1941 Gutka : Contradiction ? a few facts

[Guest guest]

Respected members,

 

A few facts which you could keep in mind while assessing the problem of contradiction.

 

Fact 1 :

 

Venus + Saturn aspecting the Sun or the Sun aspecting this combination can never occur in a Janma Kundali.

 

Venus can not be 180 degrees away from the Sun. Venus can not be more than 49 degrees away from the Sun. This is an astronomical truth and can not be changed.

 

Therefore, the results accruing for this situation can never happen , as far as the Janma Kundali is concerned.

 

Fact 2 :

 

This situation of Venus + Saturn under the aspect of the Sun or visa versa can occur only in a Varsh Phal kundali.

 

It will not be prudent to declare a painful death to the native simply because the combinations in this situation happen to occur in any particular year. Varsh Phal kundali, meant for a particular year, should not be used to declare results which are spread all through the life.

 

Fact 3 :

 

This situation can occur in a Kundali cast with the help of the Palm print.

 

In this condition we have to keep in mind whether to give credence to the Janma Kundali cast scientifically based on the birth data, or a kundali cast with the help of the palm print.

In my opinion the kundali based on the features on the palm can at the most be used to verify the Janma kundali. For predictions and suggesting upaya it is the scientifically cast Janma kundali which should be used. Even otherwise how many Lal Kitab scholars are proficient in preparing a kundali with the help of the palm print.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

[Guest guest]

Respected Varun ji,

 

Could it be Moon in place of the Sun?

 

One thing is absolutely certain that the nature of results listed

for this combination can not be given for a Varshphal kundali. The

long term results, as they are, indicate that the combination is for

the Janma Kundali.

 

Since in a Janma Kundali this combination is not possible with Sun

as one of the planets, have you given a thought to the idea that

Moon could be the planet in place of the Sun.

 

I suggest Moon because of two indicators in the results; it talks

about the lambi umra and jaydad. Both these things could be

associated with Moon and not the Sun.

 

Faithfully,

 

Girish Raheja

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

>

> Respected members,

>

>

>

> A few facts which you could keep in mind while assessing the

problem of

> contradiction.

>

>

>

> Fact 1 :

>

>

>

> Venus + Saturn aspecting the Sun or the Sun aspecting this

combination

> can never occur in a Janma Kundali.

>

>

>

> Venus can not be 180 degrees away from the Sun. Venus can not be

more

> than 49 degrees away from the Sun. This is an astronomical truth

and can

> not be changed.

>

>

>

> Therefore, the results accruing for this situation can never

happen , as

> far as the Janma Kundali is concerned.

>

>

>

> Fact 2 :

>

>

>

> This situation of Venus + Saturn under the aspect of the Sun or

visa

> versa can occur only in a Varsh Phal kundali.

>

>

>

> It will not be prudent to declare a painful death to the native

simply

> because the combinations in this situation happen to occur in any

> particular year. Varsh Phal kundali, meant for a particular year,

should

> not be used to declare results which are spread all through the

life.

>

>

>

> Fact 3 :

>

>

>

> This situation can occur in a Kundali cast with the help of the

Palm

> print.

>

>

>

> In this condition we have to keep in mind whether to give credence

to

> the Janma Kundali cast scientifically based on the birth data, or a

> kundali cast with the help of the palm print.

>

> In my opinion the kundali based on the features on the palm can at

the

> most be used to verify the Janma kundali. For predictions and

suggesting

> upaya it is the scientifically cast Janma kundali which should be

used.

> Even otherwise how many Lal Kitab scholars are proficient in

preparing a

> kundali with the help of the palm print.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

[Guest guest]

raheja ji

 

 

the first of 2 thing are to be resolved i.e.

1. IS LINE NO 14 PAGE 283 IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LINE NO 1 ALSO

MARKED AS SUBTITLE ON THE SAME PAGE.

2. VENUS AND SATURN TOGETHER FORM MASNUI KETU.

study sun 4 and masnui ketu 10.

chuthe ka suraj jab 10 ke ketu ko dekhega to result kya hoga and for

line

for line 9-10 page 284 chuthe ka masnui ketu jab das ke suraj ko

dekhega tab kya hoga.

 

kulbirbance.

 

 

 

 

 

, " girish_raheja "

<girish_raheja wrote:

>

> Respected Varun ji,

>

> Could it be Moon in place of the Sun?

>

> One thing is absolutely certain that the nature of results listed

> for this combination can not be given for a Varshphal kundali. The

> long term results, as they are, indicate that the combination is

for

> the Janma Kundali.

>

> Since in a Janma Kundali this combination is not possible with Sun

> as one of the planets, have you given a thought to the idea that

> Moon could be the planet in place of the Sun.

>

> I suggest Moon because of two indicators in the results; it talks

> about the lambi umra and jaydad. Both these things could be

> associated with Moon and not the Sun.

>

> Faithfully,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

>

>

>

, " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> >

> >

> > A few facts which you could keep in mind while assessing the

> problem of

> > contradiction.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fact 1 :

> >

> >

> >

> > Venus + Saturn aspecting the Sun or the Sun aspecting this

> combination

> > can never occur in a Janma Kundali.

> >

> >

> >

> > Venus can not be 180 degrees away from the Sun. Venus can not be

> more

> > than 49 degrees away from the Sun. This is an astronomical truth

> and can

> > not be changed.

> >

> >

> >

> > Therefore, the results accruing for this situation can never

> happen , as

> > far as the Janma Kundali is concerned.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fact 2 :

> >

> >

> >

> > This situation of Venus + Saturn under the aspect of the Sun or

> visa

> > versa can occur only in a Varsh Phal kundali.

> >

> >

> >

> > It will not be prudent to declare a painful death to the native

> simply

> > because the combinations in this situation happen to occur in any

> > particular year. Varsh Phal kundali, meant for a particular

year,

> should

> > not be used to declare results which are spread all through the

> life.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fact 3 :

> >

> >

> >

> > This situation can occur in a Kundali cast with the help of the

> Palm

> > print.

> >

> >

> >

> > In this condition we have to keep in mind whether to give

credence

> to

> > the Janma Kundali cast scientifically based on the birth data,

or a

> > kundali cast with the help of the palm print.

> >

> > In my opinion the kundali based on the features on the palm can

at

> the

> > most be used to verify the Janma kundali. For predictions and

> suggesting

> > upaya it is the scientifically cast Janma kundali which should

be

> used.

> > Even otherwise how many Lal Kitab scholars are proficient in

> preparing a

> > kundali with the help of the palm print.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

>