Re:Devising the form of an upaya / Pt. Umesh Sharma

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Dear Mr. Umesh Sharma,

 

Sorry for this delay in my response, but here it is:

 

Earlier I suggested to Mr. Varun Trivedi that the reason for using

remedy of Jupiter in case of Ketu being in the 3rd house, Debilitated,

could be the simple fact that Jupiter rules the 9th house, which is

the Exaltation place of Ketu. In other word, the philosophy behind

this, could be that Exaltation would undo Debilitation.

 

Then you - very intelligently - ask if the remedy of Jupiter should

also be applied in case of Ketu being in the 4th or 5th house.

 

I believe the remedy of Jupiter, like donating yellow items or gold

etc., should be used in case of Ketu in the 4th house. Because, as we

all know, Ketu in the 4th is a factor against childbirth, and Jupiter

being 1) the protector of progeny, 2) the lord of Ketu's exaltation

sign and 3) the planet which is exalted in the place occupied by Ketu

(4th house).

 

In case of Ketu in the 5th house, I think the situation is somewhat

different. Here Ketu's results depend much upon the situation and

placement of Jupiter and Sun in the chart. I would only suggest remedy

of Jupiter if Jupiter itself was badly placed, otherwise not.

Normally, if Jupiter, Sun or Mercury are benefic enough, I would

suggest the remedy of Ketu itself, like keeping a dog or other animal

expressing itself with its tail. This is because Ketu means tail. But

one needs to be very careful with this.

 

I remember doing a chart of a woman having Ketu in the 5th, who was

having one miscarriage after the other and no child. I have forgotten

the other details of the chart, but it was very bad for having

children. I first advised her to pray for a child, but at the same

time to accept the situation as the will of God, without going against

it.

 

However, this woman desperately wanted a child, no matter what. So I

finally gave in. I remember suggesting her to keep a black dog as a

pet. And after a year she gave birth to an abnormal child of some

genetic chromosome failure making it hyper aggressive and more or less

destroying the family life of this woman and her husband.

 

Obviously the remedy of Ketu worked, but so did her bad Karmas. The

remedy only gave her a situation much worse than what she already had.

But nobody could have made her understand that. She simply wanted a

child, no matter what.

 

Best regards,

Finn Wandahl

 

 

 

, " Umesh Sharma "

<mudit982001 wrote:

>

> Respected Wandahli ji,

>

>

> Kindly go through my doubts given below and your kind advice will be

> highlly oblized me.

>

> 1. May we take help of Jupiter when Ketu in 5th house?

> 2. Ketu in 4th, Guru ka upay madadgar hoga. Why?

>

>

> With respect & Regards

>

> Umesh Sharma

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " Finn Wandahl "

> <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Varun Trivedi,

> >

> > >>...[ 3 ] For ketu in 3rd, the book says: " Ketu mande ho madad

> guru

> > ki, tilak kesar ka bhala hota ho " . Here Jupiter is used to

> strengthen

> > ketu. There is nothing unusual in that. This is a very common

> > practice in the book where a friendly planet is used for

> strengthening

> > another friendly planet...<<

> >

> >

> > Sure, this is a sound explanation. But perhaps there is more to

> it. an

> > additional explanation could be that Ketu is debilitated in the 3rd

> > house, and therefore Jupiter could be suggested to strengten Ketu,

> > because Jupiter rules the 9th house (Sagittarius) where Ketu is

> > exalted. This way exaltation would undo debilitation, so to speak.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > Finn Wandahl

> >

> >

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Umesh ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My views on the issues you have raised.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [ 1 ] Lal Kitab varshphal sarini :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In traditional vedic Jyotish there are quite a few

> > >

> > > methods prevalent for working out the Varshphal

> > >

> > > kundali. The Lal Kitab has suggested yet another

> > >

> > > method. Therefore there is nothing unusual or

> > >

> > > surprising about the method.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The major question is what could have been the

> > >

> > > logic or the arithmetic applied to generate the table.

> > >

> > > We know that unless there was some formula the

> > >

> > > table could not have been generated. We do not

> > >

> > > know the formula as yet. But sure one day the

> > >

> > > formula would be known. Till such time the formula

> > >

> > > used is found out, let us not treat the sarini as some

> > >

> > > thing super natural. There is nothing mystical or

> > >

> > > super natural about it. It is an ordinary table; there are

> > >

> > > hundreds of such tables used in the traditional astrology

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [ 2 ] For sun + mars the book says :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > asar bura na hardam koi, chandra bhala na hota ho

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is simple to explain, have a look at what

> > >

> > > constitutes these two planets.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mars = sun + mercury

> > >

> > > Sun = mercury + venus

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > If you notice this combination is all mercury

> > >

> > > and venus , both enemies of the moon. Therefore

> > >

> > > it is natural that this combination will not be

> > >

> > > conducive for moon.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [ 3 ] For ketu in 3rd, the book says :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ketu mande ho madad guru ki, tilak kesar ka bhala hota ho

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Here Jupiter is used to strengthen ketu. There is

> > >

> > > nothing unusual in that. This is a very common

> > >

> > > practice in the book where a friendly planet is used for

> > >

> > > strengthening another friendly planet.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > With great respect and regards,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> >

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