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yes guru ji;

 

Gutka; KHANNA NO 5 page 17 line 8 specifically mentions

DEEWAR MASHRIQI KUNDALI HAI. no doubt these directions referred to

in khanna no. introduction in 1942 and others apply strictly to

makkan kundali only.

thanks for such detailed explanation.

it is yet another feather in your cap.

 

kulbirbance

 

 

 

 

 

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

>

> Respected members,

>

>

>

> Geographical Direction :

>

>

>

> East is where the sun rises; 180 degrees to the East is West;

>

> Facing the rising Sun the North will be on the left; 180 degrees

to the

> North will be the South.

>

> This is the Cardinal truth of astronomy. Nothing can change this

truth,

> astrology or no astrology.

>

> Indian Vedic astrology and vastu shashtra has further designated

the

> corners / angles by different names. North East is known as Eeshan

kon;

> South east is known as Aagnyey kon; South west is known as

Nairitya kon;

> and North west is known as Vayavya kon. This division and

nomenclature

> is universally accepted in Indian classical literature on

astrology and

> Vastu.

>

>

>

> The Indian rishis of astrology had realized long back that a Janma

> Kundali is an imprint or a map of the celestial bodies in the sky

at the

> time of birth. Therefore in a Janma Kundali the planets are

plotted as

> accurately as possible the way they appeared in the sky, over our

head,

> at the time of birth.

>

>

>

> In order to accurately plot the planets on the Janma Kundali it

became

> necessary that the geographical directions be assigned to the Janma

> Kundali.

>

>

>

> As you would notice conventionally North is marked on a map

similarly

> the Ascendant is marked East on a Janma Kundali. Any body born at

sun

> rise will have his sun in the ascendant. If some one is born at

mid

> noon when the Sun reaches its zenith, the sun will be placed in

the 10th

> house of the Janma Kundali. The rishis marked it as North. Any

body born

> in the evening when the sun sets, his sun will be in the 7th

house, the

> rishis marked the 7th house as the West. The night falls, it gets

dark

> all around and if some one is born at midnight his sun will be in

the

> 4th house of the Kundali, hence the 4th house got marked as the

South.

> These directions truly and faithfully represent the overturned sky

> hanging over our heads. [ katora moti bhara … ulta dhara ]

>

>

>

> Traditional Vedic astrology and the Indian Vastu follow this

tradition.

>

>

>

> Directions in the Lal Kitab :

>

>

>

> There is no specific mention of the natural directions as such in

the

> book. But since the Lal Kitab has accepted the traditional Vedic

concept

> of a Janma Kundali that it is a map of the planets as they were

placed

> at the time of birth and where the house # 1 means the Lagna , we

assume

> that the Lal Kitab also follows the traditional alignment of the

Janma

> kundali vis-à-vis the celestial bodies in the sky.

>

>

>

> But while talking about ‘ makan kundali se teve ki

> durusti’ [ confirming the janma kundali based on the house ] Pt.

> Roopchand ji assigned directions to various parts of the house

iside. In

> the makan kundali the North is denoted by house# 6, the natural

> corollary would be that the South should be 180 degrees apart, but

the

> in the Makan kundali the South is denoted by house # 8; house # 4

is

> denoted as North east, South west is denoted by house # 7, where

as they

> should be 180 degree apart; North west is denoted by house # 2 and

the

> South east by house # 12, that is more than 180 degrees apart.

>

>

>

> This assignment is entirely his own and what was the logic for it

is not

> known to any one. This assignment of the directions is for the

interior

> of the house only and that too for a specific purpose and can not

be

> carried forward and applied to the Kundali.

>

>

>

> We will commit a great mistake if we applied the directions

denoting the

> interior of the house set by the Lal Kitab to the Janma Kundali.

Janma

> Kundali is a universal document. It remains the same whether being

> analysed by a traditional vedic astrologer or a Lal Kitab

astrologer.

> Since the Janma Kundali is a universal document, the directions

assigned

> to the Janma Kundali are those which have been assigned by our

vedic

> astrology Rishis and have been universally accepted. They can

neither be

> changed nor appropriated in any way to accommodate any different

scheme

> of things.

>

>

>

> Had the Lal Kitab used a horoscope differently cast then it could

have

> applied its own rules of directions. So long as the Lal Kitab uses

the

> traditionally cast horoscope with the Lagna aligned to the East,

it has

> no option but to follow the traditionally accepted scheme of

directions.

>

>

>

> With Regards,

>

>

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

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