Directions [ dishayen ] and the Lal Kitab/ Kulbir bhai

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir bhai,

 

It is not a feather in my cap. We all participated in the discussion

therefore it is an achievement of all of us. Incidently you had made

the most contribution.

Let us all move forward rogether sharing what we know.

 

Regards,

 

Varun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

>

> yes guru ji;

>

> Gutka; KHANNA NO 5 page 17 line 8 specifically mentions

> DEEWAR MASHRIQI KUNDALI HAI. no doubt these directions referred to

> in khanna no. introduction in 1942 and others apply strictly to

> makkan kundali only.

> thanks for such detailed explanation.

> it is yet another feather in your cap.

>

> kulbirbance

>

>

>

>

>

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> >

> >

> > Geographical Direction :

> >

> >

> >

> > East is where the sun rises; 180 degrees to the East is West;

> >

> > Facing the rising Sun the North will be on the left; 180 degrees

> to the

> > North will be the South.

> >

> > This is the Cardinal truth of astronomy. Nothing can change this

> truth,

> > astrology or no astrology.

> >

> > Indian Vedic astrology and vastu shashtra has further designated

> the

> > corners / angles by different names. North East is known as

Eeshan

> kon;

> > South east is known as Aagnyey kon; South west is known as

> Nairitya kon;

> > and North west is known as Vayavya kon. This division and

> nomenclature

> > is universally accepted in Indian classical literature on

> astrology and

> > Vastu.

> >

> >

> >

> > The Indian rishis of astrology had realized long back that a

Janma

> > Kundali is an imprint or a map of the celestial bodies in the sky

> at the

> > time of birth. Therefore in a Janma Kundali the planets are

> plotted as

> > accurately as possible the way they appeared in the sky, over our

> head,

> > at the time of birth.

> >

> >

> >

> > In order to accurately plot the planets on the Janma Kundali it

> became

> > necessary that the geographical directions be assigned to the

Janma

> > Kundali.

> >

> >

> >

> > As you would notice conventionally North is marked on a map

> similarly

> > the Ascendant is marked East on a Janma Kundali. Any body born at

> sun

> > rise will have his sun in the ascendant. If some one is born at

> mid

> > noon when the Sun reaches its zenith, the sun will be placed in

> the 10th

> > house of the Janma Kundali. The rishis marked it as North. Any

> body born

> > in the evening when the sun sets, his sun will be in the 7th

> house, the

> > rishis marked the 7th house as the West. The night falls, it gets

> dark

> > all around and if some one is born at midnight his sun will be in

> the

> > 4th house of the Kundali, hence the 4th house got marked as the

> South.

> > These directions truly and faithfully represent the overturned

sky

> > hanging over our heads. [ katora moti bhara … ulta dhara ]

> >

> >

> >

> > Traditional Vedic astrology and the Indian Vastu follow this

> tradition.

> >

> >

> >

> > Directions in the Lal Kitab :

> >

> >

> >

> > There is no specific mention of the natural directions as such in

> the

> > book. But since the Lal Kitab has accepted the traditional Vedic

> concept

> > of a Janma Kundali that it is a map of the planets as they were

> placed

> > at the time of birth and where the house # 1 means the Lagna , we

> assume

> > that the Lal Kitab also follows the traditional alignment of the

> Janma

> > kundali vis-à-vis the celestial bodies in the sky.

> >

> >

> >

> > But while talking about ‘ makan kundali se teve ki

> > durusti’ [ confirming the janma kundali based on the house ] Pt.

> > Roopchand ji assigned directions to various parts of the house

> iside. In

> > the makan kundali the North is denoted by house# 6, the natural

> > corollary would be that the South should be 180 degrees apart,

but

> the

> > in the Makan kundali the South is denoted by house # 8; house # 4

> is

> > denoted as North east, South west is denoted by house # 7, where

> as they

> > should be 180 degree apart; North west is denoted by house # 2

and

> the

> > South east by house # 12, that is more than 180 degrees apart.

> >

> >

> >

> > This assignment is entirely his own and what was the logic for it

> is not

> > known to any one. This assignment of the directions is for the

> interior

> > of the house only and that too for a specific purpose and can not

> be

> > carried forward and applied to the Kundali.

> >

> >

> >

> > We will commit a great mistake if we applied the directions

> denoting the

> > interior of the house set by the Lal Kitab to the Janma Kundali.

> Janma

> > Kundali is a universal document. It remains the same whether

being

> > analysed by a traditional vedic astrologer or a Lal Kitab

> astrologer.

> > Since the Janma Kundali is a universal document, the directions

> assigned

> > to the Janma Kundali are those which have been assigned by our

> vedic

> > astrology Rishis and have been universally accepted. They can

> neither be

> > changed nor appropriated in any way to accommodate any different

> scheme

> > of things.

> >

> >

> >

> > Had the Lal Kitab used a horoscope differently cast then it could

> have

> > applied its own rules of directions. So long as the Lal Kitab

uses

> the

> > traditionally cast horoscope with the Lagna aligned to the East,

> it has

> > no option but to follow the traditionally accepted scheme of

> directions.

> >

> >

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

>