LK Grammar : Classification of horoscopes - 3

[Guest guest]

Rin Pitri Kundali

 

[ Horoscope denoting ancestral debt ]

 

Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame

earned by our ancestors we are equally liable

to suffer and pay for their misdeeds too. The

dosh created as a result of the bad deeds by our

ancestors is paitrik-dosh or pitra-rin . Pitri rin is

different from the pitri-shraap or the curse of

the ancestors. The pitri-shraap is a result of the

ancestors cursing their progeny for having

misbehaved with them , having ignored them

or for not having followed the family traditions.

 

Even in the legal system we are held responsible

for the debts of our forefathers similarly in

astrology too we have to pay their debts.

 

Brahat parashar gives 14 kinds of pitra-dosh,

Mantreshwar in Phal Deepika says that rahu in

the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar

calls it sarp-shraap. In the traditional vedic

astrology Rahu is considered the main cause

of these dosh .

 

Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this

problem in great detail along with its remedies .

 

I quote from Lal Kitab :

 

{ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,

budh baitha jad saathi ho

rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,

asar grah sab nisphal ho ;

saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

drishti magar wo chhupta ho

paanch ,barah, do, nau koi

mande, rin pitri ban jaata ho }

 

These lines describe the THREE conditions

that have to be fulfilled before a horoscope is

declared to have a pitra-rin:

 

Condition # 1

 

ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha ,

budh baitha jad saathi ho

 

 

If there is a planet in the 9th house and

Mercury occupies the rashi { sign } of that planet

then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For example jupiter

is in the 9th house and if mercury is in either

sagittarius or pisces , or suppose venus is in

the 9th house and mercury is placed in either

taurus or libra then there will be an indication

of a possible pitri rin

 

Condition # 2

 

saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

drishti magar wo chhuptaa ho

 

when the enemy planets occupy a

rashi and is not aspected by the rashi lord ,

the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if

the enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or

mars occupy either makar or kumbha and if the

Saturn does not have an aspect on that rasi , there

could be a possibility of a pitri rin .

 

Condition # 3

 

paanch barah nau do koi mande ,

rin pitra ban jaata ho

 

if there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus

or mercury in the 5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then

also it will be a pitr-rin kundali .

 

{of the three couplets the first two talk of the

rasi and the third one talks of the pakka ghar of Jupiter.}

 

 

The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for

pitr-rin arising out of such situations . It provides

the detailed cause of these debts, the planet

involved and its remedies. I have not seen

such a detail in any other book on astrology.

 

Now how to go about suggesting upaya

for Pitri-Rin? It is a three step process :

 

Step 1

 

Make sure that all the three conditions laid

down are fulfilled. If only one or two conditions

are fulfilled then the horoscope will not have a

pitri Rin dosh. All the three conditions have

to be fulfilled. This will indicate the planet

causing the rin [ debt ].

 

Step 2

 

If all the three conditions are fulfilled and the planet

identified, then the next step is to verify the

indications of pitri rin for that particular

planet. The Lal Kitab gives a detailed list of

indications for each planet causing pitri rin

 

Step 3

 

After having completed the first two steps,

it becomes obvious that the native is suffering

from a rin. The third step is to confirm this

phenomenon from a few other horoscopes

of the family members. If there is a rin

on the family it should be reflected in a few,

if not all , horoscopes from the same family.

At times, the rin is not reflected in the

horoscopes of other members. Nevertheless,

the upaya should be done. The third step is

primarily to ascertain the severity and the

expanse of the curse.

 

Those who might be interested in the indications

of pitri rin and the upaya can read from the

Lal Kitab. I have given the interpretation of the

couplets from the book on pitri rin.

 

God bless you

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

Next : Dharmi Kundali [ pious horoscope ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Bhooshan Priya,

 

In condition No 2. Do we will take the aspect of planets as per

traditional astrology or any special aspect directed in Lal-kitab.

 

With warm regards,

Vijay Goel

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay ji,

 

I prefer using the traditional astrology aspects.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Vijay Goel <goyalvj

wrote:

>

> Respected Bhooshan Priya,

>

> In condition No 2. Do we will take the aspect of planets as per

> traditional astrology or any special aspect directed in Lal-kitab.

>

> With warm regards,

> Vijay Goel

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Priya-ji,

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

With warms regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur