Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Respected Gill Saheb, Lal Kitab follows the same system of aspects as is followed in traditional Vedic astrology. It is the effect of these aspects which has been treated differently, although within the parameters of the Vedic astrology. In Traditional Vedic astrology a horoscope is divided into two parts : [a] Drashta Ardha [visible half] From later half of the lagna till the later half of the 7th house, through 12th,11th,10th,9th, and 8th, is known as `drashta ardha' or `prakashit ardha' e.g. the visible half or the lighted half. It is because the Sun moves through these houses. If the birth takes place at the time of sun rise the sun will be in the lagna, if the birth takes place at mid noon the sun will be in the 10th house and similarly if the birth takes place at the sun set the sun will be in the 7th house. Therefore the journey of the sun is denoted in a horoscope clockwise from the Lagna to the 7th house. Therefore this part of the horoscope is known as the `drashta half' the half which is lighted and is visible. In the Lal Kitab these houses are known as `baad ke ghar' Adrashta Ardha [ invisible half ] From the initial half of the 7th house till the initial half of the Lagna through the 6th,5th, 4th,3rd,2nd is known as the adrashta ardha or aprakashit ardha or invisible half or the dark half. It is through these houses the Sun travels after it sets. If the birth takes place at midnight the sun will be in the 4th house. In the Lal Kitab these houses are known as pahale ke ghar. In the Lal Kitab Pt. Roop Chand ji interpreted this horoscope division very logically in the context of aspects. He divided the nature of aspects into two parts commensurate with this horoscope division. Nature of aspects in the Lal Kitab : [ A ] Aspect of assimilation [ budh ki milawat] Lal kitab says that the planets placed in the pahale ke ghar [ invisible half ] can have an aspect on the planets or the houses of the baad ke ghar [ visible half ]. This is very logical. A person sitting in a dark room can see some one outside in the light. This aspect Pt. Roop Chand ji called as budh ki milawat or an assimilation like that of sugar in the milk. The two things get assimilated such that it becomes impossible to identify them as separate. For example a Jupiter placed in the 4th house aspecting a Venus placed in the 10th house, apart from the effect of Jupiter's aspect, will also result in a combined effect of Jupiter + Venus [ a Saturn of ketu nature ] [ B ] Aspect of appendage [ mangal ki milawat] Lal Kitab says that the planets placed in the baad ke ghar [ visible half ] do not have an aspect on the planets placed in the pahale ke ghar [ invisible half]. This statement should not be taken to mean that there is no aspect of a planet placed in the later half. By this statement the Lal Kitab meant that the aspect will not be that of assimilation like that of sugar and milk. Instead the aspect will lead to a combination as if an artificial leg has been appended to an amputated leg. Although the function is the same still the two parts of the leg are independently visible. They do not assimilate like the sugar and the milk. The artificial leg, although one with the original leg, but still it is a perceptible appendage or an add-on. In this case the aspecting planet will have its own independent identity also. This the Pandit ji calls Mangal ki milawat These divisions of the nature of aspect is in keeping with the principles of the Vedic astrology. Just to prove that Pt. Roop Chand ji has not only accepted the vedic astrology system of aspects, he has also used it . There are many examples in the book, I am quoting just one: Pandit Roop Chand ji says , Khana no. 4 : Chander ka ghar hai, is ghar ko khana no. dus ke grah 100% nazar se dekhte hain. Khana no.10 ka brahaspti nek nazar rakhega. This line quoted above goes to prove that the planet placed in the visible half not only have an aspect on the planets/houses in the invisible half, even the percentage of aspect remains the same. Yes the nature could be different. Like in the example quoted a Jupiter placed in its house of debility [ 10th ] when aspecting its house of exaltation [ 4th ] will have benefic effects khana 10 ka brahaspati nek nazar rakhega . This aspect principle once again is in keeping with the Vedic astrology tradition. According to the traditional Vedic astrology, when a planet placed in debility aspects its house of exaltation the results are beneficial; it is a benefic aspect. If Venus placed in the 6th house [ a house of debility ] aspects the 12th house [ a house of its exaltation] the results are beneficial. Suppose the venus from the 6th aspects a Mars in the 12th then the family life of the brother will be benefited. The results will be reversed if a Venus placed in the 12th aspects the 6th house. Suppose the Venus from the 12th aspects a Mars in the 6th then the wife of the brother or her family will suffer. Lal Kitab also follows the same traditional Vedic astrology principle. This is strictly our own logical interpretation of the Lal Kitab rules of aspect. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "gill_hs2005" <gill_hs2005 wrote:>> Dear Varun ji,> > Could you please briefly explain the aspect rule of the Lal Kitab for > the benefit of us all.> > With respect,> > HS Gill> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dear Varun ji, Thank you so much for the clarification. respectfully, HS Gill , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Gill Saheb, > > > > Lal Kitab follows the same system of aspects as > > is followed in traditional Vedic astrology. It is the > > effect of these aspects which has been treated > > differently, although within the parameters of > > the Vedic astrology. > > > > In Traditional Vedic astrology a horoscope > > is divided into two parts : > > > > [a] Drashta Ardha [visible half] > > > > From later half of the lagna till the later half of > > the 7th house, through 12th,11th,10th,9th, and 8th, > > is known as `drashta ardha' or `prakashit ardha' > > e.g. the visible half or the lighted half. It is > > because the Sun moves through these houses. > > If the birth takes place at the time of sun rise the > > sun will be in the lagna, if the birth takes place > > at mid noon the sun will be in the 10th house and > > similarly if the birth takes place at the sun set > > the sun will be in the 7th house. Therefore the > > journey of the sun is denoted in a horoscope > > clockwise from the Lagna to the 7th house. > > Therefore this part of the horoscope is known > > as the `drashta half' the half which is lighted > > and is visible. In the Lal Kitab these houses are > > known as `baad ke ghar' > > > > Adrashta Ardha [ invisible half ] > > > > From the initial half of the 7th house till the > > initial half of the Lagna through the 6th,5th, > > 4th,3rd,2nd is known as the adrashta ardha or > > aprakashit ardha or invisible half or the > > dark half. It is through these houses the Sun > > travels after it sets. If the birth takes place at > > midnight the sun will be in the 4th house. In the > > Lal Kitab these houses are known as pahale ke ghar. > > > > In the Lal Kitab Pt. Roop Chand ji interpreted > > this horoscope division very logically in the > > context of aspects. He divided the nature of > > aspects into two parts commensurate with this > > horoscope division. > > > > Nature of aspects in the Lal Kitab : > > > > [ A ] Aspect of assimilation [ budh ki milawat] > > > > Lal kitab says that the planets placed in the pahale > > ke ghar [ invisible half ] can have an aspect on the > > planets or the houses of the baad ke ghar [ visible half ]. > > This is very logical. A person sitting in a dark room > > can see some one outside in the light. This aspect > > Pt. Roop Chand ji called as budh ki milawat or > > an assimilation like that of sugar in the milk. The > > two things get assimilated such that it becomes > > impossible to identify them as separate. For > > example a Jupiter placed in the 4th house > > aspecting a Venus placed in the 10th house, apart > > from the effect of Jupiter's aspect, will also result > > in a combined effect of Jupiter + Venus > > [ a Saturn of ketu nature ] > > > > [ B ] Aspect of appendage [ mangal ki milawat] > > > > Lal Kitab says that the planets placed in the baad > > ke ghar [ visible half ] do not have an aspect on > > the planets placed in the pahale ke ghar [ invisible half]. > > This statement should not be taken to mean that > > there is no aspect of a planet placed in the later half. > > By this statement the Lal Kitab meant that the aspect > > will not be that of assimilation like that of sugar and > > milk. Instead the aspect will lead to a combination as > > if an artificial leg has been appended to an amputated > > leg. Although the function is the same still the two > > parts of the leg are independently visible. They do > > not assimilate like the sugar and the milk. The artificial > > leg, although one with the original leg, but still it is a > > perceptible appendage or an add-on. In this case the > > aspecting planet will have its own independent > > identity also. This the Pandit ji calls Mangal ki milawat > > > > These divisions of the nature of aspect is in keeping with > > the principles of the Vedic astrology. > > > > Just to prove that Pt. Roop Chand ji has not only accepted > > the vedic astrology system of aspects, he has also used it . > > > > There are many examples in the book, I am quoting just one: > > > > Pandit Roop Chand ji says , > > > > Khana no. 4 : Chander ka ghar hai, is ghar ko > > khana no. dus ke grah 100% nazar se dekhte hain. > > Khana no.10 ka brahaspti nek nazar rakhega. > > > > This line quoted above goes to prove that the planet > > placed in the visible half not only have an aspect on > > the planets/houses in the invisible half, even the percentage > > of aspect remains the same. Yes the nature could be > > different. Like in the example quoted a Jupiter placed in > > its house of debility [ 10th ] when aspecting its house of > > exaltation [ 4th ] will have benefic effects khana 10 ka > > brahaspati nek nazar rakhega . > > > > This aspect principle once again is in keeping with the > > Vedic astrology tradition. According to the traditional > > Vedic astrology, when a planet placed in debility aspects > > its house of exaltation the results are beneficial; it is a > > benefic aspect. If Venus placed in the 6th house [ a house > > of debility ] aspects the 12th house [ a house of its exaltation] > > the results are beneficial. Suppose the venus from the 6th > > aspects a Mars in the 12th then the family life of the brother will > > be benefited. The results will be reversed if a Venus placed > > in the 12th aspects the 6th house. Suppose the Venus from > > the 12th aspects a Mars in the 6th then the wife of the brother > > or her family will suffer. Lal Kitab also follows the same > > traditional Vedic astrology principle. > > > > This is strictly our own logical interpretation of the > > Lal Kitab rules of aspect. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > Could you please briefly explain the aspect rule of the Lal Kitab for > > the benefit of us all. > > > > With respect, > > > > HS Gill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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