Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Sir, An astrologer recently maintained that if the mercury is placed in the 2nd house and Jupiter in the 6th or the 7th then father’s age is doubtful Is it true that the father will die between the age of 16 and 21 of the jatak; if not then at the most between 34 and 36 the father would either die or live a life much worse then death? With respect Girish Raheja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Respected Raheja ji, NO! It is not true. Mercury in the 2nd along with Jupiter in either the 6th house or the 7th by itself can not cause death, or death like existence, of the father UNLESS it is also corroborated through the lines on the palm. The book lays down two other conditions for it; namely that if the line of mind and the line of life are separated at the beginning [near the mount of Jupiter] and also that the line of mind is curved towards the mount of Jupiter, an indication of mercury affecting Jupiter, then only, and only then, there is a possibility of father either dieing early or living a life worse than death. I used the word possibility, and not certainty. If the line of mind and the line of life are separate in the beginning and the line of mind is not curved towards the mount of Jupiter, then the Jatak may not get comfort from the father; it does not necessarily mean that the father will die early, there could be other reasons for not getting comfort from the father. Remember astrology is a science of probabilities and not of certainties. Therefore any astrologer making declarations of a certainty is likely to get embarrassed at the end. Those trying to play Lord Brahma themselves, end up cutting a sorry figure. It is only a Siddha purush who can play Lord Brahma and get away with it, but then he would not need to look at the horoscope any way. An astrologer should be extremely careful about any pronouncements regarding death, because this could lead to a serious mental agony to the jatak. In India it might go uncontested, but if it were in the USA or other western country, it could invite legal action against the astrologer. As a matter of professional ethics an astrologer should not touch upon this topic in the first place. Even if the astrologer notices some such anomaly in the horoscope, and has confirmed it through other indications, then only he should, if at all, use a very subtle way to convey it. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " girish_raheja " <girish_raheja wrote: > > Sir, > > An astrologer recently maintained that if the mercury is placed in the > 2nd house and Jupiter in the 6th or the 7th then father’s age is > doubtful > Is it true that the father will die between the age of 16 and 21 of the > jatak; if not then at the most between 34 and 36 the father would either > die or live a life much worse then death? > > With respect > > Girish Raheja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 dear Varun ji, LK for Budh 2 says "Tota bole Pita bhaage" (chander 8 is shart se bari kar dega). please advise.There is no relation to jupiter mentioned. with best wishes; sincerely, kiranjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Sir Varun ji, Thank you for clearing my doubt. You have said it correctly that the entire conditions given in the Lal Kitab should be quoted when talking about the results of the planets. Thanking you once again, With respect, Girish Raheja , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Raheja ji, > > NO! It is not true. > > Mercury in the 2nd along with Jupiter in either the 6th house or the > 7th by itself can not cause death, or death like existence, of the > father UNLESS it is also corroborated through the lines on the palm. > The book lays down two other conditions for it; namely that if the > line of mind and the line of life are separated at the beginning > [near the mount of Jupiter] and also that the line of mind is curved > towards the mount of Jupiter, an indication of mercury affecting > Jupiter, then only, and only then, there is a possibility of father > either dieing early or living a life worse than death. I used the > word possibility, and not certainty. > > If the line of mind and the line of life are separate in the > beginning and the line of mind is not curved towards the mount of > Jupiter, then the Jatak may not get comfort from the father; it does > not necessarily mean that the father will die early, there could be > other reasons for not getting comfort from the father. > > Remember astrology is a science of probabilities and not of > certainties. Therefore any astrologer making declarations of a > certainty is likely to get embarrassed at the end. Those trying to > play Lord Brahma themselves, end up cutting a sorry figure. It is > only a Siddha purush who can play Lord Brahma and get away with it, > but then he would not need to look at the horoscope any way. > > An astrologer should be extremely careful about any pronouncements > regarding death, because this could lead to a serious mental agony > to the jatak. In India it might go uncontested, but if it were in > the USA or other western country, it could invite legal action > against the astrologer. > > As a matter of professional ethics an astrologer should not touch > upon this topic in the first place. Even if the astrologer notices > some such anomaly in the horoscope, and has confirmed it through > other indications, then only he should, if at all, use a very subtle > way to convey it. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > An astrologer recently maintained that if the mercury is placed in > the > > 2nd house and Jupiter in the 6th or the 7th then father’s age is > > doubtful > > Is it true that the father will die between the age of 16 and 21 > of the > > jatak; if not then at the most between 34 and 36 the father would > either > > die or live a life much worse then death? > > > > With respect > > > > Girish Raheja > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Respected Doctor saheb, It is an important query. Thank you for asking it. tota bole.. The Lal Kitab has prohibited keeping a parrot / sheep/ goat as a pet for those who have mercury in the 2nd house. Bringing home a parrot would amount to strengthening the mercury. If some one brings home a parrot as a pet, then who is the mercury going to adversely affect. There are two planets associated with the 2nd house; namely the venus [ house owner ] and Jupiter [ pakka house]. Since the venus is a friend of mercury it is not going to adversely affect it. Therefore it is going to affect only the jupiter, the father, hence the saying 'tota bole, pitaa bhage’ For this the Lal Kitab has advised the upaya of either moon or Jupiter. A moon placed in the 8th will have an aspect of exaltation [ uchcha ] on the 2nd house. It is this exalted aspect of the moon which will be able to break this jinx. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: > > dear Varun ji, > ? > LK? for Budh 2 says " Tota bole Pita bhaage " (chander 8 is? shart se bari kar dega). > ? > please advise.There is no relation to jupiter mentioned. > with best wishes; > ?sincerely, > kiranjit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Varun Ji, Agar aise samay mein Jupiter khana no 9 mein ho to kya hoga (father ke liye achha hoga ya bura ya yahan par bhee uski umar 16 se 21 saal ki sharat lagoo hogi)kripya detail mein bataye. Mahajan , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Doctor saheb, > > It is an important query. Thank you for asking it. > > tota bole.. The Lal Kitab has prohibited keeping a parrot / sheep/ > goat as a pet for those who have mercury in the 2nd house. Bringing > home a parrot would amount to strengthening the mercury. > > If some one brings home a parrot as a pet, then who is the mercury > going to adversely affect. There are two planets associated with the > 2nd house; namely the venus [ house owner ] and Jupiter [ pakka > house]. Since the venus is a friend of mercury it is not going to > adversely affect it. Therefore it is going to affect only the > jupiter, the father, hence the saying 'tota bole, pitaa bhage’ > > For this the Lal Kitab has advised the upaya of either moon or > Jupiter. A moon placed in the 8th will have an aspect of exaltation > [ uchcha ] on the 2nd house. It is this exalted aspect of the moon > which will be able to break this jinx. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , kiranjit kumar > <kapatjal@> wrote: > > > > dear Varun ji, > > ? > > LK? for Budh 2 says " Tota bole Pita bhaage " (chander 8 is? shart > se bari kar dega). > > ? > > please advise.There is no relation to jupiter mentioned. > > with best wishes; > > ?sincerely, > > kiranjit > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Respected Mahajan ji, In that case, a mercury placed at Dhan Sthan could adversely affect the father in financial terms and not in terms of threat to his life. ' pita ke hathon se dhan daulat ka asar manda hi hoga' [ 1942ed] Regards, Varun Trivedi , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Varun Ji, > > Agar aise samay mein Jupiter khana no 9 mein ho to kya hoga (father > ke liye achha hoga ya bura ya yahan par bhee uski umar 16 se 21 saal > ki sharat lagoo hogi)kripya detail mein bataye. > > > Mahajan > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Doctor saheb, > > > > It is an important query. Thank you for asking it. > > > > tota bole.. The Lal Kitab has prohibited keeping a parrot / sheep/ > > goat as a pet for those who have mercury in the 2nd house. > Bringing > > home a parrot would amount to strengthening the mercury. > > > > If some one brings home a parrot as a pet, then who is the mercury > > going to adversely affect. There are two planets associated with > the > > 2nd house; namely the venus [ house owner ] and Jupiter [ pakka > > house]. Since the venus is a friend of mercury it is not going to > > adversely affect it. Therefore it is going to affect only the > > jupiter, the father, hence the saying 'tota bole, pitaa bhage’ > > > > For this the Lal Kitab has advised the upaya of either moon or > > Jupiter. A moon placed in the 8th will have an aspect of > exaltation > > [ uchcha ] on the 2nd house. It is this exalted aspect of the moon > > which will be able to break this jinx. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar > > <kapatjal@> wrote: > > > > > > dear Varun ji, > > > ? > > > LK? for Budh 2 says " Tota bole Pita bhaage " (chander 8 is? shart > > se bari kar dega). > > > ? > > > please advise.There is no relation to jupiter mentioned. > > > with best wishes; > > > ?sincerely, > > > kiranjit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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