Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Planets : Rasi phal / Grah phal planets When a planet is placed in a house which is not it’s rasi of exaltation or debility, or is not its pakka house or is not it’s house according to the Kal Purush Kundali or exchanges house with some other planet, then such a planet is called that of Rasi phal. A Rasi phal planet is always remediable. On the contrary, if a planet is placed in its own rasi, or rasi of exaltation /debility, or in its own pakka house, or in its own house according to the Kal Purush Kundali or in its house of exaltation / debility according to the Kal Purush Kundali and has not exchanged place with any other planet, then such a planet will be considered as that of Grah phal. A grah phal planet is not remediable. In order to do the remedy of such a planet, the help of other planets may have to be taken. Sun is never of rasi phal, where as moon is always of rasi phal. We have already discussed the following 5 types of the planets earlier : [ 1 ] Andhe grah / blind planets : Discussed in the context of the blind horoscope [ 2 ] Ratandhra grah / night blind planets : Discussed in the context of half blind horoscope. [ 3 ] Rin Pitri grah / planets denoting ancestral debt : Discussed in the context of Rin Pitri horoscope [ 4 ] Dharmi grah / pious planets : Discussed in the context of the pious horoscope. [ 5 ] Naabalig / baalig grah : Discussed in the context of adolescent and mature horoscopes. Now the other categories of the planets: [ 6 ] Saathi grah When the planets exchange their rasi, or rasi of exaltation /debility or houses of exaltation/debility according to Kal Purush Kundali, or exchange their pakka houses, then such planets are called as saathi grah. For example the 4th house is a pakka ghar of the Moon and the 9th house is a pkka ghar of Jupiter, if the moon is placed in the 9th and the Jupiter in the 4th then both these planets will become saathi grah. [ 7 ] Muqabile ke grah : When an enemy planet is placed in the jar [root] of any two friendly planets, the relationship of friendship gets affected, and such two friendly planets might become hostile to each other. For example, if a venus is placed in the 6th house [house of mercury] and the Sun gets placed in the 7th house [the jar /root of the venus] then there could be a hostility between mercury and venus although both of them are good friends. [ 8 ] Qayam grah : A planet is called fully established [ qayam ] if it has no association with an enemy planet either through placement or through aspect. By placement it is meant that such a planet should not be in rasi of an enemy planet, nor in the pakka house of an enemy planet, nor in the house of an enemy according to the Kal Purush Kundali. Such a fully established planet is considered as strong and gives full results of the house it is in. [ 9 ] Grah ka ghar: The Rasi which belongs to the planet is called the grah ka ghar [house of the planet ]. For example the Gemini and Virgo are the rasi of Mercury; therefore these two rasi will be called as the mercury ka ghar. Similarly the 3rd house and the 6th house of the Kal Purush Kundali will also be known as mercury ka ghar. [ 10 ] Ghar ka grah : This simply means the pakka ghar of the planet. For example the 2nd, 5th, 9th, and 12th are the pakka ghar of Jupiter, therefore Jupiter will be known as a ghar ka grah for these houses. [ 11 ] Uchcha /neech grah â€" exalted / debilitated planet It is exactly the same as in traditional vedic astrology. For example the cancer is the sign of exaltation for Jupiter while the Capricorn is the sign of debility. Jupiter in Cancer will be known as an exalted planet, while in Capricorn it will be known as in debility. Bhooshan Priya Next : Planets contd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear pt. Bhooshan Priya, Your explanation of LK-grammar related to the planets is in fact very good and right to the point. I do however have a question. In connection to doubtful planets and Rasi-phal you have given a somewhat strange statement: " The Sun is never of Rasi-phal, where the Moon is always of Rasi-phal " . I can't remember ever reading this before. Where exactly did you find this statement? I hope you will also discuss about 'Equivalent planets'. I have found these to be very useful for judging friendly and enemical influences, and also they are used in connection with 'Mahadasa', which I also hope you will discuss. A number of books have been written about Lal Kitab, but when it comes to 'Mahadasa' they keep silent or simply repeat LK-1952 almost word by word. They never give any kind of self experienced information, as if they never tried it for themselves. However, I have tried 'Mahadasa' and found it to be very useful, though malefic... Best regards, Finn Wandahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Finn ji, Pt. Krishna Ashant ji, whom I respect as a learned Lal Kitab scholar, is of the view that the Sun should always be treated as of Grah phal and the moon as that of Rasi phal. Other commentators of the book also have a similar view. I presume [ I said presume ] that it could have been drawn from the traditional concept where in a kundali the Sun is considered as the Raja [ king ] and the Moon its Vajeer [ prime minister ]. I believe that the above inference might have been drawn from the statement : grah phal ko raja kahen to rasi phal uska saathi vajeer hoga’ -- If the grah phal is the king then the rasi phal is its companion prime minister. I have no idea what you mean by equivalent planets, or may be I know the concept by some other name. However I would request you to do a small write up, if you can, on the topic for the group. Yes, I will discuss the 35 year dasha cycle [not to be confused with the 35 years age cycle ] and the way I calculate it. How to calculate the 35 year dasha system had been a puzzle which has not been solved as yet. I have my solution for it which I will share with the group. As for the 120 year Vinshottari dasha I go by the Vedic dasha system because for the Vedic system I have got quite a lot of literature in Sanskrit to go by. I have found the classical literature on the vinshottari dasha extremely valuable and useful. I will also explain why and where I use the 35 year dasha cycle , and why and where I use the traditional Vedic Vinshottari dasha system. Even otherwise in the horoscopes analyzed and included in the Lal Kitab, I have not come across any proof of Pt. Rupchand ji having used either of the two dasha systems namely the 35 year dasha system or the 120 year dasha system. Had he made some reference to either of the dasha systems in his analysed horoscopes; it would have been very easy for us to work out the methodology through reverse engineering. God bless you, Bhooshan Priya , " Finn Wandahl " <finn.wandahl wrote: > > Dear pt. Bhooshan Priya, > > Your explanation of LK-grammar related to the planets is in fact very > good and right to the point. > > I do however have a question. In connection to doubtful planets and > Rasi-phal you have given a somewhat strange statement: " The Sun is > never of Rasi-phal, where the Moon is always of Rasi-phal " . I can't > remember ever reading this before. Where exactly did you find this > statement? > > I hope you will also discuss about 'Equivalent planets'. I have found > these to be very useful for judging friendly and enemical influences, > and also they are used in connection with 'Mahadasa', which I also > hope you will discuss. > > A number of books have been written about Lal Kitab, but when it comes > to 'Mahadasa' they keep silent or simply repeat LK-1952 almost word by > word. They never give any kind of self experienced information, as if > they never tried it for themselves. However, I have tried 'Mahadasa' > and found it to be very useful, though malefic... > > > Best regards, > Finn Wandahl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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