Rahu in 5H, curative Measures / angel goel ji

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Respected Angel ji,

 

[ 1 ] Yes. A strong moon can not save the significations of the 5th

house being destroyed by the Rahu.

[ 2 ] It could be of any size depending on the buying capacity.

[ 3 ] If possible it should be kept in the East.

[ 4 ] Normally, moon should be strong so that it doesn't get

diminished while cooling the Rahu.

[ 5 ] Rahu in the 5th house could be one of the reasons for either no

progeny or delayed progeny. With the silver elephant kept at home the

Rahu part can be taken care of. But there could be other planetary

combinations in the horoscope which might delay or deny the progeny.

They too have to be taken care of.

[ 6 ] What a child would be will get reflected in the child's

horoscope.

[ 7 ] Rahu is a karak of elephant. A silver toy elephant means that

we are using moon [ silver ] to calm and cool Rahu [ elephant ]

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, angel <angelgoel

wrote:

>

> Hi Varun ji

>

> Thanks for informative mail.Few doubts :

> 1> Incase moon is strong in chart and rahu is in 5th

> house then also harmful effect in progeny is observed

> ?

>

> 2> how big elephant of silver is to be made ?

>

> 3> where is that elephant kept in the house ?

>

> 4> do we need to see any other combination in spouse's

> chart before bringing such elephant in home.

>

> 5> " .....Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga "

> does that mean that late progeny and no male progeny

> but not childlessness-progeny is late and with

> difficult but it will be there.

>

> what does it say about the child whose parents have

> rahu in 5th ?

>

> why is elephant required for rahu ? what is

> significance of elephant ?

>

> thanks

> angel

>

> --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

>

> > Respected Pradeep ji,

> >

> > Yes it is true that Rahu in the 5th house adversely

> > affects the

> > progeny. It causes what is known in Vedic Jyotish a

> > Pitri Dosh. But I

> > have never come across an upaya of elephant with a

> > golden chain.

> >

> > With Jupiter and Rahu together, it is not the Rahu

> > which stays

> > silent, it is the Jupiter which becomes silent. The

> > book says :

> >

> > " guru rahu jab ho do ikaththe, sher soya guru hota

> > ho " ...it further

> > says " Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga "

> >

> > [ a ] Mars can cotrol Rahu, but it can not cool

> > Rahu. Therefore the

> > help of the Moon is required to cool it. Hence the

> > silver toy

> > elephant.Secondly the Mars + Rahu combination in the

> > 5th house is

> > going to be all the more dangerous for progeny, it

> > can not be advised.

> >

> > [ b ] Since the golden chain is not going to be of

> > any effect, hence

> > the question of which leg doesn't arise.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , pradeep

> > mishra

> > <pm_pmishra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > >

> > > Rahu in 5H creates obstructions in the birth of a

> > male child.

> > > This may not necessarily true in the case of a

> > girl child.

> > >

> > > Some scholar suggests, an elephant made of solid

> > Silver with a

> > golden chain in the front leg will be appropriate

> > curative measure.

> > > The plea is that 5H house is the 2nd house to

> > cardinal house of

> > Moon and Rahu in the company of Jur becomes silent.

> > >

> > > Q) The Rahu in the company of Mars also becomes

> > silent, so by

> > establishing

> > > Mars in the 5H (sign of its freind Sun and

> > Pucca Ghar of Jur

> > friend again) the

> > > same results can be achieved.

> > >

> > > Q) In which leg the golden chain should be put

> > left or right.

> > >

> > > Please share your insight.

> > >

> > >

> > > With Regards,

> > > Pradeep Mishra

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

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Respected Varun Ji

 

Thanks for clarifications that i asked for.

one last doubt :- it must be standing elephant with

trunk down (or up ?) -- what posture of standing

elephant is required to be kept at home?

 

thanks

angel

 

 

--- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

 

> Respected Angel ji,

>

> [ 1 ] Yes. A strong moon can not save the

> significations of the 5th

> house being destroyed by the Rahu.

> [ 2 ] It could be of any size depending on the

> buying capacity.

> [ 3 ] If possible it should be kept in the East.

> [ 4 ] Normally, moon should be strong so that it

> doesn't get

> diminished while cooling the Rahu.

> [ 5 ] Rahu in the 5th house could be one of the

> reasons for either no

> progeny or delayed progeny. With the silver elephant

> kept at home the

> Rahu part can be taken care of. But there could be

> other planetary

> combinations in the horoscope which might delay or

> deny the progeny.

> They too have to be taken care of.

> [ 6 ] What a child would be will get reflected in

> the child's

> horoscope.

> [ 7 ] Rahu is a karak of elephant. A silver toy

> elephant means that

> we are using moon [ silver ] to calm and cool Rahu [

> elephant ]

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

, angel

> <angelgoel

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Varun ji

> >

> > Thanks for informative mail.Few doubts :

> > 1> Incase moon is strong in chart and rahu is in

> 5th

> > house then also harmful effect in progeny is

> observed

> > ?

> >

> > 2> how big elephant of silver is to be made ?

> >

> > 3> where is that elephant kept in the house ?

> >

> > 4> do we need to see any other combination in

> spouse's

> > chart before bringing such elephant in home.

> >

> > 5> " .....Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga "

> > does that mean that late progeny and no male

> progeny

> > but not childlessness-progeny is late and with

> > difficult but it will be there.

> >

> > what does it say about the child whose parents

> have

> > rahu in 5th ?

> >

> > why is elephant required for rahu ? what is

> > significance of elephant ?

> >

> > thanks

> > angel

> >

> > --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

> >

> > > Respected Pradeep ji,

> > >

> > > Yes it is true that Rahu in the 5th house

> adversely

> > > affects the

> > > progeny. It causes what is known in Vedic

> Jyotish a

> > > Pitri Dosh. But I

> > > have never come across an upaya of elephant with

> a

> > > golden chain.

> > >

> > > With Jupiter and Rahu together, it is not the

> Rahu

> > > which stays

> > > silent, it is the Jupiter which becomes silent.

> The

> > > book says :

> > >

> > > " guru rahu jab ho do ikaththe, sher soya guru

> hota

> > > ho " ...it further

> > > says " Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga "

> > >

> > > [ a ] Mars can cotrol Rahu, but it can not cool

> > > Rahu. Therefore the

> > > help of the Moon is required to cool it. Hence

> the

> > > silver toy

> > > elephant.Secondly the Mars + Rahu combination in

> the

> > > 5th house is

> > > going to be all the more dangerous for progeny,

> it

> > > can not be advised.

> > >

> > > [ b ] Since the golden chain is not going to be

> of

> > > any effect, hence

> > > the question of which leg doesn't arise.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> pradeep

> > > mishra

> > > <pm_pmishra@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in 5H creates obstructions in the birth

> of a

> > > male child.

> > > > This may not necessarily true in the case of a

> > > girl child.

> > > >

> > > > Some scholar suggests, an elephant made of

> solid

> > > Silver with a

> > > golden chain in the front leg will be

> appropriate

> > > curative measure.

> > > > The plea is that 5H house is the 2nd house to

> > > cardinal house of

> > > Moon and Rahu in the company of Jur becomes

> silent.

> > > >

> > > > Q) The Rahu in the company of Mars also

> becomes

> > > silent, so by

> > > establishing

> > > > Mars in the 5H (sign of its freind Sun

> and

> > > Pucca Ghar of Jur

> > > friend again) the

> > > > same results can be achieved.

> > > >

> > > > Q) In which leg the golden chain should be put

> > > left or right.

> > > >

> > > > Please share your insight.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > With Regards,

> > > > Pradeep Mishra

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Never miss a thing. Make your

> homepage.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Respected Goel ji,

 

The upaya aims at calming down an angry and billigerent elephant [

Rahu ].

 

An elephant when angry and in the charging mode raises its trunk high

up with ears fanning out. It is difficult to find such a silver toy

elephant.

 

The toy elephant available in the market with the trunk up is the one

which denotes obedient elephant in the saluting mode. Since we are

not cooling down an obedient elephant, therefore this toy elephant

will be of no use for the upaya.

 

The only alternative left is the one with the trunk down. I think

this one can be used in the absence of the angry charging toy

elephant.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, angel <angelgoel

wrote:

>

> Respected Varun Ji

>

> Thanks for clarifications that i asked for.

> one last doubt :- it must be standing elephant with

> trunk down (or up ?) -- what posture of standing

> elephant is required to be kept at home?

>

> thanks

> angel

>

>

> --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

>

> > Respected Angel ji,

> >

> > [ 1 ] Yes. A strong moon can not save the

> > significations of the 5th

> > house being destroyed by the Rahu.

> > [ 2 ] It could be of any size depending on the

> > buying capacity.

> > [ 3 ] If possible it should be kept in the East.

> > [ 4 ] Normally, moon should be strong so that it

> > doesn't get

> > diminished while cooling the Rahu.

> > [ 5 ] Rahu in the 5th house could be one of the

> > reasons for either no

> > progeny or delayed progeny. With the silver elephant

> > kept at home the

> > Rahu part can be taken care of. But there could be

> > other planetary

> > combinations in the horoscope which might delay or

> > deny the progeny.

> > They too have to be taken care of.

> > [ 6 ] What a child would be will get reflected in

> > the child's

> > horoscope.

> > [ 7 ] Rahu is a karak of elephant. A silver toy

> > elephant means that

> > we are using moon [ silver ] to calm and cool Rahu [

> > elephant ]

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , angel

> > <angelgoel@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Varun ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for informative mail.Few doubts :

> > > 1> Incase moon is strong in chart and rahu is in

> > 5th

> > > house then also harmful effect in progeny is

> > observed

> > > ?

> > >

> > > 2> how big elephant of silver is to be made ?

> > >

> > > 3> where is that elephant kept in the house ?

> > >

> > > 4> do we need to see any other combination in

> > spouse's

> > > chart before bringing such elephant in home.

> > >

> > > 5> " .....Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga "

> > > does that mean that late progeny and no male

> > progeny

> > > but not childlessness-progeny is late and with

> > > difficult but it will be there.

> > >

> > > what does it say about the child whose parents

> > have

> > > rahu in 5th ?

> > >

> > > why is elephant required for rahu ? what is

> > > significance of elephant ?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > angel

> > >

> > > --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Respected Pradeep ji,

> > > >

> > > > Yes it is true that Rahu in the 5th house

> > adversely

> > > > affects the

> > > > progeny. It causes what is known in Vedic

> > Jyotish a

> > > > Pitri Dosh. But I

> > > > have never come across an upaya of elephant with

> > a

> > > > golden chain.

> > > >

> > > > With Jupiter and Rahu together, it is not the

> > Rahu

> > > > which stays

> > > > silent, it is the Jupiter which becomes silent.

> > The

> > > > book says :

> > > >

> > > > " guru rahu jab ho do ikaththe, sher soya guru

> > hota

> > > > ho " ...it further

> > > > says " Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga "

> > > >

> > > > [ a ] Mars can cotrol Rahu, but it can not cool

> > > > Rahu. Therefore the

> > > > help of the Moon is required to cool it. Hence

> > the

> > > > silver toy

> > > > elephant.Secondly the Mars + Rahu combination in

> > the

> > > > 5th house is

> > > > going to be all the more dangerous for progeny,

> > it

> > > > can not be advised.

> > > >

> > > > [ b ] Since the golden chain is not going to be

> > of

> > > > any effect, hence

> > > > the question of which leg doesn't arise.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > pradeep

> > > > mishra

> > > > <pm_pmishra@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 5H creates obstructions in the birth

> > of a

> > > > male child.

> > > > > This may not necessarily true in the case of a

> > > > girl child.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some scholar suggests, an elephant made of

> > solid

> > > > Silver with a

> > > > golden chain in the front leg will be

> > appropriate

> > > > curative measure.

> > > > > The plea is that 5H house is the 2nd house to

> > > > cardinal house of

> > > > Moon and Rahu in the company of Jur becomes

> > silent.

> > > > >

> > > > > Q) The Rahu in the company of Mars also

> > becomes

> > > > silent, so by

> > > > establishing

> > > > > Mars in the 5H (sign of its freind Sun

> > and

> > > > Pucca Ghar of Jur

> > > > friend again) the

> > > > > same results can be achieved.

> > > > >

> > > > > Q) In which leg the golden chain should be put

> > > > left or right.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please share your insight.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > With Regards,

> > > > > Pradeep Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your

> > homepage.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to

> > http://in.promos./groups

> > >

> >

> >

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It is difficult to find such a silver toy > elephant. > > The toy elephant available in the market with the trunk up is the one > which denotes obedient elephant in the saluting mode. Since we are > not cooling down an obedient elephant, therefore this toy elephant > will be of no use for the upaya.> > The only alternative left is the one with the trunk down. I think > this one can be used in the absence of the angry charging toy > elephant.> > Regards,> > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > , angel angelgoel@ > wrote:> >> > Respected Varun Ji> > > > Thanks for clarifications that i asked for.> > one last doubt :- it must be standing elephant with> > trunk down (or up ?) -- what posture of standing> > elephant is required to be kept at home?> > > > thanks> > angel> > > > > > --- varun_trvd varun_trvd@ wrote:> > > > > Respected Angel ji,> > > > > > [ 1 ] Yes. A strong moon can not save the> > > significations of the 5th > > > house being destroyed by the Rahu.> > > [ 2 ] It could be of any size depending on the> > > buying capacity.> > > [ 3 ] If possible it should be kept in the East.> > > [ 4 ] Normally, moon should be strong so that it> > > doesn't get > > > diminished while cooling the Rahu.> > > [ 5 ] Rahu in the 5th house could be one of the> > > reasons for either no > > > progeny or delayed progeny. With the silver elephant> > > kept at home the > > > Rahu part can be taken care of. But there could be> > > other planetary > > > combinations in the horoscope which might delay or> > > deny the progeny. > > > They too have to be taken care of.> > > [ 6 ] What a child would be will get reflected in> > > the child's > > > horoscope.> > > [ 7 ] Rahu is a karak of elephant. A silver toy> > > elephant means that > > > we are using moon [ silver ] to calm and cool Rahu [> > > elephant ]> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , angel> > > <angelgoel@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Varun ji> > > > > > > > Thanks for informative mail.Few doubts :> > > > 1> Incase moon is strong in chart and rahu is in> > > 5th> > > > house then also harmful effect in progeny is> > > observed> > > > ?> > > > > > > > 2> how big elephant of silver is to be made ?> > > > > > > > 3> where is that elephant kept in the house ?> > > > > > > > 4> do we need to see any other combination in> > > spouse's> > > > chart before bringing such elephant in home.> > > > > > > > 5> ".....Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga"> > > > does that mean that late progeny and no male> > > progeny> > > > but not childlessness-progeny is late and with> > > > difficult but it will be there.> > > > > > > > what does it say about the child whose parents> > > have> > > > rahu in 5th ?> > > > > > > > why is elephant required for rahu ? what is> > > > significance of elephant ?> > > > > > > > thanks> > > > angel> > > > > > > > --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Respected Pradeep ji,> > > > > > > > > > Yes it is true that Rahu in the 5th house> > > adversely> > > > > affects the > > > > > progeny. It causes what is known in Vedic> > > Jyotish a> > > > > Pitri Dosh. But I > > > > > have never come across an upaya of elephant with> > > a> > > > > golden chain.> > > > > > > > > > With Jupiter and Rahu together, it is not the> > > Rahu> > > > > which stays > > > > > silent, it is the Jupiter which becomes silent.> > > The> > > > > book says :> > > > > > > > > > " guru rahu jab ho do ikaththe, sher soya guru> > > hota> > > > > ho"...it further > > > > > says "Brihaspat chup hoga magar gum na hoga"> > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Mars can cotrol Rahu, but it can not cool> > > > > Rahu. Therefore the > > > > > help of the Moon is required to cool it. Hence> > > the> > > > > silver toy > > > > > elephant.Secondly the Mars + Rahu combination in> > > the> > > > > 5th house is > > > > > going to be all the more dangerous for progeny,> > > it> > > > > can not be advised.> > > > > > > > > > [ b ] Since the golden chain is not going to be> > > of> > > > > any effect, hence > > > > > the question of which leg doesn't arise.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > pradeep> > > > > mishra > > > > > <pm_pmishra@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5H creates obstructions in the birth> > > of a> > > > > male child.> > > > > > This may not necessarily true in the case of a> > > > > girl child.> > > > > > > > > > > > Some scholar suggests, an elephant made of> > > solid> > > > > Silver with a > > > > > golden chain in the front leg will be> > > appropriate> > > > > curative measure.> > > > > > The plea is that 5H house is the 2nd house to> > > > > cardinal house of > > > > > Moon and Rahu in the company of Jur becomes> > > silent.> > > > > > > > > > > > Q) The Rahu in the company of Mars also> > > becomes> > > > > silent, so by > > > > > establishing > > > > > > Mars in the 5H (sign of its freind Sun> > > and> > > > > Pucca Ghar of Jur > > > > > friend again) the> > > > > > same results can be achieved.> > > > > > > > > > > > Q) In which leg the golden chain should be put> > > > > left or right.> > > > > > > > > > > > Please share your insight.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards,> > > > > > Pradeep Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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