Shadbal : a measurement of a planet's strength

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Respected Raheja ji,

 

Shadbal or six-fold strength is a traditional method to measure the

strength of a planet. In this method a planet is measured on 18

parameters across six counts. This is the most exhaustive and

accurate measurement of a Planet's strength denoted in rupbal.

Rupbal is the unit of measurement.

 

Unless the strength of a planet is known, it will be almost

impossible to evaluate the affect of this planet as the house it is

a lord of, or the house it is placed in, or the planet / house it

aspects, or the karaks it signifies, or the periods of mahadasha

and the antardasha

 

Therefore it is a very significant astrological tool traditionally

used by every serious astrologer.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " girish_raheja "

<girish_raheja wrote:

>

> Dear Varun ji,

>

> Thank you for your input. Next time when I meet Pt. Ashant ji I

will

> convey your feeling to him.

>

> Sir, could you please briefly explain what is shadbal.

>

> With respect,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

>

>

, " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Raheja ji,

> >

> > Pt. Krishna Ashant ji is a living legend as far as the Lal Kitab

> is

> > concerned. It is through his books, people like us got

interested

> in

> > the Lal Kitab. One great thing about him is that he is equally

> well

> > versed in Vedic astrology.

> >

> > Next time when you meet him, convey our most humble regards to

> him.

> > It is a matter of great honour that a person of Pt Krishna

Ashant

> > ji's stature takes interest in what is being discussed in this

> > group. It appears we have come of age.

> >

> > Now coming to our views about the moon in the 10th and the

> > restrictions; yes, one should follow them, may be as a

precaution,

> > not only for the moon in the 10th house but when the moon is in

> the

> > 8th house [ debility ] also. But it should be done if the moon

is

> > weak in the shadbal [ six fold strength ] and is not supported

by

> > other friendly planets.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " girish_raheja "

> > <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Varun ji,

> > >

> > > I had an opportunity to discuss these restrictions with Pt.

> > Krishna

> > > Ashant ji. He is of the opinion that these restrictions should

> as

> > > well be followed when the moon is in the 10th house, more as a

> > > precaution if nothing else. I would like to hear your views on

> > that.

> > >

> > > Pt. Krishna Ashant ji does not use a computer himself but his

> son

> > > does. Ashant ji keeps himself well informed about what is

being

> > > discussed in this group through his son.

> > >

> > > Just thought of sharing this information with you.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > Girish Raheja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected members,

> > > >

> > > > Moon in the 11th house :

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lal Kitab prohibits the following five activities on days and

> > > >

> > > > time given below for those who have Moon in the 11th house.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Quoting the book,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lal Kitab 1952 urdu ed; page 414

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > panch baten zahar ka asar dengi:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [ a ] budhwar bahan ya larki ka janma din,ya budh ki ashiya,

> > > >

> > > > ya karobar mutallaqa budh.

> > > >

> > > > [ b ] shukrawar ki shadi khwa apani khwa apne khoon ke

> > > >

> > > > kisi bhi rishtedar ki

> > > >

> > > > [ c ] shaniwar ke din makan banana,ya girana ya shani ki

> > > >

> > > > ashiya, ya kaobar mutallqa shani.

> > > >

> > > > [ d ] dan lena ya dena bawaqt subah sabere ya ketu ki ashiya

> > > >

> > > > ya karobar mutallaqa ketu

> > > >

> > > > [ e ] guru updesh bawaqt pakki sham sunana ya sunaana ,

> > > >

> > > > ya brahspati ki ashiya, ya karobar mutallaqa brahaspati

> > > >

> > > > bawaqt rahu [ pakki sham]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If you notice the planets mentioned above are all those

> > > >

> > > > which consider the Moon as their enemy, namely mercury,

> > > >

> > > > venus, Saturn, Ketu and rahu.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > These restrictions will apply subject to two conditions :

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ( i ) when the 3rd house is manda

> > > >

> > > > ( ii ) when the 4th house is occupied

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The first condition has been mentioned on the page 414 above.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The second condition, though not mentioned here on page 414,

> > > >

> > > > is an inference from what is mentioned:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > on page 67 of 1952 urdu ed:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chandra ka mutthi [ khana no. 1,4,7,10 ] se bahar aur khana

> > > >

> > > > no 4 khali ho to Chandra ka sab grahon may khud Chandra

> > > >

> > > > par nek asar hoga, khwah Chandra khud raddi, nikamma,

> > > >

> > > > ya manda ho raha ho.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So long as the 4th house is not occupied the moon

irrespective

> > > >

> > > > of where it is placed will always be of benefic effect [ nek

> > asar ]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now, why these effects have been predicted, with the moon

> > > >

> > > > in the 11th house.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Reason 1 : 11th house belongs to the Saturn, an enemy

> territory.

> > > >

> > > > Reason 2 : aspect of the planet from the 3rd will adversely

> > affect

> > > >

> > > > the Moon. And could jeopardize it still further

> > > >

> > > > Reason 3 : and a planet placed in the 4th will be in a

> position

> > > >

> > > > of takrav [ conflict ] with the moon in the 11thweakening it

> > still

> > > > further.

> > > >

> > > > Reason 4 : a moon placed in the 11th house has been

considered

> > as:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > no 11 mein Chandra sifar, nirpaksha, ya manda [ page 67;

> 1952

> > > urdu ed

> > > > ]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > hote huye na ke barabar nirpaksha, sifar, manda [ page 411,

> > 1952

> > > urdu

> > > > ed ]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > A moon in the 11th house is helpless and disarmed; it is of

no

> > > >

> > > > consequence; amounting to be a zero. Therefore a moon placed

> > > >

> > > > in the 11th house will be susceptible to any onslaught by

its

> > > enemies.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore any action or business associated with those five

> > planets

> > > >

> > > > done on the days or the time assigned to them will bring the

> moon

> > > >

> > > > into a direct confrontation with them.

> > > >

> > > > Since a moon placed in the 11th house is already equal to

> nothing

> > > >

> > > > [ a zero] and of no consequence [ nirpaksha ], and is further

> > > >

> > > > handicapped through an adverse aspect of a planet from the

> third,

> > > >

> > > > in confrontation with a planet placed in the 4th becomes an

> easy

> > > >

> > > > prey to his enemies and succumbs.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Therefore a native with the moon in the 11th should avoid any

> > > >

> > > > confrontation between the moon and its enemies like mercury,

> > > >

> > > > venus, Saturn, ketu and rahu ; hence the instructions; avoid

> > > >

> > > > doing the above things on those days and times.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now a question arises as to why the same restrictions are not

> > > >

> > > > imposed if the moon is placed in the 10th house. After all

the

> > > >

> > > > 10th house is also a house owned by Saturn.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The answer is simple, the moon placed in the 10th house is

not

> > > >

> > > > as helpless, disarmed, or insignificant as it is in the 11th

> > house.

> > > >

> > > > Being in the Kendra [ mutthi ke khane ] it is strong. A moon

> > > >

> > > > in the 10th house is in a better position to withstand any

> > > >

> > > > onslaught by its enemies as compared to being in the 11th.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > We should remember that the 11th house is a house of

> > > >

> > > > aay [ income ] and therefore of great significance. Any

> > > >

> > > > thing that could damage the 11th house or a planet placed

> > > >

> > > > there should always be avoided.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > These are strictly our views,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Varun ji,

 

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.

 

With respect,

 

Girish Raheja

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Raheja ji,

>

> Shadbal or six-fold strength is a traditional method to measure

the

> strength of a planet. In this method a planet is measured on 18

> parameters across six counts. This is the most exhaustive and

> accurate measurement of a Planet's strength denoted in rupbal.

> Rupbal is the unit of measurement.

>

> Unless the strength of a planet is known, it will be almost

> impossible to evaluate the affect of this planet as the house it

is

> a lord of, or the house it is placed in, or the planet / house it

> aspects, or the karaks it signifies, or the periods of mahadasha

> and the antardasha

>

> Therefore it is a very significant astrological tool traditionally

> used by every serious astrologer.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " girish_raheja "

> <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Varun ji,

> >

> > Thank you for your input. Next time when I meet Pt. Ashant ji I

> will

> > convey your feeling to him.

> >

> > Sir, could you please briefly explain what is shadbal.

> >

> > With respect,

> >

> > Girish Raheja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Raheja ji,

> > >

> > > Pt. Krishna Ashant ji is a living legend as far as the Lal

Kitab

> > is

> > > concerned. It is through his books, people like us got

> interested

> > in

> > > the Lal Kitab. One great thing about him is that he is equally

> > well

> > > versed in Vedic astrology.

> > >

> > > Next time when you meet him, convey our most humble regards to

> > him.

> > > It is a matter of great honour that a person of Pt Krishna

> Ashant

> > > ji's stature takes interest in what is being discussed in this

> > > group. It appears we have come of age.

> > >

> > > Now coming to our views about the moon in the 10th and the

> > > restrictions; yes, one should follow them, may be as a

> precaution,

> > > not only for the moon in the 10th house but when the moon is

in

> > the

> > > 8th house [ debility ] also. But it should be done if the moon

> is

> > > weak in the shadbal [ six fold strength ] and is not supported

> by

> > > other friendly planets.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " girish_raheja "

> > > <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Varun ji,

> > > >

> > > > I had an opportunity to discuss these restrictions with Pt.

> > > Krishna

> > > > Ashant ji. He is of the opinion that these restrictions

should

> > as

> > > > well be followed when the moon is in the 10th house, more as

a

> > > > precaution if nothing else. I would like to hear your views

on

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > Pt. Krishna Ashant ji does not use a computer himself but

his

> > son

> > > > does. Ashant ji keeps himself well informed about what is

> being

> > > > discussed in this group through his son.

> > > >

> > > > Just thought of sharing this information with you.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Girish Raheja

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon in the 11th house :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lal Kitab prohibits the following five activities on days

and

> > > > >

> > > > > time given below for those who have Moon in the 11th house.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Quoting the book,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lal Kitab 1952 urdu ed; page 414

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > panch baten zahar ka asar dengi:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ a ] budhwar bahan ya larki ka janma din,ya budh ki

ashiya,

> > > > >

> > > > > ya karobar mutallaqa budh.

> > > > >

> > > > > [ b ] shukrawar ki shadi khwa apani khwa apne khoon ke

> > > > >

> > > > > kisi bhi rishtedar ki

> > > > >

> > > > > [ c ] shaniwar ke din makan banana,ya girana ya shani ki

> > > > >

> > > > > ashiya, ya kaobar mutallqa shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > [ d ] dan lena ya dena bawaqt subah sabere ya ketu ki

ashiya

> > > > >

> > > > > ya karobar mutallaqa ketu

> > > > >

> > > > > [ e ] guru updesh bawaqt pakki sham sunana ya sunaana ,

> > > > >

> > > > > ya brahspati ki ashiya, ya karobar mutallaqa brahaspati

> > > > >

> > > > > bawaqt rahu [ pakki sham]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > If you notice the planets mentioned above are all those

> > > > >

> > > > > which consider the Moon as their enemy, namely mercury,

> > > > >

> > > > > venus, Saturn, Ketu and rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > These restrictions will apply subject to two conditions :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ( i ) when the 3rd house is manda

> > > > >

> > > > > ( ii ) when the 4th house is occupied

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The first condition has been mentioned on the page 414

above.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The second condition, though not mentioned here on page

414,

> > > > >

> > > > > is an inference from what is mentioned:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > on page 67 of 1952 urdu ed:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandra ka mutthi [ khana no. 1,4,7,10 ] se bahar aur khana

> > > > >

> > > > > no 4 khali ho to Chandra ka sab grahon may khud Chandra

> > > > >

> > > > > par nek asar hoga, khwah Chandra khud raddi, nikamma,

> > > > >

> > > > > ya manda ho raha ho.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So long as the 4th house is not occupied the moon

> irrespective

> > > > >

> > > > > of where it is placed will always be of benefic effect [

nek

> > > asar ]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, why these effects have been predicted, with the moon

> > > > >

> > > > > in the 11th house.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Reason 1 : 11th house belongs to the Saturn, an enemy

> > territory.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reason 2 : aspect of the planet from the 3rd will

adversely

> > > affect

> > > > >

> > > > > the Moon. And could jeopardize it still further

> > > > >

> > > > > Reason 3 : and a planet placed in the 4th will be in a

> > position

> > > > >

> > > > > of takrav [ conflict ] with the moon in the 11thweakening

it

> > > still

> > > > > further.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reason 4 : a moon placed in the 11th house has been

> considered

> > > as:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > no 11 mein Chandra sifar, nirpaksha, ya manda [ page

67;

> > 1952

> > > > urdu ed

> > > > > ]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > hote huye na ke barabar nirpaksha, sifar, manda [ page

411,

> > > 1952

> > > > urdu

> > > > > ed ]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > A moon in the 11th house is helpless and disarmed; it is

of

> no

> > > > >

> > > > > consequence; amounting to be a zero. Therefore a moon

placed

> > > > >

> > > > > in the 11th house will be susceptible to any onslaught by

> its

> > > > enemies.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore any action or business associated with those

five

> > > planets

> > > > >

> > > > > done on the days or the time assigned to them will bring

the

> > moon

> > > > >

> > > > > into a direct confrontation with them.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since a moon placed in the 11th house is already equal to

> > nothing

> > > > >

> > > > > [ a zero] and of no consequence [ nirpaksha ], and is

further

> > > > >

> > > > > handicapped through an adverse aspect of a planet from the

> > third,

> > > > >

> > > > > in confrontation with a planet placed in the 4th becomes

an

> > easy

> > > > >

> > > > > prey to his enemies and succumbs.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore a native with the moon in the 11th should avoid

any

> > > > >

> > > > > confrontation between the moon and its enemies like

mercury,

> > > > >

> > > > > venus, Saturn, ketu and rahu ; hence the instructions;

avoid

> > > > >

> > > > > doing the above things on those days and times.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now a question arises as to why the same restrictions are

not

> > > > >

> > > > > imposed if the moon is placed in the 10th house. After all

> the

> > > > >

> > > > > 10th house is also a house owned by Saturn.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The answer is simple, the moon placed in the 10th house is

> not

> > > > >

> > > > > as helpless, disarmed, or insignificant as it is in the

11th

> > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Being in the Kendra [ mutthi ke khane ] it is strong. A

moon

> > > > >

> > > > > in the 10th house is in a better position to withstand any

> > > > >

> > > > > onslaught by its enemies as compared to being in the 11th.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We should remember that the 11th house is a house of

> > > > >

> > > > > aay [ income ] and therefore of great significance. Any

> > > > >

> > > > > thing that could damage the 11th house or a planet placed

> > > > >

> > > > > there should always be avoided.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > These are strictly our views,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>