Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Respected Sood ji, Thank you so much for seeking clarification. That shows your interest in the lal Kitab system of Vedic astrology. My explanation earlier of the duration of Upaya , as we see it, has been divided into two parts. [ a ] When the effect of a planet is to be distanced, or its nature changed, or destroyed for that year. In this case the duration depends on the house the planet is placed in. Therefore if a planet placed in the 6th house is to be distanced the upaya of immersing will have to be done for 6 days, if a planet is placed in the 5th house and its nature is to be changed through offering the karak vastu in a temple, then the upaya will have to be done for 5 days; similarly if the effect of a planet placed in the 4th is to be destroyed for that year then the upaya of burying the karak vastu will have to be done for 4 days regularly. [ b ] The example of placing haldi ganth in the North east corner in a brass bowl was given to explain as to how a planet can be established in a different house through moving it along the 'drishti path' [ grah ko sthapit karna ]. If the Jupiter is placed in the 8th house then the best upaya will be to move the planet to a house where it will be best placed. Jupiter, through his 9th aspect looks at the 4th house from the 8th. Therefore the `drishti path' for the Jupiter from the 8th house to the 4th house is already laid out. The Jupiter can be moved from the 8th house to the 4th house without any problem. Jupiter will be most auspiciously placed there. Once this has been decided that moving the Jupiter will be beneficial then the question arises of the duration of the upaya. In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be decided on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of the house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days regularly. Suppose the nature of this Jupiter placed in the 8th house were to be changed, then the upaya will have been to offer a haldi ganth at any temple for 8 days only. Then the house it is placed in would have been relevant. I hope I have clarified our view on the duration of upaya. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " sood4u_online " <sood4u_online wrote: > > Dear Varun Ji, Wishes and Greeting to you and all > > Varun Ji Apne kha ki agar koi grah 8th house main hai to us ki karak > vastu ko 8 din lgatar jal parwah,offer to temple, or burried kare us > grah ko dur karne k liye. > > Per sath me he aapne keh dia ki agar Jupiter 8th house main hai to > haldi ki ganth ko 9days north east corner main rakhen. > > Varun ji is me kya logic hai plz btayen ki aapne Jupiter 8th ke upay > ko 9 dyas karne ko kha instead of 8days kyuki apne he kha ki (then > the house the planet is placed in is taken into account). > > Sir please is per drishti dal de main itna to jan kaar nahi hu per > aap sab ke aur bhagwan k ashirwad se is vidya ko seekhne ki koshish > kar rha hu > > And thanks in advance, waiting for reply > > Amit Sood > > > -- In , " girish_raheja " > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > Thanks for sharing this valuable information. > > > > With respect, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > It is an important question which is faced by every Lalkitabist > > when > > > prescribing a Lal Kitab upaya namely the duration of upaya. > > > > > > Some upaya have been advised in the book to be done for 43 days > or > > > even 43 weeks regularly. In very few cases the book mentions the > > > duration of the upaya. Invariably it would just say e.g. chandra > > ka > > > upaya madadgar hoga and so on. > > > > > > Under these circumstances it is the Lalkitabist himself who has > to > > > use his common sense and prescribe the duration of the upaya. The > > > duration becomes crucial in the following cases: > > > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be immersed in flowing water. > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be offered in a temple. > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be buried. > > > If a karak vastu is to be established in a different house. > > > > > > Our view is : > > > > > > When a karak object is to be distanced by throwing it in flowing > > > water, or is to be offered at a temple to get its nature changed, > > or > > > is to be buried to destroy the effect of the planet for that > year, > > > then the house the planet is placed in is taken into account. > > > > > > For example if the effects of a planet placed in the 8th house > are > > > to be distanced then the karak object of that planet will have to > > be > > > immersed in flowing water for 8 days regularly, the upaya will > > have > > > to be done for the same duration if the planet is to be sent to a > > > temple to get its nature changed; the karak object will have to > be > > > buried for 8 days if the effects are to be destroyed for that > > year. > > > The general convention adopted by most Lalkitabists is that > > instead > > > of carrying the upaya for 8 days regularly they suggest 8 pieces > > of > > > that karak item to be immersed, or offered at the temple, or > > buried > > > in one day itself. This could be because of the paucity of time > > and > > > convenience. > > > > > > But for establishing a planet in a particular house the procedure > > is > > > different. The duration of the upaya will depend on the steps it > > > will take to reach that house. The steps are counted in zodiac > > > terms. If a Jupiter placed in the 8th house is to be moved to the > > > 4th house then a haldi ganth will have to be placed in the North > > > East corner each day for 9 days regularly [ or placing 9 haldi > > ganth > > > in one single day ] > > > > > > This is our perception of this concept. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Respected Varun Ji Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for your advice and clarification on upayas: per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be decided > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of the > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > regularly. in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is palced in 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah kyu karte hai 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 khane chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab usko 4th me bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din jal parwah karte hai to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai to plz sorry in advance. Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I hope you will again reply me in future. With Regards Amit Sood varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo sab samjhene ki Koshish ki , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Sood ji, > > Thank you so much for seeking clarification. That shows your > interest in the lal Kitab system of Vedic astrology. > > My explanation earlier of the duration of Upaya , as we see it, has > been divided into two parts. > > [ a ] When the effect of a planet is to be distanced, or its nature > changed, or destroyed for that year. In this case the duration > depends on the house the planet is placed in. Therefore if a planet > placed in the 6th house is to be distanced the upaya of immersing > will have to be done for 6 days, if a planet is placed in the 5th > house and its nature is to be changed through offering the karak > vastu in a temple, then the upaya will have to be done for 5 days; > similarly if the effect of a planet placed in the 4th is to be > destroyed for that year then the upaya of burying the karak vastu > will have to be done for 4 days regularly. > > [ b ] The example of placing haldi ganth in the North east corner > in a brass bowl was given to explain as to how a planet can be > established in a different house through moving it along > the 'drishti path' [ grah ko sthapit karna ]. If the Jupiter is > placed in the 8th house then the best upaya will be to move the > planet to a house where it will be best placed. Jupiter, through his > 9th aspect looks at the 4th house from the 8th. Therefore > the `drishti path' for the Jupiter from the 8th house to the 4th > house is already laid out. The Jupiter can be moved from the 8th > house to the 4th house without any problem. Jupiter will be most > auspiciously placed there. > > Once this has been decided that moving the Jupiter will be > beneficial then the question arises of the duration of the upaya. > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be decided > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of the > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > regularly. > > Suppose the nature of this Jupiter placed in the 8th house were to > be changed, then the upaya will have been to offer a haldi ganth at > any temple for 8 days only. Then the house it is placed in would > have been relevant. > > I hope I have clarified our view on the duration of upaya. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , " sood4u_online " > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun Ji, Wishes and Greeting to you and all > > > > Varun Ji Apne kha ki agar koi grah 8th house main hai to us ki > karak > > vastu ko 8 din lgatar jal parwah,offer to temple, or burried kare > us > > grah ko dur karne k liye. > > > > Per sath me he aapne keh dia ki agar Jupiter 8th house main hai to > > haldi ki ganth ko 9days north east corner main rakhen. > > > > Varun ji is me kya logic hai plz btayen ki aapne Jupiter 8th ke > upay > > ko 9 dyas karne ko kha instead of 8days kyuki apne he kha ki (then > > the house the planet is placed in is taken into account). > > > > Sir please is per drishti dal de main itna to jan kaar nahi hu per > > aap sab ke aur bhagwan k ashirwad se is vidya ko seekhne ki > koshish > > kar rha hu > > > > And thanks in advance, waiting for reply > > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > -- In , " girish_raheja " > > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this valuable information. > > > > > > With respect, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > It is an important question which is faced by every > Lalkitabist > > > when > > > > prescribing a Lal Kitab upaya namely the duration of upaya. > > > > > > > > Some upaya have been advised in the book to be done for 43 > days > > or > > > > even 43 weeks regularly. In very few cases the book mentions > the > > > > duration of the upaya. Invariably it would just say e.g. > chandra > > > ka > > > > upaya madadgar hoga and so on. > > > > > > > > Under these circumstances it is the Lalkitabist himself who > has > > to > > > > use his common sense and prescribe the duration of the upaya. > The > > > > duration becomes crucial in the following cases: > > > > > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be immersed in flowing > water. > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be offered in a temple. > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be buried. > > > > If a karak vastu is to be established in a different house. > > > > > > > > Our view is : > > > > > > > > When a karak object is to be distanced by throwing it in > flowing > > > > water, or is to be offered at a temple to get its nature > changed, > > > or > > > > is to be buried to destroy the effect of the planet for that > > year, > > > > then the house the planet is placed in is taken into account. > > > > > > > > For example if the effects of a planet placed in the 8th house > > are > > > > to be distanced then the karak object of that planet will have > to > > > be > > > > immersed in flowing water for 8 days regularly, the upaya will > > > have > > > > to be done for the same duration if the planet is to be sent > to a > > > > temple to get its nature changed; the karak object will have > to > > be > > > > buried for 8 days if the effects are to be destroyed for that > > > year. > > > > The general convention adopted by most Lalkitabists is that > > > instead > > > > of carrying the upaya for 8 days regularly they suggest 8 > pieces > > > of > > > > that karak item to be immersed, or offered at the temple, or > > > buried > > > > in one day itself. This could be because of the paucity of > time > > > and > > > > convenience. > > > > > > > > But for establishing a planet in a particular house the > procedure > > > is > > > > different. The duration of the upaya will depend on the steps > it > > > > will take to reach that house. The steps are counted in zodiac > > > > terms. If a Jupiter placed in the 8th house is to be moved to > the > > > > 4th house then a haldi ganth will have to be placed in the > North > > > > East corner each day for 9 days regularly [ or placing 9 haldi > > > ganth > > > > in one single day ] > > > > > > > > This is our perception of this concept. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Respected Sood saheb, Why 8 pieces of lead are advised to be immersed in flowing water for Rahu in the 8th, and also why 4 lead pieces + 4 Nariyal = total 8 pieces are advised to immerse in flowing water for Rahu in the 11th house had been discussed in detail earlier. Please get the clarification from the archives. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " sood4u_online " <sood4u_online wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji > Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for your > advice and clarification on upayas: > > per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be decided > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of the > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > > regularly. > > > in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is palced in > 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah kyu karte hai > 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 khane > chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab usko 4th me > bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din jal parwah > karte hai > > to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte > > agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai to plz > sorry in advance. > > > Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I hope you > will again reply me in future. > > With Regards > Amit Sood > > > > varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo sab > samjhene ki Koshish ki > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sood ji, > > > > Thank you so much for seeking clarification. That shows your > > interest in the lal Kitab system of Vedic astrology. > > > > My explanation earlier of the duration of Upaya , as we see it, has > > been divided into two parts. > > > > [ a ] When the effect of a planet is to be distanced, or its nature > > changed, or destroyed for that year. In this case the duration > > depends on the house the planet is placed in. Therefore if a planet > > placed in the 6th house is to be distanced the upaya of immersing > > will have to be done for 6 days, if a planet is placed in the 5th > > house and its nature is to be changed through offering the karak > > vastu in a temple, then the upaya will have to be done for 5 days; > > similarly if the effect of a planet placed in the 4th is to be > > destroyed for that year then the upaya of burying the karak vastu > > will have to be done for 4 days regularly. > > > > [ b ] The example of placing haldi ganth in the North east corner > > in a brass bowl was given to explain as to how a planet can be > > established in a different house through moving it along > > the 'drishti path' [ grah ko sthapit karna ]. If the Jupiter is > > placed in the 8th house then the best upaya will be to move the > > planet to a house where it will be best placed. Jupiter, through > his > > 9th aspect looks at the 4th house from the 8th. Therefore > > the `drishti path' for the Jupiter from the 8th house to the 4th > > house is already laid out. The Jupiter can be moved from the 8th > > house to the 4th house without any problem. Jupiter will be most > > auspiciously placed there. > > > > Once this has been decided that moving the Jupiter will be > > beneficial then the question arises of the duration of the upaya. > > > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be decided > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of the > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > > regularly. > > > > Suppose the nature of this Jupiter placed in the 8th house were to > > be changed, then the upaya will have been to offer a haldi ganth at > > any temple for 8 days only. Then the house it is placed in would > > have been relevant. > > > > I hope I have clarified our view on the duration of upaya. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Varun Ji, Wishes and Greeting to you and all > > > > > > Varun Ji Apne kha ki agar koi grah 8th house main hai to us ki > > karak > > > vastu ko 8 din lgatar jal parwah,offer to temple, or burried kare > > us > > > grah ko dur karne k liye. > > > > > > Per sath me he aapne keh dia ki agar Jupiter 8th house main hai > to > > > haldi ki ganth ko 9days north east corner main rakhen. > > > > > > Varun ji is me kya logic hai plz btayen ki aapne Jupiter 8th ke > > upay > > > ko 9 dyas karne ko kha instead of 8days kyuki apne he kha ki > (then > > > the house the planet is placed in is taken into account). > > > > > > Sir please is per drishti dal de main itna to jan kaar nahi hu > per > > > aap sab ke aur bhagwan k ashirwad se is vidya ko seekhne ki > > koshish > > > kar rha hu > > > > > > And thanks in advance, waiting for reply > > > > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > > -- In , " girish_raheja " > > > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this valuable information. > > > > > > > > With respect, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > It is an important question which is faced by every > > Lalkitabist > > > > when > > > > > prescribing a Lal Kitab upaya namely the duration of upaya. > > > > > > > > > > Some upaya have been advised in the book to be done for 43 > > days > > > or > > > > > even 43 weeks regularly. In very few cases the book mentions > > the > > > > > duration of the upaya. Invariably it would just say e.g. > > chandra > > > > ka > > > > > upaya madadgar hoga and so on. > > > > > > > > > > Under these circumstances it is the Lalkitabist himself who > > has > > > to > > > > > use his common sense and prescribe the duration of the upaya. > > The > > > > > duration becomes crucial in the following cases: > > > > > > > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be immersed in flowing > > water. > > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be offered in a temple. > > > > > If a karak vastu of a planet is to be buried. > > > > > If a karak vastu is to be established in a different house. > > > > > > > > > > Our view is : > > > > > > > > > > When a karak object is to be distanced by throwing it in > > flowing > > > > > water, or is to be offered at a temple to get its nature > > changed, > > > > or > > > > > is to be buried to destroy the effect of the planet for that > > > year, > > > > > then the house the planet is placed in is taken into account. > > > > > > > > > > For example if the effects of a planet placed in the 8th > house > > > are > > > > > to be distanced then the karak object of that planet will > have > > to > > > > be > > > > > immersed in flowing water for 8 days regularly, the upaya > will > > > > have > > > > > to be done for the same duration if the planet is to be sent > > to a > > > > > temple to get its nature changed; the karak object will have > > to > > > be > > > > > buried for 8 days if the effects are to be destroyed for that > > > > year. > > > > > The general convention adopted by most Lalkitabists is that > > > > instead > > > > > of carrying the upaya for 8 days regularly they suggest 8 > > pieces > > > > of > > > > > that karak item to be immersed, or offered at the temple, or > > > > buried > > > > > in one day itself. This could be because of the paucity of > > time > > > > and > > > > > convenience. > > > > > > > > > > But for establishing a planet in a particular house the > > procedure > > > > is > > > > > different. The duration of the upaya will depend on the steps > > it > > > > > will take to reach that house. The steps are counted in > zodiac > > > > > terms. If a Jupiter placed in the 8th house is to be moved to > > the > > > > > 4th house then a haldi ganth will have to be placed in the > > North > > > > > East corner each day for 9 days regularly [ or placing 9 > haldi > > > > ganth > > > > > in one single day ] > > > > > > > > > > This is our perception of this concept. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Respected Varunji thanks for reply varun ji wo main to main samajh gya hu ki 8peice of sikke ya 4 nariyal aur 4 lead peice kyu jal parwah krte hai hai per chakar phir wahi per aa kar ruk rha hai ki 8th house se 4th per jane k liye 9 gharo ko paar karna hai jaise 9 din lagatar north east corner main haldi rakhi to isi trah 9 din he lead k peice kyu jal parwah na kre kiyu ji 8th house se 4th per jana hai to 9 khane chalna pade ga Agar aapka answer pehle he discussed ho chuka hai to I will try to read that one again, after when i find. with warm regards Amit Sood , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Sood saheb, > > Why 8 pieces of lead are advised to be immersed in flowing water for > Rahu in the 8th, and also why 4 lead pieces + 4 Nariyal = total 8 > pieces are advised to immerse in flowing water for Rahu in the 11th > house had been discussed in detail earlier. > > Please get the clarification from the archives. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > Respected Varun Ji > > Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for your > > advice and clarification on upayas: > > > > per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya > > > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the > > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be > decided > > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. Counting > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the > > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of > the > > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > > > regularly. > > > > > > in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > > > varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is palced > in > > 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah kyu karte > hai > > 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 khane > > chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab usko 4th > me > > bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din jal > parwah > > karte hai > > > > to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte > > > > agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai to plz > > sorry in advance. > > > > > > Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I hope you > > will again reply me in future. > > > > With Regards > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo sab > > samjhene ki Koshish ki > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 aadarneeya Sood saheb, yadi aap archives se is vishay par huyee bahas parhenge to aap ko is prashna ka poora uttar mil jayega. very briefly, The 8th from the 8th house is the 3rd house and the 8th from the 11th house is the 6th house. The Rahu is best placed in these two houses. For details read the debate from the archives. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " sood4u_online " <sood4u_online wrote: > > Respected Varunji > > thanks for reply > > varun ji wo main to main samajh gya hu ki 8peice of sikke ya 4 > nariyal aur 4 lead peice kyu jal parwah krte hai hai per chakar phir > wahi per aa kar ruk rha hai ki 8th house se 4th per jane k liye 9 > gharo ko paar karna hai jaise 9 din lagatar north east corner main > haldi rakhi to isi trah 9 din he lead k peice kyu jal parwah na kre > kiyu ji 8th house se 4th per jana hai to 9 khane chalna pade ga > > > Agar aapka answer pehle he discussed ho chuka hai to I will try to > read that one again, after when i find. > > with warm regards > Amit Sood > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sood saheb, > > > > Why 8 pieces of lead are advised to be immersed in flowing water > for > > Rahu in the 8th, and also why 4 lead pieces + 4 Nariyal = total 8 > > pieces are advised to immerse in flowing water for Rahu in the > 11th > > house had been discussed in detail earlier. > > > > Please get the clarification from the archives. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji > > > Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for your > > > advice and clarification on upayas: > > > > > > per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya > > > > > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on the > > > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be > > decided > > > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. > Counting > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore the > > > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner of > > the > > > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > > > > regularly. > > > > > > > > > in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > > > > > varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is palced > > in > > > 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah kyu karte > > hai > > > 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 khane > > > chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab usko 4th > > me > > > bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din jal > > parwah > > > karte hai > > > > > > to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte > > > > > > agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai to plz > > > sorry in advance. > > > > > > > > > Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I hope > you > > > will again reply me in future. > > > > > > With Regards > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo sab > > > samjhene ki Koshish ki > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Respected Varun ji tahnks for reply Vaun ji aapne kha ki 8th se 8th,3rd house hai so it is best place for rahu to varun ji hum yeh kyu kehte hai ki <iska dhyaan rakhe agar surya 4th house me hai to lead k 8 tukde jal parwah na kare, is hisab se to kar lena chaheye kyuki agar rahu k 8 ya 8 din lagatar lead k peice jal parwah kiye to wo 3rd house me chala gya to isse rahu aur suraj to ikhatte nahi hue nahi dil ki bimari ka chance bna sir plz mind na karna mere ko her answer se ek naya question mil raha hai and I hope you will give me your valuable advise me on thses topics. jis se main apna gyaan bda saku and I again thanks With warm regards Amit sood , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > aadarneeya Sood saheb, > > yadi aap archives se is vishay par huyee bahas parhenge to aap ko is > prashna ka poora uttar mil jayega. > very briefly, The 8th from the 8th house is the 3rd house and the > 8th from the 11th house is the 6th house. The Rahu is best placed > in these two houses. For details read the debate from the archives. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > , " sood4u_online " > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > Respected Varunji > > > > thanks for reply > > > > varun ji wo main to main samajh gya hu ki 8peice of sikke ya 4 > > nariyal aur 4 lead peice kyu jal parwah krte hai hai per chakar > phir > > wahi per aa kar ruk rha hai ki 8th house se 4th per jane k liye 9 > > gharo ko paar karna hai jaise 9 din lagatar north east corner main > > haldi rakhi to isi trah 9 din he lead k peice kyu jal parwah na > kre > > kiyu ji 8th house se 4th per jana hai to 9 khane chalna pade ga > > > > > > Agar aapka answer pehle he discussed ho chuka hai to I will try to > > read that one again, after when i find. > > > > with warm regards > > Amit Sood > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sood saheb, > > > > > > Why 8 pieces of lead are advised to be immersed in flowing water > > for > > > Rahu in the 8th, and also why 4 lead pieces + 4 Nariyal = total > 8 > > > pieces are advised to immerse in flowing water for Rahu in the > > 11th > > > house had been discussed in detail earlier. > > > > > > Please get the clarification from the archives. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji > > > > Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for > your > > > > advice and clarification on upayas: > > > > > > > > per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya > > > > > > > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided on > the > > > > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will be > > > decided > > > > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. > > Counting > > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. Therefore > the > > > > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East corner > of > > > the > > > > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 days > > > > > regularly. > > > > > > > > > > > > in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > > > > > > > varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is > palced > > > in > > > > 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah kyu > karte > > > hai > > > > 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 > khane > > > > chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab usko > 4th > > > me > > > > bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din jal > > > parwah > > > > karte hai > > > > > > > > to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte > > > > > > > > agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai to > plz > > > > sorry in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I hope > > you > > > > will again reply me in future. > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo sab > > > > samjhene ki Koshish ki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Respected Sood saheb, This question about immersing karaks of Rahu and the Sun in the 4th has also been discussed earlier. You can go through the entire debate in the archives. Briefly, immersing does not mean sending a planet to the 4th house. Immersing means distancing the effect of planet. Grah ke asar ko apane se dur karna. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " sood4u_online " <sood4u_online wrote: > > > > Respected Varun ji > tahnks for reply > > Vaun ji aapne kha ki 8th se 8th,3rd house hai so it is best place > for rahu to varun ji hum yeh kyu kehte hai ki <iska dhyaan rakhe > agar surya 4th house me hai to lead k 8 tukde jal parwah na kare, is > hisab se to kar lena chaheye kyuki agar rahu k 8 ya 8 din lagatar > lead k peice jal parwah kiye to wo 3rd house me chala gya to isse > rahu aur suraj to ikhatte nahi hue nahi dil ki bimari ka chance bna > > sir plz mind na karna mere ko her answer se ek naya question mil > raha hai and I hope you will give me your valuable advise me on > thses topics. jis se main apna gyaan bda saku > > and I again thanks > > With warm regards > Amit sood > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > aadarneeya Sood saheb, > > > > yadi aap archives se is vishay par huyee bahas parhenge to aap ko > is > > prashna ka poora uttar mil jayega. > > very briefly, The 8th from the 8th house is the 3rd house and the > > 8th from the 11th house is the 6th house. The Rahu is best placed > > in these two houses. For details read the debate from the archives. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varunji > > > > > > thanks for reply > > > > > > varun ji wo main to main samajh gya hu ki 8peice of sikke ya 4 > > > nariyal aur 4 lead peice kyu jal parwah krte hai hai per chakar > > phir > > > wahi per aa kar ruk rha hai ki 8th house se 4th per jane k liye > 9 > > > gharo ko paar karna hai jaise 9 din lagatar north east corner > main > > > haldi rakhi to isi trah 9 din he lead k peice kyu jal parwah na > > kre > > > kiyu ji 8th house se 4th per jana hai to 9 khane chalna pade ga > > > > > > > > > Agar aapka answer pehle he discussed ho chuka hai to I will try > to > > > read that one again, after when i find. > > > > > > with warm regards > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sood saheb, > > > > > > > > Why 8 pieces of lead are advised to be immersed in flowing > water > > > for > > > > Rahu in the 8th, and also why 4 lead pieces + 4 Nariyal = > total > > 8 > > > > pieces are advised to immerse in flowing water for Rahu in > the > > > 11th > > > > house had been discussed in detail earlier. > > > > > > > > Please get the clarification from the archives. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > > > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji > > > > > Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for > > your > > > > > advice and clarification on upayas: > > > > > > > > > > per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya > > > > > > > > > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided > on > > the > > > > > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will > be > > > > decided > > > > > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. > > > Counting > > > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > Therefore > > the > > > > > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East > corner > > of > > > > the > > > > > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 > days > > > > > > regularly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > > > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > > > > > > > > > varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is > > palced > > > > in > > > > > 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah kyu > > karte > > > > hai > > > > > 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 > > khane > > > > > chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab > usko > > 4th > > > > me > > > > > bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din > jal > > > > parwah > > > > > karte hai > > > > > > > > > > to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte > > > > > > > > > > agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai > to > > plz > > > > > sorry in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I > hope > > > you > > > > > will again reply me in future. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo > sab > > > > > samjhene ki Koshish ki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Dear Varun Ji Thanks a lot for answering all the questions now I will again try to make a contact with you to solve the queries. again thanks with warm regards Amit Sood , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Sood saheb, > > This question about immersing karaks of Rahu and the Sun in the 4th > has also been discussed earlier. You can go through the entire > debate in the archives. > > Briefly, immersing does not mean sending a planet to the 4th house. > Immersing means distancing the effect of planet. Grah ke asar ko > apane se dur karna. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji > > tahnks for reply > > > > Vaun ji aapne kha ki 8th se 8th,3rd house hai so it is best place > > for rahu to varun ji hum yeh kyu kehte hai ki <iska dhyaan rakhe > > agar surya 4th house me hai to lead k 8 tukde jal parwah na kare, > is > > hisab se to kar lena chaheye kyuki agar rahu k 8 ya 8 din lagatar > > lead k peice jal parwah kiye to wo 3rd house me chala gya to isse > > rahu aur suraj to ikhatte nahi hue nahi dil ki bimari ka chance bna > > > > sir plz mind na karna mere ko her answer se ek naya question mil > > raha hai and I hope you will give me your valuable advise me on > > thses topics. jis se main apna gyaan bda saku > > > > and I again thanks > > > > With warm regards > > Amit sood > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > aadarneeya Sood saheb, > > > > > > yadi aap archives se is vishay par huyee bahas parhenge to aap > ko > > is > > > prashna ka poora uttar mil jayega. > > > very briefly, The 8th from the 8th house is the 3rd house and > the > > > 8th from the 11th house is the 6th house. The Rahu is best > placed > > > in these two houses. For details read the debate from the > archives. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sood4u_online " > > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varunji > > > > > > > > thanks for reply > > > > > > > > varun ji wo main to main samajh gya hu ki 8peice of sikke ya 4 > > > > nariyal aur 4 lead peice kyu jal parwah krte hai hai per > chakar > > > phir > > > > wahi per aa kar ruk rha hai ki 8th house se 4th per jane k > liye > > 9 > > > > gharo ko paar karna hai jaise 9 din lagatar north east corner > > main > > > > haldi rakhi to isi trah 9 din he lead k peice kyu jal parwah > na > > > kre > > > > kiyu ji 8th house se 4th per jana hai to 9 khane chalna pade ga > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar aapka answer pehle he discussed ho chuka hai to I will > try > > to > > > > read that one again, after when i find. > > > > > > > > with warm regards > > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sood saheb, > > > > > > > > > > Why 8 pieces of lead are advised to be immersed in flowing > > water > > > > for > > > > > Rahu in the 8th, and also why 4 lead pieces + 4 Nariyal = > > total > > > 8 > > > > > pieces are advised to immerse in flowing water for Rahu in > > the > > > > 11th > > > > > house had been discussed in detail earlier. > > > > > > > > > > Please get the clarification from the archives. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sood4u_online " > > > > > <sood4u_online@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your reply and and again thanks a ton for > > > your > > > > > > advice and clarification on upayas: > > > > > > > > > > > > per varun ji is paragraph me aa kar main fir fas gya > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case the duration of the upaya will NOT be decided > > on > > > the > > > > > > > basis of the house Jupiter is placed in, instead it will > > be > > > > > decided > > > > > > > on the fact that how far is the 4th house from the 8th. > > > > Counting > > > > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > Therefore > > > the > > > > > > > upaya will be to place a brass bowl in the North East > > corner > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > house and drop a whole haldi ganth each day in it for 9 > > days > > > > > > > regularly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in above mentioned pargraph you said that Counting > > > > > > > zodiacally the 4th house is the 9th from the 8th. > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji this is true in all cases as well as the rahu is > > > palced > > > > > in > > > > > > 8th house to hum 8 tukde sikee(lead) ke 8 din he parwah > kyu > > > karte > > > > > hai > > > > > > 9 dino ki jagah per kiuki 8th se 4th house jane k liye 9 > > > khane > > > > > > chalna padna pta to hum rahu k 8th house per hone se jab > > usko > > > 4th > > > > > me > > > > > > bhehte hai to 1 sikka roj 8 din ya 8 tukde sikke ke 1 din > > jal > > > > > parwah > > > > > > karte hai > > > > > > > > > > > > to hum usko be 9 din he kyu nai karte > > > > > > > > > > > > agar varun ji main yha galat hu ya mera question galat hai > > to > > > plz > > > > > > sorry in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again varun ji thanks a lot for your instant reply. And I > > hope > > > > you > > > > > > will again reply me in future. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > Amit Sood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji apne jo be mere ko achi tarah samjhaya mainne wo > > sab > > > > > > samjhene ki Koshish ki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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