LK Grammar : Classification of horoscopes - 2

[Guest guest]

Half-blind Horoscope

 

Half-blind horoscope, is yet another of the Lal Kitab

concepts. I am not quite happy with the word half-blind.

It is a loose translation of the Hindi word Ratandhra

which means one who can not see at night.

In the North-west India the word for ratandhra is nheorata.

In the Lal Kitab the reference to this half blind

horoscope occurs thrice.

 

[ 1 ] Farman 14 : teve ki kismein

 

{ page 226 line # 2 urdu ed 1952}

 

saat shani ho sooraj chauthe, aadha andha nheorata ho

 

 

[ 2 ] There is again a reference to it in the section on

Sun in the 4th house:

 

{ page 324 line # 8 urdu ed 1952 }

 

mand papi aulad ho mandi, nheorata shani ghar saat ka ho

 

[ 3 ] A foot note # 14 on the section for Saturn in

the 7th house

 

[ page 620 urdu ed 1952]

 

hijara nikamma aadmi- nheorate wala teva

{ aise teve mein raat ke waqt grah kaam nahi karte }

- sooraj # 4

 

 

Now how does a Saturn placed in the 7th house effect

a Sun placed in the 4th house ? Saturn in the 7th house

is considered as exalted { LK concept}. In Vedic

astrology the Saturn in the 7th becomes digbali

{directional strength }. Saturn becomes all the

more powerful at night because of kaal bal [ time strength].

 

Now such a strong Saturn from the 7th has its 10th aspect

on the Sun in the 4th {vedic astrology aspect }.

 

Thus an aspect of the Saturn on the 4th house

[ domestic peace & comforts ] will have adverse effects

on the significations of the 4th house. The aspect

of the Saturn on the Sun [ soul ], its enemy, will destroy the

significations of the Sun. The same aspect of the

Saturn on the 4th house , a house of the moon

[ peace of the mind ], will weaken the moon.

Sun placed in the 4th has an aspect on the 10th house,

this aspect could also adversely affect the profession.

 

Summarising : this combination would adversely

affect the significations of the 4th house, of the sun,

of the moon , and even of the 10th house to some extant.

 

Now why the term andharata or ratandhra or getting

blind at night has been used for such an horoscope?

 

Saturn is the karak of vision, sight, nazar. Sun and the

Moon are the karak of the eye balls. The Sun represents

light, the moon the light at night. The 4th house is the

mid-night. When the Saturn over shadows these two

it would adversely affect the vision, nazar. Here the

words vision and nazar are symbolic, it means perception,

ability to think clearly In this way, not only the peace

and comfort of the home will be jeopardized, even the

perception could be warped. A person with a half blind

horoscope will not be able to take a right decision

specially during the night.

 

The result of this combination :

 

A person with this combination should not start any new

project or venture at night. He should not make plans for

any new project at night. Such projects might run into

difficulties and may not be successful.

 

Therefore a senior executive of a firm, with a half blind

horoscope, should never have business meetings at the

dinner time. Such an executive should always avoid

any decision taking at night.

 

Upaya :

 

In this situation the Sun is already well placed in the

4th house and will not need any upaya. It is the Saturn

in the 7th for which an upaya will have to be done.

 

The upaya for the Saturn in the 7th and their logic

has already been discussed in the group and can

be read from the archives.

 

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

Next : Rin Pitri horoscope [ horoscope denoting ancestral debt ]

 

[Guest guest]

Sir,

 

If the aspect of Saturn on the sun placed in the 4th causes a half

blind horoscope, would not the same thing happen when the Saturn in

the 7th house aspects the sun in the 1st house or the 9th house.

 

Respectfully,

 

Girish Raheja

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " "

< wrote:

>

>

> Half-blind Horoscope

>

>

>

> Half-blind horoscope, is yet another of the Lal Kitab

>

> concepts. I am not quite happy with the word half-blind.

>

> It is a loose translation of the Hindi word Ratandhra

>

> which means one who can not see at night.

>

> In the North-west India the word for ratandhra is nheorata.

>

> In the Lal Kitab the reference to this half blind

>

> horoscope occurs thrice.

>

>

>

> [ 1 ] Farman 14 : teve ki kismein

>

>

>

> { page 226 line # 2 urdu ed 1952}

>

>

>

> saat shani ho sooraj chauthe, aadha andha nheorata ho

>

>

>

>

>

> [ 2 ] There is again a reference to it in the section on

>

> Sun in the 4th house:

>

>

>

> { page 324 line # 8 urdu ed 1952 }

>

>

>

> mand papi aulad ho mandi, nheorata shani ghar saat ka ho

>

>

>

> [ 3 ] A foot note # 14 on the section for Saturn in

>

> the 7th house

>

>

>

> [ page 620 urdu ed 1952]

>

>

>

> hijara nikamma aadmi- nheorate wala teva

>

> { aise teve mein raat ke waqt grah kaam nahi karte }

>

> - sooraj # 4

>

>

>

>

>

> Now how does a Saturn placed in the 7th house effect

>

> a Sun placed in the 4th house ? Saturn in the 7th house

>

> is considered as exalted { LK concept}. In Vedic

>

> astrology the Saturn in the 7th becomes digbali

>

> {directional strength }. Saturn becomes all the

>

> more powerful at night because of kaal bal [ time strength].

>

>

>

> Now such a strong Saturn from the 7th has its 10th aspect

>

> on the Sun in the 4th {vedic astrology aspect }.

>

>

>

> Thus an aspect of the Saturn on the 4th house

>

> [ domestic peace & comforts ] will have adverse effects

>

> on the significations of the 4th house. The aspect

>

> of the Saturn on the Sun [ soul ], its enemy, will destroy the

>

> significations of the Sun. The same aspect of the

>

> Saturn on the 4th house , a house of the moon

>

> [ peace of the mind ], will weaken the moon.

>

> Sun placed in the 4th has an aspect on the 10th house,

>

> this aspect could also adversely affect the profession.

>

>

>

> Summarising : this combination would adversely

>

> affect the significations of the 4th house, of the sun,

>

> of the moon , and even of the 10th house to some extant.

>

>

>

> Now why the term andharata or ratandhra or getting

>

> blind at night has been used for such an horoscope?

>

>

>

> Saturn is the karak of vision, sight, nazar. Sun and the

>

> Moon are the karak of the eye balls. The Sun represents

>

> light, the moon the light at night. The 4th house is the

>

> mid-night. When the Saturn over shadows these two

>

> it would adversely affect the vision, nazar. Here the

>

> words vision and nazar are symbolic, it means perception,

>

> ability to think clearly In this way, not only the peace

>

> and comfort of the home will be jeopardized, even the

>

> perception could be warped. A person with a half blind

>

> horoscope will not be able to take a right decision

>

> specially during the night.

>

>

>

> The result of this combination :

>

>

>

> A person with this combination should not start any new

>

> project or venture at night. He should not make plans for

>

> any new project at night. Such projects might run into

>

> difficulties and may not be successful.

>

>

>

> Therefore a senior executive of a firm, with a half blind

>

> horoscope, should never have business meetings at the

>

> dinner time. Such an executive should always avoid

>

> any decision taking at night.

>

>

>

> Upaya :

>

>

>

> In this situation the Sun is already well placed in the

>

> 4th house and will not need any upaya. It is the Saturn

>

> in the 7th for which an upaya will have to be done.

>

>

>

> The upaya for the Saturn in the 7th and their logic

>

> has already been discussed in the group and can

>

> be read from the archives.

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhooshan Priya

>

>

>

> Next : Rin Pitri horoscope [ horoscope denoting ancestral debt ]

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Bhooshan Priya,

 

Half-blind, Semi-blind or Night-blind horoscopes - whatever we call

them - are a very interesting topic, and thank you very much for

bringing it up for discussion.

 

As you have rightly stated, this condition occurs when Saturn is in

the 7th and Sun is in the 4th house at the same time.

 

I do agree with you a long way in your explanation, but I see no

reason for introducing tools from the traditional Vedic-astrology,

such as traditional Vedic aspects or Shadbala (six-fold strength) like

digbala and Kaalabala, in order to explain this condition and its

rationale.

 

I think a most reasonable explanation to half-blind horoscopes can be

found within the pages of Lal Kitab itself.

 

In LK-1952, in the chapter about the 12 fixed houses (under 4th

house), it is stated that the 4th house is the foundation or platform

of the 10th house. I think this is why an enemy to Saturn, like the

Sun, gives malefic effect to the 10th house. It is even stated (under

10th house) that if no planets are in the 10th, then the planets in

the 4th cannot give any benefical results. Thus in my opinion the

concept of Foundation or Platform of houses actually explains this.

 

It is further stated that a planet placed in the 4th gets the

temperament of the Moon, but its effect goes to the house where Saturn

is placed. Now, in case of Half-blind horoscopes, Saturn is placed in

the 7th house. Then the Sun, as placed in the 4th, will give its

effect as if it was in the 7th house, where the Sun gets debilitated.

In my opinion this completely explains the rationale of half-blind

horoscopes.

 

If we read under Saturn in the 7th house, it is stated that if the Sun

is in the 4th at the same time, then it indicates an " Eunuch, Useless

man and that the planets becomes dormant or sleeping at night " . This

seems to hint at the possibility that the persons sexual

power/enjoyments and perhaps his ability to have children could be

affected.

 

The reason why " Night " has been specially mentioned in connection to

this condition is simply the fact that when the Sun is in the 4th

house it is the middle of the night.

 

In my opinion the " sight " of Saturn, often mentioned in Lal Kitab, has

much to do with the discriminative powers and good judgement of a

person rather than his/her physical eye-sight. It is said (under

Saturn in the 10th) that enemy planets make Saturn blind, which I

think, means Lack of good judgement. It is also stated that such a

person will " hear with his eyes " , which I also think could hints at

this interpretation.

 

Best wishes,

Finn Wandahl

[Guest guest]

Dear Finn ji,

 

Thank you so much for participating and also adding on to what I had

said. Yes, your explanation makes sense.

Just to remind you once again, we do not accept the Lal Kitab as a

system different or separate from the traditional Vedic astrology.

Therefore the use of the `tools' you have mentioned are intentional.

The explanation drawn from the tradition too is intentional.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Finn Wandahl "

<finn.wandahl wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Bhooshan Priya,

>

> Half-blind, Semi-blind or Night-blind horoscopes - whatever we call

> them - are a very interesting topic, and thank you very much for

> bringing it up for discussion.

>

> As you have rightly stated, this condition occurs when Saturn is in

> the 7th and Sun is in the 4th house at the same time.

>

> I do agree with you a long way in your explanation, but I see no

> reason for introducing tools from the traditional Vedic-astrology,

> such as traditional Vedic aspects or Shadbala (six-fold strength)

like

> digbala and Kaalabala, in order to explain this condition and its

> rationale.

>

> I think a most reasonable explanation to half-blind horoscopes can

be

> found within the pages of Lal Kitab itself.

>

> In LK-1952, in the chapter about the 12 fixed houses (under 4th

> house), it is stated that the 4th house is the foundation or

platform

> of the 10th house. I think this is why an enemy to Saturn, like the

> Sun, gives malefic effect to the 10th house. It is even stated

(under

> 10th house) that if no planets are in the 10th, then the planets in

> the 4th cannot give any benefical results. Thus in my opinion the

> concept of Foundation or Platform of houses actually explains this.

>

> It is further stated that a planet placed in the 4th gets the

> temperament of the Moon, but its effect goes to the house where

Saturn

> is placed. Now, in case of Half-blind horoscopes, Saturn is placed

in

> the 7th house. Then the Sun, as placed in the 4th, will give its

> effect as if it was in the 7th house, where the Sun gets

debilitated.

> In my opinion this completely explains the rationale of half-blind

> horoscopes.

>

> If we read under Saturn in the 7th house, it is stated that if the

Sun

> is in the 4th at the same time, then it indicates an " Eunuch,

Useless

> man and that the planets becomes dormant or sleeping at night " .

This

> seems to hint at the possibility that the persons sexual

> power/enjoyments and perhaps his ability to have children could be

> affected.

>

> The reason why " Night " has been specially mentioned in connection

to

> this condition is simply the fact that when the Sun is in the 4th

> house it is the middle of the night.

>

> In my opinion the " sight " of Saturn, often mentioned in Lal Kitab,

has

> much to do with the discriminative powers and good judgement of a

> person rather than his/her physical eye-sight. It is said (under

> Saturn in the 10th) that enemy planets make Saturn blind, which I

> think, means Lack of good judgement. It is also stated that such a

> person will " hear with his eyes " , which I also think could hints at

> this interpretation.

>

> Best wishes,

> Finn Wandahl

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Girish ji,

 

Why doesn't the same thing happen if the Sun is placed

in the 1st house which then will have the 7th aspect of Saturn ?

 

Because the Sun is placed in its house of exaltation and

its pakka ghar hence strong and not susceptible to the attack

of saturn.

 

What if the Sun is placed in the 9th house, it will be under

the 3rd aspect of the Saturn placed in the 7th ?

 

Because the Sun in the 9th is in the pakka ghar of Jupiter.

It is assumed that the Sun is under the protection of Guru

{ guru sharan }therefore the Saturn can not harm the Sun.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " girish_raheja "

<girish_raheja wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> If the aspect of Saturn on the sun placed in the 4th causes a half

> blind horoscope, would not the same thing happen when the Saturn

in

> the 7th house aspects the sun in the 1st house or the 9th house.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

>

>

, " "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Half-blind Horoscope

> >

> >

> >

> > Half-blind horoscope, is yet another of the Lal Kitab

> >

> > concepts. I am not quite happy with the word half-blind.

> >

> > It is a loose translation of the Hindi word Ratandhra

> >

> > which means one who can not see at night.

> >

> > In the North-west India the word for ratandhra is nheorata.

> >

> > In the Lal Kitab the reference to this half blind

> >

> > horoscope occurs thrice.

> >

> >

> >

> > [ 1 ] Farman 14 : teve ki kismein

> >

> >

> >

> > { page 226 line # 2 urdu ed 1952}

> >

> >

> >

> > saat shani ho sooraj chauthe, aadha andha nheorata ho

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [ 2 ] There is again a reference to it in the section on

> >

> > Sun in the 4th house:

> >

> >

> >

> > { page 324 line # 8 urdu ed 1952 }

> >

> >

> >

> > mand papi aulad ho mandi, nheorata shani ghar saat ka ho

> >

> >

> >

> > [ 3 ] A foot note # 14 on the section for Saturn in

> >

> > the 7th house

> >

> >

> >

> > [ page 620 urdu ed 1952]

> >

> >

> >

> > hijara nikamma aadmi- nheorate wala teva

> >

> > { aise teve mein raat ke waqt grah kaam nahi karte }

> >

> > - sooraj # 4

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Now how does a Saturn placed in the 7th house effect

> >

> > a Sun placed in the 4th house ? Saturn in the 7th house

> >

> > is considered as exalted { LK concept}. In Vedic

> >

> > astrology the Saturn in the 7th becomes digbali

> >

> > {directional strength }. Saturn becomes all the

> >

> > more powerful at night because of kaal bal [ time strength].

> >

> >

> >

> > Now such a strong Saturn from the 7th has its 10th aspect

> >

> > on the Sun in the 4th {vedic astrology aspect }.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thus an aspect of the Saturn on the 4th house

> >

> > [ domestic peace & comforts ] will have adverse effects

> >

> > on the significations of the 4th house. The aspect

> >

> > of the Saturn on the Sun [ soul ], its enemy, will destroy the

> >

> > significations of the Sun. The same aspect of the

> >

> > Saturn on the 4th house , a house of the moon

> >

> > [ peace of the mind ], will weaken the moon.

> >

> > Sun placed in the 4th has an aspect on the 10th house,

> >

> > this aspect could also adversely affect the profession.

> >

> >

> >

> > Summarising : this combination would adversely

> >

> > affect the significations of the 4th house, of the sun,

> >

> > of the moon , and even of the 10th house to some extant.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now why the term andharata or ratandhra or getting

> >

> > blind at night has been used for such an horoscope?

> >

> >

> >

> > Saturn is the karak of vision, sight, nazar. Sun and the

> >

> > Moon are the karak of the eye balls. The Sun represents

> >

> > light, the moon the light at night. The 4th house is the

> >

> > mid-night. When the Saturn over shadows these two

> >

> > it would adversely affect the vision, nazar. Here the

> >

> > words vision and nazar are symbolic, it means perception,

> >

> > ability to think clearly In this way, not only the peace

> >

> > and comfort of the home will be jeopardized, even the

> >

> > perception could be warped. A person with a half blind

> >

> > horoscope will not be able to take a right decision

> >

> > specially during the night.

> >

> >

> >

> > The result of this combination :

> >

> >

> >

> > A person with this combination should not start any new

> >

> > project or venture at night. He should not make plans for

> >

> > any new project at night. Such projects might run into

> >

> > difficulties and may not be successful.

> >

> >

> >

> > Therefore a senior executive of a firm, with a half blind

> >

> > horoscope, should never have business meetings at the

> >

> > dinner time. Such an executive should always avoid

> >

> > any decision taking at night.

> >

> >

> >

> > Upaya :

> >

> >

> >

> > In this situation the Sun is already well placed in the

> >

> > 4th house and will not need any upaya. It is the Saturn

> >

> > in the 7th for which an upaya will have to be done.

> >

> >

> >

> > The upaya for the Saturn in the 7th and their logic

> >

> > has already been discussed in the group and can

> >

> > be read from the archives.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhooshan Priya

> >

> >

> >

> > Next : Rin Pitri horoscope [ horoscope denoting ancestral

debt ]

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhhooshan Priya,

 

Thank you, I perfectly understand your point of view. But in case of a

half-blind horoscopes, would you not consider the remedy of Sun in the

7th house?

 

Best wishes,

Finn Wandahl

 

 

 

, " "

< wrote:

>

> Dear Finn ji,

>

> Thank you so much for participating and also adding on to what I had

> said. Yes, your explanation makes sense.

> Just to remind you once again, we do not accept the Lal Kitab as a

> system different or separate from the traditional Vedic astrology.

> Therefore the use of the `tools' you have mentioned are intentional.

> The explanation drawn from the tradition too is intentional.

>

> God bless you,

>

> Bhooshan Priya

>

>

>

, " Finn Wandahl "

> <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Bhooshan Priya,

> >

> > Half-blind, Semi-blind or Night-blind horoscopes - whatever we call

> > them - are a very interesting topic, and thank you very much for

> > bringing it up for discussion.

> >

> > As you have rightly stated, this condition occurs when Saturn is in

> > the 7th and Sun is in the 4th house at the same time.

> >

> > I do agree with you a long way in your explanation, but I see no

> > reason for introducing tools from the traditional Vedic-astrology,

> > such as traditional Vedic aspects or Shadbala (six-fold strength)

> like

> > digbala and Kaalabala, in order to explain this condition and its

> > rationale.

> >

> > I think a most reasonable explanation to half-blind horoscopes can

> be

> > found within the pages of Lal Kitab itself.

> >

> > In LK-1952, in the chapter about the 12 fixed houses (under 4th

> > house), it is stated that the 4th house is the foundation or

> platform

> > of the 10th house. I think this is why an enemy to Saturn, like the

> > Sun, gives malefic effect to the 10th house. It is even stated

> (under

> > 10th house) that if no planets are in the 10th, then the planets in

> > the 4th cannot give any benefical results. Thus in my opinion the

> > concept of Foundation or Platform of houses actually explains this.

> >

> > It is further stated that a planet placed in the 4th gets the

> > temperament of the Moon, but its effect goes to the house where

> Saturn

> > is placed. Now, in case of Half-blind horoscopes, Saturn is placed

> in

> > the 7th house. Then the Sun, as placed in the 4th, will give its

> > effect as if it was in the 7th house, where the Sun gets

> debilitated.

> > In my opinion this completely explains the rationale of half-blind

> > horoscopes.

> >

> > If we read under Saturn in the 7th house, it is stated that if the

> Sun

> > is in the 4th at the same time, then it indicates an " Eunuch,

> Useless

> > man and that the planets becomes dormant or sleeping at night " .

> This

> > seems to hint at the possibility that the persons sexual

> > power/enjoyments and perhaps his ability to have children could be

> > affected.

> >

> > The reason why " Night " has been specially mentioned in connection

> to

> > this condition is simply the fact that when the Sun is in the 4th

> > house it is the middle of the night.

> >

> > In my opinion the " sight " of Saturn, often mentioned in Lal Kitab,

> has

> > much to do with the discriminative powers and good judgement of a

> > person rather than his/her physical eye-sight. It is said (under

> > Saturn in the 10th) that enemy planets make Saturn blind, which I

> > think, means Lack of good judgement. It is also stated that such a

> > person will " hear with his eyes " , which I also think could hints at

> > this interpretation.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Finn Wandahl

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Finn ji,

 

Yes an upaya will be necessary if the Native has any complaint about

his eyes.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Finn Wandahl "

<finn.wandahl wrote:

>

> Dear Bhhooshan Priya,

>

> Thank you, I perfectly understand your point of view. But in case

of a

> half-blind horoscopes, would you not consider the remedy of Sun in

the

> 7th house?

>

> Best wishes,

> Finn Wandahl

>

>

>

> , " "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Finn ji,

> >

> > Thank you so much for participating and also adding on to what I

had

> > said. Yes, your explanation makes sense.

> > Just to remind you once again, we do not accept the Lal Kitab as

a

> > system different or separate from the traditional Vedic

astrology.

> > Therefore the use of the `tools' you have mentioned are

intentional.

> > The explanation drawn from the tradition too is intentional.

> >

> > God bless you,

> >

> > Bhooshan Priya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Finn Wandahl "

> > <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Bhooshan Priya,

> > >

> > > Half-blind, Semi-blind or Night-blind horoscopes - whatever we

call

> > > them - are a very interesting topic, and thank you very much

for

> > > bringing it up for discussion.

> > >

> > > As you have rightly stated, this condition occurs when Saturn

is in

> > > the 7th and Sun is in the 4th house at the same time.

> > >

> > > I do agree with you a long way in your explanation, but I see

no

> > > reason for introducing tools from the traditional Vedic-

astrology,

> > > such as traditional Vedic aspects or Shadbala (six-fold

strength)

> > like

> > > digbala and Kaalabala, in order to explain this condition and

its

> > > rationale.

> > >

> > > I think a most reasonable explanation to half-blind horoscopes

can

> > be

> > > found within the pages of Lal Kitab itself.

> > >

> > > In LK-1952, in the chapter about the 12 fixed houses (under 4th

> > > house), it is stated that the 4th house is the foundation or

> > platform

> > > of the 10th house. I think this is why an enemy to Saturn,

like the

> > > Sun, gives malefic effect to the 10th house. It is even stated

> > (under

> > > 10th house) that if no planets are in the 10th, then the

planets in

> > > the 4th cannot give any benefical results. Thus in my opinion

the

> > > concept of Foundation or Platform of houses actually explains

this.

> > >

> > > It is further stated that a planet placed in the 4th gets the

> > > temperament of the Moon, but its effect goes to the house

where

> > Saturn

> > > is placed. Now, in case of Half-blind horoscopes, Saturn is

placed

> > in

> > > the 7th house. Then the Sun, as placed in the 4th, will give

its

> > > effect as if it was in the 7th house, where the Sun gets

> > debilitated.

> > > In my opinion this completely explains the rationale of half-

blind

> > > horoscopes.

> > >

> > > If we read under Saturn in the 7th house, it is stated that if

the

> > Sun

> > > is in the 4th at the same time, then it indicates an " Eunuch,

> > Useless

> > > man and that the planets becomes dormant or sleeping at

night " .

> > This

> > > seems to hint at the possibility that the persons sexual

> > > power/enjoyments and perhaps his ability to have children

could be

> > > affected.

> > >

> > > The reason why " Night " has been specially mentioned in

connection

> > to

> > > this condition is simply the fact that when the Sun is in the

4th

> > > house it is the middle of the night.

> > >

> > > In my opinion the " sight " of Saturn, often mentioned in Lal

Kitab,

> > has

> > > much to do with the discriminative powers and good judgement

of a

> > > person rather than his/her physical eye-sight. It is said

(under

> > > Saturn in the 10th) that enemy planets make Saturn blind,

which I

> > > think, means Lack of good judgement. It is also stated that

such a

> > > person will " hear with his eyes " , which I also think could

hints at

> > > this interpretation.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Finn Wandahl

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear members,

 

Actually Lal Kitab (1952) provides a very interesting and useful

classification of horoscopes into five differends types, which can be

found out if and when the book is read and researched with a sharp

eye. I have found them to run like this:

 

1) Blind Horoscope: Mutual enemies in the 10th house makes the chart

blind. The combinations are: a) Merc with Moon, Mars or Jup, b) Ven

with Sun, Moon, Jup or Rahu, c) Sat with Sun, Moon or Rahu and finally

Ketu with Sun, Moon or Mars. All planets, incl. Saturn, even if

exalted, would behave like the blind people and Sat will be malefic.

obviously the powers of discrimination, good judgement and

profession/career all gets badly affected.

 

2) Half-blind, Semi-blind or Night-blind Horoscopes: This happens

f.ex. when Saturn is in the 7th and Sun is in the 4th. According to

Lal Kitab, the results of Sat in 7th/Sun in 4th: Eunuch, impotent,

useless man, night-blindness, planets are dormant at night, children

unlucky and of vice deeds. (Similar results if Sat with in 7th/Moon in

1st or Ven in 5th or Sun in 4th and Rahu-Ketu/Sat malefic). The

rationale of Half-blind horoscopes seems to be that Sun in the 4th

(Foundation of 10th) " gets the temper of the Moon, but its effect goes

to the house where Saturn is placed " , which in this case is the 7th,

where Sun is debilitated.

 

3) Adult Horoscopes: If Sun is in 1st, 5th or 11th or Merc is in 6th

house, such a chart is adult. The effect of Adult chart is automatic

and full. There is no need of any special effort. This is a person of

maturity and responsibility who is capable of independent acting and

thinking.

 

4) Adolescent or Non-adult Horoscopes. If the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10

houses are blank or occupied by Mercury or by evil planets, Sat, Rahu

or Ketu, such a chart would be considered Non-adult. The condition

(longevity) of the person will remain uncertain upto the age of 12.

Such a person will have to seek assistance of others and will remain

adolescent, lacking in maturity, like a teenager, throughout life.

 

5) Religious Horoscopes. If Sat is in 11th or supported by Jup, and

Rahu & Ketu are with Moon or in 4th/10th, such a chart is religious.

The person will have a religious bent of mind, will be careful of

worldly gossip and able to steer clear from evil. A religious chart

gives solace and compassion, and such a person will always be helpful

and a source of comfort for others.

 

Many chart will be found belonging to one of these five types. In such

cases the explanations given are very helpful in showing some very

important trends in the chart, which, if ignored, would mean that

something very vital or basic in the interpretation would be missing.

 

Best wishes,

Finn Wandahl

[Guest guest]

Dear Finn ji,

 

Yes, I also intend to explain the same five horoscopes. Of course I

have added one more on ancestral debts.

 

I will post the pious horoscope piece some time today in the

morning. Finally I will post the naabaalig [ Adolescent ] and the

adult horoscope piece together. Since the adolescent horoscope is a

very useful and important horoscope catagory I wanted it posted at

the end.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Finn Wandahl "

<finn.wandahl wrote:

>

> Dear members,

>

> Actually Lal Kitab (1952) provides a very interesting and useful

> classification of horoscopes into five differends types, which can

be

> found out if and when the book is read and researched with a sharp

> eye. I have found them to run like this:

>

> 1) Blind Horoscope: Mutual enemies in the 10th house makes the

chart

> blind. The combinations are: a) Merc with Moon, Mars or Jup, b) Ven

> with Sun, Moon, Jup or Rahu, c) Sat with Sun, Moon or Rahu and

finally

> Ketu with Sun, Moon or Mars. All planets, incl. Saturn, even if

> exalted, would behave like the blind people and Sat will be

malefic.

> obviously the powers of discrimination, good judgement and

> profession/career all gets badly affected.

>

> 2) Half-blind, Semi-blind or Night-blind Horoscopes: This happens

> f.ex. when Saturn is in the 7th and Sun is in the 4th. According to

> Lal Kitab, the results of Sat in 7th/Sun in 4th: Eunuch, impotent,

> useless man, night-blindness, planets are dormant at night,

children

> unlucky and of vice deeds. (Similar results if Sat with in

7th/Moon in

> 1st or Ven in 5th or Sun in 4th and Rahu-Ketu/Sat malefic). The

> rationale of Half-blind horoscopes seems to be that Sun in the 4th

> (Foundation of 10th) " gets the temper of the Moon, but its effect

goes

> to the house where Saturn is placed " , which in this case is the

7th,

> where Sun is debilitated.

>

> 3) Adult Horoscopes: If Sun is in 1st, 5th or 11th or Merc is in

6th

> house, such a chart is adult. The effect of Adult chart is

automatic

> and full. There is no need of any special effort. This is a person

of

> maturity and responsibility who is capable of independent acting

and

> thinking.

>

> 4) Adolescent or Non-adult Horoscopes. If the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10

> houses are blank or occupied by Mercury or by evil planets, Sat,

Rahu

> or Ketu, such a chart would be considered Non-adult. The condition

> (longevity) of the person will remain uncertain upto the age of 12.

> Such a person will have to seek assistance of others and will

remain

> adolescent, lacking in maturity, like a teenager, throughout life.

>

> 5) Religious Horoscopes. If Sat is in 11th or supported by Jup, and

> Rahu & Ketu are with Moon or in 4th/10th, such a chart is

religious.

> The person will have a religious bent of mind, will be careful of

> worldly gossip and able to steer clear from evil. A religious chart

> gives solace and compassion, and such a person will always be

helpful

> and a source of comfort for others.

>

> Many chart will be found belonging to one of these five types. In

such

> cases the explanations given are very helpful in showing some very

> important trends in the chart, which, if ignored, would mean that

> something very vital or basic in the interpretation would be

missing.

>

> Best wishes,

> Finn Wandahl

>