Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Thakur ji bila shak andheri kothari shani 12 ki hi shay hai. dekhiye baadam sabut dabane ya kayam karne ki baat kahi hai. badaam me kudrati taur par andheri kothari hoti hai. kulbirbance , " Iqbal Chand Thakur " <thakur.iqbalchand wrote: > > Bhai Kulbir, > Agar aathey maar maar ker lalkitab samajh aa jaye to bhai ye lalkitab na > hogi. Is janam mein samajh aa jaaye to ganimat samjhunga. > Abhi aap ye bataayen kee app sabhi andheri kothri se kya samajhtey hain. Ye > kis grah ke shai hai. > Aap puraney khiladi hain aap samajh gaye hain. Abb varun bhai kee daleel key > mutabak to bhai pichhli andheri kothri(shani) to khana no 6 hai. > Yaani ki shani 12 mein naa hokar 6 mein qayam baitha hai aur us kothri > ki deewar faad kar sooraj maharaj 6 > vein mein aa gaye . > abb Shani No 9 ko Dekho, Yahan bhee yehi baat kari hai. Balqi auur bhee > zabardast tariqey se kahi hai. Ek tao Shani pehley hee tang hai teejay ke > dushman grah se ab ooper sey teve vaaley ne shani kee qayamta ko bee hila > diya. Abb ye shani Jo brihaspati ke gharon mein kabhi bura phal nahin deta > tha paapi ban gaya. aur us aadmi ko jad se hila diya. Abb 9 vein ghar kaa > shani Peechey se kismat kaa maalaq ban ke aaya > tha aur teejay kaa grah us ki kismat mein chhed kar raha tha, ab teve wala > use pachhaan na saka aour us ki hond ko chhed diya aur teejay kee bhee fatti > poch dee. > Rahi baat teejay saal us ghar kee barbadi, bhai research karni padegi is > per, Aap log issi per lagay huay ho. Jab pata lag jaaye mujhey bhee bata > dena. Abhi to aur dimaag nahin chal raha mera. > Aapka > Iqbal Chand Thakur. > > > On 3/23/08, kulbirbance <kulbirbance wrote: > > > > janab; > > shani no 9 ko no 3 se dushman grah dekhta ho aur udhar MAKKAN > > ANDHERE ki pichli diwar tod kar roshani ho jave- to khulne ke pehle > > 7 saal pichli taraf ke makan me se naye nikle darwaze ya taki se > > teesra makan barbad aur tabah hoga, phir teesre saal naye darwaze > > nikalane wala ghar beabad hoga. page 160. > > 1. shani 3 mein shani 9 ke bare kyon likha yeh baat asulan shani 9 > > mein likhi jani chaiye thi. > > 2. iske peeche logic kya hai. > > kulbirbance > > <% 40>, > > " Iqbal Chand Thakur " > > <thakur.iqbalchand@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhayi Varun, > > > Aapka kehna bilkul darust hai. Chalo hum is ko doosray tareeqey se > > dekhen > > > gey > > > Sabse pehley dekhein > > > " sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve " - Yaani kee agar shani 12 ho to agar > > sooraj 6 ven > > > ho teve mein " to upaya kee zaroorat padegi > > > abb dekhen > > > na pichhali deewar phate > > > Yaani kee agar shani 12 ho to agar us teve waaley ke ghar mein > > koyi andheri > > > kothri ho to shani qayam mana jayega aur shani 12 kaa poora phal > > milega. > > > aur agar roshni ke liye uski deewar mein khidki yaa koyi aour > > tariqa apnaya > > > jaaye > > > to is upaya kee zaroorat padegi kyonki ab shani 12 ke asar ke liye > > yeh > > > zaroori ho zaayega kee usey 12vein khaaney kee disha mein badamon > > kaa > > > upaya karvaya jaayega. > > > > > > main jo samajhta hoon vo bataaney kee koshish kee hai. Baaqi aap > > aagay > > > charchaa karen > > > Aapka > > > Iqbal Chand Thakur > > > > > > On 3/22/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Adarneeya Thakur sahib, > > > > > > > > Quoting from the Book : > > > > > > > > " sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve, na pichhali deewar phate " > > > > > > > > " jab tak sooraj # 6 mein na ho, koi upaya zaroori nahi " > > > > > > > > Ab aap hi khud khana 6 ka ?.. > > > > > > > > " pichhali andheri kothari jo makan mein dakhil hote waqt daanye > > > > haath ki taraf ki syah pori hoti hai akhir par " [ quoted from the > > > > book] > > > > > > > > ??se kaise sambandh banta hai vichar kar dekhen. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > --- In <% 40> > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " Iqbal Chand Thakur " > > > > <thakur.iqbalchand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Varun > > > > > Holi kee Mubarqaq baad ho aap sabhi ko. > > > > > Aap kee koshish bahut acchhi > > > > > hai. Mere vichar se lalkitab ke upyon kaa logic samajhna bada > > > > mushkil > > > > > hai. Per dimaag chalta rahe in cheezon per to achha rehta hai. > > > > > Koyi aur logic bhee hona chaiye Jara sochna padega. > > > > > Bhayee Agar makaan kee baat karein to khana no 8 aur 6 mein do > > > > dishayoon kaa > > > > > faraq Dono ek dooje ke ulat hain. Yaani aap ke kahey mutabaq > > > > bayaan aur daayan. > > > > > hai. Kulbir bhayi ne makaan kundli batayee thee kaheen kisi > > group > > > > mein > > > > > wo sahi sahi samjha saktey hain. > > > > > > > > > > mere samajh ke mutabaq logic ban nahin raha.kyon ki khana no 6 > > > > shumali hissa > > > > > hota hai. aur sooraj mashraq se chadhta hai.abb shumal kee > > khidki > > > > se suuraj > > > > > kee dhoop ander nahin aa sakti. Haan Dakhan kee khidki se aa > > > > sakti. Vo bhee > > > > > garam tapaaney waali baad dupehar kee. > > > > > Mere khyaal mein andheri kothdii shaniqayam kee cheez hai, Abb > > > > Shani Khana > > > > > no 12 mein hai. Ab jab > > > > > bhee kayam shani ko suraj chedega to takrav hovega hee. > > > > > Baaqi aur mahanubhav bhee hai vo apni raye de is masley per. > > > > > Bhayi bura mat manaana aapki baat kaati hai. > > > > > Aapka > > > > > Iqbal Chand Thakur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Girish ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Every upaya , instruction or suggestion given in the Lal > > Kitab > > > > has an > > > > > > astrological logic behind it. It is for us the practitioners > > of > > > > the > > > > > > Lal Kitab to decipher that reason or logic. > > > > > > > > > > > > This suggestion is invariably given in the context of Saturn > > in > > > > the > > > > > > 12th house. If some one has his Saturn in the 12th house > > then he > > > > > > should not get a window or ventilator opened into the room > > which > > > > is on > > > > > > the right hand side and at the end of the house as one > > enters the > > > > > > house. Especially the window or the ventilator should not be > > > > such that > > > > > > the sun light enters the room directly. The same instruction > > is > > > > also > > > > > > given about the rear wall on the west 'pashchimi pichhali > > deewar' > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let us understand the Logic behind this suggestion. > > > > > > > > > > > > As one enters the house, the right hand rear end of the > > house is > > > > the > > > > > > khana # 6 and the left hand rear of the house is khana # 8. > > You > > > > will > > > > > > understand it better if you imagine that you are entering the > > > > Kundali > > > > > > from lagna [ the main gate of the house]. The Lagna is > > considered > > > > > > East, the 7th house is considered the West. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if a window or ventilator is opened such that the > > sunlight > > > > enters > > > > > > directly into the area will mean establishing the Sun in that > > > > area. > > > > > > Therefore if the window/ ventilator is in the kothari on the > > > > right it > > > > > > will mean that the Sun has been got established in the 6th > > > > house, if > > > > > > it is the kothari on the left then it would mean establishing > > > > the Sun > > > > > > in the 8th house and if it is the Western wall then it would > > > > mean the > > > > > > 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what will happen to the Saturn in the 12th ? How will the > > > > saturn > > > > > > be affected by this? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be under the aspect of the sun from the 6th . Will > > get > > > > > > associated with the Sun of the 8th ; and in conflict [ > > takrav ] > > > > from > > > > > > the 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in order to avoid this uncomfortable situation the > > > > > > suggestion has been made. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <% 40> > > <% > > 40> > > > > <% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > " girish_raheja " > > > > > > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab suggests that the last room at the end of the > > > > house > > > > > > > should be kept dark; there should be no ventilator for the > > > > light to > > > > > > > enter. > > > > > > > Sir is this just a convention or there is some logical > > reason > > > > behind > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Faithfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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