Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Respected Varunji, Greatly appreciate your efforts to summarize the whole discussion. Cheers Bhupinder --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected members, > > We had a great discussion on Saturn in general and > on the concept > of `Nesh se ganesh' in particular. The discussion > originally started > with Saturn in the 8th house, later it became all > pervasive. Now > that the discussion has reached its saturation point > I am trying to > summarize it before the discussion on the topic is > closed. > > [ 1 ] Contrary to general perception and fear of the > Saturn, it is > established beyond doubt that the Saturn has the > ability and the > potential to become Ganesh. Therefore most of the > apprehensions > about the Saturn are misplaced. The Saturn can be a > very powerful > benefic provided the Jatak leads a moral life. A > planet associated > with a poisonous sting can turn into `Amrit' in > circumstances > conducive to it. > > [ 2 ] Since Ketu [ uchcha ] alone can be associated > with Ganesh, > therefore in its journey from poisonous sting [ Nesh > ] to life > giving Ganesh the Saturn has to have a metamorphosis > through Venus > into an exalted Ketu ultimately transforming itself > into Ganesh. > > [ 3 ] Coming to the Saturn in 8th house, keeping a > square piece of > silver will act both as an upaya and also as a ` > kasauti' to find > the nature of Saturn. It is not correct to say that > the square piece > of silver will act as a `kasauti' alone. [ Chandra > Prakash you were > wrong there] If the Saturn is malefic it will be > indicated through > either its own karaks, like an uncle, business of > construction, > iron & steel etc; or through the karaks of the > scapegoats it has. > One of the reasons why a square piece of silver is > advised for > Saturn in the 8th might be that the Mars is not only > the owner of > the house, it is also a pakka house of the Mars. > > [ 4 ] Kalsi ji is right in making a reference to > the Sun in the > context of Saturn. Saturn is said to spare the Sun [ > its arch enemy] > when the Sun represents the only male progeny. In > the presence of > the only son and a mother-to-be [a lady in her > family way] it is a > folk belief that the snake goes blind. Even > otherwise the Saturn > doesn't harass a male planet and the Sun is a male > planet. > > [ 5 ] The highlight of the debate has been a > fantastic write up by > Pt. Lalkitabee ji [ message # 1894 ]. His article > is some thing > which will be cherished for a long time to come. > Apart from the > intensity of dealing with the concept of Saturn, > Venus, Rahu and > Ketu and their interdependent relationship, the > write up will be > long remembered for its Lal Kitab style of language. > One gets the > same pleasant feeling reading it as one would get > reading the Lal > Kitab. > > I take this opportunity to thank Pt. Lalkitabee ji, > Kalsi ji, > Pt.Yograj ji , Kulbir ji and Chandra Prakash to have > devoted their > time and energy on the topic. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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