1941 Gutka : Contradiction ? a few facts/ kulbir sir

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Sir kulbir ji,

 

if ketu is with sun then sun will be madhyam, barbad nahi hoga. ketu

pahale khane mein sun ko uchcha karata hai.therefore shani shukra

masnui ketu vali bat kam hi jachti hai.

respectful

Girish Raheja

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

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> raheja ji

>

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> the first of 2 thing are to be resolved i.e.

> 1. IS LINE NO 14 PAGE 283 IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LINE NO 1 ALSO

> MARKED AS SUBTITLE ON THE SAME PAGE.

> 2. VENUS AND SATURN TOGETHER FORM MASNUI KETU.

> study sun 4 and masnui ketu 10.

> chuthe ka suraj jab 10 ke ketu ko dekhega to result kya hoga and

for

> line

> for line 9-10 page 284 chuthe ka masnui ketu jab das ke suraj ko

> dekhega tab kya hoga.

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> kulbirbance.

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> , " girish_raheja "

> <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Varun ji,

> >

> > Could it be Moon in place of the Sun?

> >

> > One thing is absolutely certain that the nature of results listed

> > for this combination can not be given for a Varshphal kundali.

The

> > long term results, as they are, indicate that the combination is

> for

> > the Janma Kundali.

> >

> > Since in a Janma Kundali this combination is not possible with

Sun

> > as one of the planets, have you given a thought to the idea that

> > Moon could be the planet in place of the Sun.

> >

> > I suggest Moon because of two indicators in the results; it talks

> > about the lambi umra and jaydad. Both these things could be

> > associated with Moon and not the Sun.

> >

> > Faithfully,

> >

> > Girish Raheja

> >

> >

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> >

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected members,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > A few facts which you could keep in mind while assessing the

> > problem of

> > > contradiction.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Fact 1 :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Venus + Saturn aspecting the Sun or the Sun aspecting this

> > combination

> > > can never occur in a Janma Kundali.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Venus can not be 180 degrees away from the Sun. Venus can not

be

> > more

> > > than 49 degrees away from the Sun. This is an astronomical

truth

> > and can

> > > not be changed.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Therefore, the results accruing for this situation can never

> > happen , as

> > > far as the Janma Kundali is concerned.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Fact 2 :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This situation of Venus + Saturn under the aspect of the Sun or

> > visa

> > > versa can occur only in a Varsh Phal kundali.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It will not be prudent to declare a painful death to the native

> > simply

> > > because the combinations in this situation happen to occur in

any

> > > particular year. Varsh Phal kundali, meant for a particular

> year,

> > should

> > > not be used to declare results which are spread all through the

> > life.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Fact 3 :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This situation can occur in a Kundali cast with the help of the

> > Palm

> > > print.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In this condition we have to keep in mind whether to give

> credence

> > to

> > > the Janma Kundali cast scientifically based on the birth data,

> or a

> > > kundali cast with the help of the palm print.

> > >

> > > In my opinion the kundali based on the features on the palm can

> at

> > the

> > > most be used to verify the Janma kundali. For predictions and

> > suggesting

> > > upaya it is the scientifically cast Janma kundali which should

> be

> > used.

> > > Even otherwise how many Lal Kitab scholars are proficient in

> > preparing a

> > > kundali with the help of the palm print.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> >

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