LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE JAYE

[Guest guest]

mahajan ji;

for this the first step would be assigningment of new karaks to planets,

second would be studing modifications in the lifestyle;

third one would be amalgmation of modern architecture with the vaastu with the vaastu written in lalkitab.

one thing is to be remembered that basics always remain the same, we cannot change the basics but only modify them to suit our current needs.

regards

kulbir

On 1/21/09, mts3434 <mts3434 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Members,

Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha gaya. Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo ki jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo upay Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi nivedan hai ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh anmol Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar hee upay ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda udha sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-

Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.

Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas ke chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete hain ki raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh warning bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai usko subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).

Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha jaye ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua ) rakh kar uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia result milege.

Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis mein koyle ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee Chander nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss liye hee mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.

Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee kal (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna denge.

MAHAJAN.

[Guest guest]

Dear members,

Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra

nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in my

view we can also use it on " burning Dry Cowdung Cakes " .

Regards

Nirmal

, " mts3434 " <mts3434 wrote:

>

>

> Members,

>

> Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki

> 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha gaya.

> Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo ki

> jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo upay

> Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya

> aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi nivedan hai

> ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh anmol

> Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar hee upay

> ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda udha

> sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-

>

> Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.

>

> Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas ke

> chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete hain ki

> raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh warning

> bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai usko

> subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).

>

> Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha jaye

> ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua ) rakh kar

> uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia result

> milege.

>

> Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis mein koyle

> ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee Chander

> nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss liye hee

> mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.

>

> Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee kal

> (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna denge.

>

> MAHAJAN.

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Friends,

 

Back when Pt jee was alive, I had the need to do this remedial measure. Because of the kitchen in US having gas/electric stoves, Pt jee had already modified this upaay. He suggested that a seperate tawaa (iron griddle/hotplate) be reserved for this purpose. At the end of the night cooking session, this tawaa should be heated on high heat and some milk should be poured on it (in small quantities) to be "burnt." After the cool down, the left-over "burnt milk" (if any) should to be scraped and collected. After 43 days, the tawaa and the left over burnt milk should be dropped in a river/ocean/running water. Please note that the condition of not using that particular stove till the next morning still applies.

 

Many remedial measures were thus already modified by Pt jee based on new realities. Pt jee was always interested in knowing how life was changing in modern times so that he could fine-tune Lal Kitab system accordingly, if applicable.

 

Another alternative and very effective measure in lieu of this difficult upaay is to bring home a coin (any coin) offered by someone else from a temple/religious place. I have seen on the net some people making this remedial measure impossible to perform by suggesting that the coin should be a copper coin. That is absolutely NOT necessary. Where does one find copper coins these days? Not at all in India (and rarely in the rest of the world.) Even a currency note will do the trick. It needs to be something that someone else has offered. Coin/Currency notes are the easiest things to bring. My recommendation is to offer a five Rupee note and pick a one Rupee coin/note from the temple. In this context, even getting prasaad from the temple/gurudwara is helpful. That is why prasaad is distributed in temples and they say that one must not refuse to accept the prasaad.

 

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE JAYE Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 10:05 AM

 

 

Dear members,Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandranashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in myview we can also use it on "burning Dry Cowdung Cakes". Regards Nirmal, "mts3434" <mts3434 > wrote:>> > Members,> > Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki> 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha gaya.> Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo ki> jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo upay> Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya> aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi nivedan hai> ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay

jab yeh anmol> Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar hee upay> ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda udha> sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-> > Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.> > Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas ke> chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete hain ki> raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh warning> bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai usko> subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).> > Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha jaye> ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua ) rakh kar> uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia result> milege.>

> Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis mein koyle> ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee Chander> nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss liye hee> mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.> > Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee kal> (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna denge.> > MAHAJAN.>

[Guest guest]

Nirmal ji, the logic for the remeay is all important. Like for malefic

rahu the remedy for eating in kitchen. But jahan khana banta ho

implies the presence of fire. Earlier fire was lit at every meal or

hot smoldering cow dung cakes were always prerent in the chullha. But

now we have microwaves. So what is to be done now. Can a gas burner be

lit while taking the meal or the food is to be cooked or heated on it.

Regardr-kulbir

 

On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

> Dear members,

> Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra

> nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in my

> view we can also use it on " burning Dry Cowdung Cakes " .

> Regards

> Nirmal

> , " mts3434 " <mts3434 wrote:

>>

>>

>> Members,

>>

>> Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki

>> 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha gaya.

>> Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo ki

>> jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo upay

>> Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya

>> aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi nivedan hai

>> ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh anmol

>> Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar hee upay

>> ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda udha

>> sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-

>>

>> Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.

>>

>> Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas ke

>> chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete hain ki

>> raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh warning

>> bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai usko

>> subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).

>>

>> Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha jaye

>> ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua ) rakh kar

>> uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia result

>> milege.

>>

>> Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis mein koyle

>> ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee Chander

>> nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss liye hee

>> mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.

>>

>> Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee kal

>> (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna denge.

>>

>> MAHAJAN.

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected gurujans pranam,

 

While we are at this useful discussion of modifying the traditional

remedies to suit our modern lives, i would also request the senior

members to suggest substitutes/alternatives for places which are very

hard to find nowadays. for eg. well(kuan), even if one finds a well

by luck it will most probably be dried up.

This is a very positive and useful start by the seniors to share

their knowledge with neophytes like myself and i would urge/humbly

request more amd more people and learned members to shed light on

these important topics.

 

Thanks

respectfully

jitin syal

 

, Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

>

> Respected Friends,

>  

> Back when Pt jee was alive, I had the need to do this

remedial measure. Because of the kitchen in US having gas/electric

stoves, Pt jee had already modified this upaay. He suggested that a

seperate tawaa (iron griddle/hotplate) be reserved for this purpose.

At the end of the night cooking session, this tawaa should be heated

on high heat and some milk should be poured on it (in small

quantities) to be " burnt. " After the cool down, the left-over " burnt

milk " (if any) should to be scraped and collected. After 43 days, the

tawaa and the left over burnt milk should be dropped in a

river/ocean/running water. Please note that the condition of not

using that particular stove till the next morning still applies.

>  

> Many remedial measures were thus already modified by Pt jee based

on new realities. Pt jee was always interested in knowing how life

was changing in modern times so that he could fine-tune Lal Kitab

system accordingly, if applicable.

>  

> Another alternative and very effective measure in lieu of this

difficult upaay is to bring home a coin (any coin) offered by someone

else from a temple/religious place. I have seen on the net some

people making this remedial measure impossible to perform by

suggesting that the coin should be a copper coin. That is

absolutely NOT necessary. Where does one find copper coins these

days? Not at all in India (and rarely in the rest of the world.) Even

a currency note will do the trick. It needs to be something that

someone else has offered. Coin/Currency notes are the easiest things

to bring. My recommendation is to offer a five Rupee note and pick a

one Rupee coin/note from the temple. In this context, even getting

prasaad from the temple/gurudwara is helpful. That is why prasaad

is distributed in temples and they say that one must not refuse to

accept the prasaad.

>  

>  

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>  

>

>

> On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

>

> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar

> Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE

JAYE

>

> Friday, January 23, 2009, 10:05 AM

Dear members,

> Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra

> nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in

my

> view we can also use it on " burning Dry Cowdung Cakes " .

> Regards

> Nirmal

> , " mts3434 " <mts3434@ > wrote:

> >

> >

> > Members,

> >

> > Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki

> > 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha

gaya.

> > Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo

ki

> > jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo

upay

> > Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya

> > aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi

nivedan hai

> > ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh

anmol

> > Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar

hee upay

> > ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda

udha

> > sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-

> >

> > Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.

> >

> > Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas

ke

> > chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete

hain ki

> > raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh

warning

> > bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai

usko

> > subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).

> >

> > Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha

jaye

> > ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua )

rakh kar

> > uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia

result

> > milege.

> >

> > Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis

mein koyle

> > ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee

Chander

> > nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss

liye hee

> > mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.

> >

> > Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee

kal

> > (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna

denge.

> >

> > MAHAJAN.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

LK considers tap water not to be a true karakatwa of moon as it is

from artificial source tank etc. But then canals are also manmade. So

what type of this water represents.

 

Kulbir

 

 

On 1/25/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82 wrote:

> Respected gurujans pranam,

>

> While we are at this useful discussion of modifying the traditional

> remedies to suit our modern lives, i would also request the senior

> members to suggest substitutes/alternatives for places which are very

> hard to find nowadays. for eg. well(kuan), even if one finds a well

> by luck it will most probably be dried up.

> This is a very positive and useful start by the seniors to share

> their knowledge with neophytes like myself and i would urge/humbly

> request more amd more people and learned members to shed light on

> these important topics.

>

> Thanks

> respectfully

> jitin syal

>

> , Rajinder Bhatia

> <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

>>

>> Respected Friends,

>>

>> Back when Pt jee was alive, I had the need to do this

> remedial measure. Because of the kitchen in US having gas/electric

> stoves, Pt jee had already modified this upaay. He suggested that a

> seperate tawaa (iron griddle/hotplate) be reserved for this purpose.

> At the end of the night cooking session, this tawaa should be heated

> on high heat and some milk should be poured on it (in small

> quantities) to be " burnt. " After the cool down, the left-over " burnt

> milk " (if any) should to be scraped and collected. After 43 days, the

> tawaa and the left over burnt milk should be dropped in a

> river/ocean/running water. Please note that the condition of not

> using that particular stove till the next morning still applies.

>>

>> Many remedial measures were thus already modified by Pt jee based

> on new realities. Pt jee was always interested in knowing how life

> was changing in modern times so that he could fine-tune Lal Kitab

> system accordingly, if applicable.

>>

>> Another alternative and very effective measure in lieu of this

> difficult upaay is to bring home a coin (any coin) offered by someone

> else from a temple/religious place. I have seen on the net some

> people making this remedial measure impossible to perform by

> suggesting that the coin should be a copper coin. That is

> absolutely NOT necessary. Where does one find copper coins these

> days? Not at all in India (and rarely in the rest of the world.) Even

> a currency note will do the trick. It needs to be something that

> someone else has offered. Coin/Currency notes are the easiest things

> to bring. My recommendation is to offer a five Rupee note and pick a

> one Rupee coin/note from the temple. In this context, even getting

> prasaad from the temple/gurudwara is helpful. That is why prasaad

> is distributed in temples and they say that one must not refuse to

> accept the prasaad.

>>

>>

>> Respectfully,

>> Rajinder Bhatia

>>

>>

>>

>> On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

>>

>> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar

>> Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE

> JAYE

>>

>> Friday, January 23, 2009, 10:05 AM

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Dear members,

>> Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra

>> nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in

> my

>> view we can also use it on " burning Dry Cowdung Cakes " .

>> Regards

>> Nirmal

>> , " mts3434 " <mts3434@ > wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> > Members,

>> >

>> > Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki

>> > 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha

> gaya.

>> > Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo

> ki

>> > jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo

> upay

>> > Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya

>> > aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi

> nivedan hai

>> > ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh

> anmol

>> > Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar

> hee upay

>> > ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda

> udha

>> > sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-

>> >

>> > Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.

>> >

>> > Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas

> ke

>> > chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete

> hain ki

>> > raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh

> warning

>> > bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai

> usko

>> > subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).

>> >

>> > Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha

> jaye

>> > ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua )

> rakh kar

>> > uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia

> result

>> > milege.

>> >

>> > Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis

> mein koyle

>> > ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee

> Chander

>> > nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss

> liye hee

>> > mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.

>> >

>> > Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee

> kal

>> > (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna

> denge.

>> >

>> > MAHAJAN.

>> >

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rivers, rainwater, lakes are good substitutes for wells and are good karakatwa for moon.Best Regards,Iqbal

Sent via Blackberry kulbir bance Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:10:15 +0530; LK discussion group Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE JAYE LK considers tap water not to be a true karakatwa of moon as it is from artificial source tank etc. But then canals are also manmade. So what type of this water represents. Kulbir On 1/25/09, jitinsyal82 <jitinsyal82 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > Respected gurujans pranam, > > While we are at this useful discussion of modifying the traditional > remedies to suit our modern lives, i would also request the senior > members to suggest substitutes/alternatives for places which are very > hard to find nowadays. for eg. well(kuan), even if one finds a well > by luck it will most probably be dried up. > This is a very positive and useful start by the seniors to share > their knowledge with neophytes like myself and i would urge/humbly > request more amd more people and learned members to shed light on > these important topics. > > Thanks > respectfully > jitin syal > > , Rajinder Bhatia > <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: >> >> Respected Friends, >> >> Back when Pt jee was alive, I had the need to do this > remedial measure. Because of the kitchen in US having gas/electric > stoves, Pt jee had already modified this upaay. He suggested that a > seperate tawaa (iron griddle/hotplate) be reserved for this purpose. > At the end of the night cooking session, this tawaa should be heated > on high heat and some milk should be poured on it (in small > quantities) to be " burnt. " After the cool down, the left-over " burnt > milk " (if any) should to be scraped and collected. After 43 days, the > tawaa and the left over burnt milk should be dropped in a > river/ocean/running water. Please note that the condition of not > using that particular stove till the next morning still applies. >> >> Many remedial measures were thus already modified by Pt jee based > on new realities. Pt jee was always interested in knowing how life > was changing in modern times so that he could fine-tune Lal Kitab > system accordingly, if applicable. >> >> Another alternative and very effective measure in lieu of this > difficult upaay is to bring home a coin (any coin) offered by someone > else from a temple/religious place. I have seen on the net some > people making this remedial measure impossible to perform by > suggesting that the coin should be a copper coin. That is > absolutely NOT necessary. Where does one find copper coins these > days? Not at all in India (and rarely in the rest of the world.) Even > a currency note will do the trick. It needs to be something that > someone else has offered. Coin/Currency notes are the easiest things > to bring. My recommendation is to offer a five Rupee note and pick a > one Rupee coin/note from the temple. In this context, even getting > prasaad from the temple/gurudwara is helpful. That is why prasaad > is distributed in temples and they say that one must not refuse to > accept the prasaad. >> >> >> Respectfully, >> Rajinder Bhatia >> >> >> >> On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote: >> >> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar >> Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE > JAYE >> >> Friday, January 23, 2009, 10:05 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear members, >> Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra >> nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in > my >> view we can also use it on " burning Dry Cowdung Cakes " . >> Regards >> Nirmal >> , " mts3434 " <mts3434@ > wrote: >> > >> > >> > Members, >> > >> > Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki >> > 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha > gaya. >> > Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo > ki >> > jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo > upay >> > Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya >> > aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi > nivedan hai >> > ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh > anmol >> > Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar > hee upay >> > ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda > udha >> > sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:- >> > >> > Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai. >> > >> > Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas > ke >> > chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete > hain ki >> > raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh > warning >> > bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai > usko >> > subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai). >> > >> > Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha > jaye >> > ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua ) > rakh kar >> > uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia > result >> > milege. >> > >> > Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis > mein koyle >> > ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee > Chander >> > nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss > liye hee >> > mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo. >> > >> > Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee > kal >> > (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna > denge. >> > >> > MAHAJAN. >> > >> > > >

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Dear Kulbir bhai,

Moon in the 1st house has been described as :

 

Ghar mein rakkhe baratan, ya ghare ka achha pani [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 363 ]

 

‘stored at home in a utensil, or good water kept in a pot’

 

Since water stored in a man made object [ ghara or any utensil] is a karak of moon, then water flowing in a man made canal could also be considered a karak of the moon.

 

Have a nice day,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> LK considers tap water not to be a true karakatwa of moon as it is> from artificial source tank etc. But then canals are also manmade. So> what type of this water represents. > > Kulbir> > > On 1/25/09, jitinsyal82 jitinsyal82 wrote:> > Respected gurujans pranam,> >> > While we are at this useful discussion of modifying the traditional> > remedies to suit our modern lives, i would also request the senior> > members to suggest substitutes/alternatives for places which are very> > hard to find nowadays. for eg. well(kuan), even if one finds a well> > by luck it will most probably be dried up.> > This is a very positive and useful start by the seniors to share> > their knowledge with neophytes like myself and i would urge/humbly> > request more amd more people and learned members to shed light on> > these important topics.> >> > Thanks> > respectfully> > jitin syal> >> > , Rajinder Bhatia> > rajinderbhatia2002@ wrote:> >>> >> Respected Friends,> >>> >> Back when Pt jee was alive, I had the need to do this> > remedial measure. Because of the kitchen in US having gas/electric> > stoves, Pt jee had already modified this upaay. He suggested that a> > seperate tawaa (iron griddle/hotplate) be reserved for this purpose.> > At the end of the night cooking session, this tawaa should be heated> > on high heat and some milk should be poured on it (in small> > quantities) to be "burnt." After the cool down, the left-over "burnt> > milk" (if any) should to be scraped and collected. After 43 days, the> > tawaa and the left over burnt milk should be dropped in a> > river/ocean/running water. Please note that the condition of not> > using that particular stove till the next morning still applies.> >>> >> Many remedial measures were thus already modified by Pt jee based> > on new realities. Pt jee was always interested in knowing how life> > was changing in modern times so that he could fine-tune Lal Kitab> > system accordingly, if applicable.> >>> >> Another alternative and very effective measure in lieu of this> > difficult upaay is to bring home a coin (any coin) offered by someone> > else from a temple/religious place. I have seen on the net some> > people making this remedial measure impossible to perform by> > suggesting that the coin should be a copper coin. That is> > absolutely NOT necessary. Where does one find copper coins these> > days? Not at all in India (and rarely in the rest of the world.) Even> > a currency note will do the trick. It needs to be something that> > someone else has offered. Coin/Currency notes are the easiest things> > to bring. My recommendation is to offer a five Rupee note and pick a> > one Rupee coin/note from the temple. In this context, even getting> > prasaad from the temple/gurudwara is helpful. That is why prasaad> > is distributed in temples and they say that one must not refuse to> > accept the prasaad.> >>> >>> >> Respectfully,> >> Rajinder Bhatia> >>> >>> >>> >> On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@ wrote:> >>> >> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@> >> Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE> > JAYE> >> > >> Friday, January 23, 2009, 10:05 AM> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear members,> >> Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra> >> nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in> > my> >> view we can also use it on "burning Dry Cowdung Cakes".> >> Regards> >> Nirmal> >> , "mts3434" <mts3434@ > wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > Members,> >> >> >> > Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki> >> > 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha> > gaya.> >> > Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo> > ki> >> > jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo> > upay> >> > Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya> >> > aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi> > nivedan hai> >> > ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh> > anmol> >> > Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar> > hee upay> >> > ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda> > udha> >> > sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-> >> >> >> > Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.> >> >> >> > Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas> > ke> >> > chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete> > hain ki> >> > raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh> > warning> >> > bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai> > usko> >> > subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).> >> >> >> > Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha> > jaye> >> > ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua )> > rakh kar> >> > uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia> > result> >> > milege.> >> >> >> > Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis> > mein koyle> >> > ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee> > Chander> >> > nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss> > liye hee> >> > mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.> >> >> >> > Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee> > kal> >> > (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna> > denge.> >> >> >> > MAHAJAN.> >> >> >>> >> >> >>

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Respected Iqbal ji,

 

For moon in the 6th house it is said :

 

‘paatal ka pani; kuan; handpump vagairah’ [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 365 ]

 

‘Underground water; well ; handpump etc’

 

Therefore a substitute of a well has to be some thing which gets most of its water from Paatal [ under ground ], secondly it has to be stagnant water and not flowing water.

 

Therefore a river or a canal or rain water as an alternative of a well are ruled out.

 

A village deep pond or a village deep tank can be an alternative of a well because such ponds or tanks have a ‘srota’ of underground water which feeds them even in summers.

 

With regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Iqbal Singh" <punjabilovebug wrote:>> Rivers, rainwater, lakes are good substitutes for wells and are good karakatwa for moon.> > Best Regards,> Iqbal> > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > kulbir bance kulbirbance > Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:10:15 > ; > LK discussion group Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE JAYE> > > LK considers tap water not to be a true karakatwa of moon as it is> from artificial source tank etc. But then canals are also manmade. So> what type of this water represents. > > Kulbir> > > On 1/25/09, jitinsyal82 jitinsyal82 wrote:> > Respected gurujans pranam,> >> > While we are at this useful discussion of modifying the traditional> > remedies to suit our modern lives, i would also request the senior> > members to suggest substitutes/alternatives for places which are very> > hard to find nowadays. for eg. well(kuan), even if one finds a well> > by luck it will most probably be dried up.> > This is a very positive and useful start by the seniors to share> > their knowledge with neophytes like myself and i would urge/humbly> > request more amd more people and learned members to shed light on> > these important topics.> >> > Thanks> > respectfully> > jitin syal> >> > , Rajinder Bhatia> > rajinderbhatia2002@ wrote:> >>> >> Respected Friends,> >>> >> Back when Pt jee was alive, I had the need to do this> > remedial measure. Because of the kitchen in US having gas/electric> > stoves, Pt jee had already modified this upaay. He suggested that a> > seperate tawaa (iron griddle/hotplate) be reserved for this purpose.> > At the end of the night cooking session, this tawaa should be heated> > on high heat and some milk should be poured on it (in small> > quantities) to be "burnt." After the cool down, the left-over "burnt> > milk" (if any) should to be scraped and collected. After 43 days, the> > tawaa and the left over burnt milk should be dropped in a> > river/ocean/running water. Please note that the condition of not> > using that particular stove till the next morning still applies.> >>> >> Many remedial measures were thus already modified by Pt jee based> > on new realities. Pt jee was always interested in knowing how life> > was changing in modern times so that he could fine-tune Lal Kitab> > system accordingly, if applicable.> >>> >> Another alternative and very effective measure in lieu of this> > difficult upaay is to bring home a coin (any coin) offered by someone> > else from a temple/religious place. I have seen on the net some> > people making this remedial measure impossible to perform by> > suggesting that the coin should be a copper coin. That is> > absolutely NOT necessary. Where does one find copper coins these> > days? Not at all in India (and rarely in the rest of the world.) Even> > a currency note will do the trick. It needs to be something that> > someone else has offered. Coin/Currency notes are the easiest things> > to bring. My recommendation is to offer a five Rupee note and pick a> > one Rupee coin/note from the temple. In this context, even getting> > prasaad from the temple/gurudwara is helpful. That is why prasaad> > is distributed in temples and they say that one must not refuse to> > accept the prasaad.> >>> >>> >> Respectfully,> >> Rajinder Bhatia> >>> >>> >>> >> On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@ wrote:> >>> >> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nirbhar@> >> Re: LAL KITAB KE ANUPAM UPAY KAISE KIYE> > JAYE> >> > >> Friday, January 23, 2009, 10:05 AM> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear members,> >> Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra> >> nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds good.in> > my> >> view we can also use it on "burning Dry Cowdung Cakes".> >> Regards> >> Nirmal> >> , "mts3434" <mts3434@ > wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > Members,> >> >> >> > Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko ki> >> > 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha> > gaya.> >> > Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum logo> > ki> >> > jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay jo> > upay> >> > Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee ya> >> > aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi> > nivedan hai> >> > ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh> > anmol> >> > Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar> > hee upay> >> > ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura fayda> > udha> >> > sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-> >> >> >> > Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.> >> >> >> > Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein gas> > ke> >> > chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete> > hain ki> >> > raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh> > warning> >> > bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai> > usko> >> > subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).> >> >> >> > Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh kaha> > jaye> >> > ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua )> > rakh kar> >> > uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia> > result> >> > milege.> >> >> >> > Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis> > mein koyle> >> > ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par hee> > Chander> >> > nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss> > liye hee> >> > mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.> >> >> >> > Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar hee> > kal> >> > (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki prerna> > denge.> >> >> >> > MAHAJAN.> >> >> >>> >> >> >>

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Kulbir Jee,

Aaj ke daur ka yeh sabse aham swal hai, kya rasoi mein khana khaya

ja sakta hai? Aaj sab parivar bikhar chuke hain, joint family kabhi

kabhar hee dekhne ko milti hai, agar kisi se puchha jaye ki kya aap

joint family mein rehte ho to uska jawab hoga haan........ lekin

iska dusra pahlu koi nahi puchhta ki kya rasoi bhee ek hai, agar

puchha jaye to jawab hoga jee nahi , joint family ka matlab aaj ke

zamane mein yehi reh gaya hai ki hum ek makan (gaur karein ki makan

shabad kaha hai GHAR NAHI ) mein rehte hain lekin rasoi sab ki alag

alag hai.

fir joint family kaise hueee?????Log ekk hee makkan mein rehne ko

hee joint family samajh rahe hain.

Rasoi mein khana khai to kaise ?

pehle ghar ki badi aurat khana bana rahi hoti thee tab sara parivar

baith kar khana kha leta thaa ya baari baari se khana kha lete theay.

yeh abb bhee ho sakta hai lekin koi karne ko tayar nahi issi liye

ghar ghar mein kalesh hai aur barkat nahi ( kalesh : Rahu )

Jiska rahu khana no 12 mein ho usko chahiye woh rasoi mein jab khana

khaye (sitting/standing) jaise marzi to usko/unko chahiye ki gas

burner (aag: Mangal)on karke chulhe par chahe tea, milk,tadka ya

kuchh aur kaam jo ki Agg par ho sake zaroor karna chahiy kyonki

yahan par Mangal ka hazir hona zaroori hai.

 

AGAR SARA PARIVAR BHAJAN AUR BHOJAN EK SAATH KARE TO GHAR MEIN SUKH

SHANTI AUR SAMRIDHI KA VAAS HO JAYEGA. AISA MERA VICHAR HAI.

 

MAHAJAN.

 

 

, kulbir bance <kulbirbance

wrote:

>

> Nirmal ji, the logic for the remeay is all important. Like for

malefic

> rahu the remedy for eating in kitchen. But jahan khana banta ho

> implies the presence of fire. Earlier fire was lit at every meal or

> hot smoldering cow dung cakes were always prerent in the chullha.

But

> now we have microwaves. So what is to be done now. Can a gas

burner be

> lit while taking the meal or the food is to be cooked or heated on

it.

> Regardr-kulbir

>

> On 1/23/09, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

> > Dear members,

> > Mahajan ji views are important. It is difficult to make chandra

> > nashtha on gas burner. The method told by mahazan Ji holds

good.in my

> > view we can also use it on " burning Dry Cowdung Cakes " .

> > Regards

> > Nirmal

> > , " mts3434 " <mts3434@> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Members,

> >>

> >> Jyotish ke jankaro ke liye Lal kitab ek anmol Granth hai jisko

ki

> >> 1939,40,41,42 evam 1952 mein Pt. Rup Chand Joshi ji dwara likha

gaya.

> >> Tabh se lekar abb tak bahut saare badlav aa chuke hain. Hum

logo ki

> >> jivan padhiti mein bhee bahut badlav aa chuke hain. Uss samay

jo upay

> >> Lal Kitab mein likhe gaye theay woh uss samay ke anusar mamulee

ya

> >> aasani se uplabhad theay.Mera Lal Kitab ke premion se yehi

nivedan hai

> >> ki woh jab bhee Lal Kitab ka koi upay bataye, uss samay jab yeh

anmol

> >> Granth likha gaya uss samay ka ya vatavaran ka dhayan rakh kar

hee upay

> >> ki vidhi bhee bataye ta ki jo jatak upay kare woh uska pura

fayda udha

> >> sake. Iss baat ko ek udaharan dekar samjha raha hoon:-

> >>

> >> Suraj + Shani ke takrav ke samay Chander nasht kiya jata hai.

> >>

> >> Abb Chander ko kaise nasht kiya jata hai. Aaj ke zamane mein

gas ke

> >> chulhe hain. Aaj Lal Kitab ke jankar isko kuchh iss tarah lete

hain ki

> >> raat ko gas burner par doodh ka chhirkav karva dete hai aur yeh

warning

> >> bhee de dete hain ki jis burner par Chander nasht kiya gaya hai

usko

> >> subah tak na jalaya jaye(jo bilkul theek hai).

> >>

> >> Abb agar aap log jisko yeh upay bata rahen hai usko agar yeh

kaha jaye

> >> ki aap gas burner par ek koyla ( kacha ya hard/ yeh Rahu hua )

rakh kar

> >> uss par Chander nasht karen to mere khayal se bahut hee badia

result

> >> milege.

> >>

> >> Uss samay 1952 tak har ghar mein anghithee hua karti thee jis

mein koyle

> >> ya upple daal kar aag ya anghithee jalayee jati thee uss par

hee Chander

> >> nasht kiya jata thaa.Kyonki iss mein Rahu ka bhee role hai iss

liye hee

> >> mein aisa karne ko keh rahan hoo.

> >>

> >> Iss vishay par kripya apne vichar spasht likhe. Aapke vichar

hee kal

> >> (tomarrow) issi vishay par ek aur upay ki vidhi likhne ki

prerna denge.

> >>

> >> MAHAJAN.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>