeps with him a small square piece of silver given to him by his mother as her blessings to him. If possible, he should use a silver tumbler for dinking milk or water. He should avoid the karaks of mercury. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " vishalastrologer " <vishalastrologer wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji, > > as u descripbe in this situation > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by ketu.becaz > > 1:person has intreput education > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his son > enter his 4th year > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer moro > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > With Regards > > Kunwar Vishal > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would you > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > please also explain about > > remedies. > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > irrespective of > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will aspect the > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the 11th > > with > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will aspect > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', > > sudden > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and not an > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely to > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of ketu > > like > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, then > > the > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is > > > > mentoin > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title > > of > > > > khana > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to > > > > 11th > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > > > grahan.then > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore > > this > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a > > > > major > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person > > > > will b > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Varun ji thanks for suggesting the remedies. With regards Kunwar Vishal , " vishalastrologer " <vishalastrologer wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji, > > as u descripbe in this situation > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by ketu.becaz > > 1:person has intreput education > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his son > enter his 4th year > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer moro > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > With Regards > > Kunwar Vishal > > > , " varun_trvd " > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would you > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > please also explain about > > remedies. > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > irrespective of > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will aspect the > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the 11th > > with > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will aspect > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', > > sudden > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and not an > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely to > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of ketu > > like > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, then > > the > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is > > > > mentoin > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title > > of > > > > khana > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to > > > > 11th > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > > > grahan.then > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore > > this > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a > > > > major > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person > > > > will b > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dear Vishal ji, Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to nahin rakh rakhi? Thanks Regards Umesh Sharma , " vishalastrologer " <vishalastrologer wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji, > > as u descripbe in this situation > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by ketu.becaz > > 1:person has intreput education > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his son > enter his 4th year > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer moro > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > With Regards > > Kunwar Vishal > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would you > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > please also explain about > > remedies. > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > irrespective of > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will aspect the > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the 11th > > with > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will aspect > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', > > sudden > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and not an > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely to > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of ketu > > like > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, then > > the > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " vishalastrologer " > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th house.this is > > > > mentoin > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the title > > of > > > > khana > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu in 11th > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will see to > > > > 11th > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > > > grahan.then > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we ignore > > this > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we miss a > > > > major > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise person > > > > will b > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done for > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Umesh ji, Sadar Pranam sir,ketli chandi ki nahi magar chini mitti ya kisi aur metal ki ho sakti hai.wah kya baat hai With Regards Kunwar Vishal , "Umesh Sharma" <mudit982001 wrote:>> Dear Vishal ji,> > > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to nahin> rakh rakhi?> > Thanks> > Regards> > Umesh Sharma> > > > > > > > > > , "vishalastrologer"> vishalastrologer@ wrote:> >> > Respected Varun Ji,> >> > as u descripbe in this> situation> > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by> ketu.becaz> >> > 1:person has intreput education> >> > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu)> >> > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu)> >> > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg> >> > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his> son> > enter his 4th year> >> > so all these situation tells about if the proper> > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer> moro> > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan> > chhedan.i can understand only that.> >> > With Regards> >> > Kunwar Vishal> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "varun_trvd"> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Vishal ji,> > >> > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would> you> > > propose? We could take up from there.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Varun Trivedi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "vishalastrologer"> > > vishalastrologer@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Varun ji> > > >> > > > please also explain about> > > remedies.> > > >> > > > with regards> > > >> > > > kunwar vishal> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars,> > > irrespective of> > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will> aspect the> > > > > 11th house.> > > > >> > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the> 11th> > > with> > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will> aspect> > > > > Ketu.> > > > >> > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot',> > > sudden> > > > > attack.> > > > >> > > > > In my view:> > > > >> > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra> > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and> not an> > > > > aspect.> > > > >> > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely> to> > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of> ketu> > > like> > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc.> > > > >> > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu,> then> > > the> > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- In> , "vishalastrologer"> > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sadar Pranam> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or> > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th> house.this is> > > > > mentoin> > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the> title> > > of> > > > > khana> > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO> > > MUBARAK) if> > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu> in 11th> > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will> see to> > > > > 11th> > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander> > > > > grahan.then> > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we> ignore> > > this> > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we> miss a> > > > > major> > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise> person> > > > > will b> > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done> for> > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan .> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards> > > > > >> > > > > > kunwar vishal> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Umesh ji, please define the logic of ketli and what should do with ketli With Regards, Kunwar Vishal , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001 wrote: > > Dear Vishal ji, > > > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to nahin > rakh rakhi? > > Thanks > > Regards > > Umesh Sharma > > > , " vishalastrologer " > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > as u descripbe in this > situation > > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by > ketu.becaz > > > > 1:person has intreput education > > > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg > > > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his > son > > enter his 4th year > > > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer > moro > > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan > > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > > > With Regards > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would > you > > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > > > please also explain about > > > remedies. > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > > irrespective of > > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will > aspect the > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the > 11th > > > with > > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will > aspect > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', > > > sudden > > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and > not an > > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely > to > > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of > ketu > > > like > > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, > then > > > the > > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th > house.this is > > > > > mentoin > > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the > title > > > of > > > > > khana > > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu > in 11th > > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will > see to > > > > > 11th > > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > > > > grahan.then > > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we > ignore > > > this > > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we > miss a > > > > > major > > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise > person > > > > > will b > > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done > for > > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dear Vishal Ji Plz clear my doubts. If answer is in yes, than remove it. Thanks & Regards Umesh Sharma , " vishalastrologer " <vishalastrologer wrote: > > Respected Umesh ji, > > please define the logic of > ketli and what should do with ketli > > > With Regards, > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vishal ji, > > > > > > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to nahin > > rakh rakhi? > > > > Thanks > > > > Regards > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > > > as u descripbe in this > > situation > > > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by > > ketu.becaz > > > > > > 1:person has intreput education > > > > > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son (ketu) > > > > > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg > > > > > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his > > son > > > enter his 4th year > > > > > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > > > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer > > moro > > > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan > > > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would > > you > > > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " vishalastrologer " > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > > > > > please also explain about > > > > remedies. > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > > > irrespective of > > > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will > > aspect the > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the > > 11th > > > > with > > > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will > > aspect > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot', > > > > sudden > > > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra > > > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and > > not an > > > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely > > to > > > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of > > ketu > > > > like > > > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, > > then > > > > the > > > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th > > house.this is > > > > > > mentoin > > > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the > > title > > > > of > > > > > > khana > > > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu > > in 11th > > > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will > > see to > > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander > > > > > > grahan.then > > > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we > > ignore > > > > this > > > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we > > miss a > > > > > > major > > > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise > > person > > > > > > will b > > > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done > > for > > > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Vishal ji, For moon house # 1 the book says : " chandi ke bartan mein budh ki naali ka manhoos phal degi; maslan chandi ka ganga sagar ya kettle jiske aage pani nikalne ke liye naali lagi hoti hai ; aise bartan ka budh ki umra [teve wale ki 34 sal] se istemal shuru karne par tevewale ki maata ki sehat , tevewale ki 48 sal umra tak mandi hogi ; vo na sirf raat-din dukhiya balki andhi tak ho sakti hai" [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 371 ] Therefore in any utensil which has a naali attached for pouring water etc such a utensil gets associated with mercury. If a person with moon in the first house owns or keeps in the house any utensil of silver with a naali would amount to moon + mercury. I believe this condition of the naali in this context should hold good for all utensils whether made of silver or any other material. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer wrote:>> Respected Umesh ji,> > please define the logic of> ketli and what should do with ketli> > > With Regards,> > Kunwar Vishal> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Umesh Sharma"> mudit982001@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vishal ji,> >> >> > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to nahin> > rakh rakhi?> >> > Thanks> >> > Regards> >> > Umesh Sharma> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "vishalastrologer"> > vishalastrologer@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Varun Ji,> > >> > > as u descripbe in this> > situation> > > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by> > ketu.becaz> > >> > > 1:person has intreput education> > >> > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu)> > >> > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu)> > >> > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left leg> > >> > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his> > son> > > enter his 4th year> > >> > > so all these situation tells about if the proper> > > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer> > moro> > > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with milk.2:kaan> > > chhedan.i can understand only that.> > >> > > With Regards> > >> > > Kunwar Vishal> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "varun_trvd"> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > >> > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would> > you> > > > propose? We could take up from there.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "vishalastrologer"> > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Varun ji> > > > >> > > > > please also explain about> > > > remedies.> > > > >> > > > > with regards> > > > >> > > > > kunwar vishal> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars,> > > > irrespective of> > > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will> > aspect the> > > > > > 11th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the> > 11th> > > > with> > > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will> > aspect> > > > > > Ketu.> > > > > >> > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak chot',> > > > sudden> > > > > > attack.> > > > > >> > > > > > In my view:> > > > > >> > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a 'chandra> > > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and> > not an> > > > > > aspect.> > > > > >> > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely> > to> > > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of> > ketu> > > > like> > > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc.> > > > > >> > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu,> > then> > > > the> > > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> > , "vishalastrologer"> > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sadar Pranam> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or> > > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th> > house.this is> > > > > > mentoin> > > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the> > title> > > > of> > > > > > khana> > > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO> > > > MUBARAK) if> > > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu> > in 11th> > > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will> > see to> > > > > > 11th> > > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make chander> > > > > > grahan.then> > > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we> > ignore> > > > this> > > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we> > miss a> > > > > > major> > > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise> > person> > > > > > will b> > > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done> > for> > > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > With regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > kunwar vishal> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Varun ji, very very thanx for telling the logic.before this post i know only about silver utensil with naali is harmful.but as u describe , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > For moon house # 1 the book says : > > > > " chandi ke bartan mein budh ki naali ka manhoos phal degi; maslan > chandi ka ganga sagar ya kettle jiske aage pani nikalne ke liye naali > lagi hoti hai ; aise bartan ka budh ki umra [teve wale ki 34 sal] se > istemal shuru karne par tevewale ki maata ki sehat , tevewale ki 48 sal > umra tak mandi hogi ; vo na sirf raat-din dukhiya balki andhi tak ho > sakti hai " [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 371 ] > > > > Therefore in any utensil which has a naali attached for pouring water > etc such a utensil gets associated with mercury. > > > > If a person with moon in the first house owns or keeps in the house any > utensil of silver with a naali would amount to moon + mercury. > > > > I believe this condition of the naali in this context should hold good > for all utensils whether made of silver or any other material. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > Respected Umesh ji, > > > > please define the logic of > > ketli and what should do with ketli > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > mudit982001@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to nahin > > > rakh rakhi? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > > > > > as u descripbe in this > > > situation > > > > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by > > > ketu.becaz > > > > > > > > 1:person has intreput education > > > > > > > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > > > > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > > > > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the left > leg > > > > > > > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his > > > son > > > > enter his 4th year > > > > > > > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > > > > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will suffer > > > moro > > > > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with > milk.2:kaan > > > > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies would > > > you > > > > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > please also explain about > > > > > remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > > > > irrespective of > > > > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will > > > aspect the > > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in the > > > 11th > > > > > with > > > > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon will > > > aspect > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak > chot', > > > > > sudden > > > > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to a > 'chandra > > > > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and > > > not an > > > > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is likely > > > to > > > > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants of > > > ketu > > > > > like > > > > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed ketu, > > > then > > > > > the > > > > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th > > > house.this is > > > > > > > mentoin > > > > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under the > > > title > > > > > of > > > > > > > khana > > > > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > > > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and ketu > > > in 11th > > > > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon will > > > see to > > > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make > chander > > > > > > > grahan.then > > > > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we > > > ignore > > > > > this > > > > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and we > > > miss a > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured otherwise > > > person > > > > > > > will b > > > > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b done > > > for > > > > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Respected Umesh ji yes,ketli of almunium was there not of silver as desribe in the description of moon in 1st house.but there are also ketli of bone china With Regards Kunwar vishal , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001 wrote: > > Dear Vishal Ji > Plz clear my doubts. > If answer is in yes, than remove it. > Thanks & Regards > Umesh Sharma > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > Respected Umesh ji, > > > > please define the logic > of > > ketli and what should do with ketli > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to > nahin > > > rakh rakhi? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > > > > > as u descripbe in this > > > situation > > > > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by > > > ketu.becaz > > > > > > > > 1:person has intreput education > > > > > > > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > > > > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son > (ketu) > > > > > > > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the > left leg > > > > > > > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his > > > son > > > > enter his 4th year > > > > > > > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > > > > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will > suffer > > > moro > > > > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with > milk.2:kaan > > > > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies > would > > > you > > > > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > please also explain about > > > > > remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > > > > irrespective of > > > > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will > > > aspect the > > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in > the > > > 11th > > > > > with > > > > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon > will > > > aspect > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak > chot', > > > > > sudden > > > > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to > a 'chandra > > > > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and > > > not an > > > > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is > likely > > > to > > > > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants > of > > > ketu > > > > > like > > > > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed > ketu, > > > then > > > > > the > > > > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th > > > house.this is > > > > > > > mentoin > > > > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under > the > > > title > > > > > of > > > > > > > khana > > > > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > > > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and > ketu > > > in 11th > > > > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon > will > > > see to > > > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make > chander > > > > > > > grahan.then > > > > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we > > > ignore > > > > > this > > > > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and > we > > > miss a > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured > otherwise > > > person > > > > > > > will b > > > > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b > done > > > for > > > > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dear Vishal Ji, Varun Ji had explain very clearly about the logic. In this context i take another metal as Almunium, Steel also. So remove that cattle from the house . Bone china's cattle not harmful. Thanks & Regards Umesh Sharma , " vishalastrologer " <vishalastrologer wrote: > > > Respected Umesh ji > > yes,ketli of almunium was there not > of silver as desribe in the description of moon in 1st house.but there > are also ketli of bone china > > With Regards > > Kunwar vishal > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vishal Ji > > Plz clear my doubts. > > If answer is in yes, than remove it. > > Thanks & Regards > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Umesh ji, > > > > > > please define the logic > > of > > > ketli and what should do with ketli > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kya es vayakati ne ghar main GanaJali ya metal ki koi ketli to > > nahin > > > > rakh rakhi? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " vishalastrologer " > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > > > > > > > as u descripbe in this > > > > situation > > > > > ketu will b effected.you r right.but moon is also effected by > > > > ketu.becaz > > > > > > > > > > 1:person has intreput education > > > > > > > > > > 2:finance has go down after the birth of son(ketu) > > > > > > > > > > 3: respect & status has also go down after the birth of son > > (ketu) > > > > > > > > > > 4:son has also suffered in his 2nd year by fracture in the > > left leg > > > > > > > > > > 5:father was bitten by dog & suffered by weak eyeside when his > > > > son > > > > > enter his 4th year > > > > > > > > > > so all these situation tells about if the proper > > > > > remedies of this equation is not done then moon & ketu will > > suffer > > > > moro > > > > > and more.remedies should b done of serving the dog with > > milk.2:kaan > > > > > chhedan.i can understand only that. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have thought of the remedies too. What remedies > > would > > > > you > > > > > > propose? We could take up from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please also explain about > > > > > > remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right. If a kundali has a masnuyee mars, > > > > > > irrespective of > > > > > > > > malefic or banefic, then it is said that the Lagna will > > > > aspect the > > > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said that moon is in the lagna and ketu in > > the > > > > 11th > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > a masnuyee Mars formed in the horoscope, then the Moon > > will > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is known in the Lal Kitab a situation of 'achanak > > chot', > > > > > > sudden > > > > > > > > attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An aspect of the moon on the ketu will not lead to > > a 'chandra > > > > > > > > grahan'. It is the 'yuti' which will cause a 'grahan' and > > > > not an > > > > > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this situation, I believe, it is the Ketu which is > > likely > > > > to > > > > > > > > suffer; which means the son ; or the other significants > > of > > > > ketu > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > the problem of spine, joints, urine etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, if there are any indications of a harrassed > > ketu, > > > > then > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > upaya for Ketu will have to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " vishalastrologer " > > > > > > > > vishalastrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is masnui mars(sun+mer or > > > > > > > > > Sun+sat) in the chart.then lagan's aspect on 11th > > > > house.this is > > > > > > > > mentoin > > > > > > > > > in LK 1952 (Farmaan no 8, description is given under > > the > > > > title > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > khana > > > > > > > > > no 1 ,SHAH SALAMT KA TAKHTE BAADSHAHI YA HAZUR KI KADMO > > > > > > MUBARAK) if > > > > > > > > > there is moon in 1st house,sun+mer in 7th house and > > ketu > > > > in 11th > > > > > > > > > house.then above codition is fulfilled.it means moon > > will > > > > see to > > > > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > > house means to say moon will add ketu. it will make > > chander > > > > > > > > grahan.then > > > > > > > > > remedies of this combination should b done or not.if we > > > > ignore > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > farmaan then we will say moon is in good condition.and > > we > > > > miss a > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > effect of chander grahan which should be cured > > otherwise > > > > person > > > > > > > > will b > > > > > > > > > suffering till the age of ketu.what remedies should b > > done > > > > for > > > > > > > > > this.please explain some more on this farmaan . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kunwar vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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