LK discussion group Duration of upaya / sood 4u

June 6, 2008

Respected Varunji,

Explanation was logical as always.

Just one query, I believe 8th house has "reverse drishti path" to the 2nd house and assuming one has to establish a planet from 8th house to 2nd house:

1) One should only use reverse drishti path?

2) If yes, are there any exceptions?

3) Not sure if there is direct drishti path from 8th house to 2nd house?

4) If 3) stands false then no issue but if 3) stands true then what are the deciding factors to choose between 1) & 3)

I've assumed so many things because I am not good at LK system.

Please advise.

Cheers

Bhupinder --- On Fri, 6/6/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

varun_trvd <varun_trvdLK discussion group Re: Duration of upaya / sood 4u Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 5:25 PM

Respected Sood ji,Thank you so much for seeking clarification. That shows your interest in the lal Kitab system of Vedic astrology.My explanation earlier of the duration of Upaya , as we see it, has been divided into two parts.[ a ] When the effect of a planet is to be distanced, or its nature changed, or destroyed for that year. In this case the duration depends on the house the planet is placed in. Therefore if a planet placed in the 6th house is to be distanced the upaya of immersing will have to be done for 6 days, if a planet is placed in the 5th house and its nature is to be changed through offering the karak vastu in a temple, then the upaya will have to be done for 5 days; similarly if the effect of a planet placed in the 4th is to be destroyed for that year then the upaya of burying the karak vastu will have to be done for 4 days regularly.[ b ] The example of placing

haldi ganth in the North east corner in a brass bowl was given to explain as to how a planet can be established in a different house through moving it along the 'drishti path' [ grah ko sthapit karna ]. If the Jupiter is placed in the 8th house then the best upaya will be to move the planet to a house where it will be best placed. Jupiter, through his 9th aspect looks at the 4th house from the 8th. Therefore the `drishti path' for the Jupiter from the 8th house to the 4th house is already laid out. The Jupiter can be moved from the 8th house to the 4th house without any problem. Jupiter will be most auspiciously placed there.Once this has been decided that moving the Jupiter will be beneficial then the question arises of the duration of the upaya.In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be decided on the

fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of the house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days regularly. Suppose the nature of this Jupiter placed in the 8th house were to be changed, then the upaya will have been to offer a haldi ganth at any temple for 8 days only. Then the house it is placed in would have been relevant. I hope I have clarified our view on the duration of upaya.Regards,Varun Trivedi , "sood4u_online" <sood4u_online@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Varun Ji, Wishes and Greeting to you and all > > Varun Ji Apne kha ki agar koi grah 8th house main hai to us ki

karak > vastu ko 8 din lgatar jal parwah,offer to temple, or burried kare us > grah ko dur karne k liye. > > Per sath me he aapne keh dia ki agar Jupiter 8th house main hai to > haldi ki ganth ko 9days north east corner main rakhen. > > Varun ji is me kya logic hai plz btayen ki aapne Jupiter 8th ke upay > ko 9 dyas karne ko kha instead of 8days kyuki apne he kha ki (then > the house the planet is placed in is taken into account).> > Sir please is per drishti dal de main itna to jan kaar nahi hu per > aap sab ke aur bhagwan k ashirwad se is vidya ko seekhne ki koshish > kar rha hu > > And thanks in advance, waiting for reply > > Amit Sood > > > -- In , "girish_raheja" >

<girish_raheja@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Varun ji,> > > > Thanks for sharing this valuable information. > > > > With respect,> > > > Girish Raheja> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > >> > > Respected members,> > > > > > It is an important question which is faced by every Lalkitabist > > when > > > prescribing a Lal Kitab upaya namely the duration of upaya.> > > > > > Some upaya have been advised in the book to be done for 43 days > or > > > even

43 weeks regularly. In very few cases the book mentions the > > > duration of the upaya. Invariably it would just say e.g. chandra > > ka > > > upaya madadgar hoga and so on.> > > > > > Under these circumstances it is the Lalkitabist himself who has > to > > > use his common sense and prescribe the duration of the upaya. The > > > duration becomes crucial in the following cases:> > > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be immersed in flowing water.> > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be offered in a temple.> > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be buried.> > > If a karak vastu is to be established in a different house.> > > > > > Our view is :> > > > > > When a karak object is to be distanced by throwing it in

flowing > > > water, or is to be offered at a temple to get its nature changed, > > or > > > is to be buried to destroy the effect of the planet for that > year, > > > then the house the planet is placed in is taken into account. > > > > > > For example if the effects of a planet placed in the 8th house > are > > > to be distanced then the karak object of that planet will have to > > be > > > immersed in flowing water for 8 days regularly, the upaya will > > have > > > to be done for the same duration if the planet is to be sent to a > > > temple to get its nature changed; the karak object will have to > be > > > buried for 8 days if the effects are to be destroyed for that > > year. > > > The general convention adopted by most

Lalkitabists is that > > instead > > > of carrying the upaya for 8 days regularly they suggest 8 pieces > > of > > > that karak item to be immersed, or offered at the temple, or > > buried > > > in one day itself. This could be because of the paucity of time > > and > > > convenience.> > > > > > But for establishing a planet in a particular house the procedure > > is > > > different. The duration of the upaya will depend on the steps it > > > will take to reach that house. The steps are counted in zodiac > > > terms. If a Jupiter placed in the 8th house is to be moved to the > > > 4th house then a haldi ganth will have to be placed in the North > > > East corner each day for 9 days regularly [ or placing 9 haldi > > ganth >

> > in one single day ]> > > > > > This is our perception of this concept.> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > >> >>