pichhali andheri kothari / querry / Kulbir bhai

March 23, 2008

Dear Kulbir bhai,

Let us first understand the difference between a Janma kundali and the makan kundali. The two are not the same thing.

Direction both as disha and taraf are fixed in the Janma kundali. They are the same as in the traditional Vedic astrology.

Disha in Janma Kundali :

East : 1st house

West : 7th house

North : 10th house

South : 4th house.

taraf in Janm Kundali

1 se 6 tak taraf jo pahali, hissa daanya kahlati hai

Baad ke ghar 7 se 12 , taraf baanya ho jati hai.

Therefore in the context of the issue under discussion the last kothari on the right hand will be the 6th house.

Now talking about the Makan kundali.

The Lal Kitab conceptualizes a makan kundali entirely differently from the traditional astrology;

Disha :

East : houses 1 & 5

NE ; house 4

North : house 6

NW : house 2

West : houses 10 & 11

SW : house 7

South : houses 3 & 8

SE : house 12

The center of the house is considered as House # 9

Taraf :

Will depend on the entrance of the house:

If the entrance of the house is in the south then: at the entrance will be houses 3 & 8 ;

houses 12, 1,5, & 4 on the right ;

house 6 in front ;

houses 2, 10, 11, & 7 on the left.

house 9 will be the center again.

And so onâ€¦

Therefore while talking about the Saturn in the 12th house in relation to the Sun when the book says : sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve the book is talking about the taraf in Janma Kundali because then only the last kothari on the right hand will make sense.

In the 1952 ed it has been explained very clearly soorya 6 te deewar jo phat ti aurat aurat marti ho

Have a nice day

Varun

, "kulbirbance" <kulbirbance wrote:>> Varun ji;> > > thakur ji ki baat sahi hai; baat kuch bani nahin.> aapne kaha hai You will understand it better if you imagine that you are> entering the Kundali from lagna [ the main gate of the house]. The Lagna> is considered East, the 7th house is considered the West.> > yahan par main sahmat nahin> > khanna no 5 east hai; khanna no 11 west hai , khanna no 8 south aur> khanna no 6 north PROPER.> > KHANNA NO. 1 NORTH EAST NA KI EAST PROPER.> > KHANNA NO 7 SOUTH WEST HAI NA KI WEST PROPER.> > ZARA DUBARA GAUR FARMAIEN. aur yeh bhi bataein ki aapne house no 1 ko> main door kaise maan liya.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbirbance> , "Iqbal Chand Thakur"> thakur.iqbalchand@ wrote:> >> > Bhai Varun> > Holi kee Mubarqaq baad ho aap sabhi ko.> > Aap kee koshish bahut acchhi> > hai. Mere vichar se lalkitab ke upyon kaa logic samajhna bada mushkil> > hai. Per dimaag chalta rahe in cheezon per to achha rehta hai.> > Koyi aur logic bhee hona chaiye Jara sochna padega.> > Bhayee Agar makaan kee baat karein to khana no 8 aur 6 mein do> dishayoon kaa> > faraq Dono ek dooje ke ulat hain. Yaani aap ke kahey mutabaq bayaan> aur daayan.> > hai. Kulbir bhayi ne makaan kundli batayee thee kaheen kisi group mein> > wo sahi sahi samjha saktey hain.> >> > mere samajh ke mutabaq logic ban nahin raha.kyon ki khana no 6 shumali> hissa> > hota hai. aur sooraj mashraq se chadhta hai.abb shumal kee khidki se> suuraj> > kee dhoop ander nahin aa sakti. Haan Dakhan kee khidki se aa sakti. Vo> bhee> > garam tapaaney waali baad dupehar kee.> > Mere khyaal mein andheri kothdii shaniqayam kee cheez hai, Abb Shani> Khana> > no 12 mein hai. Ab jab> > bhee kayam shani ko suraj chedega to takrav hovega hee.> > Baaqi aur mahanubhav bhee hai vo apni raye de is masley per.> > Bhayi bura mat manaana aapki baat kaati hai.> > Aapka> > Iqbal Chand Thakur> >> >> > On 3/21/08, varun_trvd varun_trvd@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Girish ji,> > >> > > Every upaya , instruction or suggestion given in the Lal Kitab has> an> > > astrological logic behind it. It is for us the practitioners of the> > > Lal Kitab to decipher that reason or logic.> > >> > > This suggestion is invariably given in the context of Saturn in the> > > 12th house. If some one has his Saturn in the 12th house then he> > > should not get a window or ventilator opened into the room which is> on> > > the right hand side and at the end of the house as one enters the> > > house. Especially the window or the ventilator should not be such> that> > > the sun light enters the room directly. The same instruction is also> > > given about the rear wall on the west 'pashchimi pichhali deewar'> > >> > > Now let us understand the Logic behind this suggestion.> > >> > > As one enters the house, the right hand rear end of the house is the> > > khana # 6 and the left hand rear of the house is khana # 8. You will> > > understand it better if you imagine that you are entering the> Kundali> > > from lagna [ the main gate of the house]. The Lagna is considered> > > East, the 7th house is considered the West.> > >> > > Now if a window or ventilator is opened such that the sunlight> enters> > > directly into the area will mean establishing the Sun in that area.> > > Therefore if the window/ ventilator is in the kothari on the right> it> > > will mean that the Sun has been got established in the 6th house, if> > > it is the kothari on the left then it would mean establishing the> Sun> > > in the 8th house and if it is the Western wall then it would mean> the> > > 7th house.> > >> > > Now what will happen to the Saturn in the 12th ? How will the saturn> > > be affected by this?> > >> > > It will be under the aspect of the sun from the 6th . Will get> > > associated with the Sun of the 8th ; and in conflict [ takrav ] from> > > the 7th.> > >> > > Therefore in order to avoid this uncomfortable situation the> > > suggestion has been made.> > >> > > With regards,> > >> > > Varun Trivedi> > >> > > --- In> <%40.co\> m>,> > > "girish_raheja"> > > girish_raheja@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Sirs,> > > >> > > > The Lal Kitab suggests that the last room at the end of the house> > > > should be kept dark; there should be no ventilator for the light> to> > > > enter.> > > > Sir is this just a convention or there is some logical reason> behind> > > > this.> > > >> > > > Faithfully,> > > >> > > > Girish Raheja> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>