Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Respected Mishra ji, If that being so, you will have to see which of the two planets, saturn or mercury, is being affected. If the Mars is afflicting mercury than the significations of Saturn would suffer because mars+mercury results in malefic Saturn [ rahu swabhav]. In that case the Rahu swabhav component will have to be distanced through immersing in a river. Regards, Varun Trivedi , pradeep mishra <pm_pmishra wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji, > > Continuing the thread, one final favor from you side. > > Mars is in #1, Sar and Mer in #7 > a) Mercury afflicted by Mars aspects, since Mars keeps enemity with Mercury. > b) Mer is in its pucca ghar can the flute remedy is recommended in this case. > Lk says Sar, Mer together " Zayadad Mankula & Mangoe Tree. > > Thanks in advance for your time & energy. > > With Regards, > Pradeep Mishra. > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Respected Deep Shankar ji, > > In that case the upaya has to be different. You may have to seek > advice from some other group for that. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Deep Shankar Chakraborty > <deepschakraborty@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Please tell me what happens if Saturn is in the 7th House (in > Leo) while Moon and Mars is in the 6th House in Cancer. Should I > follow the procedure as suggested or is there a different approach to > it. > > > > My details are 18.04.1978, Calcutta,02:12 AM > > > > Regards > > Deep > > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > Respected Raheja ji, > > > > A flute is of bamboo [ mercury], it is a musical instrument [ > > mercury] it is hollow for air to pass through [ mercury], therefore > > nothing can be as pure a mercury as a flute. > > The earthen pot has the shape of mercury but the material it is > made > > of is that of Venus [ mitti ]. > > > > That could be the reason why Pandit ji suggested a flute. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > Continueing the thread, I would like to ask why a flute was > advised > > > for the upaya and not a mitti ki kuji ? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Pradeep ji, > > > > > > > > Mars in house # 1 and the saturn in house #7 : Saturn would be > > > > considered as awake; but the saturn would not be considered > > > > necessarily as afflicted because the Mars does not consider > > Saturn > > > as > > > > its enemy. Therefore the aspect of Mars should not be malefic. > > > > > > > > In case the results of the Saturn are not as good as that of an > > > > exalted planet, then the upaya # 2 can be done assuming that > the > > > > maleficity of the Saturn could be due to other reasons. > > > > > > > > Yes the upaya can be done in both the cases, Janma kundali and > > > annual > > > > jundali. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pradeep mishra > > > > <pm_pmishra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Subject:RE: Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: Upaya for Saturn > in > > > the > > > > 7th house / HS Gill > > > > > Date:Sat, 26 Jan 2008 7:15:41 > > > > > pm_pmishra@ <pm_pmishra@> > > > > > To:varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun ji, > > > > > If Mars is 1 H and Sar in 7H, hence sar is awake and > afflicted. > > > > > A. Can one do the number 2 upaya. > > > > > B. This upaya can be done for horoscope or Annual chart or > > both. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > Pradeep Mishra > > > > > > > > > > varun_trvd wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gill ji, > > > > > > These two upaya are for two different situations, and serve > > > > different > > > > > > purposes; in other words the aim of these two upaya is > > > different. > > > > > > Saturn placed in the 7th house is considered as exalted. > > Being > > > > exalted > > > > > > it should be giving good results. If it doesn’t give good > > > > results than > > > > > > there could be two reasons for it. It is either dormant [ > > soya > > > > hua ] or > > > > > > is afflicted by some planet. > > > > > > It will be dormant if there is no planet in the 1st house. > On > > > the > > > > > > other hand a planet from the 1st house can afflict it. > > > Therefore, > > > > in > > > > > > the first case the upaya will have to be to awaken the > > Saturn, > > > > where as > > > > > > in the second case the malefic part of the Saturn, caused by > > > > > > affliction, will have to be destroyed. > > > > > > Mars awakens the 1st house; therefore keeping a little > honey > > at > > > > home > > > > > > will awaken the Saturn in the 7th house. In case the Saturn > is > > > > > > afflicted then burying a flute [mercury] filled with little > > > khand > > > > [ > > > > > > country sugar ] representing Mars will be the upaya. Mars + > > > > mercury > > > > > > form the Saturn malefic or Rahu swabhav. Thus by burying a > > > flute > > > > filled > > > > > > with khand will result in destroying the malefic component > of > > > the > > > > > > Saturn. > > > > > > I hope to hear from other experts if they have any other > > > > explanation > > > > > > for these two upaya. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > @. com , " gill_hs2005 " > > > > > > <gill_hs2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sirs, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> For Saturn placed in the 7th house the Lal Kitab suggests > two > > > > > > different > > > > > >> upaya. One is to keep in the house a little honey if the > > first > > > > house > > > > > > is > > > > > >> unoccupied and the other is to bury a black flute filled > > with > > > > khand [ > > > > > >> sugar] if the 1st house is occupied. > > > > > >> Now why these two, entirely different, upaya for the same > > > > planet in > > > > > >> the same house? > > > > > >> What could be the logic behind it all? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sincerely, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> HS Gill > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > > > > > http://www./r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > > > > > http://www./r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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