1941 Gutka : Contradiction ? a few facts / Girish ji

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Respected Girish ji,

 

What you have said makes a part sense. It is the statement " nihayat

purdard maut hove " that is what I am uncomfortable about.

 

With Saturn+ Venus in the 4th and the Moon in the 10th [ replacing

moon for the sun] how could that lead to a 'nihayat purdard maut'.

 

But if the statement of the book for Moon in the 10th :

 

" vaid dhanvatari saath chahe hote, maut pani se hoti ho "

 

is taken to mean 'nihayat purdard maut' then what you have suggested

derserves a serious consideration.

 

Let us hear from other scholars also.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " girish_raheja "

<girish_raheja wrote:

>

> Respected Varun ji,

>

> Could it be Moon in place of the Sun?

>

> One thing is absolutely certain that the nature of results listed

> for this combination can not be given for a Varshphal kundali. The

> long term results, as they are, indicate that the combination is

for

> the Janma Kundali.

>

> Since in a Janma Kundali this combination is not possible with Sun

> as one of the planets, have you given a thought to the idea that

> Moon could be the planet in place of the Sun.

>

> I suggest Moon because of two indicators in the results; it talks

> about the lambi umra and jaydad. Both these things could be

> associated with Moon and not the Sun.

>

> Faithfully,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

>

>

>

, " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> >

> >

> > A few facts which you could keep in mind while assessing the

> problem of

> > contradiction.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fact 1 :

> >

> >

> >

> > Venus + Saturn aspecting the Sun or the Sun aspecting this

> combination

> > can never occur in a Janma Kundali.

> >

> >

> >

> > Venus can not be 180 degrees away from the Sun. Venus can not be

> more

> > than 49 degrees away from the Sun. This is an astronomical truth

> and can

> > not be changed.

> >

> >

> >

> > Therefore, the results accruing for this situation can never

> happen , as

> > far as the Janma Kundali is concerned.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fact 2 :

> >

> >

> >

> > This situation of Venus + Saturn under the aspect of the Sun or

> visa

> > versa can occur only in a Varsh Phal kundali.

> >

> >

> >

> > It will not be prudent to declare a painful death to the native

> simply

> > because the combinations in this situation happen to occur in any

> > particular year. Varsh Phal kundali, meant for a particular

year,

> should

> > not be used to declare results which are spread all through the

> life.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fact 3 :

> >

> >

> >

> > This situation can occur in a Kundali cast with the help of the

> Palm

> > print.

> >

> >

> >

> > In this condition we have to keep in mind whether to give

credence

> to

> > the Janma Kundali cast scientifically based on the birth data,

or a

> > kundali cast with the help of the palm print.

> >

> > In my opinion the kundali based on the features on the palm can

at

> the

> > most be used to verify the Janma kundali. For predictions and

> suggesting

> > upaya it is the scientifically cast Janma kundali which should

be

> used.

> > Even otherwise how many Lal Kitab scholars are proficient in

> preparing a

> > kundali with the help of the palm print.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

>