Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Dear JAIN and Sharat ji, Sharat ji has given wrong example. Navamsa chart indicates many aspects in life , marital relationship is one of them. Navamsa chart is also called Dharmamsa also. A good spouse is the result of dharmic life adopted in last birth.Details may be seen from a book "Navamsa in Astrology by C S Patel"published by Sagar Publication. Whenever a planet is placed in a sign , and if its Navamsa sign falls in 6th,8th and 12th sign from it , the planet obtains some blemish.The extent of blemish is to be accessed based on other factors also. In the case of Jupiter is in Cancer sign , and obtains Navamsa's of Sagittarius-6th and Aquarius 8th ,Jupiter will obtain some blemish ,but less in Sag,. Navamsa. Main birth chart if taken as body , Navamsa chart acts as spirit. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA sharat pandit <sharatpandit Sent: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 9:03:15 PMLK discussion group Re: Exalted Jupiter Dear Varun ji The 6/8 position as explained by Mr Goel may not hold true. Mainly the navamsha chart is seen to analyse the strength of a planet and also for marriage/relationsh ip aspect. so a planet can be in exaltation in birth chart but if debilitated in navamsha, would lose strength. So an exalted Jupiter in Natal chart and jupiter in own sign in Navamsha can not be termed a bad combination. This way anybody having Saggitarius lagna and an exalted Jupiter in the 8th from lagna would be termed malefic, which is not the case in reality. Your logic about Jupiter in an inimical nakshatra seems quite sound!! respectfully Sharat Pandit On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, varun_trvd <varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Jain saheb,When a planet crosses over 16 deg 40 min in Cancer, it moves into Ashlesha nakshatra. The swami [lord] of this nakshatra is mercury. Therefore Jupiter with more than 16d40 ansha in Cancer, although in a rasi of its exaltation, gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a planet hostile to Jupiter. It is like staying in a house owned by an enemy. Under these circumstances Jupiter will not be comfortable and may not be in a position to give results commensurate with its exalted rasi. This could become all the more certain if the mercury is badly placed in the Janma Kundali and the Jupiter is devoid of any help from other friendly planets.This is a well known Vedic astrology dictum, equally applicable for Lal Kitab, that when a planet gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a hostile planet, it might give malefic results depending on other planetary placements in the janma kundali.Therefore, it is always advisable to keep in mind which nakshatra the planet is placed in.Regards,Varun Trivedi , "mpj571" <mpj571 wrote:>> Sir,> > Just a general query.> > Why is it believed that an exalted Jupiter with a longitude beyond > 16d40 in Cancer could give malefic results which are not expected from > an exalted planet? > > MP Jain> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Sir Goel ji, Thank you sir ji for your explanation. sincerely, MP Jain , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear JAIN and Sharat ji, > Sharat ji has given wrong example. > Navamsa chart indicates many aspects in life , > marital relationship is one of them. > Navamsa chart is also called Dharmamsa also. > A good spouse is the result of dharmic life adopted in > last birth.Details may be seen from a book " Navamsa in Astrology > by C S Patel " published by Sagar Publication. > Whenever a planet is placed in a sign , and if its Navamsa sign falls in > 6th,8th and 12th sign from it , the planet obtains some blemish..The extent of blemish is to be accessed based on other factors also. > In the case of Jupiter is in Cancer sign , and obtains Navamsa's of Sagittarius-6th and Aquarius > 8th ,Jupiter will obtain some blemish ,but less in Sag,. Navamsa. > Main birth chart if taken as body , Navamsa chart acts as spirit. > Regards, >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > sharat pandit <sharatpandit > > Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 9:03:15 PM > LK discussion group Re: Exalted Jupiter > > > Dear Varun ji > > The 6/8 position as explained by Mr Goel may not hold true. Mainly the navamsha chart is seen to analyse the strength of a planet and also for marriage/relationsh ip aspect. so a planet can be in exaltation in birth chart but if debilitated in navamsha, would lose strength. So an exalted Jupiter in Natal chart and jupiter in own sign in Navamsha can not be termed a bad combination. This way anybody having Saggitarius lagna and an exalted Jupiter in the 8th from lagna would be termed malefic, which is not the case in reality. > > Your logic about Jupiter in an inimical nakshatra seems quite sound!! > > respectfully > > Sharat Pandit > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, varun_trvd <varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Respected Jain saheb, > > When a planet crosses over 16 deg 40 min in Cancer, it moves into > Ashlesha nakshatra. The swami [lord] of this nakshatra is mercury. > Therefore Jupiter with more than 16d40 ansha in Cancer, although in a > rasi of its exaltation, gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a planet > hostile to Jupiter. It is like staying in a house owned by an enemy. > Under these circumstances Jupiter will not be comfortable and may not > be in a position to give results commensurate with its exalted rasi. > This could become all the more certain if the mercury is badly placed > in the Janma Kundali and the Jupiter is devoid of any help from other > friendly planets. > > This is a well known Vedic astrology dictum, equally applicable for Lal > Kitab, that when a planet gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a > hostile planet, it might give malefic results depending on other > planetary placements in the janma kundali. > > Therefore, it is always advisable to keep in mind which nakshatra the > planet is placed in. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > @.. com, " mpj571 " <mpj571@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > Just a general query. > > > > Why is it believed that an exalted Jupiter with a longitude beyond > > 16d40 in Cancer could give malefic results which are not expected > from > > an exalted planet? > > > > MP Jain > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Very respected Goel Saheb, We as a group are really grateful for your contributions here. Your experience and insight into vedic astrology is very well known amongst the astrology forums on the net. We always have some thing or the other to learn from you. Aap ka aasheervad hum sab par sadaiv bana rahe. With great respect, Varun Trivedi , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Varun ji, > Planets are lords of signs. > Nakshatras are deep in sky and planets are not the lords of Nakshatras. > In Vimsottari Dasa it is loosely said that such and such planet is the lord of > such and such Nakshatra to indicate its affinity. > Whenever a planet transits any nakshatra it gives its independent results predominantly. > In Vimsottari dasa these results will also depend on the placement of Mercury vis a Vi's Jupiter. > When Jupiter in Aslesha , indicative results may be as under: > 1st pada;AMPLE WEALTH,GOOD WIFE AND CHILDREN.If Venus is in debility > 1st wife may die and marry again. > 2nd pada:He will be scholar,charitable and endowed with truth and penance. > 3rd pada:The wife of the native will bring enormous wealth > 4th pada:Attain high position in govt. job > Results will vary if aspected by other planets. > Regards >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > varun_trvd <varun_trvd > > Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 8:16:53 PM > LK discussion group Re: Exalted Jupiter > > > Respected Goel Saheb, > > Thank you sir for this explanation. This adds to my knowledge. > > I had explained this slightly differently. The jupiter enters > Ashlesha after 16Ca40 and since this nakshatra is ruled by Mercury > therefore the results of an exalted Jupiter may not be as good as > expected. > > With great respect and regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Gopal Goel > <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Jain, > > Signs > > Cancer and Sagittarius are in 6/8 disposition which is > > considered as inimical in astrology. > > When Jupiter is in cancer and obtains degrees in between > > 16deg40' and 20deg , it will falls in Sagitt. Navamsa. > > This is the reason that it is not considered as good. > > Regards.G.K. GOE > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > mpj571 <mpj571@> > > > > Friday, 9 January, 2009 11:11:21 AM > > LK discussion group Exalted Jupiter > > > > > > Sir, > > > > Just a general query. > > > > Why is it believed that an exalted Jupiter with a longitude beyond > > 16d40 in Cancer could give malefic results which are not expected > from > > an exalted planet? > > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Respected Kulbir g aap ne bahot achha answer diya hai.chahe koi parashri method se dekhe ya kp method ya lal kitab ya fir koi aur method jo jupiter ka 4th house ka symptoms hai to jyada sure ho jata hai ki us insaan me jup 4th ke symtoms hai ya nahi.faisla karna easy hoga ki jup achha phal de raha hai ya manda.lal kitab se grah ki laguage puri tarah samajh aa jati hai ki wo kya keh raha hai.dusre shabdon me lal kitab insaan ki aukat JAR JORU JAMEEN (SHUKAR),PUTAR SANTAN(KE),BAAP DADA KE HALAAT(JUP)AADI .in grahon ko puri tarah se lal kitab ki gramar ke accordind samjha jaye to bahut hi stik jawab deti hai.i love lal kitab. dhanyawad kunwar vishal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, You are right. In order to find the results of Jupiter placed in the 4th house one has to look into the 10th house also. If the 10th house is unoccupied then Jupiter will be dormant. If the 10th house is occupied then is it occupied by friends of Jupiter or by its enemies. Similarly saturn, mercury and rahu placement also has to be seen I think nothing can be more exaustive than what you had written a few months back and I quote you : For jupiter in the 4th house you had written 1. Offers benefic results if house number2,5,9,11,12 do not havemercury, venus, rahu or shani in paapi capacity. 2. Moon in 1st house and Saturn in 10th house = all types ofcomfort of conveyance is bestowed. 3. When male planets are good i.e sun and mars ; the father ofthe native is blessed with judicial or authoritative powers. 4. When moon is in house no. 2, Saturn and rahu's generalnature governs the overall malefic/benefic effects of the native'sdestiny. If their nature is nek, the native will be blessed bybusiness and wealth of ancestors, enjoys good reputation in societyand also holds some important government post. But in such ascenario the health of the native is not good and he has togenerally spend about one-fourth of his income on maintaining goodhealth. Royal disposition blessed with wealth, servants, royalsymbols, decorated continuously. 5. House no 10 empty, Jupiter in 4th is dormant, such a nativeshould never let anybody see his naked body to attain good effectsof Jupiter 4. 6. With the exception of moon in 2nd house, moon in each houseis best and native doesn't has to spend a large amount on his health. 7. When moon is kayam and the native maintains it so. If motheris alive, the education is completed despite hurdles. But if themother leaves the native early, the education is completed fromstart to finish without any difficulty. 8. When ketu is good in the horoscope, money spend on theeducation of the native or spend by him on education of othersreturns with interest. If maintains good character, blessed with along life. 9. Mercury benefic or sun in house 10, well qualified,skilled, learned but condition of fortune is not there. Wellrenowned in family and government. 10. Saturn in house no 2,9,10 good natured, famed, helpful andcharitable, royal residence and all sorts of comforts. 11. When rahu is benefic, items of moon i.e. mother, horses, etchave benefic results. 12. When mercury is in house no and arrives in varshphal in 4thhouse it will give disastrous results. If indulges in illicitrelations after the age of 34, he will destroy whole of his family.It is good for the native that he remains a servant and not an ordergive, decision maker or a master. He will be betrayed by hisjudgments; decisions and his actions destroy him. Forewarning foryears 11-23, 34, 38, 55, 71, 85, 97, 119. 13. Saturn is malefic or the native converts a benefic Saturninto malefic by his actions such as killing of snakes, fallingbuildings or drinking etc. the native attains pleasure from immoralactivities, has excellent knowledge about wining and dining (non-veg). loves nefarious reputation. His eyesight is in danger and ketualso doesn't gives benefic results. 14. enemy planets venus, mercury, rahu or Saturn in house no.10! rahu is malefic - wealth is in danger. Items of moon give worseresults.!! ketu is malefic - appears like an ordinary /below average incomeperson even if he might be a king. Might have to leave his house totake shelter in the woods to save him from calamity. Kulbir Bains with regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Dear members; from lalkitab prespectve a very senior lalkitab scholar ( he> prefers anonymity) once told me that for jupier in house no 4. the sehan is> house no 10.. this house no 10 is pakka ghar of shani which looks in all> directions, the influence of which on jupiter placed in houe no 4 is> inevitable, so the occupation of house no 10, nature of saturn and its> placement in the natal chart is all important to check the benefic or> malefic nature of jupiter in house no 4. also a list of symtoms have been> given to check the nature of jupiter in house no 4.it is a much simplar> procedure.> would request senior members' views on this.> regards> kulbir> > > On 1/29/09, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937 wrote:> >> > Dear JAIN and Sharat ji,> > Sharat ji has given wrong example.> > Navamsa chart indicates many aspects in life ,> > marital relationship is one of them.> > Navamsa chart is also called Dharmamsa also.> > A good spouse is the result of dharmic life adopted in> > last birth.Details may be seen from a book "Navamsa in Astrology> > by C S Patel"published by Sagar Publication.> > Whenever a planet is placed in a sign , and if its Navamsa sign falls in> > 6th,8th and 12th sign from it , the planet obtains some blemish.The extent> > of blemish is to be accessed based on other factors also.> > In the case of Jupiter is in Cancer sign , and obtains Navamsa's> > of Sagittarius-6th and Aquarius> > 8th ,Jupiter will obtain some blemish ,but less in Sag,. Navamsa.> > Main birth chart if taken as body , Navamsa chart acts as spirit.> > Regards,> >> > G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA> >> >> > ------------------------------> > ** sharat pandit sharatpandit > *To:* > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 9:03:15 PM> > *Subject:* LK discussion group Re: Exalted Jupiter> >> > Dear Varun ji> >> > The 6/8 position as explained by Mr Goel may not hold true. Mainly the> > navamsha chart is seen to analyse the strength of a planet and also for> > marriage/relationsh ip aspect. so a planet can be in exaltation in birth> > chart but if debilitated in navamsha, would lose strength. So an exalted> > Jupiter in Natal chart and jupiter in own sign in Navamsha can not be termed> > a bad combination. This way anybody having Saggitarius lagna and an exalted> > Jupiter in the 8th from lagna would be termed malefic, which is not the case> > in reality.> >> > Your logic about Jupiter in an inimical nakshatra seems quite sound!!> >> > respectfully> >> > Sharat Pandit> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, varun_trvd varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) co.invarun_trvd > > wrote:> >> >> Respected Jain saheb,> >>> >> When a planet crosses over 16 deg 40 min in Cancer, it moves into> >> Ashlesha nakshatra. The swami [lord] of this nakshatra is mercury.> >> Therefore Jupiter with more than 16d40 ansha in Cancer, although in a> >> rasi of its exaltation, gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a planet> >> hostile to Jupiter. It is like staying in a house owned by an enemy.> >> Under these circumstances Jupiter will not be comfortable and may not> >> be in a position to give results commensurate with its exalted rasi.> >> This could become all the more certain if the mercury is badly placed> >> in the Janma Kundali and the Jupiter is devoid of any help from other> >> friendly planets.> >>> >> This is a well known Vedic astrology dictum, equally applicable for Lal> >> Kitab, that when a planet gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a> >> hostile planet, it might give malefic results depending on other> >> planetary placements in the janma kundali.> >>> >> Therefore, it is always advisable to keep in mind which nakshatra the> >> planet is placed in.> >>> >> Regards,> >>> >> Varun Trivedi> >>> >> <%40>,> >> "mpj571" mpj571@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Sir,> >> >> >> > Just a general query.> >> >> >> > Why is it believed that an exalted Jupiter with a longitude beyond> >> > 16d40 in Cancer could give malefic results which are not expected> >> from> >> > an exalted planet?> >> >> >> > MP Jain> >> >> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Thanx Varun bhai, i simply forgot about the task of doing similar translation for other planets also. The work on jupiter was complimented by excellent inputs by pt. Bhooshan priya ji. Now i realise how handy it can be. I shall continue with sun next and once the list is completed for all 9 planets, we can upload it in files section. I feel someone proficient in computers can create a software based on it. Regards - kulbir On 1/31/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > You are right. In order to find the results of Jupiter placed in the > 4th house one has to look into the 10th house also. If the 10th house is > unoccupied then Jupiter will be dormant. If the 10th house is occupied > then is it occupied by friends of Jupiter or by its enemies. > > Similarly saturn, mercury and rahu placement also has to be seen > > I think nothing can be more exaustive than what you had written a few > months back and I quote you : > > For jupiter in the 4th house you had written > > 1. Offers benefic results if house number2,5,9,11,12 do not have > mercury, venus, rahu or shani in paapi capacity. > > > > 2. Moon in 1st house and Saturn in 10th house = all types of > comfort of conveyance is bestowed. > > > > 3. When male planets are good i.e sun and mars ; the father of > the native is blessed with judicial or authoritative powers. > > > > 4. When moon is in house no. 2, Saturn and rahu's general > nature governs the overall malefic/benefic effects of the native's > destiny. If their nature is nek, the native will be blessed by > business and wealth of ancestors, enjoys good reputation in society > and also holds some important government post. But in such a > scenario the health of the native is not good and he has to > generally spend about one-fourth of his income on maintaining good > health. Royal disposition blessed with wealth, servants, royal > symbols, decorated continuously. > > > > 5. House no 10 empty, Jupiter in 4th is dormant, such a native > should never let anybody see his naked body to attain good effects > of Jupiter 4. > > > > 6. With the exception of moon in 2nd house, moon in each house > is best and native doesn't has to spend a large amount on his health. > > > > 7. When moon is kayam and the native maintains it so. If mother > is alive, the education is completed despite hurdles. But if the > mother leaves the native early, the education is completed from > start to finish without any difficulty. > > > > 8. When ketu is good in the horoscope, money spend on the > education of the native or spend by him on education of others > returns with interest. If maintains good character, blessed with a > long life. > > > > 9. Mercury benefic or sun in house 10, well qualified, > skilled, learned but condition of fortune is not there. Well > renowned in family and government. > > > > 10. Saturn in house no 2,9,10 good natured, famed, helpful and > charitable, royal residence and all sorts of comforts. > > > > 11. When rahu is benefic, items of moon i.e. mother, horses, etc > have benefic results. > > > > 12. When mercury is in house no and arrives in varshphal in 4th > house it will give disastrous results. If indulges in illicit > relations after the age of 34, he will destroy whole of his family. > It is good for the native that he remains a servant and not an order > give, decision maker or a master. He will be betrayed by his > judgments; decisions and his actions destroy him. Forewarning for > years 11-23, 34, 38, 55, 71, 85, 97, 119. > > > > 13. Saturn is malefic or the native converts a benefic Saturn > into malefic by his actions such as killing of snakes, falling > buildings or drinking etc. the native attains pleasure from immoral > activities, has excellent knowledge about wining and dining (non- > veg). loves nefarious reputation. His eyesight is in danger and ketu > also doesn't gives benefic results. > > > > 14. enemy planets venus, mercury, rahu or Saturn in house no.10 > ! rahu is malefic - wealth is in danger. Items of moon give worse > results. > !! ketu is malefic - appears like an ordinary /below average income > person even if he might be a king. Might have to leave his house to > take shelter in the woods to save him from calamity. > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > with regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Dear members; from lalkitab prespectve a very senior lalkitab scholar > ( he >> prefers anonymity) once told me that for jupier in house no 4. the > sehan is >> house no 10.. this house no 10 is pakka ghar of shani which looks in > all >> directions, the influence of which on jupiter placed in houe no 4 is >> inevitable, so the occupation of house no 10, nature of saturn and its >> placement in the natal chart is all important to check the benefic or >> malefic nature of jupiter in house no 4. also a list of symtoms have > been >> given to check the nature of jupiter in house no 4.it is a much > simplar >> procedure. >> would request senior members' views on this. >> regards >> kulbir >> >> >> On 1/29/09, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937 wrote: >> > >> > Dear JAIN and Sharat ji, >> > Sharat ji has given wrong example. >> > Navamsa chart indicates many aspects in life , >> > marital relationship is one of them. >> > Navamsa chart is also called Dharmamsa also. >> > A good spouse is the result of dharmic life adopted in >> > last birth.Details may be seen from a book " Navamsa in Astrology >> > by C S Patel " published by Sagar Publication. >> > Whenever a planet is placed in a sign , and if its Navamsa sign > falls in >> > 6th,8th and 12th sign from it , the planet obtains some blemish.The > extent >> > of blemish is to be accessed based on other factors also. >> > In the case of Jupiter is in Cancer sign , and obtains Navamsa's >> > of Sagittarius-6th and Aquarius >> > 8th ,Jupiter will obtain some blemish ,but less in Sag,. Navamsa. >> > Main birth chart if taken as body , Navamsa chart acts as spirit. >> > Regards, >> > >> > G.K.GOEL >> > Ph: 09350311433 >> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR >> > NEW DELHI-110 076 >> > INDIA >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > ** sharat pandit sharatpandit >> > *To:* >> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 9:03:15 PM >> > *Subject:* LK discussion group Re: Exalted Jupiter >> > >> > Dear Varun ji >> > >> > The 6/8 position as explained by Mr Goel may not hold true. Mainly > the >> > navamsha chart is seen to analyse the strength of a planet and also > for >> > marriage/relationsh ip aspect. so a planet can be in exaltation in > birth >> > chart but if debilitated in navamsha, would lose strength. So an > exalted >> > Jupiter in Natal chart and jupiter in own sign in Navamsha can not > be termed >> > a bad combination. This way anybody having Saggitarius lagna and an > exalted >> > Jupiter in the 8th from lagna would be termed malefic, which is not > the case >> > in reality. >> > >> > Your logic about Jupiter in an inimical nakshatra seems quite > sound!! >> > >> > respectfully >> > >> > Sharat Pandit >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, varun_trvd varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) > co.invarun_trvd >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> Respected Jain saheb, >> >> >> >> When a planet crosses over 16 deg 40 min in Cancer, it moves into >> >> Ashlesha nakshatra. The swami [lord] of this nakshatra is mercury. >> >> Therefore Jupiter with more than 16d40 ansha in Cancer, although in > a >> >> rasi of its exaltation, gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a > planet >> >> hostile to Jupiter. It is like staying in a house owned by an > enemy. >> >> Under these circumstances Jupiter will not be comfortable and may > not >> >> be in a position to give results commensurate with its exalted > rasi. >> >> This could become all the more certain if the mercury is badly > placed >> >> in the Janma Kundali and the Jupiter is devoid of any help from > other >> >> friendly planets. >> >> >> >> This is a well known Vedic astrology dictum, equally applicable for > Lal >> >> Kitab, that when a planet gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a >> >> hostile planet, it might give malefic results depending on other >> >> planetary placements in the janma kundali. >> >> >> >> Therefore, it is always advisable to keep in mind which nakshatra > the >> >> planet is placed in. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Varun Trivedi >> >> >> >> @. > com<%40>, >> >> " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Sir, >> >> > >> >> > Just a general query. >> >> > >> >> > Why is it believed that an exalted Jupiter with a longitude > beyond >> >> > 16d40 in Cancer could give malefic results which are not expected >> >> from >> >> > an exalted planet? >> >> > >> >> > MP Jain >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > now.<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..\ > com/invite/> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, I have all the 12 articles by you on Jupiter in each house saved and I intend to upload them to the files section in a separate folder containing such analysis for all the planets. You can take your time to do a similar exercise for other planets. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Thanx Varun bhai, > > i simply forgot about the task of doing similar > translation for other planets also. The work on jupiter was > complimented by excellent inputs by pt. Bhooshan priya ji. Now i > realise how handy it can be. I shall continue with sun next and once > the list is completed for all 9 planets, we can upload it in files > section. I feel someone proficient in computers can create a software > based on it. > > Regards > > - kulbir > > On 1/31/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > You are right. In order to find the results of Jupiter placed in the > > 4th house one has to look into the 10th house also. If the 10th house is > > unoccupied then Jupiter will be dormant. If the 10th house is occupied > > then is it occupied by friends of Jupiter or by its enemies. > > > > Similarly saturn, mercury and rahu placement also has to be seen > > > > I think nothing can be more exaustive than what you had written a few > > months back and I quote you : > > > > For jupiter in the 4th house you had written > > > > 1. Offers benefic results if house number2,5,9,11,12 do not have > > mercury, venus, rahu or shani in paapi capacity. > > > > > > > > 2. Moon in 1st house and Saturn in 10th house = all types of > > comfort of conveyance is bestowed. > > > > > > > > 3. When male planets are good i.e sun and mars ; the father of > > the native is blessed with judicial or authoritative powers. > > > > > > > > 4. When moon is in house no. 2, Saturn and rahu's general > > nature governs the overall malefic/benefic effects of the native's > > destiny. If their nature is nek, the native will be blessed by > > business and wealth of ancestors, enjoys good reputation in society > > and also holds some important government post. But in such a > > scenario the health of the native is not good and he has to > > generally spend about one-fourth of his income on maintaining good > > health. Royal disposition blessed with wealth, servants, royal > > symbols, decorated continuously. > > > > > > > > 5. House no 10 empty, Jupiter in 4th is dormant, such a native > > should never let anybody see his naked body to attain good effects > > of Jupiter 4. > > > > > > > > 6. With the exception of moon in 2nd house, moon in each house > > is best and native doesn't has to spend a large amount on his health. > > > > > > > > 7. When moon is kayam and the native maintains it so. If mother > > is alive, the education is completed despite hurdles. But if the > > mother leaves the native early, the education is completed from > > start to finish without any difficulty. > > > > > > > > 8. When ketu is good in the horoscope, money spend on the > > education of the native or spend by him on education of others > > returns with interest. If maintains good character, blessed with a > > long life. > > > > > > > > 9. Mercury benefic or sun in house 10, well qualified, > > skilled, learned but condition of fortune is not there. Well > > renowned in family and government. > > > > > > > > 10. Saturn in house no 2,9,10 good natured, famed, helpful and > > charitable, royal residence and all sorts of comforts. > > > > > > > > 11. When rahu is benefic, items of moon i.e. mother, horses, etc > > have benefic results. > > > > > > > > 12. When mercury is in house no and arrives in varshphal in 4th > > house it will give disastrous results. If indulges in illicit > > relations after the age of 34, he will destroy whole of his family. > > It is good for the native that he remains a servant and not an order > > give, decision maker or a master. He will be betrayed by his > > judgments; decisions and his actions destroy him. Forewarning for > > years 11-23, 34, 38, 55, 71, 85, 97, 119. > > > > > > > > 13. Saturn is malefic or the native converts a benefic Saturn > > into malefic by his actions such as killing of snakes, falling > > buildings or drinking etc. the native attains pleasure from immoral > > activities, has excellent knowledge about wining and dining (non- > > veg). loves nefarious reputation. His eyesight is in danger and ketu > > also doesn't gives benefic results. > > > > > > > > 14. enemy planets venus, mercury, rahu or Saturn in house no.10 > > ! rahu is malefic - wealth is in danger. Items of moon give worse > > results. > > !! ketu is malefic - appears like an ordinary /below average income > > person even if he might be a king. Might have to leave his house to > > take shelter in the woods to save him from calamity. > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > >> Dear members; from lalkitab prespectve a very senior lalkitab scholar > > ( he > >> prefers anonymity) once told me that for jupier in house no 4. the > > sehan is > >> house no 10.. this house no 10 is pakka ghar of shani which looks in > > all > >> directions, the influence of which on jupiter placed in houe no 4 is > >> inevitable, so the occupation of house no 10, nature of saturn and its > >> placement in the natal chart is all important to check the benefic or > >> malefic nature of jupiter in house no 4. also a list of symtoms have > > been > >> given to check the nature of jupiter in house no 4.it is a much > > simplar > >> procedure. > >> would request senior members' views on this. > >> regards > >> kulbir > >> > >> > >> On 1/29/09, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@ wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear JAIN and Sharat ji, > >> > Sharat ji has given wrong example. > >> > Navamsa chart indicates many aspects in life , > >> > marital relationship is one of them. > >> > Navamsa chart is also called Dharmamsa also. > >> > A good spouse is the result of dharmic life adopted in > >> > last birth.Details may be seen from a book " Navamsa in Astrology > >> > by C S Patel " published by Sagar Publication. > >> > Whenever a planet is placed in a sign , and if its Navamsa sign > > falls in > >> > 6th,8th and 12th sign from it , the planet obtains some blemish.The > > extent > >> > of blemish is to be accessed based on other factors also. > >> > In the case of Jupiter is in Cancer sign , and obtains Navamsa's > >> > of Sagittarius-6th and Aquarius > >> > 8th ,Jupiter will obtain some blemish ,but less in Sag,. Navamsa. > >> > Main birth chart if taken as body , Navamsa chart acts as spirit. > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > G.K.GOEL > >> > Ph: 09350311433 > >> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > >> > NEW DELHI-110 076 > >> > INDIA > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------ > >> > ** sharat pandit sharatpandit@ > >> > *To:* > >> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 9:03:15 PM > >> > *Subject:* LK discussion group Re: Exalted Jupiter > >> > > >> > Dear Varun ji > >> > > >> > The 6/8 position as explained by Mr Goel may not hold true. Mainly > > the > >> > navamsha chart is seen to analyse the strength of a planet and also > > for > >> > marriage/relationsh ip aspect. so a planet can be in exaltation in > > birth > >> > chart but if debilitated in navamsha, would lose strength. So an > > exalted > >> > Jupiter in Natal chart and jupiter in own sign in Navamsha can not > > be termed > >> > a bad combination. This way anybody having Saggitarius lagna and an > > exalted > >> > Jupiter in the 8th from lagna would be termed malefic, which is not > > the case > >> > in reality. > >> > > >> > Your logic about Jupiter in an inimical nakshatra seems quite > > sound!! > >> > > >> > respectfully > >> > > >> > Sharat Pandit > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, varun_trvd varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) > > co.invarun_trvd@ > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Respected Jain saheb, > >> >> > >> >> When a planet crosses over 16 deg 40 min in Cancer, it moves into > >> >> Ashlesha nakshatra. The swami [lord] of this nakshatra is mercury. > >> >> Therefore Jupiter with more than 16d40 ansha in Cancer, although in > > a > >> >> rasi of its exaltation, gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a > > planet > >> >> hostile to Jupiter. It is like staying in a house owned by an > > enemy. > >> >> Under these circumstances Jupiter will not be comfortable and may > > not > >> >> be in a position to give results commensurate with its exalted > > rasi. > >> >> This could become all the more certain if the mercury is badly > > placed > >> >> in the Janma Kundali and the Jupiter is devoid of any help from > > other > >> >> friendly planets. > >> >> > >> >> This is a well known Vedic astrology dictum, equally applicable for > > Lal > >> >> Kitab, that when a planet gets placed in a nakshatra lorded by a > >> >> hostile planet, it might give malefic results depending on other > >> >> planetary placements in the janma kundali. > >> >> > >> >> Therefore, it is always advisable to keep in mind which nakshatra > > the > >> >> planet is placed in. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> > >> >> Varun Trivedi > >> >> > >> >> @. > > com<%40>, > >> >> " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Sir, > >> >> > > >> >> > Just a general query. > >> >> > > >> >> > Why is it believed that an exalted Jupiter with a longitude > > beyond > >> >> > 16d40 in Cancer could give malefic results which are not expected > >> >> from > >> >> > an exalted planet? > >> >> > > >> >> > MP Jain > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > ------------------------------ > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > > now.<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger.yaho o.\ > > com/invite/> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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