Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 sir can we have the full details of ur kundali. kulbir bains lalkitab , " Himanshu Porwal " <himpor wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to understand what could be the implications to the natives > life if he has saturn and moon in the ninth house. > > i remember, that this combination is very bad for the natives luck and > in lal kitab something similar to this is saaid " that even if native > finds amrit it will turn into vish (poison), if the saturn and moon > are in ninth house " . > > IS this correct? > > what are the remedies suggested for that? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 lalkitab , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: >dear sir this is a science split up data is not work out pl do give fullbirth details name given by father/mother wt r u where r u family details with specic requirement & how it happened urs sarma > sir can we have the full details of ur kundali. > kulbir bains > > lalkitab , " Himanshu Porwal " <himpor@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to understand what could be the implications to the natives > > life if he has saturn and moon in the ninth house. > > > > i remember, that this combination is very bad for the natives luck > and > > in lal kitab something similar to this is saaid " that even if native > > finds amrit it will turn into vish (poison), if the saturn and moon > > are in ninth house " . > > > > IS this correct? > > > > what are the remedies suggested for that? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 the details of kundali are: name : himanshu porwal father : dinesh k porwal DOB: 18th april 1975, 8.05 PM at udaipur rajasthan the kundali details are: 1 house -- 2 house -- Rahu 3 house -- 4 house -- 5 house -- mangal 6 house -- guru 7 house -- surya, budh 8 house -- ketu, venus (shukra) 9 house -- moon , saturn 10 house -- 11 house -- 12 house -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Respected Himanshu ji I think the person with this combination(saturn+moon in 9th house) is so much double minded,confused & depressed. whether this is true in your case? Thanx , Himanshu Porwal <himpor wrote: > > Saturn and moon in the 9th house is considered as a bad combination in the natives chart ... > > the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the positives will also turn negetive and will give loss . > > what other impact does this combination has on the native and what are the uapays ... >  Himanshu Porwal > Contact No. +91 90522 25405 > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Respected Himanshu ji, It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money matters. " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho " It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even if he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is missing in his life. The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes. Regards, Varun Trivedi , Himanshu Porwal <himpor wrote: > > Saturn and moon in the 9th house is considered as a bad combination in the natives chart ... > > the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the positives will also turn negetive and will give loss . > > what other impact does this combination has on the native and what are the uapays ... >  Himanshu Porwal > Contact No. +91 90522 25405 > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Varun ji, regarding saturn plus moon = masnoi ketu Armaan on page 212 last line says that whenever actual ketu is combined with a masnoi ketu (malefic or benefic)i.e. irrespective of nature , it will render mangal nek powerless though it might be double in power. But on page 168 Line no 4 says that benefic ketu = saturn+venus will make mangal nek doubly powerful. Why this contridiction. On 2/4/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Himanshu ji, > > It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will > have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money > matters. > > " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho " > > > It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind > will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even if > he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is > missing in his life. > > The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Himanshu Porwal > <himpor wrote: >> >> Saturn and moon in� the 9th house is considered as a bad combination > in the natives chart ... >> >> the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the > positives� will also turn negetive and will give loss . >> >> what other impact� does this combination has on the native� and what > are the uapays ... >> � Himanshu Porwal >> Contact No. +91 90522 25405 >> >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, There seems to be a mistake in the last line of 1940 urdu ed page 213. 'do guna mangal nek ki taqat ko bhi barbad karenge' I believe that here the word should have been 'mangal bud' instead of 'mangal nek' I quote the following: mangal ka ketu se talluk: do ketu { ek to asal ketu; doosara uchcha masnuyee ketu yani shukra shani mushtarka ya neech ketu masnuyee ketu chandra shani mushtarka} ikatthe hi mushtarka hon ya vaham drishti mein hon, to mangal do guna nek hoga, lekin agar mangal bud ho to ketu mushtarka { asal ketu va masnuyee ketu, khwah uchcha masnuyee khwa neech masnuyee} do guna managal bud ki taqat ko bhi barbad karke use nek kar denge" [ 1942 urdu ed; page 325 ; lines 21-24 ] Identical statement is in the 1952 urdu ed; page 888 ; lines 1-4. Since the word is 'mangal bud' and not 'mangal nek' in both the 1942 book and the 1952 book, I take it as 'mangal bud' Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Varun ji,> > regarding saturn plus moon = masnoi ketu Armaan on page 212> last line says that whenever actual ketu is combined with a masnoi> ketu (malefic or benefic)i.e. irrespective of nature , it will render> mangal nek powerless though it might be double in power. But on page> 168 Line no 4 says that benefic ketu = saturn+venus will make mangal> nek doubly powerful. Why this contridiction.> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/09, varun_trvd varun_trvd wrote:> > Respected Himanshu ji,> >> > It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will> > have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money> > matters.> >> > " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho"> >> >> > It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind> > will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even if> > he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is> > missing in his life.> >> > The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes.> >> > Regards,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , Himanshu Porwal> > himpor@ wrote:> >>> >> Saturn and moon in� the 9th house is considered as a bad combination> > in the natives chart ...> >>> >> the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the> > positives� will also turn negetive and will give loss .> >>> >> what other impact� does this combination has on the native� and what> > are the uapays ...> >> � Himanshu Porwal> >> Contact No. +91 90522 25405> >>> >>> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger./invite/> >>> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Varun ji, so this again approves that there are mistakes in the original urdu books also. Hence it is better that word nek on page 213 last line should be corrected as badh. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/4/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > There seems to be a mistake in the last line of 1940 urdu ed page 213. > > 'do guna mangal nek ki taqat ko bhi barbad karenge' > > I believe that here the word should have been 'mangal bud' instead of > 'mangal nek' > > I quote the following: > > mangal ka ketu se talluk: > > do ketu { ek to asal ketu; doosara uchcha masnuyee ketu yani shukra > shani mushtarka ya neech ketu masnuyee ketu chandra shani mushtarka} > ikatthe hi mushtarka hon ya vaham drishti mein hon, to mangal do guna > nek hoga, lekin agar mangal bud ho to ketu mushtarka { asal ketu va > masnuyee ketu, khwah uchcha masnuyee khwa neech masnuyee} do guna > managal bud ki taqat ko bhi barbad karke use nek kar denge " > > [ 1942 urdu ed; page 325 ; lines 21-24 ] > > Identical statement is in the 1952 urdu ed; page 888 ; lines 1-4. > > Since the word is 'mangal bud' and not 'mangal nek' in both the 1942 > book and the 1952 book, I take it as 'mangal bud' > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Varun ji, >> >> regarding saturn plus moon = masnoi ketu Armaan on page 212 >> last line says that whenever actual ketu is combined with a masnoi >> ketu (malefic or benefic)i.e. irrespective of nature , it will render >> mangal nek powerless though it might be double in power. But on page >> 168 Line no 4 says that benefic ketu = saturn+venus will make mangal >> nek doubly powerful. Why this contridiction. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/09, varun_trvd varun_trvd wrote: >> > Respected Himanshu ji, >> > >> > It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will >> > have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money >> > matters. >> > >> > " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho " >> > >> > >> > It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind >> > will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even if >> > he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is >> > missing in his life. >> > >> > The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , Himanshu Porwal >> > himpor@ wrote: >> >> >> >> Saturn and moon in� the 9th house is considered as a bad > combination >> > in the natives chart ... >> >> >> >> the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the >> > positives� will also turn negetive and will give loss . >> >> >> >> what other impact� does this combination has on the > native� and what >> > are the uapays ... >> >> � Himanshu Porwal >> >> Contact No. +91 90522 25405 >> >> >> >> >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to >> > http://messenger./invite/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, We believe so till some one comes up with an explanation for this anamoly. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > so this again approves that there are mistakes in the > original urdu books also. Hence it is better that word nek on page 213 > last line should be corrected as badh. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > On 2/4/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > There seems to be a mistake in the last line of 1940 urdu ed page 213. > > > > 'do guna mangal nek ki taqat ko bhi barbad karenge' > > > > I believe that here the word should have been 'mangal bud' instead of > > 'mangal nek' > > > > I quote the following: > > > > mangal ka ketu se talluk: > > > > do ketu { ek to asal ketu; doosara uchcha masnuyee ketu yani shukra > > shani mushtarka ya neech ketu masnuyee ketu chandra shani mushtarka} > > ikatthe hi mushtarka hon ya vaham drishti mein hon, to mangal do guna > > nek hoga, lekin agar mangal bud ho to ketu mushtarka { asal ketu va > > masnuyee ketu, khwah uchcha masnuyee khwa neech masnuyee} do guna > > managal bud ki taqat ko bhi barbad karke use nek kar denge " > > > > [ 1942 urdu ed; page 325 ; lines 21-24 ] > > > > Identical statement is in the 1952 urdu ed; page 888 ; lines 1-4. > > > > Since the word is 'mangal bud' and not 'mangal nek' in both the 1942 > > book and the 1952 book, I take it as 'mangal bud' > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > >> Varun ji, > >> > >> regarding saturn plus moon = masnoi ketu Armaan on page 212 > >> last line says that whenever actual ketu is combined with a masnoi > >> ketu (malefic or benefic)i.e. irrespective of nature , it will render > >> mangal nek powerless though it might be double in power. But on page > >> 168 Line no 4 says that benefic ketu = saturn+venus will make mangal > >> nek doubly powerful. Why this contridiction. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/4/09, varun_trvd varun_trvd@ wrote: > >> > Respected Himanshu ji, > >> > > >> > It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will > >> > have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money > >> > matters. > >> > > >> > " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho " > >> > > >> > > >> > It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind > >> > will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even if > >> > he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is > >> > missing in his life. > >> > > >> > The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Varun Trivedi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , Himanshu Porwal > >> > himpor@ wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Saturn and moon in� the 9th house is considered as a bad > > combination > >> > in the natives chart ... > >> >> > >> >> the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the > >> > positives� will also turn negetive and will give loss . > >> >> > >> >> what other impact� does this combination has on the > > native� and what > >> > are the uapays ... > >> >> � Himanshu Porwal > >> >> Contact No. +91 90522 25405 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > >> > http://messenger./invite/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 hi, i would like to thank all the boarder for such a interactive discussion on the saturn+ moon combination in the 9th house. upays were discussed in detail. i still remember long back my visit to uncle at udaipur who sees horoscope based on lal kitab and he has shown me the book stating this malefic combination. i agree with u that native goes through the feeling that there is a something missing from the life, although money aspects are normal not good but not bad too. but i think the money in life, satisfaction with the life and other aspects belong to other planetory combination also. I would again like to thank all the senior members for providing there detailed opinion on topic. Regards himanshu , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Himanshu ji, > > It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will > have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money > matters. > > " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho " > > > It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind > will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even if > he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is > missing in his life. > > The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Himanshu Porwal > <himpor@> wrote: > > > > Saturn and moon in the 9th house is considered as a bad combination > in the natives chart ... > > > > the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the > positives will also turn negetive and will give loss . > > > > what other impact does this combination has on the native and what > are the uapays ... > >  Himanshu Porwal > > Contact No. +91 90522 25405 > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Himanshu ji, the discussion on saturn+moon and especially saturn 4 is nothing less than a trendsetter. I have read some books by some renowned lalkitabis and seen with my own eyes them prescribing the remedy of drinking alchohol regardless of the state of native's health. To lend authenticity a novelty is added " take a dropper and pore 4 drops on tongue, the first thing in the morning. Thanks to the discussion now we know that it is to be used in case of health problem only. Otherwise it may even turn other items of saturn malefic . I wonder if a man who has a robust health and once used alchohol at some time of his life be satisfied by 4 drops only. Kulbir. On 2/16/09, Himanshu Porwal <himpor wrote: > hi, > > i would like to thank all the boarder for such a interactive > discussion on the saturn+ moon combination in the 9th house. > > upays were discussed in detail. i still remember long back my visit > to uncle at udaipur who sees horoscope based on lal kitab and he has > shown me the book stating this malefic combination. > > i agree with u that native goes through the feeling that there is a > something missing from the life, although money aspects are normal > not good but not bad too. > > but i think the money in life, satisfaction with the life and other > aspects belong to other planetory combination also. > > I would again like to thank all the senior members for providing > there detailed opinion on topic. > > > > Regards > himanshu > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd wrote: >> >> Respected Himanshu ji, >> >> It is not true that the results will be entirely malefic. It will >> have mixed results. The combination in the 9th is good for money >> matters. >> >> " maya daulat chahe hardam barhta, asar chandra khud manda ho " >> >> >> It is the karaks of moon which will suffer. i.e. the peace of mind >> will stay disturbed. The native will feel some thing missing even > if >> he has all the worldly possessions. He may not even know what is >> missing in his life. >> >> The best upaya suggested is to feed milk to snakes. >> >> Regards, >> >> Varun Trivedi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , Himanshu Porwal >> <himpor@> wrote: >> > >> > Saturn and moon in the 9th house is considered as a bad > combination >> in the natives chart ... >> > >> > the native will find tremendous difficulties in life and all the >> positives will also turn negetive and will give loss . >> > >> > what other impact does this combination has on the native and > what >> are the uapays ... >> >  Himanshu Porwal >> > Contact No. +91 90522 25405 >> > >> > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to >> http://messenger./invite/ >> > >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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