Mangal/shani diamond coral

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Respected astrologers, Based on the discussion made on earlier messages regarding gems I have a doubt that is diamond and coral prohibited for mars saturn conjunction in general irrespective of the house its placed in or this prohibition is subject to only specific houses. Yours sincerely Sanya varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Kulbir bhai,I think Lalkitabee ji would be able to answer this well because he is well versed in the matters of gems.With

regards,Varun Trivedi-- In , "kulbirbains" <kulbirbains wrote:>> continuation of my earlier message- 1.under the subheading mangal > shani it is written neelam rahu utam phal dega, heera jo mangal ka > dushman bimari karza paida karega, suraj sab kuch barbad karega .> 2.under kundali 28-01-1910 1942> neele rang (rahu) wali anguthi jab li kyon koi bacha.> kulbir> , "kulbirbains" > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> >> > Dear members,> > > > > > The general perception also shared by scholars like bhatia ji etc. > is> > that use of gem stones ESPECIALLY IN RINGS is (almost)not in> >

accordance with lalkitab upayas. after reading shri miglani's > querry> > in lalkitab group i searched the books and found that.> > > > 1. 1952 edition page 955 line 4-5 says dhahine hath ki ANGUTHI mein> > neelam rahu ki zahira aur poshida sharaton se bachaye rakhegha.> > > > 2. lahsuniya / hauldari is recommended for brahspat rahu in khanna > no.2> > > > 3. dhoodh ranga moti for moon, diamond or shell for budh, dull red> > coral/moonga for mars, do ranga pathar cat's eye for ketu has been> > mentioned.> > > > lalkitab discusses general principles and some empty blanks are> > required to be filled in by the readers on the understanding of > that> > principles.> > if neelam is specifically mentioned in lalkitab to be worn in a > ring> > in a finger then why can't this principle be

applied to other gems?> > > > The very basis for shunning the use of gems is that lalkitab> > recommends only less expensive upayas. but this is never written > in lalkitab.> > Pandit ji must be knowing the price of diamond and neelam when he > wrote such in lalkitab.> > > > about quality and price the principle of cavet emptor or buyer > beware is applicable every where be it a ganth of haldi or an > expensive pukhraj.> > > > The institution of certifying and registering gems is there in > india.> > > > Can we stll say with authority that use of gems as remedial items > is> > against the principles of lalkitab?> > > > kulbir bains> >>

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Sanya ji,

its diamond and blue sapphire (not coral). yes on the face of it it

appears that this prohibitionh is for mangal shani combination

irrespective of the placement. but i think this gains more

significance if the combination is in 1st house= pakka ghar of

mangal shani deblitated, 3rd & 6th house (lord budh), 8th house

pakka ghar of both mangal & shani,10 th house owner shani & mangal

exalted,.

12 house could be exempt in case of neelam because mangal here

controls malefic tendency of rahu.

pukhraj is reccomended for this combination for benefic results of

both rahu and ketu

kulbir---

In , sanya mehra

<sanyamehra_80 wrote:

>

> Respected astrologers,

> Based on the discussion made on earlier messages regarding gems

I have a doubt that is diamond and coral prohibited for mars saturn

conjunction in general irrespective of the house its placed in or

this prohibition is subject to only specific houses.

> Yours sincerely

> Sanya

>

> varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

> Dear Kulbir bhai,

>

> I think Lalkitabee ji would be able to answer this well because he

is

> well versed in the matters of gems.

>

> With regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

> -- In , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > continuation of my earlier message- 1.under the subheading

mangal

> > shani it is written neelam rahu utam phal dega, heera jo mangal

ka

> > dushman bimari karza paida karega, suraj sab kuch barbad karega .

> > 2.under kundali 28-01-1910 1942

> > neele rang (rahu) wali anguthi jab li kyon koi bacha.

> > kulbir

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > >

> > > The general perception also shared by scholars like bhatia ji

> etc.

> > is

> > > that use of gem stones ESPECIALLY IN RINGS is (almost)not in

> > > accordance with lalkitab upayas. after reading shri miglani's

> > querry

> > > in lalkitab group i searched the books and found that.

> > >

> > > 1. 1952 edition page 955 line 4-5 says dhahine hath ki ANGUTHI

> mein

> > > neelam rahu ki zahira aur poshida sharaton se bachaye rakhegha.

> > >

> > > 2. lahsuniya / hauldari is recommended for brahspat rahu in

> khanna

> > no.2

> > >

> > > 3. dhoodh ranga moti for moon, diamond or shell for budh, dull

red

> > > coral/moonga for mars, do ranga pathar cat's eye for ketu has

been

> > > mentioned.

> > >

> > > lalkitab discusses general principles and some empty blanks are

> > > required to be filled in by the readers on the understanding

of

> > that

> > > principles.

> > > if neelam is specifically mentioned in lalkitab to be worn in

a

> > ring

> > > in a finger then why can't this principle be applied to other

> gems?

> > >

> > > The very basis for shunning the use of gems is that lalkitab

> > > recommends only less expensive upayas. but this is never

written

> > in lalkitab.

> > > Pandit ji must be knowing the price of diamond and neelam when

he

> > wrote such in lalkitab.

> > >

> > > about quality and price the principle of cavet emptor or buyer

> > beware is applicable every where be it a ganth of haldi or an

> > expensive pukhraj.

> > >

> > > The institution of certifying and registering gems is there in

> > india.

> > >

> > > Can we stll say with authority that use of gems as remedial

items

> > is

> > > against the principles of lalkitab?

> > >

> > > kulbir bains

> > >

> >

 

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