Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Varun ji, saturn 8 mandi halat pt. no. 3 says that such native's birth will preceed with as many deaths in the family as the accompanying planets are there. So the period of deaths is the period of conception till birth or can it extend to even before conception. Regards. Kulbir. -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, Yes, you are right the Book does say so. This is a very strong statement. Normally one should be careful about such statements and should not take them literally. This result can be modified by other planetary placements in the horoscope. In my opinion the statements extends to before conception also. Let us see it this way, if a son is born to day and he doesn't have any planet in the 8th house, the second son who has two planets with Saturn in the 8th, will be born only after two people had died in the family. This might be a few years later than when the earlier son was born. In other words there can be a gap of a few years between the two sons. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > saturn 8 mandi halat pt. no. 3 says that such native's birth > will preceed with as many deaths in the family as the accompanying > planets are there. So the period of deaths is the period of conception > till birth or can it extend to even before conception. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, I am certain that the moon would be in the 8th house after bhav spashtha and would be considred as in conjunction with Saturn in the 8th house. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > such strong statements need to be understood by a seasoned > person's guidance. Thanks u r here for that. Actually i came across a > tewa with saturn 8. Moon is in 9th house at 00:37 deg. The grandfather > passed away between the period of birth of his sister and him. But the > great grandfather passed away say about 2 months after he was > conceived. Since moon has not even passed one degree and being a fast > moving planet. I tried to use this as a darusti tool. So is it that > moon is in 8 with saturn. > > Regards. > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > Yes, you are right the Book does say so. This is a very strong > > statement. Normally one should be careful about such statements and > > should not take them literally. This result can be modified by other > > planetary placements in the horoscope. > > > > In my opinion the statements extends to before conception also. Let > > us see it this way, if a son is born to day and he doesn't have any > > planet in the 8th house, the second son who has two planets with > > Saturn in the 8th, will be born only after two people had died in > > the family. This might be a few years later than when the earlier > > son was born. In other words there can be a gap of a few years > > between the two sons. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > >> Varun ji, > >> > >> saturn 8 mandi halat pt. no. 3 says that such native's birth > >> will preceed with as many deaths in the family as the accompanying > >> planets are there. So the period of deaths is the period of > > conception > >> till birth or can it extend to even before conception. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Kulbir. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 varun ji, the bhav spasht has both moon and sun alongwith saturn in 8. So this explains 2 deaths. Now i see the logic in pt bhooshanpriya ji's stress on bhav spasht. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/16/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > I am certain that the moon would be in the 8th house after bhav > spashtha and would be considred as in conjunction with Saturn in the > 8th house. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Varun ji, >> >> such strong statements need to be understood by a seasoned >> person's guidance. Thanks u r here for that. Actually i came > across a >> tewa with saturn 8. Moon is in 9th house at 00:37 deg. The > grandfather >> passed away between the period of birth of his sister and him. But > the >> great grandfather passed away say about 2 months after he was >> conceived. Since moon has not even passed one degree and being a > fast >> moving planet. I tried to use this as a darusti tool. So is it that >> moon is in 8 with saturn. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kulbir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/16/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, >> > >> > Yes, you are right the Book does say so. This is a very strong >> > statement. Normally one should be careful about such statements > and >> > should not take them literally. This result can be modified by > other >> > planetary placements in the horoscope. >> > >> > In my opinion the statements extends to before conception also. > Let >> > us see it this way, if a son is born to day and he doesn't have > any >> > planet in the 8th house, the second son who has two planets with >> > Saturn in the 8th, will be born only after two people had died in >> > the family. This might be a few years later than when the earlier >> > son was born. In other words there can be a gap of a few years >> > between the two sons. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , kulbir bance >> > <kulbirbance@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Varun ji, >> >> >> >> saturn 8 mandi halat pt. no. 3 says that such native's birth >> >> will preceed with as many deaths in the family as the > accompanying >> >> planets are there. So the period of deaths is the period of >> > conception >> >> till birth or can it extend to even before conception. >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Kulbir. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, Bhav spashtha is a mathematical tool for fine tuning and is very handy in astrological analysis. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > varun ji, > > > the bhav spasht has both moon and sun alongwith saturn in 8. > So this explains 2 deaths. Now i see the logic in pt bhooshanpriya ji's stress on bhav spasht. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > > > > On 2/16/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > I am certain that the moon would be in the 8th house after bhav > > spashtha and would be considred as in conjunction with Saturn in the > > 8th house. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > >> Varun ji, > >> > >> such strong statements need to be understood by a seasoned > >> person's guidance. Thanks u r here for that. Actually i came > > across a > >> tewa with saturn 8. Moon is in 9th house at 00:37 deg. The > > grandfather > >> passed away between the period of birth of his sister and him. But > > the > >> great grandfather passed away say about 2 months after he was > >> conceived. Since moon has not even passed one degree and being a > > fast > >> moving planet. I tried to use this as a darusti tool. So is it that > >> moon is in 8 with saturn. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Kulbir > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/16/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, > >> > > >> > Yes, you are right the Book does say so. This is a very strong > >> > statement. Normally one should be careful about such statements > > and > >> > should not take them literally. This result can be modified by > > other > >> > planetary placements in the horoscope. > >> > > >> > In my opinion the statements extends to before conception also. > > Let > >> > us see it this way, if a son is born to day and he doesn't have > > any > >> > planet in the 8th house, the second son who has two planets with > >> > Saturn in the 8th, will be born only after two people had died in > >> > the family. This might be a few years later than when the earlier > >> > son was born. In other words there can be a gap of a few years > >> > between the two sons. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Varun Trivedi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , kulbir bance > >> > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Varun ji, > >> >> > >> >> saturn 8 mandi halat pt. no. 3 says that such native's birth > >> >> will preceed with as many deaths in the family as the > > accompanying > >> >> planets are there. So the period of deaths is the period of > >> > conception > >> >> till birth or can it extend to even before conception. > >> >> > >> >> Regards. > >> >> > >> >> Kulbir. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Sent from my mobile device > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Respected Goel saheb, We use Ptolemaic or modus equalis system of Bhav spashtha. Initially we had used the Porphyry's system because this was the one we learnt first when we worked out the Ascendant and the Dasham manually. Later we used the Lahiri ephemeris for it. Through our experience we found that the equal house system suits us best. With respect and regards, Varun Trivedi , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Trivedi, > There about 12 methods of CONSTRUCTING THE BHAVA chart, > which method do you recommend. > Regards, > Â G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > varun_trvd <varun_trvd > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 7:42:33 PM > LK discussion group Re: Saturn 8 > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > I am certain that the moon would be in the 8th house after bhav > spashtha and would be considred as in conjunction with Saturn in the > 8th house. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance@ ...> wrote: > > > > Varun ji, > > > > such strong statements need to be understood by a seasoned > > person's guidance. Thanks u r here for that. Actually i came > across a > > tewa with saturn 8. Moon is in 9th house at 00:37 deg. The > grandfather > > passed away between the period of birth of his sister and him. But > the > > great grandfather passed away say about 2 months after he was > > conceived. Since moon has not even passed one degree and being a > fast > > moving planet. I tried to use this as a darusti tool. So is it that > > moon is in 8 with saturn. > > > > Regards. > > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > Yes, you are right the Book does say so. This is a very strong > > > statement. Normally one should be careful about such statements > and > > > should not take them literally. This result can be modified by > other > > > planetary placements in the horoscope. > > > > > > In my opinion the statements extends to before conception also. > Let > > > us see it this way, if a son is born to day and he doesn't have > any > > > planet in the 8th house, the second son who has two planets with > > > Saturn in the 8th, will be born only after two people had died in > > > the family. This might be a few years later than when the earlier > > > son was born. In other words there can be a gap of a few years > > > between the two sons. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > <kulbirbance@ > wrote: > > >> > > >> Varun ji, > > >> > > >> saturn 8 mandi halat pt. no. 3 says that such native's birth > > >> will preceed with as many deaths in the family as the > accompanying > > >> planets are there. So the period of deaths is the period of > > > conception > > >> till birth or can it extend to even before conception. > > >> > > >> Regards. > > >> > > >> Kulbir. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Sent from my mobile device > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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