Saturn in the 8th

March 7, 2008

Dear Varun-Ji,

NAMASKARJI,

I am reading this subject nesh se ganesh, meaning that always saturn is not bad or give you bad efect

but it could become like ganesh if it is benific right??

So saturn in 8th colunm is 8th a mars colunm or only for aries lagna since 8th is of mars & if in that lagna

if saturn is in 8th is that bad or good?? do you consider saturn over thier a good or bad one??

I know saturn every one think gives bad effect but it is also suprem judge too & he really straights people up & really during his ruling time as sade sate he will show people karmas phal.

but do you think seating in 8th for this sani maharaj is good place to be?? or it doesnt matter,so can he be

NESH SE GANESH ??? please explain me ok

thanks

rashmikant

varun_trvd <varun_trvd Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 5:07:17 AMLK discussion group Nesh se Ganesh : winding up the debate

Respected members,We had a great discussion on Saturn in general and on the concept of `Nesh se ganesh' in particular. The discussion originally started with Saturn in the 8th house, later it became all pervasive. Now that the discussion has reached its saturation point I am trying to summarize it before the discussion on the topic is closed.[ 1 ] Contrary to general perception and fear of the Saturn, it is established beyond doubt that the Saturn has the ability and the potential to become Ganesh. Therefore most of the apprehensions about the Saturn are misplaced. The Saturn can be a very powerful benefic provided the Jatak leads a moral life. A planet associated with a poisonous sting can turn into `Amrit' in circumstances conducive to it.[ 2 ] Since Ketu [ uchcha ] alone can be associated with Ganesh, therefore in its journey from poisonous sting [ Nesh ] to life giving Ganesh

the Saturn has to have a metamorphosis through Venus into an exalted Ketu ultimately transforming itself into Ganesh.[ 3 ] Coming to the Saturn in 8th house, keeping a square piece of silver will act both as an upaya and also as a ` kasauti' to find the nature of Saturn. It is not correct to say that the square piece of silver will act as a `kasauti' alone. [ Chandra Prakash you were wrong there] If the Saturn is malefic it will be indicated through either its own karaks, like an uncle, business of construction, iron & steel etc; or through the karaks of the scapegoats it has.One of the reasons why a square piece of silver is advised for Saturn in the 8th might be that the Mars is not only the owner of the house, it is also a pakka house of the Mars.[ 4 ] Kalsi ji is right in making a reference to the Sun in the context of Saturn. Saturn is said to spare the Sun [ its arch enemy] when

the Sun represents the only male progeny. In the presence of the only son and a mother-to-be [a lady in her family way] it is a folk belief that the snake goes blind. Even otherwise the Saturn doesn't harass a male planet and the Sun is a male planet.[ 5 ] The highlight of the debate has been a fantastic write up by Pt. Lalkitabee ji [ message # 1894 ]. His article is some thing which will be cherished for a long time to come. Apart from the intensity of dealing with the concept of Saturn, Venus, Rahu and Ketu and their interdependent relationship, the write up will be long remembered for its Lal Kitab style of language. One gets the same pleasant feeling reading it as one would get reading the Lal Kitab.I take this opportunity to thank Pt. Lalkitabee ji, Kalsi ji, Pt.Yograj ji , Kulbir ji and Chandra Prakash to have devoted their time and energy on the topic.With

regards,Varun Trivedi

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